Wednesday, January 13, 2010

The Quietest City Council Meeting

It was the most tranquil kick off to a Sierra Madre political season in quite some time. There certainly was a hush in the air, with perhaps only the slightest little bit of apprehension to leaven the proceedings. But you really had to concentrate to sense it.

And maybe it's because of the absence of available money in the marketplace this year. Certainly no local dreamers with retirement accounts to burn are going to have any illusions about getting rich quick in downtown real estate development this go around. Nor are any banks likely to start pushing the kinds of sub-prime loans that made the DSP look like a good idea to a few misguided souls several years back. Things like the housing market collapse, mass foreclosures, plus the flight of so many employers and skilled workers from California, have put a gaping hole in that hot air balloon. So that traditional cause of discord just isn't here right now.

But then again, isn't this one of the conundrums of life here on the planet floor? When bad people control the issues, they get mean. But when good people are the ones controlling the message? They want everybody to be as nice as they are. Hopefully the good side will prevail.

So has Sierra Madre entered into a new era of political peace? Have the bad old days come to an end, and taken with them the sorts of wacky things we've seen in so many recent elections? I guess we'll find out. I know that here at The Tattler we are mellow with this laid back vibe, but we'll still sleep with one eye open. I lost too many mailboxes during the Measure V election to do otherwise.

Kurt Zimmerman made the big secret public. One of the most effective Councilmen this town has ever known is packing it in and will be turning his considerable talents elsewhere. Kind of reminded me a bit of the old cowboy movie chestnut about the quiet stranger who shows up in town one day, sorts out all the bad guys that had been plaguing the place, and then, the job done and the honest townspeople saved, rides off alone into the sunset. The movie ends with the good people of Whateverville wondering who it really was that saved them, and how could they ever repay such a debt. All the while knowing they never really can, or will.

De Alcorn spoke at the podium and made what I thought was a good point. How does Sierra Madre reconcile its selfless generosity towards our Police Department with the lawsuits that followed? Has there ever been a city that voted itself a stiff tax hike in order to reward some of its employees with a needed raise, only to have the ungrateful beneficiaries turn around and sue the place over and over again? And even if there is a precedent for this, does that mean we have to like it?

Don Watts spoke eloquently about the need for respect and decency in the upcoming election, and certainly nobody could be more aware of the consequences of dirty politics than he. The cruel and well-funded attacks on people like Don during the run up to the Measure V vote being an obvious example of just how bad things can get here.

There was one droll incident that needs to be noted. Sierra Madre's highly thorough building inspector came to the podium to discuss solar power permits and issues related to the logistics of installing and properly situating solar panels on rooftops. It was a detailed review and required the mastery of some pretty technical information. When he finished Councilman Mosca, who apparently had not been listening very closely, asked a very obvious question that required the inspector to go through much of his presentation all over again.

I kept looking to see if any unknown candidates would suddenly stride up to the podium to make some points they feel are important to the people of Sierra Madre. Seems to be a bit of a tradition here. But none did. There is still that empty third slot available on the Buchanan/Mosca side of the political ledger that is in need of filling, but with just a few days left for someone to pick up one of those fine loose leaf candidate's notebooks from our City Clerk, no one is showing any indication of doing so. Very quiet there, too. You can't help but wonder about the anxiety that must be causing some.

And speaking of unexpected quiet, where is the Mountain Views News? This increasingly fluffy lifestyle paper, which claims to come out every Saturday, has yet to grace the sidewalks of our pleasant village with a new issue this week. I can't figure out what is more puzzling, its unexplained personality change, or the mysterious disappearance. And even if it finally shows up today, five days overdue, where will it fit in? Late for this week, or early for next? The big question being should we continue to compel our citizens to place their legal notices in a paper that can't seem to make it out on anything approaching a business-like schedule.

Mayor MacGillivray brought this meeting in under record time. And while the usual offenders still seem to believe that the public wants to be taken on long walks through the minutia of Sacramento funding procedures (or are somehow under the misapprehension that people marvel at their mastery of such arcane information), this meeting was over quickly. We'll have to see how long that lasts.

Like I said, there is just a whole lot of wait and see out there. Is it a new Sierra Madre we're seeing? Or just the calm before the storm.

71 comments:

  1. Good report, Sir Eric, thanks.

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  2. I vote calm before the storm. Yon Joe has a wolfish and hungry look in his eye. He's showing his teeth too much.

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  3. Hmmm, I think he has the look of a Sacramento pro-development politician.
    Just what Sierra Madre needs to get rid of.

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  4. I'll tell you what wasn't quiet this morning, Tattler. Baldwin Avenue. Many 18 wheelers loaded with all sorts of goodies for 1 Carter. Kind of like the hounds of war unleashed, the hounds of construction. The devs must have been waiting for last night, and then even in the rain, moved into overdrive.

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  5. City Hall make the developerd sick to the Legal START TIMES. Fine their arses if they don't. When permits were pulled that was their warning. Mama don't give chances.

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  6. Mama obviously hasn't been around a construction site...

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  7. I saw something like steel pods going up Baldwin.
    Figure they are those shacks that construction crews will use, placed here & there around the property.
    You're right 8:42. There were a lot of large vehicles heading north this morning.

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  8. What stood out for me last night were the Mayor's remarks about what was going well, what the good things were that the council accomplished in the last year.

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  9. So everybody is fine & happy with the financial situation.
    No increase of the UUT (I for one remember how hard Zimmerman fought to get a sunset clause in that UUT, & I'm counting on that)), balanced budget, new software that shows a line by line accounting.
    All good.
    But what about the culprits from before, the funny money doings?
    Oh well, never mind?

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  10. We need to replace that buffoon Anthony Adams with somebody who can get something done like Kurt Zimmerman

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  11. Adamscame out publically against Measure V and voted for SB 375. He's in league with those DIRTS who are hell-bent on destroyiong our town.

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  12. Still read the papersJanuary 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM

    Adams ain't running, except home.

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  13. Message to Republican party: draft Zimmerman to run for statewide office.

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  14. Zimmerman is a Democrat!

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  15. Who says Adams ain't running? Who is running in his place?

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  16. The Democratic Party abandoned Zimmerman as soon as they discovered that he was interested in real reform and told the truth.

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  17. It's sad that the Democratic Party has rejected Zimmerman and embraced that stuffed shirt Mosca.

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  18. Adams announced last week that he's not running. Must have some fine lobbyist gig lined up.

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  19. Note to Kurt Zimmerman --- Anthony Adams is not running.

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  20. Let's just keep the Democratic Party, the Republican Party and any other special interests out of our City Council elections.

    To Sacramento Joe Mosca!
    Keep those dozens of Young Democrats from the San Fernando Valley and Hollywood are out of Sierra Madre this time around......run a clean campaign....if it's possible for you do ever do the right thing.
    No canned calls with "special interest money" as we all experienced during the Measure V campaign.
    I better not see 1 to 2 big glossy expensive post cards delivered to my mailbox on a daily basis, or people WILL GO PUBLIC and demand special interest money stay out of this election!

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  21. Note to Republican Party, do lunch with Kurt Zimmerman

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  22. I agree with the posters who are recommending that Zimmerman run for higher office. Closer to home, however, I would like to know who is he endorsing?

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  23. Who are the Republicans going to run in place of Adams?

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  24. Don Watts stood shoulder to shoulder with Kurt Zimmerman and Kevin Dunn to fight for Measure V for the people of Sierra Madre and they won the election.
    I know we can count on Don to stand up for the folks.
    I know we can count on John Crawford aka Sir Eric Maundry. We all know where he stands on issues.
    I'm confident Pat Alcorn will promise the voters she will support the people, not special interests.

    Can't say the same for other candidates, and we know that Joe Mosca betrayed the voters and will do so again if given the chance.

    This election is a no-brainer.
    Don Watts, John Crawford and Pat Alcorn will run on the platform of SIERRA MADRE FIRST.
    They will represent us, the residents, not Sacramento or Bart Doyle's dirts.

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  25. If Pat Alcorn wants my vote, she needs to state publically where she stands on the important issues. Tattler interview?

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  26. Poster 9;41, I agree. I will keep an open mind, but I'm not going to vote for her because anonymous "vouched" for her on the Tattler.

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  27. What does Pat think about Joe becoming Mayor next year? Want to hear something definitive from her on that issue!

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  28. HEre are my litmus tests on who I am going to vote for?

    Who does Kurt Zimmerman endorse

    How did you vote on Measure V

    Where do you stand on Joe Mosca becoming Mayor

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  29. Good article on the race to replace Anthony Adams ..
    http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_14136235

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  30. I want to see or hear an endorsement from Kurt Zimmerman and Mayor MacGillivray.

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  31. Candidacy is a process. After the Filing Deadline is closed the process will begin in earnest. We are all participants in the process. Even now the candidates' campaign staffs are busy scheduling opportunities to meet face to face, to ask questions, and to become inspired by democracy in action. The season is upon us and the Tattler is leading the way!

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  32. Thanks for the article about who might replace Anthony Adams. I see that the front runner Cory Calacay is another professional politician. Not exactly the type I want to see in Sacramento. Here's his bio.

    Mayor
    City of Claremont
    (Government Agency; Government Administration industry)


    Senior District Representative
    State Senator Bob Margett
    (Legislative Office industry)

    July 2005 — November 2008 (3 years 5 months)


    District Director
    Assemblymember Todd Spitzer
    (Legislative Office industry)

    April 2004 — July 2005 (1 year 4 months)


    Field Representative
    Assemblymember Bob Pacheco
    (Legislative Office industry)

    September 2003 — March 2004 (7 months)


    Field Representative
    Assemblymember Bob Margett
    (Legislative Office industry)

    January 1996 — December 2000 (5 years )

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  33. Out of common sense and self preservation, no one should cast a vote for any candidate who voted for or supported SB375, regardless of political party.
    Same should hold true for our Sierra Madre CC election and any other city's election. Find out who the lobbyists are for Sacramento development interests and reject them, be it in Sierra Madre or Monrovia or Pasadena, etc.
    It's the responsibility of the voter to know who these people are and to reject them. We can get rid of them if we all get together and just say NO to politicians who do not represent us, the people!

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  34. I'm sure that any suspicious characters we ask about SB 375 will deny supporting it. Joe for sure, even though he works for SCAG, the organization that is enabling and enforcing it.

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  35. I'm sure people will judge Joe Mosca, strictly on his consistent voting in favor of development and the "Sacramento Way". I know my friends and family will.
    Mosca has a hideous voting record the past 4 years and he needs to be called out on it!
    This blog has documented almost all of Mosca's votes against the people of Sierra Madre.
    In my humble opinion after watching all the City Council meetings, and reading much of the documented public comments by Mosca....I conclude he is nothing more than a lobbyist for Sacramento interests, BIA interests, and all the special interest who have inappropriately contributed to campaigns in this town of Sierra Madre.
    Consider this all you voters:
    Joe Mosca has had the same political signs on his lawn in every election as had the homes of Bart Doyle, Rob Stockley, John Buchanan, Enid Joffe, Tonja Torres.....except his own election in 2006, where he had only ONE sign on his lawn....HIS OWN. This was the year he betrayed half the town. Watch the tape on NEUROBLAST FILMS where he insults Barbara Cline, one of the town's finest, kindest volunteers, who trusted Joe, had him at her dinner table, threw a campaign fund raiser for him, only to have (on tape) Joe Mosca telling her to "get a life" A impudent young man, making such a rude remark to a senior citizen he betrayed is just disgusting.
    I urge all folks with a sense of fair play to reject this man's bid for re-election.

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  36. I liked what Don Watts had to say last night about how he is there to listen and represent what the people of Sierra Madre want. Contrast that to Joe and John who talk endlessly and are always trying to convince everyone to accept what they want. Things that never seem to come without strings attached.

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  37. We are politically myopic in Sierra Madre. If we can successfully campaign for the passage of Measure V, than we can successfully campaign for the elction of John Crawford, Don Watts and somebody competent to replace Anthony Adams too.

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  38. "Shane (I mean Kurt Zimmerman) come back!"

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  39. With Kurt's intelligence and integrity, he will be a success wherever he goes.
    Thanks for the town Kurt.

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  40. I think who is going to replace Anthony Adams is a really big deal for Sierra Madre. Asking that JC write an article about that on the Tattler before he gears up for his campaign.

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  41. The credits roll, a sad song playing, this is where the cowboy rides away.

    Thanks from everyone, Kurt.

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  42. 1:54 --- Maybe we should become a political advocacy group. Use the lessons we've learned in Sierra Madre and apply them elswhere as well. No parties, just people who will do right by the people whose votes they ask for.

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  43. If Sierra Madre has entered into a new era of political peace, they can thank one person for that, and that person is Sir Eric Maundry.

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  44. No, Virginia there is no one person...

    It's the folks who have come together, endured years of insult and innuendo, and rallied behind Kurt, Don, and MaryAnn. Not that Sir Eric Maundry hasn't been a part of all of that but truly there is no one person.

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  45. Poster 2:25,

    I'm not sure that I would describe it as "political peace," so much as a new "political era." And, many residents deserve credit for this positive transformation.

    One figure who is often ignored is Salvatore Tesoro whose paper ran hard-hitting articles about the "Shenanigan years." And, while they have moved away, we should not forget the contributions of Kevin and Katina Dunn. Measure V was the brainchild of Kevin and Councilman Kurt Zimmerman. The two of them contributed their time and much of their money to ensure that it passed.

    Kevin's wife Katina published a "real" newspaper with articles written by investigative journalists. Katina's paper peeled away the layers of darkness that had been obscuring the political process in Sierra Madre. In fact, our beloved knight, Sir Eric, cut his journalistic teeth in Sierra Madre, as a contributor to the paper.

    Katina's paper was the best source of information regarding what Kurt Zimmerman and Don Watts were doing right for Sierra Madre on the City Council and what Councilman Mosca was doing wrong. Katina always strove for accuracy. Indeed, I think it was her unbiased reporting on proposed development in our downtown that brought people out to the polls and led to the passage of Measure V.

    I cried when Susan Henderson gained control of that paper.

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  46. I hope articles from Katina's paper along with those from the Tattler, which document Joe Mosca's abysmal record as a Councilman, will be dusted off and circulated to the undecided voters.

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  47. I'm afraid all this talk about not running a "dirty campaign" will discourage the candidates running for City Council from publicizing Joe Mosca's record.

    We need to get the message out to the undecided voters that Joe is really bad news.

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  48. Crawford is the heir to the work of a lot of other people. He has made his own contribition, and it has been a good one. But, and as I am sure he would acknowledge, it took half a village.

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  49. Look all of you posters, if you really want to thank Kurt Zimmerman for saving Sierra Madre, then support his policy initiatives the last few months he's in office!!!!!!!

    If memory serves me, he's proposed a forensic audit, an anti-blight bill, a UUT roll-back and demanded that Susan Henderson disclose the exact number of her subscribers.

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  50. City Hall has been dragging out the passage of an anti-blight bill for months.

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  51. There was a great article in the Star News about Kurt Zimmerman's decision not to seek reelection and which also enumerated his many accomplishments, while on the City Council.

    NOT!

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  52. I checked the Looney Views News site to see if they had anything about this, but apparently it is still New Years Eve there.

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  53. Oh, if we could all make time stand still. I want to be 37 again - it was such a great time in my life. I must call Susan to see how it's done! Imagine a New Year's Eve 13 days long!

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  54. Don Watts for City Council!
    John Crawford for City COuncil!
    Pat Alcorn for City Council!
    Kurt Zimmerman for State Assembly!

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  55. It is the calm in eye of the tornando, there is no extra money, arnold says he thinks things wont pick up till 2013 or 2014, other construction developers are saying not for thirty years. I have been following world reports christoper story global analysis and he reported interpol had arrived to pay out the settlements of the 47 million or trillion dollar lien against the us treasury and then we heard obama has signed new privledges to interpol, if you haven't read it, go to the archive section and go back to december third 2009 and forward, he says some of the payouts were done and then there is a story of 46 million the fed made for the treasury, it is exciting only to the MIP's as it claims barrington investments run by the bushes, has been thwarted. I mentioned barrington as being the fundamental case which allowed eminent domain by transportation in 1977, in a town called barrington. His assets, the clintons, the secret money to fund the copenhagen got to have cap and trade derivatives, have been seized and there is a new policy at the department of justice regarding financial fraud, they claim the illegal assets made by haliburton and cheney have been seized also. Barrington is mentioned in several reports and I believe bush family and friends are huge profiteers behind the overdevelopment of california and key employees of the redevelopment agencies. You know the unknown government?
    We know his strategic economics agreement with the chinese in 1987 is a big part of the rapid development and the psychological operations used against people who do not want to develop and have been wrongly accused of blight.

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  56. I want to be able to tell people why they should not vote for Joe Mosca. I know he lied to the voters when he said that they could vote on the downtown specific plan. But what about some of his other misdeeds? Help me!!!

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  57. Anon 3:29 How is telling the truth about a candidate's record considered "running a dirty campaign?"

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  58. poster at 3:29

    It's not "dirty politics" to expose a candidate's record. Refer to Old Kentucky's post
    at 11:34.
    Pretty damn good account of Mosca's record.

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  60. All because the Mayberry Mafia thought they were going to make some big time money on the DSP...

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  61. Rosebud: Thank you, I have read parts of this over the past year and tried to make sense of it. It is apphalling. And speaking of a "tornado" we Sierra Madreans know the tragedy of earthquake and should come together as a community to help these victims.

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  62. I think it's important to know what it was that Joe Mosca promised the voters about the downtown specific plan or DSP and how he broke that promise.

    Here's what happened in a nutshell:

    During his campaign for office, Joe Mosca promised the citizens of Sierra Madre that they would have an opportunity to vote on the DSP. The draft DSP was a master plan that would have encouraged the construction of condo complexes, aboveground parking garages and other monstrosities in our downtown. Mosca made the same promise to many residents during a candidates debate.

    Councilman Zimmerman made the same promise; only he tried to keep it. At a Council meeting, Zimmerman made a motion that would allow the residents to approve or disapprove of the DSP after it was finalized.

    At that meeting, however, Mosca announced that he would not vote to put the DSP on any ballot unless he approved of it first. You can listen to Mosca's speech on Neuroblast on Youtube.


    Zimmerman's motion was defeated 3-2.
    Many of Mosca's supporters were outraged by his "flip-flop." Not surprisingly, Mosca subsequently proposed a timeline whereby after the DSP had been completed, the voters would have the opportunity to cast their votes for its approval or disapproval. At least that's what Mosca has said to many residents that he did.

    In reality, he moved for a non-binding vote or "survey" of the voters. So, once again Mosca broke his promise.

    In fact, Mosca repeatedly and steadfastly rejected Zimmerman's demand that the vote be binding. Mosca did say that he would abide by the will of voters as determined by the survey. Having already shredded his credibility by previously reneging on his campaign promise, very few of Mosca's supporters believed that he would keep this new promise. Moreover, it is important to note that at no time during that Council meeting or any Council meeting thereafter did Mosca offer a coherent explanation for why he voted against Zimmerman's motion for a binding vote; especially, when he (Mosca) claimed he would abide by the will of the voters as expressed in the survey.

    In June 2006, Mosca released a misleading statement that "once the DSP has taken shape and the process has been completed in the coming months, it will be put to a vote by the people of Sierra Madre, hopefully with our County elections this fall."

    Nowhere in his statement, however, was there any mention of Mosca's actual motion, which called for a mere survey and not a binding vote. You can read his statement at http://smradicals.blogspot.com/

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  63. Mosca also voted to keep the environmental impact report of the draft DSP secret.
    Don Watts showed up quite ill to vote in favor of a motion made by Councilman Zimmerman to release it. Zimmerman's motion passed and a visibly upset Mosca stormed out of the Council Chamber.

    You can see this on neuroblast too. It's hilarious!

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  64. Kurt Zimmerman kept his promises to the voters, so did Don Watts and so has MacGillivray.
    I was at all their campaign coffees.
    Joe Mosca lied, and lied and lied more.

    If this man had to tell the truth, I fear he would choke himself to death.

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  65. Great comment 6:15

    This is all "fair game" against Sacramento Traitor Joe.
    Get used to it Mosca. We are not going to let you slide onto the council again with your damn lies.
    Every thing the poster at 6:15 told us can be backed up with documented facts.

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  66. Thankfully, the smart voters gave City Clerk, Nancy Shollenberger the win in '08, Nancy had to wage a very tough campaign against Bart Doyle's fellow employee at BIA's TITAN (is it still under investigation by the district attorney)?
    This pal and fellow employee of Bart Doyle's ran a vicious campaign, probably financed by the BIA and used Henderson's stolen paper to print LIES about Nancy.
    Speaking of Nancy, the then Buchanan, Mosca, Joffe majority vote was not going to let her do the minuets,anyone remember that?
    KURT ZIMMERMAN offered to donate his monthly salary to help pay for Nancy's services as City Clerk. Along with very strong public support, the Buchanan, Mosca, Joffe majority had to give in.
    It's so great we have Nancy, because she is HONEST. She keeps an honest minuets report and is a SUPERIOR CITY CLERK.
    Thanks Kurt for doing that. I remember.

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  67. Registered DemocratJanuary 13, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Thank you 6:15 for your well written facts of Joe Mosca. Voters will need to know the truth. Many of us stood by and watched and listened to his downfall.....many of us in total shock. For we stood up and counted on him and believed in him. We know how it feels to trust him and look into his eyes and believe him. But, the truth came out in his behavior, and we had to believe the truth as we saw him turn against those of us who once believed in him....This is a well written acount of history. WE all vow to never let history repeat itself. The people of Sierra Madre who are still msemorized will know the truth. We have the facts in his voting and the way he treated so many of us with a lack of respect and honesty.

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  68. Scarlett T is for TattlerJanuary 13, 2010 at 10:35 PM

    Hello brave tats, I see a new address for campaign contributions to our brave sir eric aka
    John Crawford. I have to say that while I do not reside in Sierra Madre I have lived and been revived through sir erics and other brave tats spirits expressed through the sierra madre tattlers spectacular stories and comments. So I am remitting a check tommorrow for the crawford campaign. I would like to donate time and I give good phone. I can walk the neighborhood streets and do whatever it takes to help Mr John Crawford become a councilperson. Having survived a recent local election in my town, I need to remind tats to dig a little deep in their pockets. Printing, signs, costs add up and several persons who ran and lost went through 8 to 10 thousand, running minimalist campaigns.

    Hey I also have a friend & musician named teddy lee hooker. He plays blues, and I have paid him in advance, not knowing what occasion to use him for,just in case john crawford wants to have a blues in the square thingy. I can donate his great music.

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  69. That Rosebud post made me wanna go and read up about it. Illuminati stuff again. Entertaining, anyway.

    http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=151871.0

    I guess we don't want to discuss global politics in here, either?

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  70. Won't have to worry about Joe ever being the mayor if he is DEFEATED! Anyway, Don Watts is Mayor Pro-tem so be sure to work to see that he is reelected. John Crawford has your support for sure. Pat Alcorn supports the canyon zone update, the General Plan update, the preservation of our downtown through the application of Measure V standards and the application of the Hillside Standards to all building at 1 Carter and Stonehouse. You will all like her candidacy, just give a listen!

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  71. Anonymous 2:25: the reason I give Sir Eric Maundry the credit is that the corruption of the media in Sierra Madre, both in print and on blogs (which is notorius) was choking all productive political action in Sierra Madre. Also the mobilization of the people towards important ends, happened on this blog.

    Of course the struggle is not over, but the gains that have been made here, are incredible.

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