Saturday, May 15, 2010

Skilled Nursing Facility: Where Did Those 'For Sale' Signs Go?

We've all heard about Black Helicopters. Those mysterious military aircraft that some suspect can be seen hovering in the skies when particularly unpleasant things are being done to this freedom loving land by mysterious and unknown international conspiracies and cabals.

But here in Sierra Madre we have a different worry. And that would be Black Maseratis. There was one seen at the Skilled Nursing Facility the day after our City Council reorganization. Occupied by burly looking gentlemen with Ross Perot haircuts and wearing nearly identical business clothing. And wouldn't you know it? They were back at the Skilled Nursing Facility again just yesterday. What these dudes have been doing there nobody seems to know for sure. But there is one thing that is very certain. When they got back into that car yesterday, and then sped off to wherever it is they come from, the 'For Sale' signs at the Skilled Nursing Facility were gone.

Now you may recall that those 'For Sale' signs were a pretty big deal not so long ago. After years of watching the SNF falling into disrepair, it was decided by the City Council that an effort should be made to get something happening there. The building had become a symbol that the opponents of Measure V rallied around. To them it was certain proof that the economic viability of Sierra Madre had been forever harmed when the Downtown Specific Plan was voted out of existence. So when actual 'For Sale' signs appeared on the site, it was
seen as the coming of a Sierra Madre renaissance. We were finally moving forward and the building that had become the center of so much local contention would soon be just another prosperous Sierra Madre business again.

But now those signs are gone. And nobody seems to know why. Has the property been sold? Are we finally going to get the Urgent Care Center this town so desperately needs? Or could it be that we're about to witness a less happy outcome. Has Fish Construction taken the Skilled Nursing Facility off the market? Perhaps they've worked out a special understanding with the Moscateers? One that involves a possible return to planning for the kind of high density condominium settlement that was the reason this property had been purchased in the first place?

As of this typing nobody has any answers. But a lot of people are working on this, and as the day goes on we hope to post new information. If you have anything you would like to share, or theories you would want to air out, or just have some questions to ask, then please post them here. Because there are a lot of people who need to know.

65 comments:

  1. Do we need an urgent care center in Sierra Madre? There is one being built on Del Mar near Madre in East Pasadena.

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  2. How about a "SNF webcam" on a neighbor's property? Beats watching the online birds hatch an egg.

    Write down the license plate next time.

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  3. Actually we have some pictures that show the license plate #. But we decided not to use them here.

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  4. Howl HamminbeansMay 15, 2010 at 7:30 AM

    This is puzzling. Why would the new owner (if there is one) be sending his guys in a Maserati? There are plenty of guys across the street who could have taken down those signs, and they wouldn't be quite as expensive to transport.

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  5. The Fish never intended to sell the place. He was stalling until the Golden Child made it to the throne.

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  6. So it could have been The Fish and the fishlings coming out to make a final walk around before the ground breaking ceremonies? Clearly it wasn't any local RE's in a Maserati - they tend more to SUVs and MBZ's.

    Can they get a plan through WillDan without going through the Planning Commission?

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  7. Why I hate Christopher HitchensMay 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM

    What this little berg of Sierra Madre lacks is a sense of historical importance. The SNF is architecturally part and parcel of the history and culture of this town, And therein lies its importance.

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  8. I hear Rusnak is really interested in opening a Maybach dealership there. The drive to the showroom is going to be named Tobai Way.

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  9. Look I just don't think those signs would fit into the trunk of a Maserati. Since they came down coincidentally with a visit by large men in dark suits my bet is they are leaning against a wall inside. But in the interest of truth in reporting is there a connection between the poofed signs and a visit by well fed aliens?

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  10. Those aliens, friend. They live among us. Many now occupy positions of high importance in this town.

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  11. Yes, I agree with Why I Hate Christopher Hitchens. I know for a fact that many a Councilman had his VD treated at the SNF when it was a local clinic and hospital.

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  12. Elephant's MemoryMay 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM

    George Mauer offered to introduce a CC candidate to Fish way back in the 2006 election. Ask George what Fish is up to.

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  13. Explains George's gushing endorsement of Joe Mosca.

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  14. I hear the signs were ground up into sawdust and taken over to Henderson's house to aid in the production of her fall line of voodoo dolls.

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  15. Only in Vanity FairMay 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM

    But Christopher Hitchens has a whole snarky little bio in this month's issue of VF. How can you not love the poor slob? I thought his extreme makeover last year, documented by VF, was quite refreshing. Didn't improve his character, however.

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  16. maybe no coincidence, but lotsa fancy cars parked around Mrs. Neeby's house the last few days since Baby Joe got to office......no gossip intended. Just an observation.....

    Susan is always at Mrs. Neeby's. Probably baked her some cookies.

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  17. 6:52,
    In the event of a real catastrophe, like the kind that will bring down the freeway, we are cut off from reaching any medical facility.
    Yeah, we need an urgent care center in town.

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  18. Will someone please elaborate on Fish?
    Who is this person?

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  19. If you want to get an idea of what the new and improved SNF will be, check out the DSP in the library.
    Condos, shops, underground parking. And probably a flashing light for when the fire department needs to get onto the road...because there are no traffic lights allowed in the Sierra Madre General Plan.
    Oh that's right - there WERE no traffic lights allowed./
    Who knows how a consultant will tweak that.

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  20. The traffic at Lima and SM Blvd is bad enough already.

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  21. Shades of Al Capone..only they rode about in black Lincolns.

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  22. She Who Shakes Fists At HelicoptersMay 15, 2010 at 11:47 AM

    Well if I was Emil Fish and had a website I would name it Regency Park Senior Living 905 S. Fair Oaks Pasadena 773-8800 and I would show purty pictures of my senior urban villages, also pictures of my associates on the website, that could be easily identified if they were in a leased masserati, I would stop trying to sell it and rehab it with grant money. Of course I also help out any lost black helicopters by pointing my finger at it and showing it the way to go, and it does not matter if the black helicopter is sorry later, because it should not have been hovering 20 ft above you anyway, and doing its ritual I am black helicopter, embarressing you in airport parking lots, or at your home, it should have believed you in the first place.

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  23. Gabrielino Indian News Flash.................they're going to open a Casino at the SNF site.

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  24. Maseratis have very small trunks. Where do they put their prisoners?

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  25. Hey she who shakes fists, very helpful. Thanks. We're sure he's the owner or part owner?
    A big tell to that company is that they call the senior care they offer "prestigious"

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  26. Look at FishEnterprises - Wisteria Village.
    http://www.fishenterprises.com/gallery32.htm

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  27. Wow, that's a lotta parking!

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  28. Old news omg. Go to PBWS, look at projects, then housing.
    Wisteria Village. Think they were ganging up a long time ago.

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  29. A LOVELY 54 unit housing complex with retail component.
    "Wisteria Village is designed to integrate retail shops and courtyard housing into the downtown area of a small Southern California community recently named an "All-American City". The project was designed to blend into the small town feeling of the surrounding community. A tree-lined retail strip along the town's main thoroughfare connects the complex with the adjacent commercial zone and lends the housing units privacy and protection from the street."

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  30. What do they need protection from the street for?
    The bumper to bumper traffic the development will create.

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  31. The Wisteria Village condos will be the ultimate in Green - no water. The residents will manually import their water needs.

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  32. I do believe we need senior housing, is prestigious affordable?May 15, 2010 at 1:04 PM

    Hum Virginia too.. So it must have been rendered a while back , and was not allowed in?
    Or the money ran out? Nah, probably needed a little help from the city. Does that look like it is much bigger than the vacant skilled nursing center now? I mean are they going to have to relocate someone close to there to accomadate the plan?

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  33. There will not be a SNF on the site. Get over it. It lost its COE! It's too expensive to rehab! It's going to be condos over retail!

    As for a medical facility north of the freeway, are you daft? The reason St. Luke's folded was because it couldn't stay afloat! We're going to put together a 30,000 sq ft facility for a tiny town where most of the folks go to Kaiser, when Methodist and Huntington are just a few miles away? On the off chance that the big one may hit in our lifetime?

    If the catastrophe is so great that not one of the arterials to Arcadia or Pasadena is usable how do you think the medical personnel are going to get to work? Better you should figure out how you're going to save your food and water from the marauders who will come to take them from you in the name of martial law.

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  34. 1:12, kinda into the apocalypse huh?

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  35. I looked at Mr. Fish's site. Very impressive. It didn't mention the $4K to $6K a month it takes to rent one of his fancy cubicles. It'll be hard to pick out which of the 250 employees he brought with him to Sierra Madre since they aren't all pictured. I'm still saying that the 55 condos Fred Weasley designed will bring in more cash than the $25 to $30 million to build a multi story senior living tower that'll cater to wealthy renters.

    Tattlers, we're going to have to lurk in the shadows until we read about the project in the PSN or on the business pages of THE Magazine. Keep posting your observations!

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  36. 1:12 - I don't think too many of our more well-heeled Fish Farm inhabitants will up to the demand of a good food riot. They'll be found red-faced and wheezing in the street, like fish (there it is again) out of water.

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  37. 1:16, did you miss the coverage of the earthquake in Haiti? No apocalypse there - just a cyclic rearrangement of the tectonic plates. Did you see the grocery store shelves in the Gulf when hurricane season hits?

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  38. BIA bureau of indian affairsMay 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM

    I hate redevelopment, but I do believe in senior housing. I believe fish is an indian name, it hails from the mingo delaware lenappe munsee indians, mink fish etc. A Fish is ten times more ethical than a Doyle.

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  39. only a blooming idiot would build condos and retail directly across from a police and fire station.

    we'll end up with more prima donna Santa Moncia wannabees moving into town and then demanding that the fire department not turn on their sirens until they are 1,000 feet from the station house

    and then the condo owners will sue to stop the pancake breakfasts because it causes too much traffic and sue the city to stop the concerts because of the noise

    and we need a few more thousand feet of retail space to compliment the turnover, vacanies and consistent failures that we already have in downtown

    brilliant minds we have with Buahanan, Mosca and Moran. just brilliant.

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  40. Self-involved privileged dilettantes are very much the Mosca-Buchanan political base, 1:35.

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  41. I did my pubiic service today, I threw away another copy of the Weakly and the Observer. If I ever see a copy of Tobia's Rusank rag, I'll make sure to throw away a copy of it also.

    Try it, you'll feel better. Pick up a copy of the Obsever, Weekly or duh magazine for yourself and your neighhbor and throw them away in the trash.

    It's legal and it's rewarding.

    It's a public service.

    In fact, I thiink it's legal to toss up to 10 at a time.

    But, that takes away the enjoyment from a neighbor.

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  42. 1:41,,,,,,,at least take them home and put them in the recycle bin,,,,,chump!

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  43. I always use the Loony Views News to line our budgie cage. I like to position the paper so that Hail Hamilton's picture is exposed and easily targeted by my birds.

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  44. Bear ware of psychic celtic indiansMay 15, 2010 at 2:05 PM

    1:34 if it gets that bad they will be the food, in a catastrophe, cannibalism replaces civility. Just think of them as a food source.

    I don't suppose any of you have read the "Safe Locations" website by the zeta retillians, you should, the forecast for California is a bit bleak, essentially if a tsunami came into The San Gabriel Valley basin, the water would not recede, El Monte is .08 ft below sea level, it would sit here being trapped in a big bowl, the story says the lowlanders of course will try to head to the mountains, but apparently the military has safeguards to prevent them from escaping to the mountains. However the cities at the base of the mountains will be ravaged for food and water. It tells about most of the world locations, so I bought property in the lower Ozarks of Oklahoma with water, just in case, all Tatts are welcome. You can peruse century 21 wright real estate, Tahlequah OK and see what is available, it is a college town, and at least three out of ten people are from CA.

    Just saying just in case, already asked Old Kentucky.

    Of course at the time I had met two mennonite women from North Carolina that said they came all the way here, to tell Arnold about their psychic dream of CA going into the Ocean, they said Arnold threatened to have them institutionalized and they were on their way home, they had a safe cave. Go Figure

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  45. 2:04 Hail Hamiltons face, how could you be so cruel to your sweet innocent birdies, I hope they are optimum poopers

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  46. I trust Sir Eric to let me know if there is anything in that paper that is worth a moment's notice.
    Otherwise, it might seem like someone is actually interested enough to pick up a copy, or look at it online.

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  47. Keep civility with overbuildingMay 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    1:35 Yes, you are so correct: Condos and retail! Just like the Santa Anita Mall and The Paseo, only Bloomin Idiots who do not care about the residents who live here.

    Have you ever noticed during vacation periods how mobbed they are with all the other bloomin idiots who take their children shopping just to get away from home, and they allow them to run around out-of-control? And, it is a parking nightmare.

    There will be parking on residential streets from Orange Grove to Grand View. A NICE new place to overcivilize and overcharm.

    Thanks Joe, John, Josh, Nancy and BART.

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  48. If the world had ended (shifted in the new speak) every time different groups of people or individuals predicted it would, we would have been over and out a long, long, long time ago. Course, it's always possible that this 9 millionth prediction will be the one....The last day in 999 AD must have been quite a nail biter, at least for Christians.

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  49. Well, every day is a world ending day for someone...

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  50. If El Monte is below sea level and won't drain how come Two rivers flow through it

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  51. I heard talk of the former SNF turning into an HIV clinic?

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  52. It will all be over by 1843, no, make that 1844, no make that 2012.
    Yes, that's it, 2012.

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  53. 4:30, the answer to that one is simple. All things that exist in nature have an uncontrollable need to get out of El Monte. Even water, which will flow uphill to escape.

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  54. 4:30, you might be referring to the negotiations that were going on to make a health care clinic there that served the indigent, and had an HIV help center as a part of that.
    Think that was one of the plans that failed to get anywhere.

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  55. might as well repentMay 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM

    i googled end of the world predictions and found an impressive list:
    http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

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  56. I guess the citizens who voted for Joe, Nancy and Josh forgot to ask them exactly what "slow growth", "in the confines of Measure V" and "Keeping Sierra Madre quaint" meant. To them it meant a LOVELY 54 unit housing complex with retail shops.

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  57. Thanks, 5:11, that must have been where I heard that.
    Don't think that idea would have been too profitable for the dirt investor's group.

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  58. Certainly there was a lack of depth to the bobbleheads and their campaign rhetoric. It was basically a cut or two above babytalk. But that did resonate with a lots of the locals, did it not?

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  59. Well, there is one thing to be said about the most predictions about the end of the world. It apparently won't be boring. Unfortunately though, I don't think it will happen in such a dramatic fashion. Rather it will probably take place as 75 or years of humanity scratching each others eyes out over dwindling resources such as food, water and living space. Even with world ending cataclysm, you need to take the realistic viewpoint.

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  60. There's a lot of that doomsaying out there, responding to a simple and obvious observation that we've expanded beyond global and local resources, and are beginning to feel it here in the USA. Deteriorating quality of life because extracting these resources destroys the systems that provide us with what it takes to live. Vicious circle that involves killing the goose for the gold.

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  61. 4:30 and 5:04 All right bratt tatt's El Monte is a joke, but the Safe Locations site describes the LA basin, I used El Monte because I knew its sea level stats, I was following the line of comments, but if you use virtual earth or google and look from the edge of the ocean to the hills, you can see, it is entirely possible. Of course it also says the survivors of the Texas submersion will be crawling up to the border towns of lower OK, who knows? It did state there would be extensive flooding, in the eastern part of the US, and a year later we saw Iowa flood, last year Missouri, this year Nashville. You have golf ball size hail in CO in July. Tornadoes in Orange County. I apologize to anyone offended by the topic, it was the marauders, aliens, and surviving talk that's all.

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  62. Cheer up Karmageddon. Maybe it will all go out in a big ball o'fire....

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  63. Oracle for First WaterMay 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM

    From Zetatalk.com:

    "Los Angeles, the City of Angels, will not fare well during the coming earth changes. Long before the actual shift troubles will beset this city, situated on the Pacific coast and atop many active fault lines. The increasingly severe quakes racking the Earth during this time will escalate to include quakes of a high enough Richter to bring down buildings and bridges in this city dependent upon its freeway system. Broken gas lines, polluted water lines, and the smog situation made worse by fires in the city will cause a return to riots and police brutality of the past. During the week of rotation stoppage, the crust of the Earth is under severe stress, moaning under this, until the shift causes it to separate from the core and move. During this time, as we have mentioned, the Atlantic is stretched, causing the south-east portion of the US and Caribbean and islands to the west of England to lose some of their elevation, creating flood tide hazard even before the shift itself. The Pacific likewise has stress, not in a stretch but in a compression. This will cause quakes of a high enough Richter to put Los Angeles into chaos. As the elite in the US are anticipating mobs from LA invading their enclaves higher in the mountains and inland, roads blocked by the military, protecting the elite, can be expected. Anyone not out of LA by the week of rotation stoppage can anticipate being entombed there, as once the shift starts the flood tide will wash the entire city against the mountain backdrop."

    Now I'm thinking the SNF could be fortified; all we need is CRA funds. You may laugh, but I gotta tell you I think the bobbleheads mights go for this.

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  64. /Get some dirt under your fingernails for a changeMay 15, 2010 at 7:50 PM

    And in the days prior to the tribulation just mentioned by OforFW the RE agents of the foothills will be revered as gods and we landowners will raise our voices to the heavens singing "Oh What a Mighty Fortress is Our Clod",

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  65. Thank you oracle of the first water..

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