Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Parading This Monday? Don't Forget To Sign Your Water Play Release Waiver!

(Ed: Originally appearing on July 2, 2010, this post has become the most viewed ever on The Tattler. In a City where "double dip fees" have become the norm, is it no wonder kids now have forms they need to fill out as well?)

We've all heard about how pesky kids squirting water pistols at the Sierra Madre Fire Department at our 4th (or is that our 5th) of July Parade is a tradition that has now been left behind. No longer will kids and firemen duke it out along the parade route. And the throwing of candy? Oh dear no, that simply will not do, either. It is a control freak world we're living in nowadays, and Mr. and Mrs. S. M. Nuisance need to have their way. They are important people, and know that you can only properly appreciate the magnitude of their influence here in town when they're killing your joy.

The parade water pistol ban seems to be particularly unpopular, especially among those having young kids. Allowances for proper behavior aside, you should always try to encourage a free and spontaneous spirit in the little guys. And the last thing any parent enjoys seeing is their kids subjected to the same tedious and politically correct over regulation of everything fun that we as adults face. Childhood, and certainly during as festive an occasion as a parade celebrating the birth of our American freedoms, should be a refuge from such petty tyranny. But alas, that no longer seems to be the case with our 4th (or 5th) of July Parade. It is quite an unfortunate lesson for children, if you think about it.

On the Sierra Madre News.net website, where somber enthusiasm for Sierra Madre's new wave of behavior codes is sometimes elevated to near religious levels, the rules for "water play" are carefully spelled out. Here is how Rooster Coburn explains all the non-excitement:

New Water Rules For Fourth (sic) Of July ... Traditionally, water has been squirted back and forth amongst viewers and participants during the parade. However, this year the City has established a new set of Water Play Zone Guidelines. Sierra Vista Park is now the only designated water play zone (west side of the park on the grass lawn). The Sierra Madre Fire Department will be spraying water into Sierra Vista Park for children and families to play in. Only water/squirt guns will be permitted at the water play zone. Absolutely no water balloons or use of water hoses will be tolerated at the water play zone or anywhere along the parade route. Absolutely NO water will be allowed along the parade route. Parking signage will exhibit a "No Water Zone" notice along Sierra Madre Blvd.

Apparently there is even a Release Form that must be signed before you can participate in the carefully controlled joys of the Water Play Zone. Click on the inset above for instructions and a place to sign. I'm not sure whether you'll need to bring your lawyer or not.

Now all of this has not escaped the notice of some Sierra Madreans. Here is a note sent to this site recently by the parents of young kids. They have decided not to sign the release form.

I have long wondered how our super sensitive Chief of Police could have arrested that poor Sierra Madre dad for shooting her with a water gun during a parade where the highlight is shooting water at local officials (the Fire Department) and being shot with water by local officials (the Fire Department). I guess he should be thankful the Chief only arrested him. After all, SMPD could have 'tazed him, which might have resulted in electrocution. Alternatively, SMPD could have shot him like the poor slumbering guy in the back of the Murano.

In any event, it is now clear that he was arrested for violating the official parade waiver, which requires one to promise, on apparent penalty of arrest, not to "engage in water play with any individual who does not similarly indicate an intent, and willing participation in water play." How one determines a person's "intent and willing participation in water play" must be like pornography - you know it when you see it.

Thank God we live in a small town where 8 year olds have to sign a water play waiver to walk in the Fourth of July parade! And a small town where the local constabulary threaten you with arrest for participating in water play so prevalent that it is included in the parade waiver. And where they arrest you for washing poop off the sidewalk. And, of course, where they shoot you for sleeping off your Buc buzz in the back of a car.

It is nice to see that the spirit of freedom still lives on in Sierra Madre. Too bad it has now been restricted to the sidelines during a parade honoring the birth of American democracy.

92 comments:

  1. It appears we have some petty Totalitarians living amongst us.Welcome to the Republic Of Sierra Madre!

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  2. Don't Taze Me Chief Diaz!July 2, 2010 at 8:09 AM

    i would like to congratulate the chief and mayor mosca for their efforts at wringing the last ounce of fun out of the parade. sadly, this year we will not hear hundreds of our children squeel in delight as they engage in water battle. we will also be denied the cooling spray shot by our equally delighted fire department.

    instead, the highlight will be seeing mayor mosca accepting the accolades of his joyous subjects. and the chief bringing up the rear with her windows up and the air conditioning on, isolated from the masses she is charged with policing.

    still, not all is lost. i will view this as a "teaching moment." instead of joyfully celebrating the 4th with my neighbors, i will educate the kids on the meaning of liability waivers and how cover your ass small town politicians do stupid things to justify their existence.

    thanks chief! thanks mayor mosca!

    PS: VOTE AGAINST THE WATER INCREASE!

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  3. play safe or we'll shootJuly 2, 2010 at 8:12 AM

    The killjoys are now in charge. I wonder what they'll think of next.

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  4. There is a form you need to sign, but it is not this. Scroll down to June 30 to find the right one.

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  5. What's it costing the city to run this new Water Rules program, monitor the signatures (what the heck does that do?), file the paperwork, increase the time that police monitor everyone on a holiday ($$$) and so forth? Is there a budget line item for this in the City Manager's office?

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  6. What do you want to bet that there are some bad young 'uns cooking up a sneaky water balloon scheme?
    Nothing brings out rebellion like excessive regulation.

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  7. I hear the SMPOA is organizing a 'water play'
    ambush. Watch out, Chief!

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  8. I assume you get a wrist band to enter the water area???? Must keep out the non signers

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  9. Hey, Sierra Madre needs a 10-40-75 percent water tax. So holster those pistols, and coil those hoses. Get with the program and conserve water.

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  10. I suspect it will be like the beer garden. Fenced in with everyone getting sloshed.

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  11. water squirting resident who signed the NO water letterJuly 2, 2010 at 9:32 AM

    Diaz and Mosca both new to town. Get in power and try to remake our town. Don't move here if you wnat to change it. We don't need you or your ideas.

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  12. The DICtator, Mosca probably didn't enjoy his childhood, so he doesn't want anyone else to!

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  13. I can't help but wonder who came up with
    that awful term "water play zone." Such
    stilted and lifeless language!

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  14. Explain how we can put sworn officers into the water play zone on a holiday to arrest young children but we can't enforce five two-hour parking spaces in the Canyon public parking lot. Parking enforcement could cover the cost of patrols and ticket writing. The water play zone is not a profit center.

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  15. Diaz has been a SM resident for years; don't lump her in with the carpet bagger and the 4th of July Committee Chairman. She pays taxes and water rate hikes just like the rest of us - very different from most of the City staff.

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  16. I just want to mention that it was painfully obvious at last night's Planning Commission meeting some folks are hopelessly addicted to seeing themselves on TV. Concentrate on the quality of the input and not so much on the quantity and you might be taken more seriously. This stream of consciousness approach is a bore.

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  17. 9:57 - obviously this is personal for the Chief. She herself was the tragic victim of water play, and it has turned her into a pitbull on the topic. The only thing she seems to care about more is increasing the size of her empire.

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  18. The irony of a reduction of freedoms on Independence Day is so thick you can stick a fork in it.

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  19. Good point, True Freedom. Sierra Madre is now under the thumb of control freaks like Three Minute Joe. Fun is no longer sustainable here.

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  20. channel 3 watcherJuly 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM

    Tv critic @10:04, any resident who gets down to city hall for a meeting, and cares enough to get up and talk, should be heard, whether a good speaker or a fool.I can't stand going to those meetings, so I'm glad some people can.

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  21. Our current Mayor has assumed he already knows what is best for us all, so public comment is just something he merely endures. Though he does seem to enjoy cutting people off midthought with his 15 second warning.

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  22. Exactly right, 10:44.......this is Joe's idea of "fun".
    What an creep.

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  23. The real fun of the Parade is the water baloons!!

    I clearly remember the purpose of the parade for kids was to throw the baloons filled with water at every and anyone and spat! they got wet! It was a blast!

    Sorry to those of you who are trying to put the quabash on TRADITION! but that is what makes the Sierra Madre 4th of July parade so much fun. It is a small home town parade where all of the kids throw those baloons and giggle like crazy watching people un-expectedly get cooled off on a hot summer's day.

    Everyone is laughing together at a parade. Such fun! Wonderful childhood memories. Thank you past Mayor's who gave them to me.

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  24. Bet Josh tossed a few ballons in his day.

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  25. Getting squirted by the kids along the parade route was my dog's favorite event. Yes, we need to conserve, but little kids squirting each other, parade goers, and the participants one day a year isn't going to lead us into drought.

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  26. I don't think the Chief was the one who was shot with the water gun, it was one of the other female officers, Too bad it wasn't Lisa....

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  27. Water is Life...The ban is nonsense
    additionally silly is the parade day itself!

    Only in Sierra Madre will one celebrate the 4th of July on the 5th!

    Next Sierra Madre be celebrating Christmas on Halloween!

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  28. Is there actually a reason why the 4th is on the 5th this year? Are we expecting a special guest who couldn't get here on the right day?

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  29. There's probably a statute that says secular holidays can't be celebrated on the sabbath. The Rose Parade is the same isn't it?

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  30. You're a classy stand-up citizen there 4:44!

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  31. Lisa Volpe was the one the tea room owner turned the hose on when she cited him for washing the dog poo off the sidewalk. I haven't been back since the incident - sticks in my mind it does and takes the fun out of the high priced little sandwiches.

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  32. If we can't afford the police now with the existing contract how can we afford more poklice officer staffing for a small sleepy town with low crime and a population under 10,000. Maybe this is about policing the residents not the law-breakers.

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  33. Chief Diaz's Army ---- 31 strong!

    (I think she is planning a putsch.)

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  34. The Rose Parade is "never on a Sunday" because of a long-standing agreement/tradition with all the churches along Colorado boulevard.

    No statute involved, just a "covenant with God" per local legend. Keeps it rain-free except for about 10 times over the last 120 years.

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  35. Maybe it would interfere with the Congregational Church's operations if the parade was held on a Sunday. They are right there on the route.

    Plus they do seem to have quite a lot of influence at City Hall these days.

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  36. I just love how the Tattlers get to the heart of any discussion! You're right 7:04 and 7:08 - I remember the last time the 4th of July Parade was on a Sunday and It was a terrible inconvenience for the SMCC. In fact one of the eldery Congregationalists went to City Council to complain about the fact that he couldn't be dropped at the corner because the street was blocked off. That's it! That's why the 4th of July Parade must be on the 5th of July. Good work all.

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  37. Well, July 5 will be pretty quiet. Party's over, and Elvis has left the building.

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  38. Quacks: Like a duckJuly 2, 2010 at 7:52 PM

    The City of God now rules over us all.

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  39. The tradgety here are the children. They know not what the idiots are concocting for their 4th celebration. 3 Min Mosca, Pontifcate Buchanan,
    and Frick & Frack parade as though they are anointed. They ain't and represent the worst of a dysfunctial democracy. "A non vote will be cast as a yes vote". Wow! Hows that for democracy? Long live Sierra Madre!!

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  40. The Right to ProtestJuly 2, 2010 at 9:34 PM

    What can be more American than signing the protest against the water raise. Look at those brave and dedicated women at Kersting Court standing and bringing attention to the citizens about the water increase.

    More important than a parade, is the water raise. Everyone get your friends to sign the protest, or we will have more problems than a one day 4th of July parade.

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  41. Everyone MUST keep at least 10 NO letters with them at all times. City Hall is betting we don't succeed.

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  42. Older American on this 4th of July weekendJuly 3, 2010 at 8:30 AM

    Jeeze! When I was growing up it was that you couldn't leave the house without putting on clean underwear because you might be in an accident and you didn't want anyone to find out you didn't have on clean underwear. Now I must also keep 10 NO letters with me at all times? What's next? My birth certificate, passport, social security card, driver's license, and a major credit card? It's no wonder women carry those enormous bags!

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  43. Nancy Schollenberger's on vacation in Ireland. Who's watching the protest letters in her absence?

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  44. Sierra Madre MomJuly 3, 2010 at 8:43 AM

    I am so happy to see that others have had the same response as I to this (apparently) terribly necessary wayer ban, special parking signs and all. What a complete mismatch there is between our city officials and this small residential community. Nowhere is it more evident than in our police department. The department members that patrol the streets around the lower school campus each morning, looking for violators of local parking regulations (and for that we are grateful), can't seem to find it in them to smile, say hello, speak with our kids and remind them that a police officer is their friend. What a missed opportunity. The revised 4th of July parade regulations are simply another example of a disconnect between our leadership and the residents who live here.

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  45. WOW! Water deadly in Sierra Madre? What happened to our police department? The good old days are gone, even in ho-di-do Sierra Madre.

    It seems Chief Diaz is handling OUR 4th of July parade like she handled the DOO-DA parade in Pasadena. What a joke.

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  46. A sad state of public affairs when a town as small as ours really is not Mayberry.

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  47. "... there are inherent dangers in water play."

    Yes, you get wet.

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  48. Sierra Madre Mom, Your right on in perception and in fact about our public servants. In order of importance: Pensions, Retirement, Salaries, Benefits, Resumes, Consulting (after retirement), and lawsuits over internal behavior problems command a large part of our their time.
    We the residents are at the tail end of this dog.

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  49. Too much 50s T VJuly 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM

    who the hell wanted it to be " mayberry" in the 1st place 10:09. A bunch of 'hillbillys" thats who !

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  50. Very good point, 11:10. It is almost like we have been invaded by some sort of governmental parasite. One that is far more intersted in taking care of its own needs than ours.

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  51. Skipping the 5th of July paradeJuly 3, 2010 at 4:58 PM

    Only in Sierra Madre do you celebrate the 4th of July on the 5th. Why not delay the parade until August 13th? What an idiot that cowed down to the Cong Church, wow, some old geezer can't get dropped off on the corner? I thought American was supposed to be so Christian?

    Whoever decided that water pistols and a "legal water zone" is what is necessary for Sierra Madre is a bona fide a-hole.

    What's all this "Mayberry" pokey nonsense? For goodness sakes, Sierra Madre is part of Los Angeles county and there are almost 15 million people within a couple hours?

    Myself and my family, we're ignoring the 5th of July parade this year. It's a joke being run by a joke (Mosca's partner).

    The 5th of July parade is a marketing vehicle for real estate agents and politicans. When I want to watch an endless stream of ads on the sides of cars, I'll tune into Nascar.

    Last year the actual "4th" of July parade was totally mismanged. There were large gaps between some participants and some were bunched together like sardines. Boring.

    Celebrate the 5th of July like the rest of America, at home.

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  52. certainly that form is a 5th of July prank.

    did Buchanan write its so he could finally do some real legal work?

    what a bunch of clowns we've got running the parade, our Council and SMPD

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  53. what a great day it will be when Joe Mosca and his boyfriend Matt move out of town.

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  54. I didn't know Sierra Madre has a Doo-Da parade. Hm, just like Pasadena. What a joke, we can't even squirt water on OUR 4th of July parade. Since when did a squirt gun become a crime, let alone water. What up yo!

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  55. Occupation government. They're trying to teach us their ways.

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  56. The whole thing is really a mess. Very sad indeed. first a man wins and 2 other people who seem popular win the election.

    Then, there is a possible 40% water increase.

    Then the SNF begins to change and nothing is done about the BLIGHT law.

    Then the Mayor limits the community to speak only 3 minutes (what, he does not care to listen to those who just voted him in?)

    Then, there is a shut off button installed to shut off the over 3 minute limit at public comment.

    Then, he has to discuss the General Plan, talking us into circles

    It takes forever to introduce the 5 members of the General Plan

    He then gets to the real point: HE wants to add 4 new members.

    He has not agendized this.

    He is not supported by the community. His council is dumfounded, with the exception of Mrs. MacGillivary who keeps reminding everyone it is the people's plan, not the council's plan.

    On to the next meeting on the 6th of July.

    We discover we need a permit to have fun at the parade. No water pistols or water baloons.

    We are all angry about a huge water tax. Squirt guns, balloons and small town fun become a crime.

    What do we expect next from a Mayor who installs buttons, takes the fun out of parades, supports a UUT and a 40% water hike and was against Measure V.

    Was he for the people?

    Can he ever serve the people?

    How long can this go on?

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  57. Joe seems to have an extreme need to control people. Coupled with an unfortunate inability to be a true leader. You can see this at council meetings. If MaryAnn is taking control (basically because she is smarter that Joe), or public comment leads to topics Joe would prefer not be discussed, his anxiety level goes right off the scale. Watching Buchanan talk him off his emotional cliff at the Planning Commission meeting was very telling.

    I really don't think it is much more complex than that. Joe can only work with those who are easily impressed and will buy into his simpleminded concepts. Those who are strong and think for themselves are a threat to his unrealistic opinion of himself as some kind of political leader.

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  58. 5:08 July 3rd...pm.

    I'm with you.
    Joe and boyfriend Matt are invited to take the vile old Harriet Susan Henderson with them.

    3 very bad people.

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  59. The comment at 10:33 is very wise. So many bad things have happened in such a short period of time. You can only wonder what comes next.

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  60. Blogging on the Fourth of JulyJuly 4, 2010 at 10:10 AM

    "I believe the blogosphere first truly gained traction in America for a good reason. There is something about blogging's freedom from the constraints of conventional journalism that captures an American ideal: civic engagement totally free of anyone else's influence. It is an ideal of a fourth estate hostile to authorities public and private, suspicious of conventional wisdom, and, above all, confident, even when confidence seems absurd, in the power of the word and the argument to make a difference ... in the end. The rise of this type of citizen journalism has, in my view, increasingly exposed some of the laziness and corruption in the professional version - even as there is still a huge amount to treasure and value in the legacy media, and a huge amount of partisan, mendacious claptrap on the blogs." Andrew Sullivan, The Dish

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  61. Speaking of partisan, mendacious claptrap, I wonder where Sullivan would put the Looney Views News?

    At the bottom of a birdcage, maybe?

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  62. 5th of July PatriotJuly 4, 2010 at 1:30 PM

    I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy
    born on the 5th of July.
    Susan Henderson's my Yankee Doodle Sweetheart
    I'm her Yankee Doodle Boy.
    Yankee Doodle went to town to ride a float boys,
    I am your Yankee Doodle Boy...

    oey oey oey!

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  63. Such Happy VotersJuly 4, 2010 at 1:47 PM

    Thank you for your Andrew Sullivan Quote. I wonder how Susan will cover the lack of Freedom of speech of our parade and now that her Mayor is riding the wheel of control, will she say there were thousands of people who turned up for the first time? and finally the people showed up in droves to support the new Czar who will take our money and run?

    Yeah for our brilliant, articulate, critical thinking and citizen first fair minded Mayor Mosca. Long Live the King!!

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  64. PROTEST WATER INCREASEJuly 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM

    Remember it is not a VOTE, it is a signature you must sign to PROTEST!!!! If you do not sign the protest, you are saying that you AGREE WITH THE INCREASE!!!

    PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO SIGN THE PROTEST AT KERSTING COURT!!! THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THERE EVERY EVENING!!!

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  65. Susan is paid by the city. She will say anything she is told
    to say. She's just a flunky.

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  66. Remember, Joe got the majority of the votes. It's going to take a long while before those who voted for him realize they did so because he was denied mayorship and he whined and disrupted the council meetings alot. What irony that he constantly interrupted Mayor MaryAnn, but told her at a recent meeting not to interrupt people. Of course who wouldn't vote for someone who completed all of the city's business in four years singlehandedly, without help of city workers, public, and the other councilmen.

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  67. Joe's whining and fussing is pretty much the same as it was before he was crowned. My money is on him having people physically removed from the council chamber before summer is out.

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  68. Joe is a Glen Beck Democrat. He cries and whines and appeals to emotional nonsense. And, twists the truth to his own, and the puppeteers, perceptions.

    Hard to face. Think and compare.....which one is worse. Which fanclub is more easily lead?

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  69. All the 'no water' signs are up downtown. Very -um - festive.

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  70. 4:28 Joe was not elected by a majority of the voters. The majority of the voters did not vote. That is why he is mayor.

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  71. A water rate increase will be bad for Sierra Madre business, too. Cup of coffee, same price? Not likely. Second thoughts on coffee downtown vs home with my own increased water costs. Hum? All restaurant meals, too. What does cost to do a load of laundry? Even if you seldom use the laundromat, increased water rates will burden others in our town. Even a business without food/beverage/water service will have increase costs just to maintain restroom facilities for their workers and clients and their planter boxes. Oh, yes, I almost forgot, the visit to the beauty shop . . .

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  72. how stupid of an idea is it to celebrate the 4th of July on the 5th?

    just to appease a few old geezers at the Cong Church?

    isn't the 5th a work day? so, Matt and Joe Bossy decided that it's advisable to interupt a normal business day, close the downtown for a off holiday day parade?

    very stupid idea

    I've made other plans

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  73. That's right a lot of people do work on Monday. Just shows how out of touch the city and the 4th committee is with the working guy.

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  74. City, County and Federal employees have Monday off, as do many in the private sector. Retail, food service, and other service industry employees most likely do not have Monday off. Happens every time a Federal holiday falls on a Sunday - it's call 4th of July Observed. Them's the breaks Moon.

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  75. I guess that means the decision to move the parade to the 5th was made by government employees and people with corporate gigs. People who are not likely to be either aware or concerned too much about those other people.

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  76. Just got back from downtown. Very very quiet. The only place showing any life at all was the Chamber of Commerce beer and wine cage. $5 a cup, an outhouse, 4 signs telling people what they cannot do, all inside of what looks like a minimum security holding pen. That one of our newly elected City Council members was among the inmates only added to the atmosphere.

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  77. Hey, 5:25--We will have to increase our donations to the Sierra Madre Search and Rescue team, won't we, so they will be able to pay their increased water rate. How is the Pioneer Cemetery, Nature Friends, (other non-profits) going to cope? Pass the collection plate!

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  78. Wonder what sort of a deal Bosse made with the MTA to reroute/hold the buses while Sierra Madre parades... Taylor's opened yesterday on Sunday for limited hours but closed today... we're not going to bother parade watching today; after all of the San Gabriel Valley's festivities yesterday and last night's fireworks at the Rose Bowl it's all anti-climatic... who wants to see Joe Mosca and the Moscateers using up precious fossil fuels. Remember the year your parents let you open your Christmas presents on Christmas eve? Chrismas day was a dismal disappointment, right? Same feeling.

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  79. Rate Payer ProtesterJuly 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM

    Today is July 5th - only 13 days left to turn in your letter of protest or sign a petition. If you are a rate payer don't miss your chance to make your protest of a sneaky attempt to squeeze money out of already beleaguered residents. This underhanded money grab was designed to supplement the "funds" and provide money for the City to use without going to the rate payers for approval on future projects, to the tune of millions of dollars! PROTEST TODAY! Tables will be in Kersting Court; petition walkers will be at Sierra Vista Park. Ask questions! They'll explain!!

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  80. Joe Mosca is the worst "mayor" Sierra Madre ever had.
    When you consider people like Bart(the Titan) Doyle, Glenn(bully) Lambdin and Rob (questionable loan to Dorn Platz) Stockley, Doug (the gigolo) Hayes/Nelson, John (green windbag) Buchanan, he still stands out as the worst ever.

    The parade has been tarnished by Joe and Matt.
    I recall Councilman Don Watts riding in the parade with a squirt gun rifle. Don liked to have FUN, the kids loved it!
    I miss Don, how could you voters have not re-elected one of your few friends on the city council? Now you just have Mayor MaryAnn MacGillivray to represent your interests.

    Sign a water petition today, it may help right the wrong we now have in Sierra Madre.

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  81. If you are a renter and can contact your landlord regarding the water bill, remind him/her that a protest letter for each meter, i.e. each water bill, is what needs to be sent in. This process is most cumbersome.

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  82. Water rate hike will be felt in the cost of a jar of marmelade from E. Waldo Ward.

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  83. What happened to the 21 homes that were going to be built at #1 Carter?? The new sign now has 28 home sites. With all the mandatory water rationing it seems to me the City Council should enact a moratorium on new construction water meters until this current water crisis is over.
    I am sure these new homes will be landscaped with water loving shrubs and grass----not to mention their swimming pools or hot tubs!
    Why should the burden of rationing be put on the backs of current Sierra Madre residents.
    IF CAMBRIA CAN DO IT, SO CAN SIERRA MADRE!

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  84. It was never 21, it was many more and finally 28 was agreed to. The Hillside Zoning Ordinance and the Planning Commission are limiting landscaping materials at Stonegate. I'm thinking it would be good if all pools and hot tubs were immediately emptied as a response to drought conditions, including the City pool. Water rationing is "on the backs of current Sierra Madre residents" because it's hard to compel former residents to pay their fair share.

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  85. But Cambria's water restrictions are due to the COUNTY's restriction of growth to 1.2%, done via limits to meter availability.

    SCAG is running in completely the opposite direction for some unfathomable reason. Besides the money, I mean.

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  86. already pay a lotJuly 5, 2010 at 2:31 PM

    A rate increase is ok. We need to make repairs of an aging infrastructure.
    BUT NOT THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE AND NOT IN THE SNEAKY AND CYNICAL WAY OF PROP 218.
    City Hall keeps making bad choices.

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  87. Didn't Pasadena recently raise their rates 3% in order to keep in line with LAMWD? This would be a very modest approach to realities of a needed increase. This enormous increase from 15% with a soon to be received water bill to 40% by 2015 is hideous!

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  88. I skipped the parade today.

    Did any kids get arrested for viloating the water toy ban?

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  89. Class act you are 8:59! Nothing like a little caustic name calling to get your day started. Hope you had a great day.

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  90. The Water Rate increase is ambiguous at best. "Polluted Aquifirs, Tainted Wells, Rusty Pipes" are all that are mentioned to justify the rate increase. No details, no cost estimates.

    There should have been a detailed presentation that identified the needs, timetable, costs for each required update and improvement. Instead we are given Bruce Inman's and our City Mgr.'s assurance that we need to "improve our water infrastructure. And a mumbo jumbo "meter size, tiered structure, and guesswork for a 10% leading to a 40% or perhaps a 75% increase over the next 5 years not to mention the smoke and mirrors prop 218 magic.

    This is pure skulldruggery and a cynical attempt to bypass reasonable analysis for a small rate increase. Shame on our City Administration and the Gang of 4. WHAT DO THEY REALLY HAVE IN MIND? And how dumb do they think we are?

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  91. 9:24 Very well put! Obviously the "confering City Administrations" have pushed their manipulative envelopes to achieve what ends?
    The line runs: Corp campaign gifts, Lobiest dictated laws, Complient Legislators, Regional Associations to implement, and County and City Administrations, Supervisors, and Councils that do as they are expected. The Buchanans, Moscas, Morans, and Walshes are enough to make you sick. When will we get a representative Council?

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