Saturday, October 30, 2010

Join GovLoop.com to Tell America "Government Doesn't Suck!"

If you are a John Stewart or Stephen Colbert fan you know all about their "Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear" today in our nation's capitol. It is going right now as we type, I believe.

This is the second shoe to drop in the war between the cable infotainment networks as they attempt to seize the imagination of the American people and exercise some influence on Tuesday's elections.

That it has all come to this is an entirely different subject, one that I doubt I have have the strength (or desire) to tackle. We generally do local politics on this site. You know, where we discuss the awful policies of those running this city, and they squawk about their victimhood. The last refuge of a scoundrel these days being political correctness, I guess. And it beats their having to actually discuss real issues. Which, I suppose, makes this blog a kind of a foil.

Oh, and I hear they will be trotting out a new message soon. Goes something like, "We're nice, so give us your money and stop asking so many questions."

Sorry, I got distracted. There is another rally going on in Washington DC today, and I thought I should point it out to you. It is called "Government Doesn't Suck," and it is a reply to last year's "Government Sucks" rally that also took place in Washington. Using the attention being given to the Stewart/Colbert rally as a way of bringing focus to their cause, an organization called GovLoop.com hopes to put a human face to the widely accepted image of the lazy and incompetent bureaucrat.

Here is how the event is described on the GovLoop.com Facebook page, a site that boasts of a membership of 35,000 government employees.

A lot of people say that government sucks. Living in DC, you're in the eye of the storm. With anti-government sentiments at record highs, we feel your pain. We know, you don't suck, you know you don't suck, so let's let the world in on this little secret.

GovLoop is getting together to put a human face on governmental bureaucracy, to show the country that you're capable of having a laugh. We'll be raising awareness for the importance of government activities by attending the Rally to Restore Sanity on Oct. 30 at 10:30 am and showing our support fro (sic) Gov't (sic) workers with signs and t-shirts.

And seeing as to how this is a GovLoop event, feel free to take pictures, video and engage in discussions that will hit the web!

There will be t-shirts, signs, reasonable indignation and, most importantly, a platform for us to rally around the mantra that "Government Doesn't Suck."

We certainly live in wild times, do we not?

There is a Christian Science Monitor piece on this pre-event to the Stewart/Colbert shindig, and the venerable news organization discussed this affair with the founder and president of GovLoop.com, Steve Ressler.

"People hate government," says Ressler. But he says the troops have been called out to march Saturday to put a human face on the institution. They've come to town to push back against the apparently widely-held assumption that, "we are all incompetent, lazy and overpaid," he says.

But is a gathering of the super hip, super ironic fan crowd that stays up from 11 p.m. to midnight - past the bedtime of most government workers - to watch Colbert and Stewart skewer every government worker in town, really the best place to make this case?

Yes, says Ressler. Because this is a largely young demographic and, he maintains, "the very ones whose attitudes we hope to change." Public service, he says, is noble, meaningful work, and not all that long ago it used to be "the goal of the best and brightest."

Good luck with that.

52 comments:

  1. There is way too much government control in Washington DC, in our State Capital, in Los Angeles County and in Sierra Madre.

    And......that SUCKS!

    Yes on 23.

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  2. Government doesn't suck. it's worse than that.

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  3. We've seen the face of gov't up close, and it ain't pretty.

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  4. This is a democracy. We are the Government. Lincoln said it best--of the people, by the people, for the people (probably in a different order--I forget). And it became the Three People Policy of the anti-communist Chinese. If you don't vote--shut up. If you don't show up--shut up. If you just blame the government--shut up. They count on you to not vote, not show up, and to blame, blame, blame.

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  5. I've always thought the downside of voting is that if your candidate wins, you then share the responsibility for all their screw ups. Which is why I play it safe and always vote third party.

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  6. Please reread the comments of 9:34 and 9:44, and SHOW UP at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday, November 9, and let John Buchanan, et al, know that there are more than the ten people who regularly attend, and that we do care what they do and how they spend OUR money...especially if you voted for the Gang of 4.

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  7. I think a lot of the animosity between government employees and those who work in the private sector has to do with the wretched state of the economy. While government employees work in relative security with great benefits and retirement packages, many of those whose taxes go towards keeping these govt people in clover do not make so much, have lousy health insurance, and will most likely work until they die. That is, if they can get it. I think a lot of the tension comes from the growing realization that govt employees have it much better these days, which leads to people asking if they really are worth it.

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  8. Yes, 9:49!
    Spend all our money they will, and you posters are all correct. This current regime counts on us all being lazy, complacent and uninformed.
    Tattlers have no excuses, none. We are informed.
    Please follow the advice of poster at 9:49. Show up and show the regime, we are not going to allow the misuse of our tax dollars.

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  9. http://www.thedailyshow.com/

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  10. Ozzy Osbourbe vs. Yusuf (Cat Stevens). Pretty funny.

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  11. Yes indeed.
    "the war between the cable infotainment networks as they attempt to seize the imagination of the American people and exercise some influence on Tuesday's elections"
    Scary times.
    But thank goodness there's somebody to respond to Rupert.

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  12. Juan Williams, commentator, from Public Radio was fired for his inane remark about 'people in Islamic dress' cause him some fear (I paraphrase) when he is on an airline. This stupidity was exposed by a letter to the editor from the LA Times who said: there is no "Islamic" dress, people of Muslim faith dress differently from country to country so if you want to fear terrorist dress--watch out for folks in t-shirts, jeans and tennis shoes because that was how the 9/11 hijackers were dressed. Democracy depends on informed participants. Not reactionaries. Juan Williams is now on Fox News at a pretty nice salary giving reactionaries more misinformation to react to. Educate yourself, take the time that it takes to get the information. Learn. Then Vote!

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  13. The Fallacy of CeremonyOctober 30, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    There is no sense in playing a rigged game. You have to change the game. We have philosophers, and lawyers, poets, wits, commedians, and a huge majority of decent people, what we need is a leader who can organize a block of 30-50 people to come to the council meetings as a unit. If no one can organize a visible resistence, buchanan wins. I am neither a leader nor a martyr. The cc-1 doesn't ignore individuals because they are wrong, it ignores them because ceremony trumps logic. You speak, they thank you, and ignore you. The ceremony can only be changed by the presence of an organized mob, not a slow parade of martyrs.

    If this sentiment angers anyone, I apologize, and go ahead, call me names, or ignore me, but your individual anger will serve no constructive purpose. I voted against the cc-1, against the uut, for measure v, therefore the cc-1 will not listen to me, but I think a small mob would get their attention.

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  14. The CC-1 did not and has not ignored the 1700 plus water rate protestors. They are scared s***less. Otherwise the rate increase would have appeared on the October 1st water bills as originally promised. They're just trying to make them go away.

    Power to the People!!

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  15. Interestingly, Sir Eric I have seen the similarities of our little town and the many politicians in the USA for a long time. We are just a microcosism. There are plain and simply un-educated and self-serving politicians in the USA just like our G4, and people just like Mary Ann who truly care about the people. What is galling is there are more G4 politicians than we care to admit, and they get the money from the BIG CORPORATIONS AND AIR TIME THAN THE PEOPLE LIKE MARY ANN WHO DO NOT GET ANY MONEY OR AIR TIME AND DESERVE IT.

    Joe, John, Enid, Tonya, Stockley,Inman are so very like Backman, Sharron Engel, John Ensign, Mark Sandford, Christine O'Donnell are all alike as their twisting and turning of the truth and self centered greed has created Americans who truly believe that these people are leaders who CARE about them, but in actuality are illiterate, closed-minded, hypocrites, and have no morals,no culture, NO understanding of our government, foreign diplomacy and do not care to listen to the public.

    The lack of sensitivity for others is appalling, and the pretense is disgusting. Our G4 pretense of high moral standards and Vitter's, O'Donnels, Engel's pretense of high moral standards is all the same. "I am better than you are, so I will do what I want. "It does not matter what you say or do." We see smug here, we see smug all over the nation.

    What is worse, when they talk about cutting government spending they are talking about taking from YOU, and when our CC talks about BONDS they are talking about taking from YOU.

    Comedy always makes us listen differently. ONly comedy is the flip side of tragedy. My family was republican. Very different type of republicans. Not the judgemental my way or the high way.

    All of us are patriots. Just because we do not agree with the Tea Party does not make us a non
    American. Just because we do not agree with the G4 does not make us a non American.

    I still want to know what Sarah Palin reads/what Joe reads, they both say nothing and create fear/say nothing and have fans? Reading is a sign of a well informed and stimulated, educated mind.I still want to know why she has never said anything to all the parents of Down Syndrome Children. She could be the perfect spoksperson to raise awareness and create more intervention in schools. She could be doing wonderful things to support the children, parents and teachers. That is the most dissappointing aspect of her. She has never addressed that and she could. Everything else she just is folksy and never gets to the point unless it is an attack. No solutions. Joe and John blabble and attack speakers and never give us a solution. They are folksy and make no sense. FRUSTRATION!

    It is time we at the Tattler compare and contrast one teeny town to one huge country. It is in the palm of our hands. We are all in it together.

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  16. If a mob showed up at Council meetings, Moran would think they came as silent support and Walsh would think they came to dance. Bucannan and Mosca would think they came to be ignored. Mary Ann would know why they were there and try to push the rock uphill. Go for it Mary Ann!

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  17. I agree with 10:13. Government employees have taken so many benefits that they are breaking the system.

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  19. That last comment sounds rather threatening. Full Stop!

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  20. Fallacy of Ceremony: you are right. They had their minds made up before they were elected. They all knew they were going to ignore us.

    They care about themselves.

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  21. Great post 10:41, but Sierra Madre has taught me that you have to be willing to put your ideas into action. If you want something to happen, you are the leader who does it - or it won't happen.
    Experience has also taught that people truly hate going to council meetings so much, you have to pick your battles. You might get 50 people there one night (and you have to do the calling, the knocking on doors, the grabbing friends and making them promise) but they will not show up without a big effort, and they take long breaks in between.

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  22. Rock uphill pushing is what it has always been about. Guess what, both sides think they have the righteous rock. But, Mr or Ms Fallacy--remember Ghandi: the world can keep up with need, the world cannot keep up with GREED; and Margaret Meed: nerver underestimate the power of a small group of people to change the world-indeed it is the only thing that ever has.

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  23. Vitter-Republican senatorial candidate against Melancon has posted a vicious, racest anti-Melancon ad--maybe you can find it on YouTube. I sent Melancon a donation.

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  24. 10:52, we slowed them down, that's for sure. We'll have to see what they're cooking up for the next meeting.
    We have Nancy Walsh's "I don't care what the percentages are" as a preview.

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  25. It is almost like we have an occupation government. Nothing that this city council wants to do in any way reflects what the community wants. They seem focused on an agenda that has more to do with corporations than the people.

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  26. Because a majority of registered voters do not vote, no one can prove that they are the majority.
    However, it seems logical to assume that most people live here because they like a small town.

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  27. Not a whole lot of voters in Bell, either. Most of those that
    voted did so because they had a financial stake in the outcome.
    Probably what happened here as well.

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  28. Sierra Madre looks so little and peaceful, so low key, that most people take it for granted. They have no idea of the efforts that have gone into keeping it this way. Maybe The tattler will turn into a collection of articles that cover the real history of SM.

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  29. Article up on Yahoo put the crowd at the Stewart-Colbert rally
    at 60,000.

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  30. Never give in or give upOctober 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM

    Maybe why people are so turned off by government is that many of us grew up in an era when it really seemed like you "could not fight city hall." Also, the little guy always seemed to lose--old cowboy TV movies with the big ranch owner lording it over the town. Being mad at city hall from the comfort of your easy chair in front of the TV has to stop. During the early days of hillside open space protection Verna Chilton and Caroline Brown were told to just let the city council take care of things. Do you think they did that? Not only no, hell no. They did the research and gave it to the city council, work that the city administrator was too lazy to do. For Pete's sake--don't sit home.

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  31. Too bad they couldn't do anything to stop the hillsides development. I wouldn't use that as an example of success against city hall. Protecting the downtown worked. The hillsides, no.

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  32. The Rally to restore sanity/fear was interesting, and it ended with Jon Stewart doing a rabbi like speech - which is a nice counter balance to Glen Beck and his Mormon elder speeches.
    I'll go with the rabbi on that one.

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  33. 12:40 pm, what would have stopped hillside development was if the city and residents bought the property back when it was for sale for a million or so. Residents did yeoman duty precluding an academic nightmare with hundreds of students, staff, and administrators traveling Baldwin daily to the detriment of the town. So to say "too bad they couldn't do anything" is incorrect. At worst is 28 houses on a site that could have been populated by hundreds every day. Apologize to the hard workers who did their best. Next time perhaps you should jump in the fray and help.

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  34. 12:53, and why do you assume that I didn't?

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  35. I wasn't here then but I heard a rumor that the whole high school thing was a set up to get the housing development through.

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  36. Because, 12:55 pm, if you had you would be praising the people who managed to stop the atrocity that was planned. Actually, if you compare the reduced 1 Carter development from what was originally designed by Galletly, or the plan of the crazy headmistress at Maranatha who was chatting with God, to the slow creep of the DSP into the current downtown, you'd see more clearly the success that occurred in facing down Galletly and the development faction. Slow creep of the DSP? I refer you back to the original DSP that was almost passed. Sure we've been successful in stopping three and four story development, but if you read the DSP you'll soon see the direction that the CC-1 has taken with bump-outs and greenery, talk of parking lots, facade renovations, and the CRA Montecito development that'll be happening very soon. The fight is never done and we must remain vigilant against over development - like the immense water bond debt and the $17 million SGVMWD pipe. It's no longer brought to us as a specific plan, but onesie twosie projects over a couple of City Councils, over a couple of years.

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  37. Are they ever going to build something up there, or just keep pushing dirt around. One good old time El Nino rainstorm would probably send any potential home building families scampering back into the deepest valley.

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  38. Galletly and Onyx Construction couldn't lose: they were going to build the school if that didn't work, they were going to build the houses, and if neither of those worked, they were going to build out the Congregational Church. Actually, members of the Congregational Church were instrumental in fighting Maranatha - some said because it would conflict with their mega church plans for Sierra Madre Blvd, because they knew the town would never go for two such large institutions in town. Remember SMCC and Maranatha wouldn't have paid property taxes.

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  39. Bottom line? The residents who put up such a gallant fight to stop Maranatha, to downsize 1 Carter, and to stop the Sierra Madre Congregational Church won the battle with Galletly. He's gone! He declared bankruptcy. He lost 1 Carter. He lost Stonehouse.

    You can't always stop the project but you can make it cost so much to build developers lose their incentive for a quick profit.

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  40. Galletly is gone and so are those acres of hillside...

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  41. just saying said @ 12:40---you were not paying attention or not around at the time to see what was done early on when there were intelligent responses from an earlier city council configuration--a 4 home subdivision was reduced to 2 and then to 0 when the land was purchased for open space; a 35 home subdivision was reduced to 8 and and then to 0, also purchsed for open space; a four home subdivision, reduced to 3 and then to 0 also purchased for open space. There was a plan to build condos and homes and a hillside restaurant on 1 Carter but the access for the condos was a 13 acre plot to the east at Mt. Wilson Trail that was purchased for open space closing off that plan forever as that was access to 40 acres of theupper area of 1 Carter was purchased for open space; 4 acres to the immediate west of 1 Carter was protected by purchase for open space which would have been access to the west ridge. Yes, the west ridge is now graded and ready for hideous houses but that is the work of the Doyle council. Don't forget, the last gasp to try to protect more of 1 Carter was accomplished by MaryAnn MacGillivray when she got lot 3 of one Carter left as open space. A lot of good work was done and that does make the loss of more at 1 Carter and Stonehouse all the more galling and laid right at the feet of Doyle's council.

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  42. Joe and John want to do the same to the rest of the town that the "A-Hole Council" of 2004 did to One Carter. Why do you think they brought in those 2 attorneys to sit on the General Plan Committee? All about land use and 23,000 Sierra Madre residents.

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  43. Since we are so much better informed and have the success of Yes on Measure V and the real win (inspite of the dismissal of some signatures) on the water protest, why don't you think that we can beat them again? Don't dwell on the upwards to 23,000 that they predict--dwell on the 11,000 +/- that are here now and get them active, including yourself!

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  44. Have you ever looked at the Buchanan- Agajanian
    Connection? Buchanan lists Agajanian as an endorser. Have you looked at the Agajanian & Antonovitch connections?

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  45. The contention about the hillside developments shows me how important it is that we work together, despite the tensions. But a lot of theTattler posters who say "get involved" are really preaching to the choir.

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  46. La! La! La! La! La!

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  47. MANFACTURING CONSENTOctober 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM

    WOW, great comments. A lot to think about. Vitter is defending BP!! Haliburton=Cheney. Joe and John=SC Gas.....hmmmm no big corporations involved there. Ya think any deals made?

    AGENDA? Their own. What is wrong with the voters:

    susan henderson/Glen beck. reactionaries spewing mis information. educated journalists?
    LIARS!!!!!!!

    Too many corporations behind tooo many "politicians" who run for office pretending to care. OH let's get gov and news to swim in the same pool.........

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  48. Our weekly newspapers seem to believe that their role is to reprint press releases and kiss a lot of city hall fanny. Going to a palm reader would get you a more accurate picture of what is going on around here.

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  49. still read the papers, but not that oneOctober 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    The only time I see the Looney News is when I go into city hall. Makes sense.
    That's the only place that counts to Henderson. A working con knows the what the mark needs.

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  50. Notice how there are always pictures of at least one city staffer in every issue?

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  51. Many diverse comments today. Interesting reading. Thanks John.

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  52. A bird in the hand is much better than two bushes in the white houseOctober 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM

    Screw GovLoop and the pale horse they rode in on. A Facebook for Federal workers? Federal contractors, Department of Homeland Security? It is supposed to be home of the free land of the brave, not homeland, from wiki:
    A homeland (rel. country of origin and native land) is the concept of the place (cultural geography) to which an ethnic group holds a long history and a deep cultural association with —the country in which a particular national identity began. As a common noun, it simply connotes the country of one's origin. When used as a proper noun, the word, as well as its cognates in other languages (i.e. Heimatland in German) often have ethnic nationalist connotations: So what did little dubya have in mind with his homeland crappe.

    Just like the Patriot act, does not mean patriot but is a twisted deception from wiki:

    The title of the Act is a contrived acronym, which stands for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.
    Not to mention congress had less than 24 hours to review it and sign it, just like the closed session of congress, where they treatened martial law unless the bailout was signed.

    Government itself as in self governing is true, but I am a constitutionalist and a faith child of god, whatever entity is there now or has been since Nov 22, 1963 ain't. I don't care how many dog and pony show dancers, prancers and pretenders they present as government.

    Editor's note: this post has been edited for the family hour.

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