Friday, November 19, 2010

The City Council Should Not Be Allowed To Steal Our Prop 218 Rights

I never have any idea who is tuning in to The Tattler at any given moment. There is just no way that I can track that sort of thing. The system I use (Blogger - owned by Google) is fairly basic, and while the "stats" function will tell me all about the quantity of folks tuning in, they say absolutely nothing about who it is that is doing all that tuning.

I can tell you this, however. When I posted yesterday the original title of the article was "Questions for Our Readers," or something like that. And far fewer people than usual checked in. But when I changed the name of the article around 8 AM to something about closing Sierra Madre's Post Office, the hit count went through the roof. We ended up with around 1,200 "page views" for the day, which is a bit better than average.

Anyway, enough on my statistics fixation. It's Friday, and there are a couple of things I really should follow up on. Here is one of them:

Bill Coburn's Other Incorrect Assumption

Earlier this week we discussed Bill's rather unfortunate conclusion in his recent editorial regarding the Water Rate Hike. Particularly on City Hall's refusal to discuss (or even acknowledge) the Water Bond Debt when they sent out their legally required notification on why they were doing so. This drew a few pointed reader comments, and none better than this one:

I commend to you the recent editorial written by Bill Coburn for no other reason than he finally concedes that MaryAnn MacGillivray was right.

That having been said, Coburn makes a statement in his editorial that needs to be more closely analyzed and then dismissed. Coburn writes:

"Further, the Council had an opportunity to quiet some of the critics (and there are many) that claim the Council/City Staff had misled the ratepayers by 'hiding' the water bond debt that most of the rate increase is intended to cover. Now I have to kind of disagree with that, because these bonds have been around since 1998 and 2003, and they are addressed in the annual budget."

First, I disagree with Coburn's suggestion that the ratepayers were aware of the bonds because they are addressed in the City's budget. Really Bill, how many ratepayers actually read the City's budget each year? Do you, Bill?

But let's humor Bill and assume that most of the ratepayers obtain and read the budget and were/are aware of the bonds. As so eloquently explained by our former Mayor Kurt Zimmerman in his speech before the Council, Proposition 218 requires the City to give every ratepayer including Bill's minority (purportedly unfamiliar with the bonds) written notice of the reasons for the rate increase.

This poster is definitely on to something. And here is the passage from Coburn's editorial that I believe seals the deal.

Now I recognize that there is a possibility that the protesters might have been able to generate enough letters of protest that the increase as proposed by MacGillivray might have failed. However, since a large number of the protesters have tremendous faith in MacGillivray and consider her to be a Council member they can trust when they lack that trust with other members, the fact that it was her proposing it and trying to get it passed would have eliminated many of those protests.

I'm not sure that Mr. Coburn completely understood what was going on that night. In my opinion a water rate hike would be an unfortunate thing, especially now that we know it is being done to make up for a shortfall in repaying old bond debt. Is it inevitable that we will have to endure some sort of rate increase? Perhaps. But by trying to whistle past this metaphorical graveyard on the Water Bond Rate and its real role in the financial problems at our Water Department, the perception has become far worse.

But also, in my mind at least, the Proposition 218 issue looms just as large. Because by claiming that they have the right to decide whether or not we should have use of it as laid down in the California State Constitution, Sierra Madre's City Council is attempting to deny us a basic guaranteed freedom. And in my opinion basing this on some very vulnerable rationales. This is hardly the side issue Bill makes it out to be.

Look at it this way, who do Joe Mosca or John Buchanan think they are in believing that they can take away our right to protest the levying of what is basically a tax increase? Who up and gave them that kind of power? If they want to raise our water rates, then as elected officials in this City they have the right to at least try. But to then turn around and say that we, as the people who will have to pay the cost of that rate hike, do not have any right to question their decision to go forward with this levy, and only on their assurance that this is so, is an outrage.

I think our Prop 218 right to protest the levying of taxes by government is something worth fighting for. Freedom always is. Even if it means hiring lawyers and dragging these people into Court. Which, should they decide to play God on the issue of basic rights here in Sierra Madre, I will do all that I can to make sure happens.

Another complaint about Patch reporting:

I received the following late Wednesday:

I was at the Tree Commission meeting tonight and one of the commissioners had seen the article on the Patch that gave the impression that there had been an interview with me about the Golden Spotted Oak Borer. I told her that I did not give an interview. Mr. Inman asked (after he had helped initiate the connection), "You didn't contact her?" I said I did call her but I told her that it would be best for her to go on line and look up the particulars and possibly reach out to the UC Riverside researchers. I did not give her any information at all.

In her on-line article I am mentioned 3 times as a member of the Tree Advisory Commission and that I gave a report to the Tree Commission "last Wednesday." There is no mention of this in the minutes of the Tree Commission October meeting. I did, however, make a comment at Community Communications at the City Council meeting at which Mayor Mosca asked me to get information to the city regarding a suggestion I made that we need to be proactive in helping curtail the movement of firewood as was recommended by the UC Riverside researcher that I heard speak at an Oak Tree Conference at Cal Tech. I was contacted by the Department of Public Works so that information could be on the Tree Commission agenda in November.

All in all this was very dishonest reporting. Ms. Gillis should have presented the information that she gleaned off the internet as such, without all the cozy and false journalistic style as to having had "a conversation" with me. The information about the Golden Spotted Oak Borer is factual. No reference to a local Tree Advisory Commissioner was needed at all. - Caroline Brown

Last Night's Planning Commission Meeting

It appears that a large developer known as the Dexter Corporation (click here) took it on the chin at the big meeting last night. More on that tomorrow.

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54 comments:

  1. It seems as though Mr. Coburn fancies himself the actor Yul Brenner in a re-make and hairless version of Citizen Kane when in the dialogue Mr. Kane says, "The people will think what I want them to think."

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  2. Things must be pretty desperate on the Gang of 4 side when they need to have one of their foghorns talking about MaryAnn being right. Especially when you consider the vicious lies he peddled about her during the last two elections.

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  3. I think, Rosebud, it's not Mr. Coburn's voice you're hearing but the a capella chorus of Buchanan and Mosca. "They WILL think what WE want them to think."

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  4. Punctuate your comments with your walletNovember 19, 2010 at 8:00 AM

    I just want to make a point - I don't want to be felt up or irradiated just to get o a plane that the engines might fall off of. There's no place I need to go that I can't drive. You won't catch me at the airport this holiday season or maybe ever again.

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  5. The poor Patchers. They have to come up with lots and lots of articles to validate the WE'RE LOCAL! corporate AOL stuff. Must be hard to get enough, so it's understandable that they play it fast & loose with "interviews" and making sure people know that they are talking with a reporter.

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  6. Dont worry:8:00, there ant no airport in sierra madre,lessen its behined the dam.

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  7. Nothing is more pitiful than cribbing information off websites and then dropping the names of important people in town to make it seem like your work is actually the result of having spoken with them.

    Sad, very sad.

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  8. read blogs but not that oneNovember 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM

    AOL ought to fire the marketing dunce leading the Patchers.

    Take a look at the main site,
    www.Patch.com

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  9. Patchers? Pasters.

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  10. It follows that college students who write their thesis by cutting and pasting off the internet would grow up to be reporters cutting and pasting and plagerizing to write their stories.

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  11. Dexter Real Estate Corporation: Secretary of State, exact, but there are lots of sub dexters,

    Entity Name: DEXTER REAL ESTATE CORPORATION
    Entity Number: C3033590
    Date Filed: 01/24/2008
    Status: ACTIVE
    Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
    Entity Address: 2409 ALBERT WAY
    Entity City, State, Zip: ARCADIA CA 91007
    Agent for Service of Process: CHARLES HUANG
    Agent Address: 2409 ALBERT WAY
    Agent City, State, Zip: ARCADIA CA 91007

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  12. AOL only exists now because of the money they got from Time Warner to get them to leave. They're now spending it on stuff like Patch, which means they don't know what they're doing with all that found cash. Once it becomes obvious that the local advertising model isn't going to happen for them, start looking for Captain Morgan and energy drink ads to start appearing all across the 500 site "Patchosphere."

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  13. Thanks 8:31. So it is a flipper. It's been very confusing to try and figure out just who the actual applicant is for the Camillo maximansion. The architect, a soils expert, of course a lawyer, somebody who talked about his family. I don't think we have any say about who buys and builds in the hillsides. But we do have a say about what they build.

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  14. The mistakes the Patch writers are making may actually be innocent so far.
    Youthful exuberance, working for the man, meeting deadlines with a can of Jolt.
    But there can be, probably already are, some bad consequences from that getting and using information that they do not have permission for.

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  15. I think we now know the context in which the "owner" uses the phrase "our family" - it should be translated as "the families for which our houses are built". This outfit isn't building a home in which those before the PC are going to live. They're building a home in which the occupants will have nothing in common with the neighbors or the community. Just another example of development on our hillsides.

    Let's hope when they appeal to the City Council the Mosca Council doesn't try to identify with the applicant.

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  16. The only Huang with the state bar is the one I will list below, but even though he is listed as agent for process of service does not mean he may not be the president of Dexter.

    Charles Yi-Fong Huang - #219289
    Bar Number 219289
    Address Office of the District Attorney
    70 W Hedding St
    San Jose, CA 95110 Phone Number (408) 792-2636
    Fax Number (408) 998-1540
    e-mail ptfctlfcw@sycmh.orgisjaei@mpyukhet.govbrnw@epajka.govrqruwai@dycjr.orgetens@sapcqiyw.edumuapkcbn@notrheqw.nettwtr@gic.comchuang@da.sccgov.orgkaku@nweqb.netjtfi@wpkhlhqc.orgcsjgfsi@bajehcog.orgsrne@obisml.edulqrcwkss@aoerho.govdpwbh@lggm.eduruyjkpp@mmcc.educwsl@twr.edujyonqa@hblu.comqakoidmth@sobmwkhg.edubbgqyh@jnlpdtw.orgtsjmferf@bwyib.net
    District District 3 Undergraduate School Univ of California Davis; Davis CA
    County Santa Clara Law School Illinois IT Chicago-Kent COL; Chicago IL
    Sections None

    Status History
    Effective Date Status Change
    Present Active
    5/28/2002 Admitted to The State Bar of California

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  17. Coburn, like the majority of the council, is far too cavalier about the number of protest letters that were sent to city hall. That was a big, big turn-out, requiring not just the efforts of the dedicated few, but a real reaction from disgruntled residents. Any suggestion MacGillivray made, began with "Start the 218 process again."

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  18. Good point, 8:59! The City could only turn out 200 people for their "water walks." The water rate protesters handed in almost 2,000 signed protests. Who the hell are they to criticize?

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  19. I'll donate to the legal war chest Sir Eric.

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  20. It is true to form that Buchanan handily dispenses with the rights of the citizens.
    This is the guy who ignored informed and passionate discourse from residents about hillside preservation.
    The guy who defended the worst smut that has ever been in the town's public arena
    The guy who despite what comes out of his mouth, makes pro-development decisions every time.

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  21. Only one Charles Huang as a licensed real estate broker with CA

    License information taken from records of the Department of Real Estate on 11/19/2010 8:57:57 AM
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    License Type:
    BROKER


    Name:
    Huang, Charles C J


    Mailing Address:
    18082 CROSSHAVEN DR
    ROWLAND HEIGHTS, CA 91748


    License ID:
    00835006


    Expiration Date:
    03/07/13


    License Status:
    LICENSED


    Broker License Issued:

    There was a secondary license he was connected with
    Affiliated Licensed Corporation(s):
    00888676 - Officer Expiration Date: 09/27/93
    Lee Wayne Company Incorporated
    EXPIRED AS OF 09/28/93

    As you can see we are dealing with two Huangs different initials.

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  22. If this slow witted council had followed MaryAnne's suggestion, and initiated a new 218 round, with everyone now aware of the REAL situation, and the need for the money - I bet the outcome would be different.
    Wish we could sue the jerks who got us unto this in the first place.

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  23. Once burned, twice cautiousNovember 19, 2010 at 9:13 AM

    Neither of whom seem to be the right Huang, 9:09. You shouldn't post info that leads away from the subject until you've made a few more inquiries.

    You're good, but you're also a source of disinformation at times.

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  24. I agree with 9:13, but that is the Moderator's decision.
    The website for the Dexter Corporation has the Camillo house on it.

    9:09 your research may be put to better use: someone brought up - is there any relationship between Dexter Camillo LLC (Huang or no Huang), Robert Ho Long Dragon, and Capital Source? We know Ho was hired by Capital Source, but how about Dexter Corp. Same person who brought that up said Capital Source was at the meeting last night.

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  25. Hey all you "local media papers"?
    Stick to your BS interviews with the Gang of 4 (authoritarian) and stop making up "interviews" with real authorities such as Caroline Brown!
    Caroline has too much important work (for the people of Sierra Madre) than to have to take her time to correct your "unfortunate errors".

    Post an apology or I'll never read your paper or website again! Oh wait.....I don't read it anyway, LOL.

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  26. All the homes on the Dexter Corp website look exactly the same.

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  27. 9:13 Right now I am looking at State of California Records for architects. On the verify licensed architects site there are 18 Huangs no Charles. Lots of Possibles, I am not posting disinformation unless you are accusing the CA State Bar, or The California Real Estate licensing office, or the Calfornia Secretary of State office. Now any of you can use these tools, One thing I should point out. Often not always but very often an asian name will be anglicized. For instance there is a Moy that became Robert Louis. So, if any tatts want to they can search California Architects License,
    at the site there will be a verify license, someone mentioned he was an architect, right?

    I tried Charles Huang exactly, no match so when I put in the last name of Huang, you will see matches in Rowland Heights San Marino San Gabriel, Arcadia, close to Charles but with the chinese names. Skiptracing is a puzzle, you will see I will use the words exact or possible. I don't mean to upset you, this is public record information, if the Dexter Web Site had any good honest this is us information it would not be necessary to look. But it does not does it? The editor can delete anything he wants but thanks for your opinion. Please Tatts
    your Dexter guy may be an architect but he is not licensed under that name. Go to the site, CA Architects, verify license and see the similarities yourself

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  28. Let's see the developer appeal to the City Council. We will see if the CC backs up the HMZ and it will be very telling for what gets built at 1 Carter and how the negioations go for Stonehouse. Will the CC actually show their hand and side with the mega developer and his family? General Plan Steering Committee pay close attendtion to the CC if this is appeals as it may tell you the truth about the CC and their development agenda.

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  29. Dexter camillo llc No match under real estate lic, but exact match secretary of state

    Data is updated weekly and is current as of Friday, November 12, 2010. It is not a complete or certified record of the entity.

    Entity Name: DEXTER CAMILLO, LLC
    Entity Number: 201006310067
    Date Filed: 03/03/2010
    Status: ACTIVE
    Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
    Entity Address: 11819 GOLDRING RD UNIT C
    Entity City, State, Zip: ARCADIA CA 91006
    Agent for Service of Process: CHARLES HUANG
    Agent Address: 11819 GOLDRING RD UNIT C
    Agent City, State, Zip: ARCADIA CA 91006

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  30. Robert Ho, License information taken from records of the Department of Real Estate on 11/19/2010 10:16:48 AM
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    License Type:
    BROKER


    Name:
    Ho, Robert


    Mailing Address:
    51 W PALM DR
    ARCADIA, CA 91007


    License ID:
    00983943


    Expiration Date:
    02/04/12


    License Status:
    LICENSED


    Salesperson License Issued:
    03/19/88 (Unofficial -- taken from secondary records)


    Broker License Issued:
    02/05/96 (Unofficial -- taken from secondary records)


    Former Name(s):
    NO FORMER NAMES


    Main Office:
    2633 S BADWIN AVE
    ARCADIA, CA 91007


    DBA
    NO CURRENT DBAS


    Branches:
    NO CURRENT BRANCHES


    Affiliated Licensed Corporation(s):
    01357697 - Officer Expiration Date: 11/14/10
    Arcadia Financial Services Inc
    OFFICER CANCELED AS OF 12/26/07


    01311192 - Officer Expiration Date: 06/06/09
    Long Dragon Realty Group Inc
    EXPIRED AS OF 06/07/09


    Comment:
    NO DISCIPLINARY ACTION


    NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS


    >>>> Public information request complete <<<<

    Secondary record

    License information taken from records of the Department of Real Estate on 11/19/2010 10:20:20 AM
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    License Type:
    CORPORATION


    Name:
    Arcadia Financial Services Inc


    Mailing Address:
    2633 S BALDWIN AVE
    ARCADIA, CA 91007


    License ID:
    01357697


    Expiration Date:
    11/14/10


    License Status:
    LICENSED


    Corporation License Issued:
    11/15/02


    Former Name(s):
    NO FORMER NAMES


    Main Office:
    2633 S BALDWIN AVE
    ARCADIA, CA 91007


    Licensed Officer(s):
    DESIGNATED OFFICER
    01379571 - Expiration Date: 11/14/10
    Wong, James Wing-Sang


    00983943 - Expiration Date: 11/14/10
    Ho, Robert
    OFFICER CANCELED AS OF 12/26/07


    01315517 - Expiration Date: 11/14/10
    Hsu, Fei Philip
    OFFICER CANCELED AS OF 12/19/06


    00860429 - Expiration Date: 11/14/10
    Lee, John Szu-Ping
    OFFICER CANCELED AS OF 10/18/10


    DBA
    NO CURRENT DBAS


    Branches:
    NO CURRENT BRANCHES


    Comment:
    NO DISCIPLINARY ACTION


    NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS


    >>>> Public information request complete <<<<

    Two other Robert Ho's a Robert Hui Chen Ho from sunnydale, as Ho realty and Investment expired lic 1984 and a Robert I H Ho riverside currently licensed as a broker.

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  31. Yes 10:12, that's the one, as was posted yesterday.

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  32. I thought the hillside houses were supposed to be custom homes. The Dexter stuff is manufactured McMansions.

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  33. long dragonLicense # Agency Company Name License Type Company/Contact/DBA License Status Address Phone
    01112969 DRE Long Dragon Realty (DBA) Corporation DES: Wong, Bosco Wai-Kwok Expired ARCADIA, CA N/A
    01204258 DRE Long Dragon Realty Inc Corporation DES: Thomas, James Dawson Expired ARCADIA, CA N/A
    01311192 DRE Long Dragon Realty Group Inc Corporation DES: Ho, Robert Expired ARCADIA, CA N/A
    01834948 DRE Long Dragon Realty Co Inc Corporation DES: Lee, John Szu-Ping Licensed ARCADIA, CA N/A
    1

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  34. 9:24 The Robert Ho file was very long it hasn't posted yet. You can go to a private investigator and be charged 500 bucks for what I am showing you how to do for free. Sometimes truth hurts, most of the time it frees, enlightens, arms and protects. 9:13 just tells me, someone is protesting a bit too much. Saying I am a source of disinformation is a lie.
    An agent for process of service can be the attorney who represents the firm or it can be the President or CEO or the firm. In order to really find out you must order the officers statement. It is a tool, you use your free tools first, if the account/subject was going into civil or criminal investigation, then you would want to pay for a copy

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  35. Don't forget 9:03--of the 200 city water walk participants, several were among the 2000 protesters and protest letter carriers.

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  36. Plans for the Camillo LLC should have the archetects name and state license number on it. Plans are at the Library in the Planning Commissions placket for last night.

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  37. When the 'owner' of the Camillo hillside project (absent last night's Planning Commission--so the 'archetect' spoke in his place) spoke the last time at the PC meeting, he made a telltale statement: . . . my family always likes big houses each time we build . . . I am paraphrasing here--I wrote it down at the time but can't find my notes.

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  38. The significance of the Camello home plan is that it will be the primary precedent for compliance with the Hillside Management Zone. The variances being requested are the first of many that will follow at 1 Carter and Stonehouse. The proposed variances challenge size, ridgeline compliance, setbacks, height, and the rigorous standards set by Sierra Madre.

    It may well be planned by the developers to use the Camello site to establish variances to pave the way for building what ever they want at 1 Carter and Stondhouse. This will be a test; a "chhizzle away process" propeled by lawyers and developers intent on making Sierra Madre the same as the monstrosity above Arcadia. In fact the effort seems to be centered in Arcadia.

    There is nothing more important than to require the Camello home to adhere to the letter of the law, as outlined by the Hillside Management Zone.

    The Planning Comission is following that course. The City Council must and should be forced by the residents to back the Planning Commission unless something of a behind the scenes "deal" is afoot and then we have a real problem.

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  39. Hear hear 11:45
    "The City Council must and should be forced by the residents to back the Planning Commission"

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  40. Eleven forty five, thank you. I totally respect the planning commission. I hope the planning commission takes note of what they learn here.

    In again, Old Kentucky? We already know the game/deal is afoot.

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  41. My question is why they want to build here?
    That house could be plopped down anywhere.
    They don't care about this town.
    There's no sense of the place, the surroundings, the hillside.

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  42. Once a variance, or CUP is awarded, it will act as legal presidence, so the next project will gain an equivalent right to do the same thing.
    Yes, this first house is a test by the developers to see what will become the standard.

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  43. You'be heard of the Big Easy? One Carter
    Whatever could becomne the Big Ugly.

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  44. Uncle Doyle promisedNovember 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM

    Is the name camillo or camello? did you see the english translation of the spanish word camello? camel, drug dealer?? Any body seen Henry Hillside Nunez at the meetings???

    Watch out for he Hsu's Woo's Wua's, I agree the Arcadia Group come calling. But I wonder what they promised the new owners of the homes?
    If it is so dangerous, then the homes should be modest, because what is up the hill probably will come down the hill. I think if you are in Asia dreaming of coming to a perfect American Sleepy all american good city village like Sierra Madre, the realtors or developers may not disclose the dangers to some relocating whale. But I think hillsides are especially appreciated.

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  45. I don't like the goldring people and I don't trust the galactic federation.November 19, 2010 at 2:16 PM

    Hey Hey I put "in goldring arcadia" and guess what popped up first ??? City of Arcadia City Hall 11800 Goldring, so Dexters address on their website is 11819 goldring!! That is pretty close, kissing cousin close..

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  46. You know darn well that will be the presidence. Leticia used all the big square footage houses in the HMZ and nearby areas to justifiy the size of the house. Said it was not out of line with the others. She will say the next house is in line with the Camillo house. Watch out for that "chickie". She is our senior planner.

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  47. Anyone stupid enough to construct a house on an alluvial plain, beneath an unregulated debris basin, at the mouth of a canyon, below a huge mountain, subject to monsoonal rains, on top of a major fault, frequently scorched by brush fires, needs the protection of a Hillside Management Zone and then some. Stonehouse readies itself for disaster of biblical proportions. The smart money and LLC's left Sierra Madre holding the bag when they disolved.

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  48. What happened to the building codes in Arcadia?
    What happened to set backs?
    Those McMansions, so cookie cutter, are all squished in together.

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  49. Be nice to your new neighborsNovember 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM

    There is a "metrobot goldwing arcadia" map that will show you the businesses all around it, lots of developers, looks like Asian Pacific, mixed with the BrtishHong Kong group. It will just give you an idea, I did not know Arcadia was a charter city. That is closer to Norwood village it never incorporated into El Monte.
    That camillo house is really ugly isn't it?

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  50. Caution ain't the wordNovember 20, 2010 at 8:59 AM

    These people building in the hillsides, especially One Carter and the Canyon, should be aware of the paranormal activity in those areas. The Gabrielina Indian tribe's energy still is dominant there. It's not really wise to destroy that land, to misuse it. You've been warned. Don't take my word for it, investigate for yourselves. There is some very bad energy up there for those who violate the land. It's true.

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  51. 12:42 I AGREE!!

    Why build here?
    Why not build in San Diego near the water. Or in Palm Desert/Springs?

    Leave Sierra Madre alone. Why is it cramming huge and ugly homes on the hillsides. They create dissent among people who are puzzled how real estate is more important than nature and natural beauty.

    It is not about being democrat or republican. It is about appreciating the foothills and the quality of life with the trees and plants and birds. Greed is found in every culture. We cannot keep watching this happen, we have to fight to save our hillsides.

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  52. There are some old Tattler articles that list all the problems at Carter, and the ju-ju is very bad. 8:59 might be on to something. Remember the murder when Greg Galletly/akak Dorn Platz was living there. You have to wonder how Realtor Ho presents that.

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  53. Why build a cookie cutter MacMansion in Sierra Madre?
    Because it's close to the adjacent communities, even downtown LA.
    It's certainly not because anyone who's building that wants to be in this town. It's a hopping off point, that's all.
    The people who came to the planning commission for 723 Camillo were clueless about the commission, the hillsides, the ridges and the town.
    Didn't matter to them where they were.
    It's just more land to buy/build/flip.

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  54. Even if you are not concerned with the paranormal activity up at One Carter, even if you are not superstitious about the murder and other "unfortunate incidents" up there.....you should be very concerned with the:
    TRIANGLE OF DEATH FACTOR.
    1. Earthquake
    2. Flood
    3. Fire

    Buy and build at your own risk in these Gabrielino hillsides.

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