Wednesday, January 25, 2012

The City Council Votes To Run CRA Funded Staff Expenses With General Fund Money

"I think politicians should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we can tell their corporate sponsors." - Comment yesterday from a poster named Snarko

CRA Call to Order/Roll Call

Secret Conference with Legal Counsel - Apparently existing litigation stuff was talked about and a crystal ball was consulted to determine “facts and circumstances that might result in litigation but which the City/Agency believes are not yet known to potential plaintiff or plaintiffs.”

No reportable action taken in closed session regarding one case of ongoing litigation and one anticipated case.

Approval of Agenda, Approval of Minutes - Yes, yes, yes. It all got done. But really, does anyone at the dais appreciate the time and energy the City Clerk expends to produce the minutes for the Community Redevelopment Agency and City Council Meetings?

Mayor and City Council Reports - Not much going on here.

Public Comment - Guess what!! Our PUSD redistricting task force rep Bart Doyle is going to be invited to make a report to City Council!! Thanks Chris Koerber for bring this up! MaryAnn thinks the rep should come to every meeting and give a report! De Alcorn registered dissatisfaction with the secrecy of the closed sessions.

Presentation - Recognition of Citizen of the year, Richard Mays. Thank you Alma Mays for raising your boy up right. You should have been up there as well! A good man.

Consent Calendar

1a) Folks, they spent $684,593.66 up front – your tax dollars!

1b) And, another $391.67 in payments on behalf of the CRA;

1c) Removed part time employees from SDI.

1d) Chatted on about an RFP for audit services for the City of Sierra Madre, Community Redevelopment Agency and Public Finance Authority. Should be music to our ears that staff takes audits so seriously!!

1e) Second reading and adoption of Ordinance No. 1322… Earl Richey demanded that a moratorium on all future building be enacted based on the Council’s comments at the last council meeting “until you can ensure water available and at a fair price.” Wouldn't that make a great ballot question for this November? Show us the water, or shut down all the irresponsible and unsustainable development talk.

1f) Second reading and adoption of Ordinance No. 1327 Barbara Leigh pointed out how difficult it is to read smart meters and deal with tiered pricing, which results in many not knowing their water usage. Residents will be fined for water usage that cannot gauge.

Consent Calendar was passed unanimously.

2. Discussion – Resolution No. 12-012 Authorization for Appropriations of City Reserves for Costs Associated with the 2011 Wind Storm Energy.

Recommendation that the City Council adopt Resolution No. 12-012: Authorizing the appropriation of $936,000 from General Fund and $240,000 in Facilities-Internal Services Fund.

Elaine: Staff worked around the clock. 5,500 tons of debris moved; 6 months worth of trash. City spent $511,000. Want to appropriate General Fund reserves for these costs. Unmet expenditures, costs not incurred yet: $665,000. Generators, roofs. Both generators repaired – nice to replace, but not necessary. Need regular maintenance though, estimated amount $25,000 per year. Optional, $75,000 purchase generator as back up, and could use at Community Center. Council Chambers worked for a few people – not a big group. Roofs, $225,000. Can do spot repairs for $9,000. Just 2 city hall buildings. Tree $24,000 for trimming damaged but can live, $28,000 for tree removals. Down to $52,000. No replacements. $23,000 sidewalk repairs. Using in house staff, so that staff is not available to do other things. Replacement $225 per tree. 122 trees = $27,000. Arborists $40,000. Don’t really need, staff will make the call on iffy trees.

One note here. When the mountains of tree debris were removed from my street, it was done by a private contractor. I know this because I talked with those folks. The northern part of Grove Street was cleared by one contractor, and it was all done on a Sunday. I did not hear Elaine acknowledge that, or include contractors in her spoken list of expenses last night. Were they perhaps an Athens hire? I'm not saying City employees didn't work hard, but a lot of this work was done by contractors as well. And perhaps this was necessary, but it is something that we the taxpayers are now paying for. So as long as some people are attempting to take credit here, maybe we should thank ourselves.

Staff took a “sharpened pencil” to the recommended recommendations and a total of $695,000 was ultimately recommended.

John Capoccia, Chris Koerber, and Barbara Leigh tag teamed the Council during Public Comment.

Resolution No. 12-012 passed unanimously as amended

3. Discussion – Consideration of Resolution No. 12-14 designating the City as the Successor Agency to the CRA; Readopting the enforceable obligation payment schedules; designating the creation of the redevelopment obligation retirement fund; and consideration of the successor agency retaining affordable housing functions of the CRA.

Recommendation that the City Council and Agency Board provide staff with direction.

In other words, the City was using CRA money to run their day to day expenses over the years, and now that this money is gone City Hall is in a bit of a pickle. A practice contrary to most everything we had heard in the past about how this money was being used for its intended purpose, which was to fight our nonexistent blight problem (click here). Or to help to fund downtown's celebrated wine tasting room.

The Staff was asking for $500,000 so that they could have 4 to 5 months notice on job layoffs and program cuts. Josh Moran, perhaps not wishing to soil his soft white hands with such nasty work, recommended that Commissions look at possible cuts to programs and staff. Which, and excuse me if this seems harsh or uncivil, struck me as a rather craven copout. Volunteers should not be required to do the hiring and firing in this town. That is a job for elected officials.

Nancy Walsh wanted to spend upwards of $800,000 to make up for the CRA shortfall. Which shows that she would prefer to bankrupt this City rather than do what Josh had asked volunteers to do. Nancy took the lack of leadership we saw last night from Josh to a whole new level. Apparently buck passing was the order of the evening.

MaryAnn MacGillivray pointed out that this is not how moneys are spent in the private sector. The whole "spending good money after bad" concept being alien to the notion of profitability and sound budgeting good sense. Having myself worked on a floor where 30 out the 35 people working there were unceremoniously let go one morning (I survived), and were out on the street by lunch, I do understand how such unpleasantness is done. I'm also certain that it is not the taxpayers fault that the CRA is now gone, or their burden to temporarily prop up what is no longer financially sustainable.

John Buchanan helpfully pointed out that the City Council needed to cough up the money to keep "budgeted expenses going." The assumption being that if it is already budgeted, you must do it. Budgets being sacred for our Mayor. All of which to me was a good indication of just how weak the taxpayer bailout argument really was.

The best suggestion on the matter came from Barbara Leigh Cline who suggested that since the City Council lacked the will to do the job, perhaps staff should get together and vote to take the necessary pay cuts and save their positions that way.

The City Council directed that $250,000 be allocated to be used only if necessary while staff was directed to come back in two month with a plan to slash services, slash staff, and slash spending. A shortfall of $800,000 will somehow have to be covered if our downtown full employment greenhouse is to remain as it has been.

Quote of the Night: “We all have a problem. Get rid of properties in RDA, the city is not a developer. We’re overspending. We don’t have the money available for the services we have. We need to be realistic. This city council has not done a good job.” – Earl Richey

Resolution No. 12-14 passed with 3 ayes and a single nay. The dissenting vote coming from Nancy Walsh, who wanted to spend more than 3 times that amount. Nancy's compassion obviously being with City Staff and not the people she was elected to serve.

My take? With the passing of the CRA into the dustbin of history, so follows the business model of our current City Hall. The way government has been done in this town is no longer financially sustainable (to use a soft term for it), and running the City at a loss on the public's credit card is not the answer. What exactly will we get for our $800,000? Is it worth it to the tax payers to prop that place up? What exactly do we gain, and will it take a tax increase to make it happen? Those are the questions that need to be asked.

Delaying the inevitable with massive reserve spends is not the solution. Passing the responsibility on to volunteer committees is not the solution, either. This is a can that cannot be kicked down the road again. Or passed on to the next City Council.

The Mayor and the Mayor Pro Tem should do their damned jobs rather than trying to buy some extra time. There are far more important issues than Josh avoiding having to do the politically inexpedient dirty work called for here. That is what leadership really is, facing a serious problem and doing what needs to be done. Not passing the responsibility on to future City Councils, or volunteer commissions.

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133 comments:

  1. My My,Chickens Do Come Home To Roost!Can't wait to watch these nit wits deal with this fiasco!

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  2. The only way a commissioner can make an informed decision about budget matters is to have a line by line budget. The City has yet to make that available. Even then, it will take more inside knowledge of the workings of a department than the Commissioners have. Wherever I've worked, it is the department head who makes the tough decisions who to hire and who to let go, not staff.

    Moran wants to let the public decide which services they want to keep. What if they want to keep them all? Shall we cut the 4th of July celebration? How about Huck Finn Day? Or, how about closing the library for 3 days a week? I wouldn't want that, but the Trustees might determine that it is the only way to cut. How far would my input go as a citizen wanting services? To let the Commissions and citizens decide is really a harebrained idea.

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  3. We need leaders, we got weasels and nincompoops. God knows how much they would have spent if MaryAnn wasn't there to stop them.

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    1. Welcome back John Crawford!
      John and I missed the meeting last night, so thank you for giving us this report! Glad you're feeling better!

      When I was going door to door to get signatures to put Measure V on the ballot, I went to Earl Richey's home. We explained to Mr. Richey what we were trying to do, he asked us a lot of questions.
      He finally told us he would sign our petition, and he was in favor of Measure V. Told us he was a developer, I believe out in the desert area. He didn't believe downtown Sierra Madre should be over built. It would over tax the town's resources, and we wouldn't be able to afford it.
      Earl Richey was right. I never forgot what he said, "Sierra Madre should not be over developed".

      Thank you my friend, Barbara Leigh Cline for your comments. Thank you Chris Koerber and John Capoccia, you two guys, like Barbara are always willing to take a stand for fiscal responsibility and have the knowledge to come up with sound solutions!

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  4. Cut everyone tp 32 hours a week; close ALL city services on Fridays including the Library; no travel, no conferences, no lunches, no City paid food fests for the balance of the fiscal year; and voluntary salary reductions. Yes, we'll lose some good employees but the next step could be bankruptcy or annexation.

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  5. The irony is so thick here you could cut it with a Kodiak. Why is it that volunteer committees need to solve the city's staffing problems? Aren't those the the people nancy said could be "taken out?"

    Worst City Council. Ever.

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  6. So let me see if I have this straight. CRA money was supposed to be spent on blight, but Sierra Madre was paying for all this stuff with that money? And now we're supposed to make up the difference out of the general fund?

    Why?

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    1. 7:27 asks why?

      Because authoritarian puppets, Buchanan, Moran and Walsh say so!
      Bart Doyle told them to.

      I don't know how MacGillivray can sit up there at the same table with these people.

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  7. Gack! Where to begin?

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  8. Good morning Tattlers,
    A big story yet to be revealed is how much CRA money has been spent on lawsuits. How much money is the city manager paying each month to the various law firms defending the city of Sierra Madre from it's grand ineptitude?

    Neuroblast Films

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  9. We need to fire Colantuono and Levin. $250,000 a year for the kind of advice that got us into this mess is a bad buy. Let City Hall pay for their own defense.

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  10. Empty the place out and start from scratch. Make everyone interview for their jobs before they're allowed back in.

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  11. Until Bart Doyle came to town, we never had all these expensive attorney firms working for us. Remember Charlie Martin? I think he even acted as City Manager as well as City Attorney for a while and for a lot more reasonable salary.
    Our current firm is way out of our price range, at this time.

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  12. Colantuono and Levin was hired because of the legal support that firm gives to redevelopment. It was a hire because of a shared agenda. Redevelopment is dead, and now the city is forced to beg for money from us. There is no need for that firm to be here anymore. Those days are over.

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  13. So I guess the city wasn't co-mingling funds after all. Rather they were sleeping with it.

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    1. I think you mean they were using the CRA funds to #@*> us.

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  14. Good point, 8:07. But now that the house of cards has collapsed it looks like they only did that to themselves.

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  15. Elaine,
    I have a request how about a YOUTUBE posted Q & A with you and John Crawford covering the top ten concerns of the citizens. Neuroblast may even want to film it.

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    1. The last time I spoke with Elaine was at Memorial Park on 7/5/10. She told me that the reason for the water rate hike was because of the need to repair rusty old pipes. Bruce Inman was there with a length of old water pipe to provide a visual aid to her claim. Later it turned out that the real reason for the water rate hike was to satisfy some out of compliance old water bond debt, and had very little to do with infrastructure repairs. Naturally I haven't spoken to her since. Nor will I now.

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  16. Good God. But . . . April . . . Come she will . . .

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    1. May...she wil staaaaaaayyy (Mary Anne)

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  17. I'm going to disagree with the quote of the night Tattler. I think it came from John Capoccia when he was talking about the end of the CRA , the lack of planning on the city's part, personnel cuts, and misleading people about how city services, like washing the sidewalks, were paid for . Everything he said stood out so strongly because he is obviously such a clear thinker. Thank you Mr. Capoccia.

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  18. I think you want to disagree with the attribution, 8:49 am, not the sentiment. But it was Earl Richey. John Capoccia made a number of relevant comments last night, as did Mr. Richey, Mr. Koerber, and Ms. Cline. And include in that line up De Alcorn. We're blessed to have men and women who take the governance of this community seriously. If this and past City Councils had listened we wouldn't be teetering on the brnk of insolvency.

    What a marvelons day is coming! No Moran Pro Tem; no babbling Nancy Walsh; just three experienced managers with no personal interests to feed. Remember! 3 of 5 to stay alive!

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  19. Am I reading correctly? Bart Doyle is making a command appearance at City Council? Milk will curdle, pregnant women will miscarry, and grown men will shake in their boots. Is this wise?

    Let's plan a surprise for Mr. Doyle!

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  20. 9:04, sorry I was unclear. I meant that the best speaker of the night, the best community inout, came from Capoccia, though I'll give Richey a second place. When Capoccia faulted the city for lack of contingency plans, Buchanan had to spend five minutes on that alone, explaining and justifying each and every city action for ever and ever through eternity. As in "It happened so fast!" and "We're doing better than other cities." Any parent recognizes those excuses.

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  21. Did anyone else hear Mayor Buchanan say he gave a State of the City speech to the Women's club about 10 days ago? What was that? A trial run?

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  22. channel 3 watcherJanuary 25, 2012 9:22 AM

    I wish somebody would tell Mr. Moran that he does not have to fill every second with a sound.

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  23. Great ideas 7:10.

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  24. Love it!!!!!!!!!!January 25, 2012 9:36 AM

    9:04!

    "Remember! 3 of 5 to stay alive!"

    MacGillivray, Koerber and Capoccia, three experience financial experts and problem solvers.
    Two unqualified councilmembers are two too many.

    THREE OF FIVE TO STAY ALIVE!!!!!

    Hire people who will protect our tax money and protect our property values.
    The choice is clear!

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  25. Josh Moran said that washing the sidewalks was done with Redevelopment funds, 'rightfully so.'
    Washing the sidewalks is a part of the Redevelopment Agencies intention to remove community and economic blight?
    No wonder the court abolished them.

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  26. 9:18, the Women's Club was Mr. Buchanan's dress rehearsal in front of an adoring audience - might not be received quite so well when it's open to all residents. Hope Mr. Richey is saving the date.

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  27. Adios Officer Berry . . .January 25, 2012 9:57 AM

    If ever there was a time to kill the fattened cash draining cow, it is now.

    REPLACE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE CONTRACTED SERVICES FROM ARCADIA, PASADENA, OR THE COUNTY. FOLLOW LA CANADA'S LEAD AND SAVE $1 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR ON A GENERAL FUND BUDGET OF ONLY $6 MILLION.

    Side Bonus: Eliminate investment risk on future pension liabilities (the county assumes this under the La Canada contract).

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  28. Josh also said that using CRA funds to help pay for a wine tasting room was proper usage. Josh is an idiot.

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    1. Kind of like our version of the mermaid bar paid for by CRA funds

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  29. Buchanan's so-called "State of the City" speech before the Womans Club was basically a sales pitch for a 12% UUT. Which, after the revelations about our CRA disaster, is going to seem like a tea cup in the ocean.

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  30. Washing the sidewalks is prohibited under the emergency water conservation measures. Drop that service and save those dollars.

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  31. our City Council meetings should end with playing the video that closes out Looney Tunes cartoons, Porky Pig saying "tttttttthat's all folks"

    it's almost comical to hear the random splatters of incoherent and brash proposals spoken by Moran and Walsh and the drab green lawyer meanderings of John Buchanan claiming we are on the verge of collapse....if we don't approve a tax hike that benefits his employer

    Mary Ann makes a valid point which rattle around in Moran's and Walsh's head for a half second before they dismiss Mary Ann's viewpoint as invalid.

    All I need to know about Moran as a unbiased Councilman is that he said he was going to first appoint his friends and supporters to city committees and he once advocated a boycott of Sierra Madre businesses via Beth Buck's old defunct blog.

    Walsh's "lookie here" moment is her legacy - attacks volunteers and pronounce to us all that volunteers work at her disposal along with Moran, Buchanan and then Mosca.

    Buchanan lied to us about the water pipes and was piggybacking the tax hike with bonds so he could build a new library and was also hiding the misgivings of a previous Council, which happen to be his supporters and allies and he has constantly bemoaned the inability to build out downtown with condos, parking lots and mixed used complex.

    Which benefit Buchanann's employer.

    tttttthat's all folks........

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  32. "In other words, the City was using CRA money to run their day to day expenses over the years, and now that this money is gone City Hall is in a bit of a pickle. A practice contrary to most everything we had heard in the past about how this money was being used for its intended purpose, which was to fight our nonexistent blight problem (click here). Or to help to fund downtown's celebrated wine tasting room."

    John,

    You make an excellent point here, but it's uncharacteristically understated. Using CRA money to pay Staff to perform non-CRA functions is not only "contrary to most everything we have heard," but illegal.

    This deserves it's own story later this month.

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    1. Stay tuned. This hardly a one day story.

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    2. Wow, I'll be up early tomorrow.

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    3. Which begs the question, once again, can we criminally prosecute Buchanan, et. al. for their actions? This is not the first nor the only incidence of illegal shenanigans in which he has engaged as a Sierra Madre city council member.

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  33. I'll vote for whomever Zimmerman endorses. Who is Zimmerman endorsing?

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    1. I would guess, MaryAnn MacGillivray. MaryAnn respects Kurt Zimmerman and he respects MaryAnn.

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  34. 10:11. Great post.

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  35. We really need to clean house down in City Hall. The problem, however, ends with our lobbyist for development intereast City Attorney, but begins with our City Manager.

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  36. Elaine has been doing everything she can to undermine Kurt Zimmerman's legacy.

    This must be killing Kurt.

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    1. Kurt will have the last laugh.

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    2. Excuse me ....but I just barfed in my mouth a little....Kurt Zimmerman
      Legacy?...bwahahahahahahahah..lollolololololmfao..omg!!!!

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    3. So you've come on the thread to criticize Zimmerman, an that's the best you can do? What are you, 14?

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  37. City Hall lives off us, but doesn't work for us. It is a host/parasite kind of relationship. We feed them, but they give us nothing back.

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  38. Zimmerman = balanced budget and preservation

    Elaine = deficit spending and "stack and pack" development in the downtown.

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  39. 10:22, I'm not 10:20, but I'll take a shot at this. The effort by city staff to "clarify" a term in Measure V was an effort to invalidate Measure V altogether. Measure V was the necessary measure to stop downtown Sierra Madre from turning into an over-developed nightmare, and it was Zimmerman who led that effort. So the city staff (no doubt instigated by Moran and Buchanan via Colantuono and Levin) acting to end the protection of Measure V must be quite a drag for Zimmerman. But surely, as smart as he is, he's not surprised.

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    1. Measure V was written to cover all bases. It was well crafted by high profile attorney, Christopher Sutton, assisted by Attorney Kurt Zimmerman and other SMRRD officials.
      It's going to be very difficult for the dirts to overturn this law.
      I think the city got the message when Mr. Sutton and Mr.Zimmerman attended and spoke at the last Planning Commission meeting.

      Feel like gambling, dirts? You're going to lose....again.

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    2. One of the most significant points both of these gentlemen made was that staff's efforts to change the definition (clarify? right...) of a dwelling unit would result in a lawsuit against the city, since such action would be deemed unconstitutional and illegal. Again, not the first and only time our city staff has wandered into this "grey" area.

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  40. Elaine fought and killed Kurt's call for a forensic audit. If she hadn't we would have known about this CRA criminal activity a long time ago.

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  41. Who woulda thunk it?
    Finally city staff will be forced to get down to an appropriate size, and it was the state that had the gumption to do it.

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    1. That does it. I'm naming my next dog Jerry Brown.

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    2. Oh, same initials as John Buchanan. Be sure not to shorten the name to JB or you might be perceived as naming the dog after our not so venerable city council member and that would be a stinging insult to the dog.

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  42. Implicit in the above posts is the recognition that it will not be enough to simply change the majority on the Council. As long as Elaine and C&L are running things day-to-day it will be very difficult for new Council members to implement real reforms.

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  43. Great comments! We need to take back our Council. Do your part--start now talking to neighbors and friends. Remind them that they MUST vote, and who to vote for. We are fortunate to have great candidates running, who are not afraid to speak up, despite threats from City Hall. Number one priority is MacGillivray, who has saved us again and again. As for the others, just don't vote for Goss. On April 9 and 10 call, email, knock on doors, get the vote out. If we win back our Council, then we won't have to put up with Moran as mayor, since the position will be voted on by the new council. I agree 7:47, let's fire the law firm, the firm that gave us, "If it doesn't have a kitchen, it's not a dwelling unit, so, gee, then it doesn't fall under Measure V!"

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  44. We need to rebuild our city government from the bottom up. The CRA is dead, and so is the way city hall does business. New law firm, new management, and a financially savvy city council. Sierra Madre cannot afford to have a city hall where vastly unqualified people like Josh Moran and nancy Walsh would call the shots. We need functioning, responsible adults. Otherwise this town might not survive as an independent city. It is as simple as that. We'll end up a ward of the County, and then good luck trying and stop stack and pack overdevelopment.

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  45. Posters here want to give Danny Castro a pass, but he's part of the problem too. What's his excuse for letting the Congs build a school in the downtown without adhering to the zoning code?

    His name is also on the memo proposing to gut Measure V. I don't accept that he was "just following orders."

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  46. I hear that candidate John Harabedian is supported by the Buchanan family. Is that right?

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  47. John H sought out John B for advice before he filed his papers.
    John H is also endorsed by Toni Moran.
    Perhaps Buchanan and Moran are trying to muddy his name.

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  48. Maybe the CRA mess is why John Buchanan is not running for reelection.

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  49. I just want to know if we can hire Kurt Zimmerman to be the City Attorney. That would solve a lot of problems. And I'd be willing to give him a substantial portion of what we spend on C&L everymonth.

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  50. Harabedian is the "establishment candidate." Too bad. I thought he had some political courage. Another Joe Mosca. Bleeeeeecccccch

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    1. The other establishment candidate is Braudrick.
      Here they go again......
      Stay tuned.

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  51. I met Harabedian and liked him. I'm glad I know about his affiliation with Buchanan now, so I can vote for somebody else in my absentee ballot.

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  52. Blinders off said.

    Yes, the "No on Measure V" crowd are firmly behind Harabedian.

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  53. I'm waiting for the obligatory troll post that states Harabedian is an earnest and independent young man, who will make up his own mind and is not subject to the outside influences of realtors (e.g. Moran) and pro-development politicians (e.g. Buchanan).

    At least Mosca pretended that he was a preservationist and distanced himself from the pro-development people when he was running.

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  54. Actually, Harabedian reminds me of Mosca. At the Planning Commission meeting he asked the Commissioners pointed questions about the City's proposal to re-interpret Measure V. If you didn't know that the "No on Measure V" crowd were his big supporters, you might think Harabedian supports Measure V.

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  55. Sierra Pacific Power Company

    http://www.i-esq.com/?Sierra-Pacific-Power-Company

    Whats the John Harabedian connection?

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    1. Looks like Harabedian has pulled a lot of stuff off the internet that could be problematic for him?
      He had something to do with SCAG as well.
      I'm afraid Mr. Harabedian has too many powerful connections to the Central Government Statists in Sacramento.
      Which is okay if he is running for State office in his Democratic Party, but it sure doesn't qualify him to be on the Sierra Madre City Council. What's the agenda here?

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  56. I'd be surprised if Buchanan doesn't move out of town shortly after his term is up. His record is so awful and the consequences so bad that he probably will want to start over somewhere else.

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  57. I'm sorry anybody has to lose a job, but the city staff expansion should never have been allowed in the first place, and who in their right minds thought the expansion could keep going, in a city of this size?

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  58. I say drop the Community Services Department (read Rec.). Keep the pool open, but then that's it. People can find elsewhere to take classes or just plain old walk around town for exercise.
    And I'm saying this remembering the gal who got up during the Measure F (for failed tax) and said the city would have to pay back the County one million dollars if it touched the Rec. Dept. OK, let's do that with some kind of arrangement and stop the frivolous spending on a Rec. Department in these cut-to-the-bone times.

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  59. Eight years of Buchanan's leadership has brought us to imminent collapse.

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    1. Well, Buchanan did allow for One Carter to be destroyed.
      Oh yeah, Stonehouse property as well.

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    2. Bush did quite job devastating the national economy in his eight years in office as well. Though they may be in different political parties, they operate on the same level, in the same mindset and do what appears to be the same damage.

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  60. So what happens if Sacramento audits our CRA spends and they see alll this salary stuff on it. Do they declare the spends invalid and demand we give them that money? How screwed are we here?

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  61. Last night council member Moran muttered something about incredibly low interest municipal government loans being available. I kid you not. He's talking about going deeper into debt.

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    1. I guess Josh could sell the City a reverse mortgage on City Hall. That is, if we actually owned it.

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  62. Eerie non sequitur of the night goes to Nancy Walsh.In the middle of a heated conversation about the CRA she piped up to say, "This really all goes back to the water."

    Maybe she thought they were talking about goldfish.

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    1. LOL, good one. That's our Nancy!

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  63. 10:48, 10:59 are you positive about the Buchanan endorsement of Haribidian?

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  64. Earl Richey is voice our of reason...no water, no developement. This is the hue & cry of Santa Clarita, also and they DON'T Develope!!! Simple as that. It's being realistic & responsible folks. Low watage walsh is a pariah to even herself, let alone residents of Sierra Madre. Nothing's worse than having someone on c.c. with a room temperature I.Q. AND be mean & a talking head for someone else's ideas & questionable ethics!! It's downright Dangerous!!!!

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    1. Good description of the honorable Nancy Walsh. LOL LOL LOL

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  65. Personally, I think Zimmerman would make a great City Manager.

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    1. Zimmerman would do a good job where ever he was placed.
      He's a KING!

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    2. THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!!!! How could we do that? Kurt is brilliant, fair & wouldn't let past & present dirty political shenanigans break our bankbooks!!! If we can imagine it...it can happen. Ya think?

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  66. Explain to me how the residents can stop this fiscal malfeasance by the Council before all the public money is piddled away???

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    1. We can put MacGillivray back on the council.
      We can elect finacial and management experts Chris Koerber and John Capoccia to office.
      That would neuter Moran and make Nancy Walsh insignificant
      without her brain, Buchanan.

      The people have a clear choice. Stop all these bad policies or be fleeced of home value and your money. It's that serious.
      We need competent people and they can correct this. It's not too late.

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  67. Harebidian is a white collar criminal defense attorney.

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  68. I hear Koerber is a Tea Partier and his campaign manager is a realtor who fought against Measure V.

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    1. Considering the mess your boys have made of this town, I'd vote for Ghengis Khan over the peewees you are in love with.

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    2. If you're talking about Sandi S? She hates what the Doyle/Hayes Nelson gang has done to this town, don't know the woman, but that would be my guess.
      In case you didn't see her speak at a city council meeting not long ago, she ripped old Bart Doyle a new one. She was outraged at the gang of 4 appointing him to the PSUSD.
      Sandi S. is a conservative. She probably is as concerned as the rest of us about the way these people have been wasting our money on bad causes.
      Give it up. Sandi isn't running and Chris Koerber is a guy with an excellent reputation in this town. And last time I noticed, his wife, Halcyon was running his campaign and she is doing a great job of it. Again, give it up.

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    3. You have a short memory if you think Saraganian is for slow growth.

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  69. Hi! Just came back from the beach & attended a "quiet circle" after some surfing...always like to thank the universe for positivity & balance. Something that Sierra Madre needs desperately. An exorcism is really more fitting..too many greedocrats. Waaaay tooo many landsharks, but then I repeat myself!!!!

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  70. Chief Black KettleJanuary 25, 2012 6:12 PM

    Soon to be Mayor Josh Moran was displaying at last night's City Council meeting like a peacock in full rut, not to mix my metaphors but he also acted like a ship's steward on the Titanic who had just secured himelf a cushy seat in the last lifeboat. With Councilmen like these it's no wonder we're broke.

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    1. Or like that "chicken of the sea" captain that left all those people to die on that Italian Cruise ship while he got himself safely in a life boat. Yep, same kind of a-hole as Moran.

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  71. The more I find out about Koerber, the more I am intrigued. I think he's trying to play both sides of the fence: Tattlers and Downtown Dirt Club. He's obviously in with them (Sandi/Cumquat/etc.) -- and have you seen the photo HE posted of himself on Facebook with Moran AND Buchanan??? Are you kidding? Not the smartest political move.

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  72. Not conservative, not liberal;
    local.

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    1. You got that right! Not Conservative, Not Liberal

      Yes Local..........Yes qualified for job.

      Yes to MacGillivray. Yes to Koerber. Yes to Capoccia.
      All long time locals, all more than qualified.

      Others are problematic.

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  73. Our Mayor is not supporting Chris, that tells me Koerber is one to support and vote for.

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  74. Let's see if Koerber really is gaming it and takes the photo down...

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  75. Where's SNARKO?January 25, 2012 6:56 PM

    Wow, this is like a big REALITY SHOW!
    SNARKO?

    Check in! What say you?

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  76. Chris Koerber is aJanuary 25, 2012 6:59 PM

    weasel. Come on. Can't we get a non-smarmy politician?

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    1. Substantive remarks would be more productive than name calling.
      What is it that Koerber has said about how to run the city of Sierra Madre that you disagree with?
      I really want to know, because I haven't decided who to vote for.

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  77. There's a well known woman in town, who despises Zimmerman because her friends own property in the downtown. She approached me during the Santa Anita fire and said something that has always stuck with me. She said, "I hate Kurt Zimmerman, but I'm glad he's the Mayor during this crisis. He's the only real leader this town has ever had."

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  78. Let's see who Kurt endorses.

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  79. Mister Wister has a ridiculous poll about the election up on his/her blog. But only 4 people have voted on it. Pitiful.

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  80. 6:41, I too will be guided by Buchanan's endorsements - who not to vote for. Much in the same way I imagine he would be guided by Crawford's endorsement - again, who not to vote for.

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  81. I think we have a goose/gander quandry here.
    Mr. Braudrick is slammed for his association with Moran;
    Mr. Haribidian is slammed for his association with Buchanan;
    Surely it's fair game to slam Mr. Koerber for his reputed association with Siraganian.
    Which begs the question - what are we to make of these associations?

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    1. Just use your common sense, vote for the people who are qualified.
      You got one sure shot, MaryAnn MacGillivray. No doubt she's the most qualified of all.

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    2. http://www.maryann4sm.com/endorse

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  82. The Colin Braudrick "fans" are posting away tonight.
    Come on old gals, this guy is an LAPD officer, in the Police Officer's Union.
    They love cops to run for city council offices, so they can negociate for their union. If they don't , the unions can make it tough on them.
    This man is not qualified to be on our council and you all know it.
    Stop bashing Chris Koerber. He's a qualified candidate, like it or not, the voters are going to consider my point and make the correct choice.

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  83. I say wait and watch to see wo the PUSD redistricting rep, Bart Doyle, makes eye contact with next City Council then we'll know who not to vote for!

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  84. Koerber is friends with Rob Stockly and his wife is a mucky muck in the Civic Club. His expertise is in insurance not finance. I'm sure he's a fine man but he's a little friendly with the DIRTS. When did he ever speak at City Council before the last couple of months? Didn't he throw a big party and invite Tim Donnelly to speak?

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  85. 7:37, Tim Donnelly won in Sierra Madre.

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  86. To 7:34 pm's point, "What is it that Koerber has said about how to run the city of Sierra Madre that you disagree with?", what has Mr. Koerber said about how to run the city of Sierra Madre? I've heard him speak at the podium and read all the unsubstantiated comments about who he does/doesn't associate with but no one has said much about his ideas for runnning the city. So...

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  87. It's nights like this that make me regret not running for City Council.

    Then again, maybe no.

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  88. I think we should talk to Jeff Hildreth everything he has said is true!!!

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  89. I like Colin but . . .January 25, 2012 8:42 PM

    Colin is a great guy. He has spoken in favor of preservation. He should be elected but for one little problem: He is a member of a police union. I agree with 7:32. I can't vote for him when over half the general fund he is responsible for is paid to the co-union "cop brotherhood" members of the SMPD. It could, of course, be argued that the SMPD members are more of the janitor with gun form of security, but that's beside the point. Colin is going to have to do an awful lot to convince me that he is willing to take them on.

    As for the "Friends of Dirts" comment, please note that this would DQ virtually every socially active citizen in our goofy little town. I have friends who are the "Dirt" camp. That doesn't mean I agreed with their efforts to convert the town into a condo canyon and gathering spot for people my Mom used to call "bums."

    Finally, we really need to move beyond all this knee jerk negativity. Joe Mosca, who caused most of it by lying about his DSP intentions, is thankfully gone. Buchannan is going. Josh is an amiable bozo and Nancy seems like a nice lady, when she isn't threatening to "take you out." Measure V is not going anywhere. Let's get a group of neighbors in who will make the trains run on time and balance the budget without raising our taxes. Kind of like Mayor for Life Marianne.

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    1. 8:42, I have heard that Braudrick is for contracting out police services, a la La Canada.

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    2. Good question to ask in an open public forum!

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  90. This time the REAL truthJanuary 25, 2012 8:42 PM

    Interesting insight to the way people vote.
    Are we looking at a voter's critical thinking about the candidates experience?
    Are we looking at the candidates involvement in issues?
    Are we looking at the candidates involvement with people over the many years of their lives, whom they happen to know for many reasons, not just political?

    Are we being open, and giving people the benefit of the doubt?

    Are we looking at a candidate's policy?

    Are we being just plain snarky and judgmental? Nasty and contrary on purpose?

    Are we asking questions which will bring us sensible answers to our problems?

    Are we asking the candidates for ideas to find solutions to our problems?

    Are we looking at a person's past political actions and asking if these would be beneficial for out towns future?

    We must use our intelligence and common sense.

    Emotional knee jerk reactions, please, no more.

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  91. That was going to be my posting!

    1. The city council has failed to remember that the money they spend belongs to the state of California, and or the residents of Sierra Madre...
    2. If the money belonged to the city council members, they would not be willing to have misappropriated "their CASH" so easily,,
    3. Further more...I think the 6 months of find a new job notice was out of context...
    4. We need the hard workers in the field,
    > the city staff, earning in excess of $65,000 a year, needs a salary reduction,
    > and all city employees being paid with CRA monies, need to find new employment
    5 THE REAL TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THOSE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO LOOSE THEIR JOB, SHOULD BE MADE AS HELL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SPENT THEIR SALARIES AGAIN TONIGHT, just under a million dollars!!!!!
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  92. Kurt Zimmerman: YES

    Chris Sutton said get rid of C and C.

    That would bring brilliance and economic savings.

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  93. Attorney Sutton did say that, didn't he? Get rid of Colantuono and Levin.
    Not need to discuss or explain - we simply can't afford them anymore.

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  94. What we're seeing is politically naive and inexperienced candidates running for office. All of them think that the best way to get elected is by sitting on the fence. Colin lives with Moran and is Moran's friend, but comes to a Planning Commission meeting and speaks out in favor of Measure V.

    Koerber plasters his picture on facebook with Buchanan and Moran, but then sends his wife to a Planning Commission meeting to speak out in favor of Measure V.

    Harebidian is supported by Moran's mother and Buchanan, but also comes to the planning Commission meeting to speak out in favor of Measure V.

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