Breaking News - ALF is going for a vote in November. The outcry in Sierra Madre in defense of Measure V paid off. Billy Shields, send that man some roses or something. Vote in November so it will have gone through the entire approval process, including the Planning Commission. This news comes from MaryAnn MacGillivray's website. Click here for more details. Congratulations Sierra Madre!You do know that there is a vast Developer-Consultant Complex out there, right? They do lots of things, of course. Development is a many faceted effort, and no grand concepts can ever go forward unless all the particulars have been taken care of first. And one of the DCC's more important functions is to bamboozle residents into properly submitting to whatever development is targeted for their town, no matter how big or ugly.
After all, there are always some people who are going to be opposed to whatever it is the client wishes to build, and it's important that the local people be dealt with properly and efficiently.
Currently in Sierra Madre the challenge in question is a little different. We are talking about the Alfington, the senior care center that is slated to rise out of the ashes of the old Skilled Nursing Facility. And what makes this situation somewhat special is that the townsfolk are not necessarily opposed to the project. As a matter of fact, people here have been waiting a long time for something viable to be build on that badly abused site. So what is the problem, you ask?
There is a special developer need in this case. And that is because a local ordinance called "The Voters Empowerment Act" would allow the people of Sierra Madre to actually vote on the client's project. Something that is vehemently opposed by the city government of Sierra Madre, which has apparently somehow convinced the client (Fountain Square Development West) that they should be opposed to it as well. This despite the general popularity of their project.
In the tough cases like this you need to bring in a special company skilled in handling such delicate tasks. And the company hired for that job was Hogle-Ireland.
So how did they propose to work around the troublesome resident voting clause of Measure V? Apparently the mighty minds of Hogle-Ireland got together and cooked up a highly sophisticated and erudite strategy that would not only help beat the residents out of a voting right, it would also open the entire downtown area of Sierra Madre to the kinds of large-scale building projects the Downtown Investors Club has been dreaming of for years. Which was probably the point all along.
Hogle-Ireland have assumed that people here really don't care all that much about their right to review out-sized development through their vote, and all they would need to do is arbitrarily swap out a couple of words in the applicable ordinance and their work would be done. And in something called the "Mitigated Negative Declaration," Hogle-Ireland showed us what can be done for the kinds of handsome consultant fees they command.
"The proposed project is within the Central Core area, as defined by Section 17.35 of the Zoning Code. The project is consistent with requirements of this section with regard to applicable height limits (30 feet and two stories). The proposed assisted living facility is an institutional use, and therefore the project's intensity is not defined in terms of dwelling units per acre. As such (the) limits of Section 17.17.35.040 does not apply."
Pretty diabolical, eh? Rather than deal with the density restriction aspects of Sierra Madre law as it was written, Hogle-Ireland declared that the applicable ordinance language didn't really exist, and then went and arbitrarily made up some new stuff of their own. Just invented it right on the spot. The assumption being that the people of Sierra Madre would lack the will or sophistication to defend their right to vote in this case and, backed up by supportive elected officials, city staff and compliant taxpayer funded city attorneys, this could be made to stand.
And why not? I am sure strategies such as this have worked just fine in a lot of other cities. All you have to do is look around at the architectural disaster much of Southern California has become to understand that people really don't fight back very much against this kind of centrally planned and government dictated sort of stuff. Certainly cities like Downey and Rancho Cucamonga didn't become what they are today because the people living there actually wanted it, right?
So what exactly is Hogle-Ireland? Well, they are an award winning consultancy and planning corporation that has received accolades from none other than the Southern California Association of Governments (SCAG) and the American Planning Association (APA). And they got these fine awards for doing their part to help turn places like Downey and Rancho Cucamonga into some of the absolutely worst examples of the "stack and pack" generic design so favored by Sacramento and the various development and realty lobbies responsible for SB375.
Check this Hogle-Ireland award from SCAG out:
SCAG Compass Blueprint Awards - City of Downey - Downtown Specific Plan - Achievement in Livability Award: The Specific Plan establishes the Downtown as a vibrant urban center with dining, employment, housing, shopping, entertainment, and cultural opportunities all within a short walking distance of one another. ... A crucial aspect of the Specific Plan is the incorporation of a Park-Once Strategy designed to get residents out of their cars, and walking to reach multiple destinations within one trip, thereby reducing the dependence on automobiles.
Ah yes. Urban design as behavior modification. Get out of your car and walk, resident. You as a fallible citizen are not capable of making development decisions on your own, and Hogle-Ireland is here to fill the yawning gaps in your wisdom for you. Doesn't this sound a lot like the claims made for the Downtown Specific Plan that we stopped here 5 years ago? Anybody been to Downey lately? Would you be happy if our city ended up looked like that? Switch about 45 votes in the Measure V election and that is exactly what you'd be looking at today.
City of Rancho Cucamonga - General Plan - Comprehensive Planning Award of Merit: Large Jurisdiction: Unique to the Rancho Cucamonga General Plan is the "Healthy RC" theme, with goals and policies that inspires a lifestyle that embraces a healthy Mind, Body and Earth through lifelong learning and enrichment, active and healthy living, and environmental sustainability.
Now that has got to be some of the most ludicrous nonsense I have ever read. As anyone who has gone out and toured a little of Rancho Cucamonga lately can tell you, it has become a vast sprawling wasteland of cookie cutter condos and half vacant retail. About as Green as old cheese and spread as far as the eye can see. How that is going to improve anybody's mental or physical health is beyond me. It certainly isn't because anyone walks there, either. And if you don't believe me about this, go ask the banks that now have so much of that community on their books as bad debt and foreclosures. Happy acres it ain't.
If you wish to read more about Hogle-Ireland's fabulous awards and encomiums, feel free to click here.
http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com
There is a special developer need in this case. And that is because a local ordinance called "The Voters Empowerment Act" would allow the people of Sierra Madre to actually vote on the client's project. Something that is vehemently opposed by the city government of Sierra Madre, which has apparently somehow convinced the client (Fountain Square Development West) that they should be opposed to it as well. This despite the general popularity of their project.
In the tough cases like this you need to bring in a special company skilled in handling such delicate tasks. And the company hired for that job was Hogle-Ireland.
So how did they propose to work around the troublesome resident voting clause of Measure V? Apparently the mighty minds of Hogle-Ireland got together and cooked up a highly sophisticated and erudite strategy that would not only help beat the residents out of a voting right, it would also open the entire downtown area of Sierra Madre to the kinds of large-scale building projects the Downtown Investors Club has been dreaming of for years. Which was probably the point all along.
Hogle-Ireland have assumed that people here really don't care all that much about their right to review out-sized development through their vote, and all they would need to do is arbitrarily swap out a couple of words in the applicable ordinance and their work would be done. And in something called the "Mitigated Negative Declaration," Hogle-Ireland showed us what can be done for the kinds of handsome consultant fees they command.
"The proposed project is within the Central Core area, as defined by Section 17.35 of the Zoning Code. The project is consistent with requirements of this section with regard to applicable height limits (30 feet and two stories). The proposed assisted living facility is an institutional use, and therefore the project's intensity is not defined in terms of dwelling units per acre. As such (the) limits of Section 17.17.35.040 does not apply."
Pretty diabolical, eh? Rather than deal with the density restriction aspects of Sierra Madre law as it was written, Hogle-Ireland declared that the applicable ordinance language didn't really exist, and then went and arbitrarily made up some new stuff of their own. Just invented it right on the spot. The assumption being that the people of Sierra Madre would lack the will or sophistication to defend their right to vote in this case and, backed up by supportive elected officials, city staff and compliant taxpayer funded city attorneys, this could be made to stand.
And why not? I am sure strategies such as this have worked just fine in a lot of other cities. All you have to do is look around at the architectural disaster much of Southern California has become to understand that people really don't fight back very much against this kind of centrally planned and government dictated sort of stuff. Certainly cities like Downey and Rancho Cucamonga didn't become what they are today because the people living there actually wanted it, right?
So what exactly is Hogle-Ireland? Well, they are an award winning consultancy and planning corporation that has received accolades from none other than the Southern California Association of Governments (SCAG) and the American Planning Association (APA). And they got these fine awards for doing their part to help turn places like Downey and Rancho Cucamonga into some of the absolutely worst examples of the "stack and pack" generic design so favored by Sacramento and the various development and realty lobbies responsible for SB375.
Check this Hogle-Ireland award from SCAG out:
SCAG Compass Blueprint Awards - City of Downey - Downtown Specific Plan - Achievement in Livability Award: The Specific Plan establishes the Downtown as a vibrant urban center with dining, employment, housing, shopping, entertainment, and cultural opportunities all within a short walking distance of one another. ... A crucial aspect of the Specific Plan is the incorporation of a Park-Once Strategy designed to get residents out of their cars, and walking to reach multiple destinations within one trip, thereby reducing the dependence on automobiles.
Ah yes. Urban design as behavior modification. Get out of your car and walk, resident. You as a fallible citizen are not capable of making development decisions on your own, and Hogle-Ireland is here to fill the yawning gaps in your wisdom for you. Doesn't this sound a lot like the claims made for the Downtown Specific Plan that we stopped here 5 years ago? Anybody been to Downey lately? Would you be happy if our city ended up looked like that? Switch about 45 votes in the Measure V election and that is exactly what you'd be looking at today.
Here's another:
City of Rancho Cucamonga - General Plan - Comprehensive Planning Award of Merit: Large Jurisdiction: Unique to the Rancho Cucamonga General Plan is the "Healthy RC" theme, with goals and policies that inspires a lifestyle that embraces a healthy Mind, Body and Earth through lifelong learning and enrichment, active and healthy living, and environmental sustainability.
Now that has got to be some of the most ludicrous nonsense I have ever read. As anyone who has gone out and toured a little of Rancho Cucamonga lately can tell you, it has become a vast sprawling wasteland of cookie cutter condos and half vacant retail. About as Green as old cheese and spread as far as the eye can see. How that is going to improve anybody's mental or physical health is beyond me. It certainly isn't because anyone walks there, either. And if you don't believe me about this, go ask the banks that now have so much of that community on their books as bad debt and foreclosures. Happy acres it ain't.
If you wish to read more about Hogle-Ireland's fabulous awards and encomiums, feel free to click here.
So now you know what has been set loose upon us here by our City government. Hogle-Ireland. Watch as they try to help City Hall steal our right to vote on downtown development. Because apparently that is pretty much what they hope to accomplish here.
http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com
bringing "high-end" food trucks to Bradbury, how could one fault a consultant that would do that?
ReplyDelete...so they found them in the pubs laddie and that is good enough for me....another Guinness and the pope's consultant and we're good to go indeed...
ReplyDeleteI don't know which is worse, the shoddiness of their tactics, or the fact that they think we're stupid enough to fall for them.
ReplyDeleteCrawford, what you say is right on,however, the majority of voters are not really listening or understand what is at stake.
ReplyDeleteSierra Madre is about to be shafted.
It's business as usual.
All the council needs is to have it's one candidate win. You know, Moran's current roomy.
When did this bizarre transformation of municipal government going into the development industry start, and when did it become the fashion for developers to take great big chunks of cities as their territory to mold? It is, as you wrote Tattler, just plain ugly.
ReplyDeleteBilly Shields and his colleagues are footing the bill for this consultant, so they've got some deep pockets.
ReplyDeleteThat is what is so confusing. The ALF will get the votes it needs. So why is Fountain whatever so willing to risk everything in a local political squabble over a Sierra Madre planning law? What is their stake in that? There must be something else here.
DeleteCity Staff is pulling the strings of Fountain Square. Staff is having the developer do staff's dirty work. Much is at stake for Measure V and the downtown core. Why do you think they tried to change the definition of dwelling unit?
DeleteThe world is the DCC's oyster.
ReplyDeleteLove the "We're doing it for you! For your health and well being!" slant.
ReplyDeleteGlad to know they have our best interests at heart.
Yes. Everything these people do will save the earth, make people healthy, and give you the options to better your life. Stack and pack is the new Jesus.
DeletePaid for with the tax money of the people they screw.
ReplyDelete"Unique to the Rancho Cucamonga General Plan is the "Healthy RC" theme, with goals and policies that inspires a lifestyle that embraces a healthy Mind, Body and Earth through lifelong learning and enrichment, active and healthy living, and environmental sustainability..." read that this morning and thought I would puke.
ReplyDeleteFrank Zappa had a great term for that kind of shlock. "Cosmic debris."
DeleteDowney, Downey? We would want to look like Downey. Maybe in 1948 or 1953, but not NOW!
ReplyDeleteIt's a new take on an old theme: Manifest Destiny. The DCC's are divinely imbued with the insight to shape the world as they see fit. And there are plenty of areas in Southern California that show the messed-up results.
ReplyDeleteThere's an even better image of the kind of soul crushing over building these firms specialize in on their own site. Follow the link to Hog-Ire and check out the drawing for Downey's downtown. Four stories, folks, just the same kind that the Downtown Specific Plan consultants said Sierra Madre had to have to be profitable.
ReplyDeleteHog-Ire! My morning is made.
DeleteGood one 8:00 am!
DeleteNotice how often they use the word "unique" for that tired old stuff they peddle.
ReplyDeleteOf course. They call it unique because it is generic. Just like sprawling acres upon acres of condos is stopping sprawl.
DeleteLiars for hire. There are just so many of them.
ReplyDeleteThe higher the buildings the more potential stairs and the more potential exercise. God bless the Hogs for thinking of our health!
ReplyDeleteIf Rancho Cucamonga is Hog Heaven, why is it nobody wants to live there?
ReplyDeleteWell written guest editorial in LA Times today, page A12 on Redevelopment Agency program gone way wrong. Author was a LA CRA commissioner for 10 years.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Tattlers. The more "suites" they cram in the more profit they make. They don't want to follow Measure V, because they can make more money without it. And they won't build anything just because you think it's an "eyesore." I find it very easy to ignore. The only thing we "need" is Howie's Market back. Let the SNF sit as a reminder to developers to go to Cucamonga.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we keep saying that th ALF will get the votes it needs. Do you think the residents on Miramonte to the north will vote for this behemoth?
ReplyDeleteI would not vote for it in its current configuration.
Too large, too dense, to aggressive a use on Sierra Madre Blvd. directly across the street from our town's public service faclitly and park space.
And then there is the need for continued city support...where will they get the water they need while you and I still need some water, too.
John Gillison went to Rancho Cucamonga, and he is now the city manager there. I would think the stack 'n packers in town would want to follow him to the promised land.
ReplyDeleteSo did James Troyer, of the El Monte Planning department, He did a speech at Chery hill school and had drug out a thirty year letter pretending it was just sent, to try to force the people to yield to developers, (the place was crawling with crawling with Chinese developers) this was before 2005. I heard he resigned over it, but I think it was more of a getaway. Juan Mireles was the cuban cigar smoking city manager that sucked up to Leung, he knows where the missing money is (like Doyle) when he resigned out of the blue, poor little Mussenden took over. We know what happened to poor Mussenden, trolling for ladies of the night in Pomona. Dieter Dammier, POA attorney and activist, is in Rancho too.
DeleteOkay, Tattlers, spring into action! Print today's blog, distribute it to your neighbors. We must make people aware!
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody know if Hog-Ire had a stake in the DSP? Is this personal for them?
ReplyDeleteThe owners of the skilled nursing facility, who let it deteriorate so badly, had a stake in the DSP, doncha think?
DeleteThe consultants on the DSP were RBF. Not to say they couldn't be kissing cousins. Or well-networked.
Ah yes, John Gillison, like our mayor, he suffered from verbal diarrhea!
ReplyDeleteThe ALF is likely to be approved by the voters because any development on the skilled nursing home site would be construed by this town as an improvement.
ReplyDeleteAlso, at the last Planning Commission meeting there were several speakers who spoke against the City's plan's to circumvent Measure V. I think there were only two speakers who criticized the project itself.
We were not given the opportunity to talk about the project.
DeleteThat will happen on Feb 16th.
Poster 8:40.
ReplyDeleteWhere were those Miramonte residents during Measure V or when the Congs were building a school on Hermosa?
Sorry, but they're not coming out in droves to vote down the ALF.
I collected signatures for the Measure V petition. Arguably, the area which would have been most impacted by the DSP was around the intersection of Hermosa and Sierra Madre Blvd -- i.e., where they are planning on building the ALF.
ReplyDeleteNearly everybody I spoke to in that area was: too busy to sign my petition; thought Measure V would encourage chain drug stores to move into down; trusted John Buchanan; or liked Joe Mosca.
Needless to say, I dind't collect too many signatures from that area.
BTW, I collected hundreds of signatures in other parts of the town.
MaryAnn MacGillivray announced on her facebook page announced that ALF will be on the ballot in Nov.
ReplyDeleteWooooooooooooooooooooo Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWow!!!
ReplyDeleteWow!
Thank you Mary Ann MacGillivrey!
A real Measure V approval vote. I can think of a few folks who aren't happy about that. Binding vote, right? Anything advisory and I riot.
ReplyDeletePetite person, big power, that's MacGillivray.
ReplyDeleteThis is just amazing! Burchanan, Moron, Walsh, and Doyle lied to Bill Shields! They tried to throw a bone to Hogle-Ireland and missed! So, there goes their piece of the pie. Billy Shields and the folks at Kensington have done the right thing. There will still be those who oppose the Alfington but it will be on the merits not on a illegal move by the very people elected to fairly represent the interests of Sierra Madre.
ReplyDeleteThank you MaryAnn for sharing the news; thank you John Crawford for wasting no time getting the news out!
You scooped the Patch, Bill Coburn, and Terry Miller! That's why we read you first, JC.
ReplyDeleteA win for integrity is a beautiful thing.
ReplyDeleteYes it is 10:50, and she's the girl for the job.
DeleteA while back the City sent out a survey - on park usage I believe. One of the questions was "where do you get your news on what goes on in the city." I decided to tweak 'em, stating "where everyone else does, the Tattler." While a tweak, it was and remains true.
ReplyDeleteIt is incredible that without the Dunns and the forum provided by the Tattler it is likely that the ALF would have gone through without a vote. As I warned supporters of the DSP when Joe Mosca flipped, you are going to end up with measure v and a neutered council if you don't kill the DSP. and that is what we have. john buchannan presiding over yet another example of the council's impotence.
Let's wait to see what the wording on the ballot sez before we crack open the wine bottle.....
ReplyDeleteMany developers and local realtor's will be watching this closely, it means they may not find the profit margin worth the financial investment
ReplyDeleteNow it is up to the Planning Commission to look carefully at the impacts this project will have, such as parking, massing setbacks, heights,density, design standards, etc.
ReplyDeleteYes indeed. We will be watching.
DeleteAnd two new commissioners will be on the dais.
DeleteI feel so proud of our town!
ReplyDeletePublic Comment in Council Chambers is the best soapbox in town.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Downey, their community development director is mentioned in the Tran developer suing for 1.5 million story today. It seems the Mr Saeki, was in Rosemead, before he went to Downey..
ReplyDeleteThere is also a Cog shining apple report story, about Citygate and City gate seems to have Bob Doyle disease.. Citygate, Citygate, Hogle Ireland Hogle Ireland, jeez I am so sick of pass the sweet and sour shrimp consultants.
Actually, in a way you have to thank Mosca, Buchanan, and Doyle for forcing the people to have a Measure V initiative.
ReplyDeleteHad they not been so opposed to the people wishing to have a say, it would not have happened.
Life is truly ironic.
I hope they're not mad at Billy.
DeleteAh, but Mr. Shields continues to hold what they want. I don't think anyone has stopped whispering sweet nothings in his ear.
DeleteThe danger is Slosh Moran and Buchanan try and make this an advisory only vote.
DeleteIsn't that spelled out in the Law, the Measure itself?
DeleteI don't recall any monkey business around "a vote of the people," like "kind of a vote of the people," or in Buchanan speak, "An advisory's just as good."
By the time this gets to the City Council Moran will be Mayor. It would be folly to assume that he will push for anything approximating reason.
DeleteI hear that when Moran is mayor decisions will be based on spin the bottle.
DeleteMary Ann, you need to be congratulated !!!
ReplyDeleteWhy did MaryAnn cave and get a Facebook page?
ReplyDeleteYou haven't heard? It is now mandoatory in the State of California for every adult over the age of 21 to have a Facebook page. It is very controversial in some quarters. In order to prove that you have a Facebook page you will need to both "friend" and "like" Governor Jerry Brown. If you haven't done this yet, I suggest that you get cracking. The consequences are not pretty.
DeleteInsightful question 1:27. Why would anyone running for local office get a facebook page, of all things. Who would want the transparency, the opportunity to make policy positions crystal clear, to use social media for social purposes. The very idea.
DeleteQuickest and cheapest to reach 7,500 potential voters. Nobody wants to kill trees and spend thousands of dollars on glossy postcards when they can use social media to access households. Besides who wants to be innundated with mail?
DeleteMacGillivray is a good example of 'where there's a will, there's a way.'
ReplyDeleteMaryAnn MacGillivray is a good example for everyone in Sierra Madre.
DeleteHow lucky are we, that she is willing to serve us once again.
Vote for MaryAnn......her only agenda is fighting for US.
Patch finally has a story up on the vote. Good thing they read The Tattler.
ReplyDeleteI am very, very glad that I do not have to donate to the lawsuit that they were forcing us into. At least not yet.
ReplyDeleteWe get to vote on a project within the Measure V district, according to Measure V principals for the ALF!
ReplyDelete2 stories--check
30 feet in height--check
13 units per acre--Not Even Close, so vote NO!
That is unless Mr. Billy Shields and his cohorts get with the program and give Sierra Madre the development, that with the passage of Measure V, insures us balanced, sensitive, friendly, co-operative and appropriate downtown development for Sierra Madre.
30 feet in height measured from where, 2:58.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Elaine Aguliar the 30 feet could be measured from the original footprint, however they are lowering the site 3 1/2 feet for where the old SNF stands.
ReplyDeleteRemember hearing former City Administrator Jim MacRae jostle about with the way to measure height. Will be interesting to see if ALF plays this as smoke and mirrors, too.
ReplyDeleteWhat is good here is a Measure V vote will take place. The attempt to kill Measure V failed because the developer in question did not want to potentially sacrifice his project for the benefit of a bunch of jerky local big shots. Enjoy the moment.
ReplyDeleteStart over: 2 stories, check. 30 feet, who the heck knows where that is measured from. 13 units per acre...off by a large margin.
ReplyDeleteSo the SNF is what, 10 feet above street level? Take it down 3 1/2 feet, put two stories on it 30 feet tall, and hey presto it's 36 1/2 feet tall. It matters where you measure from.
DeleteHow tall are the Watts towers on E. Montecito? Surely we could match the measuring method to whatever was used for those?
ReplyDeleteSuch memroies. I remember reading something like this on Downtown Dirt. Since this was before Measure V --- how can it apply here?
DeleteDon't be a doofus. That project went up were before Measure V.
DeleteWhat are the Watts Towers? Are they good or bad?
DeleteThe so-called "Watts Towers" are just some BS the Sierra Madre haters pull out of their dirty lingerie drawer eveytime Measure V comes up. The entire canard is as dumb as they are.
DeleteDon Watts, who some of the people who post on this thread greatly admire, took a job as an architect for a building that many find ugly and too large. I would imagine that Mr. Watts himself might agree. But it was legally approved and built. What that shows you is how important well written zoning codes, general plans, and their enforcement, are. It is brought up by people who lack any relevant complaints, but want to say something nasty.
DeleteThere is the smell of sour cooking sherry on some of those posts, 5:23. That can only mean one thing. It's Lady Wistar.
DeleteOh I think there's more than one candidate 5:29. But you sure seem to like getting that name out there every day.
DeleteIF THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ...
ReplyDeleteHOW MANY DWELLING UNITS CAN I BUILD ON MY 1/2 ACRE PARCEL on ESPERANZA...?
LOOKS LIKE WERE ARE GOING TO HAVE HIGH RISE CONSTRUCTION IN SIERRA MADRE...
YOU DECIDE...
1. DO YOU WANT TO KISS THE CITY MANAGER(S) FEET
<<<<< OR >>>>>>
2. fire her....you gotta decide
<<<<< THE FINAL OUTCOME >>>>
1. The poor will be asked to leave town......
2. The current $24 MILLION DOLLAR city water department debt will have to increase to support all that expensive living.....
1/2 acre on Esperanza-- is it in the Measure V zone? Attached to Measure V are all the APN's for affected parcels. Maybe there could be a link put up here again (it was referred to in a Tattler last November).
ReplyDeleteAs the project is currently designed, we will vote NO.
ReplyDeleteLike the man said, Let's see the language of the proposal before calling it a win. Bucky couldn't do the right thing for money, marbles, or chalk, as Duffy Lewis used to say.
ReplyDeleteI say again the Parking to support this facility is woefullly inadequate. Residents, Residents Familys and Friends, Doctors, Nurses, Care Givers, Postal, Paramedics, Food, Laundry, Trash, Fedex, UPS,to name a few, will compete for parking spaces whose sizes are specified by code. Add in pick up and drop off space and the big one; Handicaped Spaces which are specified larger than normal spaces and require side space on both sides. Add it all up and what the Sierra Madre Planning Dept. has given approval is a "hoot" The ALF Parking Lot is going to be one fine little sardine can.
ReplyDelete7:58, and remember to throw the fire trucks, police cars and paramedics in the mix as they speed onto the street to go about their business.
ReplyDeleteDon Watts, during his time on the City Council (to which he should have been returned--stupid, stupid voters) mentioned several times that the building he designed for the client could have actually been taller according to the then current standards. He, in fact, talked the client into a building of reduced height. Because of that experience he knew that the reduced standards of Measure V, 2, 30, 13 were necessary to protect our downtown.
ReplyDeleteThe lies those people told about Don were horrifying. And what did we get in his place? Two very useless individuals.
DeleteYou need to know the basis of all of the AB 375, and AB 32 nonsense. Politician$ $uppport this stuff all the time. Green, Mind, Body, Earth, Essence. READ: My political juice come from the money and contributions these guys give me in political donations. They are my friends and my family invests in them. Lets tear down our downtown so my cousin or my buddy can build low and moderate housing, paid for by our tax paying homeowners. Lets tear everything down and rebuild it and make money. This is the Amerikan dream.
ReplyDelete