Wednesday, June 20, 2012

We're A Little Worried, Could This Year's 4th of July Parade Be Without Any Real Controversy?

I know it's hard to believe, but here it is June 20 and our yearly free-for-all over the 4th of July Parade has yet to begin. In the recent past there was Tai the Elephant and her friends from PETA, forcing kids fill out registration forms for "water play," the "Grand Marshall" versus "Hometown Hero" controversy (which was handled horribly last year), along with whether or not our World War II veterans should be given the chance to collectively share in one of this City's greatest honors. Which, regrettably, has yet to happen. All of which has generated a lot of reader interest here at The Tattler over the last several years.

But this year it has all been decidedly quiet. The community picnic, traditional after-parade fare, has been moved from Memorial Park to Sierra Vista Park, a place famed for its vast panoramic foothill views. There you will be able to play basketball, baseball, and a lot of other things that involve spherical objects. But almost everyone is OK with that. Sierra Vista Park, which is at both the end of the parade route and the end of this town, has served that purpose in the past.

Plus there will be the by now traditional "water play area." Bring your paperwork, a pen and, preferably, a qualified legal expert. Nothing new there, however. Old outrages become accepted standard practice in time.

There will also be our famous dunk tank, where noted political and business figures from the local firmament will permit you to drop them into a large bucket of water for a small donation to charity. Always plenty of yucks to be had there, I guess.

But where is the controversy? What happened to our yearly tradition of engaging burning issues that roil the community in a most fascinating sort of way? Can't somebody at least ask about putting a rhinoceros, or perhaps even a giant sloth or tapir, in the parade?

Of course, the traditional yearly parade schedule mailer has yet to show up in our mailboxes, so I haven't completely lost hope. At least not yet. But the possibility of a Sierra Madre 4th of July Parade sans some monumental controversy or other does seem to be a distinct possibility this go around. It is eerily quiet on that front. To this observer a parade without political fireworks somehow feels, well, a little bit south of patriotic.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Today's Star News article on the Taylor's vs. Fresh & Easy controversy

All in all a good performance from news writer James Figueroa (click here), and it pretty much captures the debate that has been going on in this community during the last few weeks. Should we stick with a business that has admirably served our community over these last 40 years, or just chuck all that in favor of the pale green shrine to processed frozen food and bulk salty snacks? One owned by a British variety of Wal*Mart, complete with the union busting?

Of course, Fresh & Easy does claim to be "green." But then again, who doesn't these days? Even British Petroleum, who almost single-handedly took out the Gulf of Mexico a couple of years back, is now touting its environmental sensitivity. Somehow I get the feeling that if Benito Mussolini were to suddenly rise feet first from the grave to lead his New Legions back onto the battlefield, he would claim to be doing so in order to reestablish the green building standards of the Roman Empire.

Danny Castro makes an appearance in this article, and look who he blames for our Fresh & Easy debacle.

"During our general plan community meetings ... there were comments that our downtown needs a neighborhood market, or a market that's local," he said. "Not specifically a Fresh and Easy, but we've had comments from the public saying we need our own market."

Out of all the things that were said at the General Plan Community Outreach shindigs, why is this the only one that has gotten any traction at City Hall?

Then there is this rather philosophically irksome statement from a resident:

"The town needs commerce, it needs people," (a customer at Taylor's) said. "This is like the town that time forgot. I'm for progress."

I don't know about you, but I'm rather in favor of living in a town that time forget. Particularly when you consider the unkind fate of all those towns that time remembered. Plus would building this kind of testament to Euro-generica really be progress? Is decline, which coincidentally does occur in the forward movement of time (along with all things), progress? Or can progress actually be the stubborn refusal to give up on a better world by resisting the encroachment of, well, a prevalent inferiority that happens to have come into existence recently and is everywhere else?

All is not without at least some hope, however. And the true spirit of Sierra Madre always does somehow manage to rise above the bilge. Here is someone that I need to talk to:

Taylor's customers have been expressing their displeasure about the plans in recent weeks, employee Melissa Guzman said, and there has even been some talk about a petition.

I don't know about you, but I own a pen. And it hasn't signed anything lately but credit card slips. Time to put it to some better use.

http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

112 comments:

  1. Look on the bright side, Crawford. At least we're not having to decide if the F&E Market contains "dwelling units."

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  2. Fortunately for us, it is a whole new Committee this year for the 4th of July, one who listened to the public instead of their ego. The activities in the park sound like a real celebration for families.

    We should be careful what we wish for as far as a market where the Green Frog used to be. This is privately owned property and they should be allowed to do what they want there of course within limits of city code. But it could be worse than a Fresh and Easy.

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    1. I heard things were so bad last year that the head of the 4th of July committee had to leave the country.

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    2. Yes, but we could also do a lot better than a Fresh and Easy. Our standards should be higher than just, "well, at least it isn't 6 story condos."

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    3. Unfortunately for foodies everywhere, a Fresh and Easy, as unfresh as it is, is preferable to an abandoned building.

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    4. That is why they will make the perfect tenant for the Albertson's site. Fortunately for us we have Taylor's Fresh Meats!

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  3. The Sierra Madre 4th of July Parade committee wants your money, they could get it right this year!
    4th of July Committee
    PO Box 1073
    Sierra Madre, CA 91025

    They are a little Elephant Gun shy from the last debacle led by Matt Bossepants and Kathy Childs. Additionaly Sierra Madre Pedifile Film Buff Bob Matheson local has not been banned from Sierra Madre's children's events because as he said to Sierra Madre's own police chief "there are two sides to every story". He will probably not be sporting his kilt so keep your kids close or even better dont go where pedifiles are allowed to sign a form and have water play time with your kids, its clearly up to you.

    Here are the details on Matheson if you are unaware of the danger to your children at all Sierra Madre events.

    http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com/2012/03/sierra-madre-had-months-to-prepare-for.html

    Neuroblast Films

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    1. Instead of "Where's Waldo," someone needs to create a "Where's Bob" game.

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    2. You used to be able to play that on sierramadrenews.net, but they have purged the Matheson pics.

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    3. Looks like Rooster is trying to rewrite history.

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    4. I hear Bob is out at the Chamber of Commerce as well.

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    5. They're such fair weather friends at the Chamber.

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    6. Yeah 1 little international arrest for trafficking thousands of pedifile films stories and pics, and nobody wants to "publicly" be his friend anymore.

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    7. Very fickle those people.

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  4. Who just settled for F and E?June 20, 2012 at 6:53 AM

    And, what about our beloved Albertson's? Much more there and greater bargains. I was told many people have lost their jobs because of mis-management. The owner of the property seems to not care a hank about the property and the lease is up the end of July. All those shops with good hard working people who may be out of a job because of a greedy land lord......

    Petition signing both ends of Sierra Madre ought to be happening.....

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    1. Don't know if this is true, but I've heard that the Albertson's place is owned by a businessman who lives out of the country, and that he intentionally keeps it in that state as a tax write off.

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  5. Will the Albertson's petition beg the landlord to "keep the plaza just the way it is." That is, dumpy?

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    1. Maybe Fresh and Easy should go there. That property is safely over the Pasadena line.

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    2. Landlord of Albertson's also owns section 8 apartment to the north of property! I thought they had a donut shop on the premisses because Pasadena police were there so often!

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  6. There should be a cow in the parade as a way of demonstrating Mother Moo's loss.

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    1. I nominate this as the theme for the SM City College float

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  7. I'm surprised that Fresh and Easy finds the location economically feasible.

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    1. Will they go head to head with Billy and let you sample their wine? As long as we're now allowing international corporations to come into town and crush our local shops.

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    2. Will F&E get an opportunity to take a peak at the Buxton books?

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    3. There's a thought. Fresh and Easy probably carries many of the items Buxton found to be unavailable in Sierra Madre. Maybe we should ask for our money back.

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    4. Before a person enters Billy's wine tasting room in the liquor store. One should at the very least GOOGLE "wine tasting room" to see what one should look like.

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  8. F & E will be a big hit - until people actually start ingesting the goods. Then there's bound to be a drop-off. But still, Castro is right - the residents want a market there. Something cheaper than Taylors.

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    1. Taylor's food is good for you. Fresh and Easy's stuff is going to give people a fat attack.

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    2. Does Sierra Madre have an endocrinologist? Yet?

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    3. Why yes we do, its here at the Tattler. John Crawford has been working on the cancer deeply rooted in Sierra Madre, known as the Dirts.

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  9. Why can't Taylor's go back to being a butcher shop only, and stay?

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  10. Will drive fro great meat?June 20, 2012 at 7:51 AM

    Where is the other Taylor's?

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  11. I'm enjoying my 70's flashback today. Pres. Obama channeling his inner Nixon and invoking executive privilege.

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    1. National politics doesn't really exist. Those guys are just actors, and it is all filmed on a sound stage. Kind of like the moon landings in the 1970s.

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    2. I know what ya mean, just like W did 6 times and Clinton did 13 times....

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  12. When you buy from a mom and pop business, you are not helping a CEO buy a third vacation home.

    You are helping a little girl get dance lessons, a little boy get his team jersey, a mom and dad put food on the table, a family pay a mortgage, or a student pay for college.

    Taylors and many of the other small businesses in town have treated their customers well over the years. Let's continue to promote small business.

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  13. In keeping with city hall's line that they want to promote small businesses, which they really started to emphasize after they just about doubled the cost of a small business license, how about if the city helps Taylor's relocate someplace in town? Remember those incentives Aguilar was talking about? Let's see an incentive to keep a fine, long-standing business.

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    1. All they want is chain retail. That's where the bucks are.

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  14. The sad fact... Taylors will be forced out, (hopefully Mr. Taylor relocates in town, but you can't blame him if he just closes the door. However he is very loyal to his employees, so it wouldn't surprise me if he tries to make the move)but I seriously doubt that Fresh & Easy can make it in Sierra Madre. When it fails, Sierra Madre will be left with a blighted corner that will be the first impression upon arriving to Sierra Madre, whether it is home or as a visitor. It is just the Dirt's first attempt to "Condo Corner"!!!

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    1. I think you are right. Fresh + Easy has a track record of opening and closing markets. They can afford to do that because the buildings they build are cheap.

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    2. No matter what you think of Taylors I think it is a safe bet that it will not be around in its present location or any location in Sierra Madre in the next 5 years or sooner . We can all wish for something better but there may not be anything better to be found .

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    3. To relocate costs thousands of dollars, hassles with the City for permits, CUP, and other unforeseen cost, and Health Department delays.
      Why would anyone want to open a business in this town. You are guaranteed little business and will be hounded by every organization to donate to their cause. If he wants to relocate, he should try San Marino or La Canada.

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    4. San Marino shakedown is worse

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    5. So let's get all that incentive talk into reality, and give Taylor all the breaks he needs.

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  15. Aguilar should be fired!!! Since her arrival, all of the City's fees have increased ten fold. Elaine's actions are only to promote herself for her next job. I thought she was already out the door? My question is, why is she still here? She has done nothing for small businesses only hurt their chances for success. Remember the roach coach carnival? Our town is a City Manager run government where we are forced to behave and act on her decisions, especially when they are bad for the majority. The only way to have incentives in this town is to be a Dirt or one of the Selective Few, or Elaine's family member.

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    1. Tell the council.
      They are the ones who hire and fire city managers.

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  16. https://www.facebook.com/4thofJulyInfo

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  17. Anyone that buys fruits and veggies at the farmer's market is anti Taylor's and pro Fresh and Easy. What youth groups has the Farmer's Market supported in the last year? All Little League parents should boycott the FM and shop at Taylor's.

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    1. Where does Taylor's source their beef?

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  18. What mom and pop market has wanted to open a store in Sierra Madre? Howies couldn't make it with their type of marketing, what makes you all think that someone else could. We asked for a market, and one might be coming in. If you all work hard to make sure the building fits into our town, at least the facade, then lets see how it works. Or are you so vindictive that you don't want the investors make a go if it?
    Honest to Pete, some bloggers here are really out of touch with reality. How about Mary's Market moving in there? Would you be satisfied then? I love Taylors. I've bought meat from Taylor since 1965 (used to buy a side of beef and have a freezer full all year long). Can't now, can't afford it, but times change, and we all knew he might have to leave that site sooner than later.

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    1. Mary's Market is no longer a market. Hasn't been for some time. Cuppa coffee? Fine. Oatmeal or breakfast muffin? Order 'em up. Last time I was in there no bread, no milk, no beer, no wine, no catfood, no coffee, no, no, no. Carolyn works hard and puts out a good product but no one goes to Mary's to buy groceries.

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    2. I love Taylor's as much as the next carnivore but Don Taylor is Taylor's Old Fashion Meats. Seriously he might just retire. But Fresh & Easy isn't the answer. Remember Roess'? Remember Green Frog/Howies? Prepare to remember Albertson's. It's all about cheap foods and only large scale big box retail can buy in the quantities needed to get the discounts. F&E represents a new business model: locate at least a mile away from any other markets, no more strip malls, own the building. A bodega if you will.

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  19. When some was asking about where to buy TP in town a while back Mary's Market was mentioned. Someone knew there really wasn't much in the way of groceries or TP there any more.

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    1. Hope someone can recognize tongue and cheek when they see it re: Mary's Market. O.K, lets pull a Josh Moran and urge boycotting F & E so they will not bring in any taxes or make it as a business. That'll show 'em.

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  20. FnEz would probably do a fair business by default. When they were coming into California they looked around To see where they could compete with the Wal-Mart type shoppers. In the old Vons they first opened up with the entire facility and now half of it is "plastic world" Dollar Store. If they really do try to open in Sierra Madre they should use the store as it now stands. If Taylor's owner is not ready to retire what about the now empty Bistro that is not configured well for a restaurant but might do well for a butcher.

    I forget, why did Howies close? Didn't have something to do with retirement, building being sold, what?

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    1. They were never going to take over the whole Vons location . It was divided into 2 from the start

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    2. Howies closed because the owner sold it.

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  21. The Resident Flyer is on it's way, in the meantime here are some details for your readers: (sorry no controversy, we are working hard to keep this event inspired by our love for our country, community and to honor those who have fought for our freedom)

    SIERRA MADRE 4th OF JULY CELEBRATION

    July 3rd - 5:00 pm –10:00 pm
    Pre Parade Party & Picnic

    5:00 pm Memorial Park opens for Events

    Beer Garden - Non-Profit Booths - Food Trucks
    7:00 pm -9:30 pm - Local band Groovy Lemon Pie
    8:00 pm Bubble Wrap Fireworks

    July 4th - 7:30 am – 9:30am
    The Spero Foundation’s
    2nd Annual Fire Cracker Fun Run

    July 4th - 10:00am -12:00pm
    The Sierra Madre Annual 4th of July Parade

    July 4th - 12:00pm – 4:30pm
    FREE SHUTTLE to the Community Picnic @ Sierra Vista Park
    3 stops on Sierra Madre Blvd.


    July 4th - 12:00pm – 4:00pm
    Community Picnic & Celebration

    SMLL Diner BBQ
    Non-Profit Booths
    Family Games
    Free Swim @ the Pool
    Beer Garden
    Community Games
    Music from Gem City Jazz Cats
    Home Run Derby
    Bounce Houses
    Basketball
    Restored Volleyball Court

    1:00 pm - Community Games

    We look forward to celebrating with you all.

    Thank you,

    The Fourth of July Committee

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    1. What about the rumors of synchronized marching aardvarks? I heard someone at Starbucks talking about that.

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    2. Unfortunately the synchronized marching aardvarks were already booked for another event lol!

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    3. Damn. That flag display thing they do is astonishing.

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    4. As an attendee last year, I would HIGHLY recommend having a hard surface under the bubble wrap for the 'fireworks'. Last year it was just rolled out onto the grass, and was not nearly as loud and effective as in previous years.

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    5. Thank you for the advice. Dance floor is back this year!

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  22. I expect lots of people here have never been to the Arcadia Fresh and Easy. Why would you if you are already down there you head for Ralphs on the swing back from Trader Joes.

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  23. Random Issues:

    1. I changed my Verizon billing address to my office. Will this take me off the SM UUT roles?

    2. I love Taylor's. The people that work there are awesome. Fresh & Easy is cold and heartless.

    3. I remain in favor of bringing the ELEPHANT back for the parade. Lacking a use I suspect he may have been put to death. Econ 101: Create a market for something (an animal) and you have lots of it. Think cows. Kill the market for something and you have little of it. Think elephants. If PETA wanted lots of them they would work to create a world wide tusk market.

    4. Now that Chief Diaz is out of office, can I shoot her with a water gun? Or will she try to cap me if I do?

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    1. I vote we get everyone to take squirt guns to the parade and use them as they are intended. Banning squirt guns was one of the dumbest things I have seen in a while.

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    2. Fresh and Easy is not cold and heartlesss. I just stand there looking bewildered at check out and a friendly someone is there in an instant to check me out, take my money and bag my groceries. I don't go in there very often because by habit, I go to Ralphs where I have been shopping since they opened there.

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    3. 12:08, the minimum wage earning, non-union helpers at F & E are the ones with the hearts. The corporate offices? Maybe not so much.

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    4. To the folks back at the corporate office it is all about budgets and the numbers on a computer screen.

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  24. I like Taylors. Great meat. But the selection of produce and other stock items just doesn't cut it, and of course prices on basics like milk, eggs, butter is really high at Taylor's. And the hours of operation leave a lot to be desired. I work full-time, and most days I am not even IN Sierra Madre when they are open. Then there is a huge section of the building closed up and not even used. More products, more variety could all go in that area and make the market truly viable. I do not want to see the building torn down. With a little work, it could be a vibrant market. But of course, that takes capital, and people these days either don't have it, or aren't risking it.

    I will not support a F&E, will sign petitions against, and will not shop there. With the labor issues they have had here in the states, I refuse to support them at all. I don't want cheap pre-packaged, wrapped in plastic food. I want real healthy, non-GMO, organic food. Stuff that I am not afraid to feed to my children. If that was available locally, I would be all over it and support that 1000%. But F&E? Nope, not so fresh, and nothing easy about it.

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  25. FnEz has their little brown boring labels on too many packages (self- packaging or repackaging) and you don't know the source. I really do want to know if my food was grown in a DDT-free environment. If you buy food at Big Lots and other such stores ( food from 99 cent store also questionable) you better read labels, lots from China repackaged, where ever? Won't buy it after the scandal with the melamine in the dog food and the baby formula. Same goes for plastic food storage and serving items made in China. Outgassing of plastic chemicals over which there is poor or no controls. Found spices at Big Lots one time, Canadian import in big print, made in China tiny print elsewhere. I violated their return policy so I just gave it back to the manager.

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  26. It's easy, 1:00, to tell if your food came from DDT-free countries.

    If the residents of that country have malaria, and there are malaria-carrying mosquitoes, then they don't have DDT.

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    1. Not right 1:41. The developing nations are allowed DDT because the need to produce crops outweighs the destructiveness of the poison.

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    2. That is kind of goofy, 1:41. We stopped using DDT in this country because it was discovered to be killing off the bald eagle population. Do you have malaria?

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    3. No, but I know a number of people who picked up malaria in Africa and C. America.

      I don't believe that DDT is used anywhere. Goodness knows one could eradicate malaria from Africa is they did use it.

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  27. Food Trucks at the 4th of July festivities? Are we trying to put the local restaurants out of business faster? There ought to be a way to permit the local restaurants to set up shop at these events.

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    1. Do food trucks have to get a permit to set up here? And if not, how did City Hall miss that one?

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    2. They do have to get permits and it is very expensive, both from the City, the County Health Dept. and pay fees to the Committee. We are big supporters of local businesses and local non profits. that is the reason we volunteer to put on this event. But, due to the recent changes in the LA County Health Department requirements it made very difficult if not impossible for non profits to sell food(that is not pre-packaged) at these type of events. However, the committee did make arrangements to make sure the non profits still had a fundraising opportunity at the 4th of July activities this year. Some of our local restaurants are participating by selling pre-made picnic baskets, or supporting a local non profit through a donation of food and/or drinks for their booths. Most local restaurants do not have staffing to have their business open & participate with a booth. The idea of bringing in the Food Trucks is to help pay for the permitting and the event itself as well as feed the community after the local business have closed for the night. A portion of their sales will go back to the Committee to pay for the events. Keep in mind this event cost around $15,000.00 and the Committee of unpaid volunteers raises that money every year so that the community can enjoy the 4th of July Parade and Activities.

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  28. Ha, Ha, Ha no telling where this blog is going to take us. DDT? Malaria? All at Fresh and Easy Corporate offices I bet.

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    1. The Tattler welcomes all streams of consciousness.

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    2. or unconsciousness.

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  29. Conciousness is a stream. Unconsciousness is a river.

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  30. Let me see...If a property owner wants to build a commercial market in a commercial zone and it conforms to code - people will still sign a petition against a F&E store that they don't have to patronize. Mind you, the same people don't own that property. Very confusing.

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    1. Look it up in the Bill of Rights.

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  31. Divorce, split Howies Market. I believe that the new owner of this corner also owns Prudential Realty. Instead of facade's for improvement a wise investor/landlord with a heart looking forward to a long business lease with a rent controlled corner; would still do well in this town.

    As to the Fourth of July. Glad to see a cost savings with the Port o Potty's being placed in the park instead of lining the streets of Ramona ave. It should be a very nice year for the parade; AND LETS HONOR THE VETS.

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    1. Even better some portable bathrooms & all of the fencing was donated by S & S Portable Services. In addition we received a generous donation Athens Services. We are very grateful to our sponsors.

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  32. Mind you these are the same people that poke fun at our Mayor because he once boycotted our business district. Very confusing.

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    1. Sadly, judging by the state of our downtown shopping district it appears that Josh Moran's business boycott is now well into it's 8th year.

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    2. the only businesses Moran didn't consider boycotting were the bars

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  33. Petitions...Petitioning your government .... basic democratic activity that in this country does not lead to arrest ... Not so elsewhere around the world.

    Petition of support for Taylor's is the way I read the story. Expected outcome...I don't know. Is there a petition yes?

    I read an earlier post questioning why F and E would even consider this corner of the grocery buying population. Have they shown lots of card swipes in Arcdia that traced back to us and our great buying power. Just think of all the congestion coming in to town from all those F and E fans in Highland Oaks and Hasting Ranch, Singing Oaks, too.

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  34. Lets see we can't go to Fresh and Easy for various reasons on this blog . We have to Boycot the farmers market and the food trucks because they may take buisnes from others, We cant go to Marys market because they may have voted for somebody we don't like. Mother Moo is to expensive to go too. Sounds like great ideas to me

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    1. Oh c'mon, you can go anywhere you want. Don't let the opinions of others get in the way of you doing whatever it is you want to do. And if you are having a hard time making up your mind, I can suggest a couple of places that you ought to go.

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    2. What's the other place? I can only think of one.

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    3. 5:53, who's "we"?

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    4. Never mind, 6:43.
      5:53 is into some kind of lockstep thinking.

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  35. Josh Moran's call for a boycott was really an attack on the free press...he wanted folks to boycott businesses that advertised in Katina Dunn's (and then S. Henderson's) newspaper. During the supermarket checker's strike I did not cross the picket line, a form of a boycott. Trader Joes picket up and retained a lot od customers. I go back to Ralphs now.

    Google Fresh and Easy Marketing Strategy and you will see the plan thy have as of April 2012 is not to expand. Then if you google Fresh and Easy Arcadia you see customers' comment and find that some folks like it and some don't.

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    1. And then there's this:
      http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/10/business/la-fi-fresh-and-easy-tesco-20120410

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    2. Hey Tattler, stop the presses! 6:18 has a news flash.

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    3. Unfortunately for Josh the free press has a sense of humor.

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  36. Regarding the elephant scandal, I wouldn't be surprised if they would try it again this year. Their loose lipped cronies spilled the beans, in time for animal lovers to react. Would you put it past them again? Maybe a call should be put into PETA just in case!

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    1. I'm hearing rumors of a kangaroo banjo band with 4 dancing chickens. Pretty dependable source, too.

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    2. Ohmigod! You mean Joey and the Jumpers?

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  37. Just a thought here. Fresh and Easy typically builds out a stand alone building of 12,000 square feet. In many of them, a smaller space is advertised to be sub-let. Maybe Taylor's Meat can sub let a space from FnE. It may be a conflict as they both will be selling meat though. Probably a bad idea for both.

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  38. Sierra Madre's biggest enemy to growth and community development is its citizens itself. I go to this blog often and all I read is negative comments. My guess here is that many of the readers are long time residents of SM and want to keep the town like it was here in the 50's and 60's. This is just not reality. It would be nice but our businesses cant make a go at it here. I question how some of the businesses survive. My guess is that they break even and its a source of tax write off for their income tax returns. By boycotting businesses is only a sure recipe for larger projects to come in and take over. Sure must be unhappy to be so vindictive and hateful and suspicious all the time.

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    1. OMG! Steve's got his cousin posting! Look, we're not interested in growth and community development. We want what we want. Take your progressive ideas and move to San Dimas or Rialto.

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    2. Ask the long time business owners how they do it.
      Or does that also strike you a negative comment?

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    3. So that's the problem in Sierra Madre: long time residents, those people who created and preserved the town. Out with the long timers!

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    4. 2:02, "I go to this blog often and all I read is negative comments." ?
      You may want to rethink your reading choices.

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  39. 2:02 - only person I've ever heard of trying to organize a boycott in Sierra Madre is our current Mayor.

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  40. come on this reverts back to Beth Buck and her outlandish rants that a big box pharmacy was going to move into Taylors

    Fresh and Easy isn't moving into Taylors - it makes absolutely zero sense and there isn't enough of a customer base in Sierra Madre

    Sierra Madre isn't isolated and removed from civilzation, this "small town" chatter is absolute nonsense because there are millions and millions and millions of people living within an hour of Taylors and nobody will drive into Sierra Madre and pass up hundreds of grocery stores to shop in Sierra Madre

    lol 3:50 - you've got that right - our esteemed Mayor once advocated a boycott of Sierra Madre businesses just because they advertised in a paper he disagreed with and affected his checkbook - which is another reason why he can never be trusted to be honest and unbiased - he's looking out for himself peddling reverse mortgages and protecting his Mom who sells for his friends at Webb-Martin who supported the website that Moran called for the boycott

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  41. I love Fresh and Easy - no lame conversations with cashiers and people standing in line. And the self check out system at Vons and Ralphs are slow because I have to be a cashier and look up all the produce codes - Fresh and Easy has it down pat - in and out with minimal hassles.

    Some of their prepared food items I don't care for but that's the same for Trader Joes

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  42. WHAT????????

    Do you mean that Sierra Madre has actually improved in an area since Joe Mosca and Matt BossyPants moved?

    Less conflicts and an immediate decline in "management drama" with the Parade?

    Could there be a connection between the lack of whiny men clamering for attention and Mosca/BossyPants moving?

    You mean we are actually able to survive without their massive civic contributions and attention seeking behavior?

    Call me shocked and amazed.

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