Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Tattler Exclusive: Sierra Madre Police Officers' Association Sues the City of Sierra Madre

(Mod: If you have been reading the City Council meeting agendas over the past few months you will have noticed that there has been a lot of interplay in the closed sessions between the SMPOA, Sierra Madre's city staff negotiating team and concerned elected officials. Alas, apparently things haven't worked out quite as well as most would have hoped because it looks like the SMPOA has now filed yet another lawsuit against us. Which, if so, is pretty standard misbehavior for these guys. First they ask for more money and benefits, next they claim we're not being very nice to them, and then they sue us. Very schizophrenic. So through the kind intercession of invisible hands I have obtained a copy of the document as filed by the POA's Michael A. McGill, a partner in the law firm Lackie, Dammeier & McGill. Who, by the way, are the guys who really call the shots for the SMPOA, despite the erroneous information you may have heard during our recent election. Here is the "Unfair Practice Charge" statement filed with the Court in full.)

The City of Sierra Madre ("City") has violated Government Code Sections 3500 et seq. by violating its duty to meet and confer in good faith. More specifically, City has violated sections 3502 (right to participate in union), 3502.1 (retaliation against employee), 3505.4 (implementation of last, best and final offer), and 3506 (discrimination prohibited).

The City and the Sierra Madre Police Officers' Association ("SMPOA") have been in the process of meeting and conferring over a successor memorandum of understanding governing all matters relating to employment conditions and employer-employee relations, including, but not limited to, wages, hours, and other terms and conditions of employment. In doing so, the SMPOA and its members representing SMPOA during these contract negotiations, have exercised their rights under Government Code 3502.

The parties met and the City provided its last, best, and final offer. Prior to imposition in December 2011, SMPOA would receive holiday hours in a bank for time off and then cash out at the end of the year. The holidays would accrue on the day of the holiday. SMPOA received holidays for July 1, 2011 through imposition in December 2011 in accordance with this practice. During negotiations, there was no explanation that this was going to be changed in any way and holidays were not a topic of discussion at negotiations. The City's last best and final did not include anything about changing holidays. However, after imposition, the City decided to not pay holidays for the remainder of the fiscal year; thus POA was only paid for 48 hours and not the remaining 56 hours.

The City may impose its original last, best and final offer -- to the extent its provisions are legal -- after exhausting the impasse procedures. However, the City may not implement a last, best and final offer that it unilaterally revised/modified during the impasse procedures so as to include terms and conditions of employment substantially more detrimental to the SMPOA than those under its original last, best and final offer. See Govt Code 3505, 3505.4.

Furthermore, the City's actions are designed to retaliate and discriminate against SMPOA, its members, and its elected officials for exercising their rights to collectively bargain, form and participate in union activities. More specifically, the City has violated sections 3502 (right to participate in union), 3502.1 (retaliation against employee), 3505.4 (implementation of last, best, and final offer), and 3506 (discrimination prohibited). In addition, SMPOA reserves its rights to amend this charge to include additional violations.

The SMPOA requests, as a remedy for the City's actions, all of the following: (1) that the implementation of the last, best and final offer be rendered null and void and set aside, and any monies collected under the last, best, and final offer be paid back to the employees; (2) that the City be compelled to comply with the MMBA, by not implementing the terms proposed it its (sic) last, best, and final offer; (3) that the City be precluded from retroactively implementing any terms that detrimentally effect the SMPOA; (4) that the City be required to post notice that its conduct violated the MMBA; and (5) that the City be ordered to reimburse the SMPOA for all attorneys fees and costs incurred in this matter.

(So let's see if I have this right. The City of Sierra Madre has been paying the SMPD at the end of the year for any untaken vacation time. A practice that doesn't exist in private industry, by the way. But now that this unusually generous practice has been discontinued, the SMPOA's legal handlers have launched a lawsuit against the City of Sierra Madre. Be interesting to see if any Court verdict comes before or after we have begun our negotiations with other law enforcement agencies.)

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127 comments:

  1. All for a Police Department that does nothing except write tickets. Sierra Madre is Ticket Town USA. The best way to kill our Businesses is to keep our police. It is time to support our businesses, our people and our town's way of life and dump, replace or fire the ticket writers and hire a real police department. We can save over 1.5 million by replacing our current police department. Time to make the change and reduce our debt and legal costs.

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    1. I refuse to shop in Sierra Madre because of the police oppression. I will make all my purchases in nearby customer friendly communities. The Sierra Madre Police Department will write you a traffic ticket in a heartbeat for any "imagined" infraction. Get yourself a scanner and listen to their antics.
      Sierra Madre Police Department: 153.8450 Mhz.

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  2. Look at the time and no one has posted a single word. Is this a sign of how fearful of the local Peace Officers the public is. When the people you hire to protect you seam like they are turning on you, what do you do? Looks like you don't say a word for fear of more reprisals and lawsuits that will just break the city financially, just makes ya sick.

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    1. Little bit trigger happy?

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  3. We don't need 53% of our General Fund to be Ticket Town.

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  4. How many Tattler readers opened today and said to themselves, for gawd's sake...where to start?

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    1. Good question. Ballot initiative? Cap the amount of General Fund money allowed to be spent on the SMPD at 25%?

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    2. Cap the amount and the police will go on strike. I'm afraid there's nothing for it but to get rid of the whole department.

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    3. Let them go on strike. 95% of their duties can be carried out by security guards.

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    4. What's the 5% security guards couldn't do?
      As soon as anything serious happens, other departments are called in.

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    5. I think we would be better off without a police department at all. Here's your chance to start volunteering Sierra Madre, just like in the old days when we kept City Hall administration to a minimum along with all the headaches associated with lazy, ungrateful employees.

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  5. Sierra Madre is such tough duty, such a hotbed of difficult challenges, that the officers must have every perk possible to make it tolerable to work here.

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    1. One of the biggest problems the SMPD faces on a daily basis is getting into their uniforms.

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    2. " . . . before or after we have begun our negotiations with other law enforcement agencies." Is this a promise or a prayer?

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  6. So which quality has our police force shown more, arrogance or ingratitude?

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  7. Hello La Canada, could we please borrow your agreement with the Sheriff?

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  8. What a complete waste of time and money. Get rid of the Police and go with the Sheriff. Enough.

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  9. Sheriffs. Save a million a year and we don't have to set aside huge sums of money for benefits and retirement. Plus we lose the Ticket Town Truants. Where is the downside?

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  10. The relationship the SMPD has with us is a parasitic one.

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  11. I don't see how anything short of martial law and a standing national guard presence could bring order to these mean streets.

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  12. I'm really sorry to see how your delightful small town is being financially consumed now by:

    Expensive city legal firms that run up bills for development work
    City Manager that is out of control, running up costs
    Police Department that sues constantly in spite of high pay
    Police Department that doesn't do any work for the community and hands out tickets
    City Hall staff that works on behalf of developers instead of laws passed by residents

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  13. The absolute worst service from any Sheriff would be a huge improvement over these greedy policemen.

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    1. One Sheriff's Deputy would probably accomplish as much work during a 12 hour shift as 3 Sierra Madre Police officers. Who knows? Maybe even more.

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    2. The point 10:43 pm is that there isn't enough work for 3 Sierra Madre Police officers. A dispatched sheriff could respond in minutes instead of hanging at the police station with the cadets. We don't need a force of two dozen.

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    3. @ 11:14

      I believe that's the same "point" 10:43 was making, just in a different way.

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  14. Many of our officers suffer from repetitive motion disorders brought on by excessive ticket writing.

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  15. Interesting news item this morning. City of San Fernando is going to recall the majority of councilmembers who do not work on behalf of the residents who elected them.

    http://www.recallsanfernando.com/

    If our current city council does not take the correct steps to get rid of all this waste, we have the option to do the same thing.

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    1. We always have the option of recall - except when we don't. There are constraints including the willingness of the citizenry to circulate petitions and the voting public to sign the petitions. Not to mention the statutory time limits on the recall process.

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    2. Recall takes all kinds of leadership and effort.

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  16. I think our police department is doing all this so Sierra Madre would go to the Sheriff Department. Think about it, if SM goes to the Sheriff all the officers would get a raise and a better pension system. Not to mention they could get a station that might be closer to their homes. Why cant we quit wasting time and money and give them what we all want, the Sheriff's Department protecting us and saving the city a lot of money. Seems like a no-braine.

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    1. They're doing it on purpose, or they are so oblivious of the community they supposedly serve that they are shooting themselves in the foot.

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    2. One problem with that theory is the fact that none of the officers on the Sierra Madre Police Department meet the standards to become a Sheriff's Deputy. If they did, they would have transfered a long time ago.

      If the officers in the Sierra Madre Police Department are dumb enough to think that the Sheriff's would actually take them, then they deserve what they will ultimately get.....NOTHING,

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    3. there is a reason why the officers work here - they can't get hired on by the Sheriff's office and I can't think of one of our officers who get hired by the Sheriff's office.

      face it, we have Post Alarm on steroids and with a whiny attitude

      their big job is to bust skateboarders and minor vandalism and they go all out for that

      sort of embarassing to be a the low end of a profession

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  17. This action by the POA is a provocation. The City has submitted its last, best offer and the POA didn't like it. The way to reopen negotiations is to go to court. I suspect the majority of the SMPD is helpless against the POA. The City's negotiating team is so far doing a great job; let's hope they keep it up.

    Counsellors, are you out there? Can you give us an opinion?

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  18. I hope council Member Harabedian has realized that he made a Faustian pact with the POA when he accepted that association's endorsement.

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  19. OT: JC, did you see the article in Patch yesterday about the Brown Act being suspended?

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  20. Actually, Harabedian might do well to recuse himslef from any vote involving the police department. I'm not saying that there's a legal conflict, but it looks bad for the POA to endorse him.

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    1. Honestly I don't think he had a clue. Harabedian is as green as they get, and this is proof.

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  21. There's another point that's being overlooked by the posters this morning. It turns out our small town police force can't conduct big-time crime investigations, nor do we have our own SWAT team. So, we have to bring the Sherrif's Dept. in anyway.

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  22. There is no more money, the judges know it, the cities know it, all those juicy raises promised before 2008 aren't going to happen, not for at least 10 more years if ever. Screw the unions, get rid of half the police department, or go to the sheriffs department, Dieter has a real hardon for Sierra Madre. Fire ten officers for every lawsuit the POA files. Call it budget cuts to pay legal fees. How many suits does the POA have against Sierra Madre? Darn I used to respect Dieter, but now he is looking more and more like a walking talking pork chop.

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    1. "Fire ten officers for every lawsuit the POA files. Call it budget cuts to pay legal fees."
      Yes!

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    2. In Roman times it was known as decimation.

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  23. Brown Act is NOT being suspended, but the cost for reimbursement for making documents, etc. is being charged to the public now. This from the experts:

    http://calaware.wordpress.com/2012/07/13/brown-act-suspended-no-but-committee-thwarting-reform-2-2/

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    1. Yes, Patch is jumping the gun (or the shark) on this issue. Here's another better source:

      http://www.citywatchla.com/component/content/article/317-8box-right/3465-rumors-of-the-brown-acts-demise-are-greatly-exaggerated

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  24. So we receive full-service policing including a SWAT team when necessary and save a $1 million per year. Why are we debating this issue?

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  25. If you account for all of the staff time devoted to handling the police misconduct matters, it's more than $1million oer year we would save by replacing the police department.

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  26. 9:07 SWAT Team?

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    1. No kidding.

      9:07 must be a Fascist. We certainly don't need a SWAT team in Sierra Madre. All we need are law enforcement officers willing and able to do their job on a day to day basis.

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  27. We had to bring the Sheriff's SWAT Team in when an alleged felon had barricaded himself in a house with a couple of pit bulls. The SWAT Team entered the house and apprehended him without inflicting serious injury on the perp or his dogs. Zimmerman was Mayor at the time and honored the SWAT Team at a Council meeting.

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    1. yep and our PD was assigned distant traffic control

      but they pulled weapons on kids trespassing or had weapons drawn on kids carrying at the time legal air soft guns with orange tips

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  28. The Sheriff's Dept. also has its own fleet of helicopters, search and rescue teams etc.

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  29. The City needs to present to the people of this town the Sheriff Dept.'s proposal, in full. I want to hear what they have to offer. They are a natural solution. How do we facilitate this?

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    1. The best approach is money. Budgets are tight and sacrifices need to be made. That is the spin. The reality is we will get better service for a lot less dough. But I would present this an an "unfortunate fiscal necessity."

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    2. we've burned nearby depts and the Sheriff's office with superficial requests for bids without any serious review of the bids

      the last time we sent out bids I think Pasadena or Arcadia ignored it and the bids we did we receive weren't given to us with any real numbers and were treated by the agencies as a joke - which is what the request was

      I'd like to know how much Dead Eye Amos cost us with him shooting an unarmed sleeping man in the back and then why in the world was put back on the force

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  30. 10:11, The City Council tried that a few years ago and the residents came out in force to demand that we keep our police force. I wonder how many of those residents who arguerd for the retention of our police force have picked up traffic tickets since then? Let's hope the attitude of residents has changed since then.

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    1. lol - the residents did not come out in force in support of the PD - it was a handful of loud voices that are the same that were anti-Measure V

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  31. PSN Poll: Disband the COG?
    621 yes
    116 no

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    1. Barbara and the girls in the COG office must have been clearing thier cache all day to vote over and over. Close the s__thole down.

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  32. It's interesting. In a crisis situation, which is what the COG is in the middle of, the worst thing you can do is nothing. Yet, that's precisely what COG is doing.

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  33. it's beyond time to dump the SMPD - that should have happened 4 or 5 years ago

    honestly, when I see a SMPD officer I don't feel safe and I do NOT want the SMPD responding to a emergency situation - they are poorly trained and are just one step above Post Alarm

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  34. whenever you want a uncomfortable laugh, all you have to do is recall a situation where the SMPD responded to a situation

    my favorite is from a few years ago when a supposed robbery was taking place at a jewelry store and my son and his friends were downtown

    one of our "portly" officers was working his way down the block (with his gun drawn) and hiding behind a street lamp pole

    his gut was sticking out and yet in his mind he was hiding

    face it, our PD is a joke

    if anything serious happens we call in an outside agency and our PD is distant perimenter control

    or they excellent at providing over-inflated security costs to movie productions - movie productions dont' have a choice, hire our PD or they can't film here

    I lost all respect for our PD when they promoted Esther, the dispatcher and gave her a gun and then she drove around writing tickets non-stop

    FIRE THE PD

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    1. You don't just get promoted. How did Esther qualify? Who gave her the training sessions? Was it done inhouse? What are the standards here? Have we always operated outside the basic standards? Our own form of corruption!

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  35. If we go with the LA Co Sheriffs Department it is not a given that the former Sierra Madre Police officers will be hired by that agency. Wouldn't they have to perform requirements of fitness and readiness as would any new hire? I am pretty sure this would preclude many of our ex-officers from ever becoming LA County Sheriffs and those that did would not have the assurance they would be assigned to the Altadena Sub-station to serve Sierra Madre.

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  36. 12:01. There's no guarantee that any of our officers would get hired by the Sheriff's Dept. Given the poor conditioning of many of our officers, it's a good bet that many will not.

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  37. The Sheriff's office does hire laterals. However, lateral hires must be "in good physical condition."

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  38. Chickens coming home to roost.So who is surprised!The Union's financial interest in our City Council should have been a clue.Frankly, this is a mess but we deserve it as we continue to support and elect corrupt City Council persons and rush to employ lame,feeble City Hall hirelings.Now that's a combination you just can't beat!!!

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  39. Im kinda new in town. Been here 15 years since 1996. What impressed me most of Sierra Madre was our police dept. I didnt like police much coming from Glendale where their police run like the Gastopo. But here in Sierra Madre it was refreshing to begin to know each of the officers by name. You could see them in uniform having lunch with a civilian or sitting down having coffee with some parent hanging out at Bean Town. They would wave to you when they passed you on your walk. It truly impressed me that SM was like Mayberry. And that was nice. People in town respected them.

    I dont know what happened in recent years but now I only know a few of the old timers like "Barney" Keith Abbott, Ken "jerk" Berry and a few others.
    I like officer Abbott. He has come along way from his child like fantasy of being a cop.

    I say fire all SMPD except for Barney and Lt Enriquez.

    Officers Berry and that other cop on steroids (forgot his name) are a-holes.

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    1. Barney nah.....he's like the guy that you like because you sort of feel sorry for him

      Ruben is the only officer on the force I respect.

      Berry would never be hired at another department - he's a head case.

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  40. This is a very desirable town to work in, and the police department building is a good one. We have a lot to offer the sheriffs in turn for their coming here.

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  41. I was pulled over by SMPD once because my tail light was out. I was headed to Alberstons on a beer run. I was drunk but not driving reckless. Had a couple beers in me. When pulled over I was polite and the cop had to have smelled the booze on me. He let me go with a warning to get the light fixed.

    thank my lucky stars.

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    1. Please don't drive drunk, and not just because you won't get caught.
      Your perception and response time are compromised, and you may not even know it.

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    2. 12:36, thank your lucky stars you didn't kill somebody.

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    3. Totally lame.

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    4. yeah right - nobody believes this at all

      our PD used to patrol at night and probably still do outside of Sierra Madre and publish the arrests in the paper

      all of a sudden, when called out for it, Diaz goes before the Council, denies it (responding to the blog) and says that her officers were returning from Pasadena jail...and happened to pull someone over on Live Oak in Arcadia

      we never saw any more arrests printed in the blotter outside of Sierra Madre

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  42. Officer Abernathy is cool.
    There is a cop who patrols once in a while by motorcycle. He is a class jerk.

    what happened to Officer Lance Long? Or wayne or that older bald cop?

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    1. Officer Abernathy hasn't been with SMPD in a number of years; retired from the SMPD and works security at Santa Anita. Office Lance Long was very bad and left the SMPD under unexplained circumstances. Wayne Bailey retired before Chief Diaz came on board. Older bald cop? Can you be more specific? I can only imagine you've been a model citizen 12:38 pm, so much so that you've had no contact with the PD in awhile.

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    2. dude, where you been for the last 10 years and Abernathy was one of those with the "Sierra Madre SUCKS" banner displayed at the Wisteria Festival a few years ago

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  43. Bring on LA Sheriff's and Lee Baca's tough abusive tactics.

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    1. I agree. With the Sheriff's around we would have all the best drugs and prostitutes money can buy. Not to mention that police brutality always makes for good TV, and lord knows Sierra Madre needs a higher public profile.

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  44. What makes Sierra Madre so nice and unique:

    No stop lights
    Fourth of July parade
    Horn going off at noon
    small town police dept
    volunteer fire dept
    Pioneer Days
    Ice Cream social
    Derby Days
    Huck Finn Days
    Mater Delrosa Fiesta
    No traffic
    25 mile/hr speed
    few stop signs
    Mary's Market
    Lew Watanabe's Fish Fry
    Seeing the same people at 2 or 3 different locations the same day
    Seeing Officer Barney loaded down with all the equipment needed as though he is SWAT

    Unfortunately most of the items above are things of the past

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  45. This spoiled little town could not afford the $heriff$ Department. I support our police dept. and after reading some of these postings I hope the dept. will update and print the weekly police blotter. This town that time has forgot; is fortunate to have such caring officers; the majority of them do understand Sierra Madreans...with all "our" faults. Hey, no one is perfect...
    Poster 11:29am the mental health phoneline is listed for your apparent needs.
    I am sorry that the POA does not understand this town, but the officers do, give them respect.

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    1. If they care so much then why do they keep suing us over and over? And what "faults" are you talking about? Like most people I know I work my tail off so I can live in Sierra Madre. Please explain to me how I am "spoiled?" And make it good, because I am prepared to laugh in your face.

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    2. Respect has to be earned and I have lived in Sierra Madre for 23 years and this batch of PD do not deserve my tax dollars or respect.

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    3. 1:22, I think it's the officers who are spoiled, not the town, and you've got your finances wrong.
      The POA has jacked us up so much, it's the police department we can no longer afford.
      The sheriffs will provide the service and will save us money.

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    4. The officers who work here are unhappy?
      Hey good news for them.
      There are plenty of job openings in South Central L.A.

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    5. 1:22 if you want to have the police blotter, contact Chief Larry G. and volunteer to compile it every week. My guess is that the Chief would love to have the help.

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    6. Maybe the police should pull their heads out of their butts and look around. EVERYONE is having a tough time making ends meat. Instead of focussing on the people at the bottom of the pyramid they should look at those at the top of the pyramid. Or in other words, those that have lost the most due to this manufactured financial crisis versus those that have made the most due to this manufactured financial crisis.

      I really wish the Sierra Madre Police officers would get a clue. I want to support them, but they make it so difficult.

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  46. I wonder what Officer Lance Long did wrong to suddenly leave SMPD. He told me he was leaving because of a job injury. He used to call me at my home once in awhile just to chit chat. I thought he was a pretty nice guy.

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    1. Officer Lance Long was having an affair with one of SM citizens. Once discovered it became embarrassing and he supposedly" had a work related injury.

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    2. Maybe he threw his back out.

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    3. I don't think that is true.
      Having affairs is not against the law.
      It might be in poor taste, might even be immoral in some instances, but it's not illegal.

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  48. We need some facts and less emotion and opinions.

    Can someone put together a lists of pro and cons for saving the PD and if replaced the real numbers for people employed, cost, and why "they" would serve us better.

    A smaller group of people always works more diligently. Large group leaves it up to the next person. Do we need such a great number of police in such a small community with low crime?

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  49. No one said what Officer Long did anything illegal. It was simply stated that he had an affair with a citizen of Sierra Madre, it became public knowledge and embarrassing for him, and subsequently thereafter Officer Long filed a work related injury and left the force. He wasnt released because he was having an affair. Thats a ridiculous conclusion.

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    1. OMG! It had to be a spouse of a high ranking public official for it to impact his SMPD job! OMG! OMG! OMG!

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  50. Are you serious there was a SMPD who had an affair with a woman whose name is Lance Long? I dont think that was his real name. To coincidental affair and Long. Sounds like an ad for a porn star.

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    1. Dirk Diggler.

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    2. Who said it was a woman?

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    3. Boogie Nights - Really?

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    4. Protect and SERVE.

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  51. Word to the wise. Dont have affairs with residents of the same small town. Word gets out fast here in Sierra Madre.

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  52. Try to figure this out, we have the Community Services Commission, Planning Commission, Senior Community Commission and the Tree Commission but we don't have a Police Commission or a Fire Commission, why is that? We don't even have a Safety Commission. Now were talking all these other Commissions but our safety with Police or Fire does not get us a Commission. There has to be a reason and the only thing I can think of is the City wants to have control over them. A Commission is made up of knowledgeable individuals that understand the Police functions or the Fire functions. Here we have two groups that daily deal with our lives and property and our city administrators want to make decisions based on administrations needs not the communities safety needs. Maybe if we had a Police Commission we would not have the lawsuits because there would be people who understood the PD's want's and needs. I think it's time we have a Police Commission so we could have better communications with the needs of Sierra Madre and it's tax payers and not have the administrators spending our tax dollars for police needs that don't really help us, what do you think? OH, and of all things now the city administrators want to make the Green Advisory Committee a Commission. Why would we wast money on a Green Commission that basically copied the United Nations Green recommendations when we have people living right here that understand our green needs better than a United Nations could ever understand. Bottom line here is we'll waste money on something because it's green but we wont spend money on the safety of the community, I would like to hear more on this, THANK YOU.

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    1. Don't get too excited! All those Comissions (and Committees) are only advisory in nature. Makes no difference what they advocate, advise, or recommend. The City Council can (and has) ignored their findings to the detriment of all Sierra Madreans.

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  53. the commissions are designed for volunteer community input. They dont really have much to offer and are filled their friends and connections. Very few have any real background except for popularity in town.

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  54. Bad Tattlers. Officer Lance Long has long gone and we don't want to bring up old hurts of which we have no real knowledge. Sometimes it's better not to know the police department too well.

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    1. Ya probably not to good to talk about someone who isnt around anymore. But its all good hear say. Maybe the woman who Long was having an affair with who lived up in the canyon might speak up. I heard her husband Dave walked in on them.

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    2. Goodness gracious, every once in a while Mayberry gets its Peyton Place on.

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  55. Obviously the city needs to listen to experts and not their own personal interests and friends. Were not only talking about wasted money but were talking the safety of Sierra Madre.

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  56. I recall one of our council members running around with some woman half his age back when he was on council. Not sure of his name I think Robert something.

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  57. just ask the clown realtor who drives that pink unicorn around the true story of Lance Long and his doings. She knows everything in town before it hits the streets. Must live an exciting life knowing all the town gossip.

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  58. Lance Long...real name......involved a hooker and the loss of his service revolver...gospel truth!

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  59. Not so speedy gonzales anymore...July 17, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    I was pulled over this morning for over the speed limit on SM BLVD by Officer Abbott, let me off with a warning, thank you Officer Abbott, I do appreciate all you do for us!

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  60. Juicy, raunchy, fun, gets better every minute.

    We're all hooked to the truth.

    Fox News...alive and well in Tattsville.

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  61. You're all fools if you think a police commission is going to improve the police officers' relations with the Council, Community and City Hall. Our officers don't live here and are interested in making as much money as possible and suing the City every chance they get. They are not our friends.

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    1. You missed the point. A Police Commission gives civilian oversight that is separate from the more official government types. It takes away some of the control from City hall and gives it to the residents. It is a good thing. The cops'll hate it, though.

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    2. I know that sounds good in your head 9:03, but City Hall will remain in control because the council majority likes it that way. And besides, every new commission costs more staff time, which means they will want to add more employees to cover the workload at the expense of the taxpayers. This is hardly something we can afford at this time.

      NO on the Green Commission, NO on the Police Commission, NO on the Fire Commission

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    3. Yeah, why don't they post the police blotter these days, come to think of it. In other news, I went in to pay a parking ticket the other week and they wouldn't accept my my money - they've even outsourced that work too! What the heck do they do besides double park, make illegal u-turns, and fail to signal when turning?

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  62. I think Sierra Madre can't afford a stand alone police department- as most cities can't. SM should dissolve the entire dept. and get contract bids from the LA County Sheriff and the Arcadia PD next door.

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  63. Ask the realtor who drives that pink unicorn around town to tell you the story of the NAKED MAYOR RUNNING, yep true story and I'll bet you she will say she knows nothing about it, what a story, the walls have ears.

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  64. I do not understand. If you are speeding you are breaking the Law. Why endanger the public with you carelessness?

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  65. Think about it- if the powers that be didn't want you to speed then every car (like many commercial trucks) would be equipped with a governor ti prevent you from going faster than the maximum limit. Instead, even my crappy 4-cylinder car has a speedometer that goes up to 140mph. Why would that be so if the government was so concerned about safety?

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  66. How about you take Elisa Weaver's self-granted $30,000 raise (in a time of layoffs, budget shortfalls and cutbacks) and use it to pay the PD the money they are owed (approximately half as much money). The city's bad-faith negotiations are going to end up costing the taxpayers even more money in the form of legal fees than the POA is asking for. Then, ask the sheriff to take over the PD. If the sheriff takes them over, maybe the city can get out of paying retirement costs. Let the County take it all.

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  67. I believe the Sierra Madre police officers are able, knowledgeable, and professional. All police departments are labeled with negative terms because they are mandated to do the things that some people dislike such as enforcing the laws of that city including state and federal laws. Sure, being issued a citation for a seemingly innocent moving violation or a fix-it ticket is not received with great joy. But the truth is that someone has to enforce the laws. We shouldn't forget that these laws are in place to keep us all safer and to maintain order in our city and lives. That failure to stop at a stop sign citation may have prevented a serious injury or accident that may have involved you or a loved one. Sierra Madre has been and is one of the safest cities in the country. We owe that to the residents of Sierra Madre, but I think we can give some credit to the Sierra Madre police officers for dutifully handling all calls for service and keeping watch while the city sleeps.

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  68. Well written Mr Chief of police. SM cops are a disgrace. Look up the definition of Protect and Serve. Hint: it's not antagonize residents with frivolous BS tickets. Keep on harassing the folks who are paying you....

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