Wednesday, November 7, 2012

ALF Wins Big, Everything Else Pretty Much Stays the Same

Honey? Did something just happen?
When you wake up this morning you'll discover that we still have the same President and will for awhile, along with pretty much the same set up in the United States Senate and House of Representatives.

The California State Legislature remains in the hands of one party, and when all the ballots statewide are finally counted might actually find itself with supermajorities should things continue to go their way. All of which means they can raise taxes and the opposition won't be able to do anything about it. Considering what those people have done to this state so far, I am not certain how anyone can find much comfort in that thought.

Then again, this is something that will make our state very similar to many of the poorer republics in this world. World synergy being a good thing I have been told. One party rule having brought them many of the same benefits we in California have now begun to enjoy. Apparently the prospect of things only getting worse is no impediment to a ruling party's permanent grip on power.

If government really is a process, then we have certainly been processed. All of which also goes to show that as dysfunctional as things might be now, most folks didn't see the alternative as being any better, and perhaps even worse. I don't know how that could be, though. Then again, maybe I should just look harder.

Statewide I am proud to say a full 2.4% of the electorate voted for third party presidential candidates. With 86.2% of the vote counted, the results are as follows:

Gary Johnson (Libertarian) 88,632 votes, or 1.0%
Jill Stein (Green) 52,755, or 0.6%
Roseanne Barr (Peace and Freedom) 33,032, or 0.4%
Thomas Hoefling (American Independent) 24,034, or 0.3%

The remaining 97.6% of the California electorate having voted for those other two guys. 38.4% of them threw their vote away.

Jerry Brown got Prop 30 passed, which means that public education as we now know it will live to see another day. You tell me if that is a good thing or not. Of course, this will only be a temporary arrangement. Meaning, I suppose, that any resulting possible change for the better won't last.

Prop 32 went down to defeat by a 3 to 2 margin. Maybe next time someone will come up with a proposition that puts spending and campaign cash raising limits on both labor and their bosses at the same time. But don't hold your breath for too long, though. You could turn blue and your lungs might burst. Nobody really wants to limit the cash spent on elections, just the spending of the folks they don't like.

The death penalty that rarely if ever gets used is still available for use should anyone figure out how to actually do it. Human trafficking and the three strikes law were dealt deserving blows by the electorate. Long term incarceration for stealing a pack of cigarettes, along with human slavery, were shown to be no longer in favor with California voters. We must be getting soft.

Prop 37 fell victim to the kind of money that would not have been restricted by Prop 32. The right to know what exactly made your food what it is remaining none of your business. Here, have an apple instead.

Sierra Madre now finds itself to be a part of a deep blue district, and at every level. We will now be served by a Democrat in the U.S. Congress, California State Senate and State Assembly. Green jobs and transit villages are just around the corner it seems. But do not worry, there will be plenty of grant money to make it all happen. Prepare to see our town forcibly downsized, and at your own personal expense.

Measure J might be going down to defeat. Then again, it might not. It needs to get two thirds of the vote, and as of this typing it is right around the 64% mark. There are lots of ballots to still be counted, so stay tuned for further developments. Metro may still get its $60 billion dollars and dig freeway tunnels to its little cold heart's content.

Here in Sierra Madre, of the 7,990 people eligible to vote on Measure ALF, 2,730 decided they didn't really feel like doing it. Out of the 4,760 who were into voting on this matter, or possibly even knew what ALF was, a plurality of 3,668 fell for it. Though I suspect far fewer than that will care to own up to having done so once this thing starts getting built.

By 2014 I believe these numbers will have completely flip-flopped, and only 1,092 will admit to being dumb enough to have voted to enable so gargantuan a pile. Most of them packed onto the ALF's deluxe multi-suite uni-kitchen dementia floor.

One thing to be grateful for, election madness has ended for the time being. Things will be fairly safe for a while, or at least until April of 2014. But it will be back. Of this you can be certain.

Enjoy the time off.

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85 comments:

  1. What's a muther to do?

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    1. The citizens of Sierra Madre who voted to pass this proposition deserve what they will see when the final product sits across the street from city hall, best yet is Bruce will have a perfect view of it out his window.

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    2. Sierra Madre's reputation as a political hotbed is way overstated. Most residents would be hard pressed to name the mayor, or just about anything else to do with government in this town. Political involvement here is the pursuit of two small minorities.

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  2. i figured out the kitchen thing. that's so all the old folks will hobble over, or better yet, use that fine city van, to go out to eat every day. and to make sure that no one cooks their neighbors in an accidental bbq. (there won't be enough water to put out a fire that big.)

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  3. Claire McCaskill, Susan Delbene and Elizabeth Warren won against white males whose boneheaded comments regarding rape, in their various mindless views, cost them their elections.

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    1. It was a bad night for Rapepublicans.

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    2. Those stunningly ignorant men lost, but it's disconcerting to see how many people voted for them.

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    3. Scary, isn't it.

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  4. The ALF's dementia ward will be the perfect place for the Green Commission to warehouse dissidents.

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  5. Who will pay for the water, the buck?

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    1. They will serve you a glass of water, but you'll have to ask for it.

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  6. Romney won the Confederacy.

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    1. 7:53 am - Your shallowness is shameful. Good luck to you the next four years. Please do not complain when you have no job, no money, and exceedingly high taxes.

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    2. 8:01, perhaps a sense of humor would be helpful for the next couple of days. 7:53 is repeating a social critic/comedian's joke.

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    3. Jon Stewart, right?

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    4. Daugher of the American Revolution and the ConfederacyNovember 7, 2012 at 8:13 AM

      As a daughter of the old South I must agree with 7:53 am. Romney did in fact win the Confederacy. But the Confederacy was wrong, times have changed, and humanity has moved on. Just as slaves are no longer kept at the White House and women can now own property and vote, minorities must be reognized for their achievements and contributions. The era of the robber barons has passed. Mitt Romney represents greed and enslavement of millions of citizens. The old South will not rise again.

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    5. Actually, Romney did not win the Confederacy. the Confederacy no longer exist, or have you forgotten what the Civil War was all about?

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    6. In some ways, the Confederacy very much exists.

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  7. I'm sorry the Alf won, but not surprised - it could be good for the town, though I just don't get how blasé the council and commissioners were about the water. Maybe after this is done (2014-15?) they'll put a moratorium on new water hook-ups, or else stop telling us we're running out of water.

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    1. It will become the rationale for more water infrastructure. With either more taxes or a new water bond to fund it. The development crowd won a huge victory yesterday. I suspect they will start to think differently about Measure V.

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  8. Let go of demonising the Green Committee members. Go after the real culprets, current and former City Council who did not ask for a more through discussion of the issues. Environmental destruction, discussed by Rachel Carlson and other since, need to have honest discussions and serious solutions. The mess did not happen overnight and will take time to fix. But waiting will just add to the mess. Those anti-UN Accords and anti-Kyoto Agreement are following a political agenda, not having a environmental discussion.

    Remember when asbestos was no big deal, DDT, how about other work place exposures that are now understood to kill and have been corrected. When GMO labeling comes up for a vote again the danger to the farm worker will be a bigger part of the discussion.

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    1. The Green Whatever's agenda is development. Anyone who advocates that is fair game. The environmental veneer is just for show. It is greenwash.

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    2. I agree that everything you mention is important and necessary to deal with, 7:58, but you leave out the stack and pack development side of it. Until that's excluded, the Green Committee is just a shill for development.

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    3. Yep. Why else would Buchanan and Moran want it? They don't give a damn about anything else but the mighty development buck.

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    4. Buchanan would dress in a thong bikini if he thought it would help get the DSP built.

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    5. 7:58, the UN Accords as they were promulgated by the Green Comm. were the equivalent of the Big Bad Wolf pretending to be Grandmother.

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    6. Rachel Carlson and her "Silent Spring" has been responsible for more deaths in the 3rd world countries than the ddt she so hotly demonized. The Green Committee is not about the ecology, it is about their own agenda. An environmental discussion can be had by us who want to save the earth that doesn't include stack and pack, transportation villages and parking lots for a bus ride to a rail line that Sierra Madre residents are not interested in using.

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    7. Probably a mistake to take the bait, but what's the statistical back up to substantiate the claim that Carson caused deaths by advocating the thorough study of the use of chemicals?

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    8. 2:44 works for Monsanto.

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    9. Start with a 40 acre homestead. 1 man with two horses can clear 1 acre per year. 30 years go by and 30 acres are ready to plant. Plant an orchard, principally apples. Put the remaining acrage into family garden and cash crops of corn, wheat and some beans. Keep cattle, and pigs for slaughter, and in the cold of winter take the manure you have piled up, mix it with the shredded dried stalks and spread it on the dormant fields. What you ate from this family farm system passed nutrients and organic food to you, and those who chose not to farm.

      My family descendents now own 2 or 3 thousand acres of these former family farms. They contract for plowing, fertilizers, pesticides, and harvesting, The put dryers over in the corner and built silos to store until the price was what they wanted. "Eating corn" was replaced by "feed corn" to satisfy the cattle feed lots and million packed chicken farms the inhabitants of which were fed all kinds of antibiotics and asosrted drugs to make them get fatter quicker, and reistant to disease.

      Rachel Carson some 50 years ago knew exactly what she was predicting. You are what you eat and as it changes so will you. 2:44 don't add your "green fears" to the fact that we have changed our food chain dramitically and what she predicted is coming to pass.
      Your need no other fears to cloud this fact.

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  9. Yeah on measure 32. One of my favorite bumper stickers: Support the Unions. The people who brought you the week-end!

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  10. You read it here first. The next Republican candidate for Governor of California will be Latino. If he wins, he will be groomed and put forward for President a couple of years later.

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    1. OMG, don't tell me you are now campaigning for Villagarosa. Oh, you said Republican. If any Latino will be groomed for President it is Rubio, who could be a great one when he gets more experience.

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  11. Stock market is in a freefall this morning...

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    1. And then it will recover and then it will go down, and then it will go up, then down, then up, and that's the big Carny wheel that is the market. It's a gambling game of chance.

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  12. It is not that 2,730 people didn't vote on Measure ALF. Rather they declined to state.

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  13. 1,100 or so votes is the slow growth core. With just one flyer and a couple of blog posts, it came out and said NO. In a non-presidential year, it is a potent force. When this thing starts getting built, it will grow.

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    1. I would think that most of those 1,100 people also voted for Mr. Capoccia and Mr. Koerber last April. I hope they can take that into account when discussing any future projects.

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    2. I was a strong supporter of Chris and John when they ran in the last election. I am still totally befuddled why they would support the ALF. Will they support other mega projects? I hope not. The ALF is not what is in the center of a small village.

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    3. From what I gathered during the hearings, they think the property tax revenue will be good, and, perhaps more foolishly, they think there will be a noticable increase in business conducted downtown.

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    4. Are we talking about the ALF or the DSP?

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    5. An ALP. They're talking about cooling Sierra Madre down about 30 degrees and building a ski resort at One Carter. It is kind of an act of desperation, but at this point what choice do they have?

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    6. I thought all 6 Council candidates supported the ALF, or am I wrong?

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    7. What the hell difference does that make?

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    8. I do like the idea of an Alpine ski resort at the top of Baldwin. Very innovative. If Mt Baldy and Big Bear can do it, why not Sierra Madre? We have a City Council ready to promote the concept.

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    9. I think Councilmember Walsh is going to propose the consultant study for a One Carter ski area. Working title is "The Lucky Baldwin Yodelplex."

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  14. Proud to have cast my Yes vote on 37. Sad to live in a state where voters are bamboozled by big money ads. But that is the way it is I guess.

    Also proud to have cast my NO vote on the ALF. Will be so sad to see that thing being built. What a waste of resources. Nothing green about building a monstrosity.

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  15. Higher taxes, high unemployment, 710 tunnel, and a monster building that will eat the city. Thanks to you fools that voted for the ALF, Obama, Holden and Prop 30. Good job.

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    1. Take a breath dear heart, you'll give yourself the vapors.
      I think you'll be surprised by how little things change post election.
      Try dialing the hyperbole back a bit, it will make your life much easier.

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    2. What is it about the same old stupid crap that comforts you?

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    3. I resemble that fool, 10:22 am. I'm proud of my choices (well, except for the 710 tunnel but I don't think it'll ever be built and I didn't really chose that). In 1978 a choice was made to cap property taxes. We have run out of funds to educate the children - the very children and their parents who will fund your social security payments.

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    4. Property tax ain't the problem... The percentage may be lower than other states, but the values remain higher, so per capita is not too different.

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  16. The 710 tunnel extesnion of the freeway that was started decades ago will finally be finished and in a non-violent way. No more scaring the surface, rather just bore some tunnels under the landscape above.

    Think of the safety options that will happen, no longer will traffic spill out onto surban or historic surface streets just to connect to the other end of the 710 freeway.

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    1. Well, the cars will be safe. Of course the human beings living around the mouths of the tunnel will not be.

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    2. Boring tunnels in the ground is 'non-violent'? You're teasing, yeah?

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    3. The last thing anyone would ever do is scare the surface. I am sure that this non-violent approach will be great news for the rocks and dirt.

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    4. Trucks don't get cancer. People do.

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    5. It has always seemed remarkably sensible to me to build underground in land that is full of faults.
      Give is a lesson in self-improvement.

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    6. Just as long as it is non-violent.

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    7. The cancer argument is tenuous. Particularly for those of you who own a car.

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    8. The admission by Metro that cancer and emphysema rates rise around the mouths of tunnels is not tenuous. The proponents are the ones who had to disclose it, which tells you that it must be bad indeed.

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    9. Metro got what it deserves with the defeat of Measure J. All their tunnel BS has come back to haunt them.

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  17. According to an article from the Daily News that just went on-line Measure J is toast.

    Have a nice day, Metro.

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  18. What about the people that live on the surface streets between the two ends of the freeway now. Dont they have a say about not having any more cars and getting cancer?

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    1. Don't know if you get outside much, but there are cars pretty much everywhere. The topic of interest to adults here is the thousands of trucks that will be pumped into the SGV daily from the ports once the tunnel is completed. That is the concern.

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    2. 12:34, did they buy their properties any time in the last 30 years?
      If so, they knew what they were buying.
      If they bought property before that, there should be restitution.

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  19. Measure J, L.A. County transportation tax extension, fails

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    1. Thank heaven.

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    2. Zev Yaroslavsky was just on KPCC moaning about this to Larry Mantle. Apparently the margin of defeat was 2%.

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  20. The question is, how did Brown and the Teachers' Unions get a tax hike without a 2/3's majority. These people aren't as stupid as they look, but they are very dangerous.

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    1. Speaking of a 2/3rds majority: that is the number of community college students in California who do not graduate, transfer, or earn a certificate in SIX YEARS. (Even if you called it a Six Year College the name would be grossly inadequate.)

      And what is the taxpayer cost? $10 BILLION a year for 2.6 million students. That's $3,846.00 per student per year, or $23,076 per student, 2/3rds of whom never graduate, transfer, or earn a certificate. But many just keep on attending anyway.

      All Prop 30 does is provide salaries and benefits, including deluxe retirement, to the teachers who have such a dismal success rate.


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    2. Stop quoting facts, we're talking about our children.

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    3. @1:39, "deluxe retirement", are you kidding? Do you know what teachers earn?
      Go read a bit before you post nonsense.

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  21. Great picture Tattler. Just kickin' it with James Dean and Liz Taylor.

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  22. Greed and enslavement of millions of citizens? You mean those who don't know the meaning of good and honest work, just give me hand outs and everything for free because I am a victim and I like not having to do anything mentallity group is trying to impart a history lesson? Study up. Mitt's political group freed the slaves.... and continue to fight for those who do not have a voice and those who do not want to be owned by big government.

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    1. Nice try but no cigar, kid.

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  23. Stop using scare tactics or "we are running out of water in Sierra Madre", no new bonds or tax increases. Get any revenue from the 43,000.00 in property taxes from the ALF. City Hall ok'ed the project with out asking for infrastructure on the blvd. There was no deliberation regarding the one hundred and twenty five, more or less, new people (that the city council must have given asssurance to the developer)that NO water problem exists. I mean the council gave no condictions on the project! Just welcome to town, now take over (or hover over); this is the prodigy of this and the past council, you own it, it's your legacy.

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  24. Mitts political group freed the slaves...in name only. The state of the current Republican Party is not even close to the party that freed the slaves, what a slap in the face to those great Americans, hell, Ronald Reagan wouldn't have won this parties nomination earlier this year. To understand the fundamental reason the republicans lost this election is rather simple, at Romneys concession speech and Obamas victory speech all you would have to do is turn the cameras 180 degrees off the candidates, THAT, is why the election turned out the way it did...Carry on Mr. President, the floor is yours.

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  25. Wrong location, wrong building. I can honestly say that I did not vote for the (un-doing) of Sierra Madre, the city in which I was born (two weeks shy of the post poned opening of the hospital on that site, soon to be known as the ALF). Sad to see the town could not remain a village, unique, distinctive, one of a kind, by it-self....un like Los Angeles.

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  26. The GOP has got to get used to the fact that oligarchs are not in favor anymore.

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    1. There are no more family values conservatives in America than hispanics. Why the GOP keeps attacking them during elections is beyond me. In 2012 America that looks like a death wish to me. Richard Nixon is dead. Time to bury that tactic as well.

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  27. I can guarantee that the ALF project when completed and operational will sue the city because of the noise and traffic from the Fire/Police station and sue to require the fire engines to not turn on their sirens until 1,000 yards away.

    this city keeps pandering to projects for people who don't even live here yet

    no worries, the way we are headed Sierra Madre will implode and we'll be forced to annex into Pasadena or Arcadia

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