Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Green Nanny Government

"I saw that."
"The scope of the Green Committee is huge. No wonder it comes out as gibberish when the expert of the experts, Chair Alva, tries to say it simply. They are out to control what we eat, what we live in, and how we move around. It is an impressively ambitious grab at power." - reader comment posted here yesterday

Sometimes the best stuff to be found on this blog comes out in the comments. And it could be that yesterday was one of those days. Because when you stop and take a good look at the Green Advisory Committee's "Environmental Accords" (or whatever it is they finally decide to call them), it becomes obvious that with an elevation to full Commission status their proposed purview would extend into just about every corner of Sierra Madre civic life. Just as our commenter said. In other words, it isn't really about compost and camellias.

So what we're going to do today is pull a few examples of this rather ambitious effort out of the Sierra Madre Green Advisory Committee's Environmental Accords for all to see. Done in the hopes that when lined up one beside the other, it will become obvious that there isn't much that you are doing here in Sierra Madre that a Green Commission would not consider to be their business as well. And by golly yes, they will be watching.

Action Item #4: Adopt a citywide greenhouse gas reduction plan that meets or exceeds AB32 (or equivalent).

This ambitious plan would require that the residents of this city reduce their greenhouse gas emissions by 25% in the upcoming years. The main identified culprit in this case is your car, with the recommended solution being for them to modify your driving habits. How is that to be done? The Accords also notes the need to establish "a system for accounting and auditing greenhouse gas emissions." I just hope you'll have some good excuses ready.

Action Item #8: Develop and begin to implement a plan to expand affordable public transportation coverage within a quarter-mile of all city residents by 2015.

This one recently took it in the teeth when the City Council voted to curtail some of the already existing public transportation provided here. The Accords further states, "This plan would be expected to be a part of a Transportation component of a Climate Action Plan." In other words, it is another attempt to get you out of your automobile and into something a little more acceptable to the Green Advisory Committee. Like a bus.

Action Item #10: Develop and begin to implement a plan to reduce the percentage of commuter trips by single occupancy vehicles by 10% by 2015.

You as a Sierra Madre resident might take for granted your right to hop into an automobile and head off on your own to do such things as go to work and earn the kind of living necessary to pay the taxes here. The Green Committee wants you to know that is no longer considered to be acceptable behavior. Driving alone, that is.

Action Item #13: Promote a healthy nutritional lifestyle in City events and the community with preferences towards locally grown and organic food supply and local gardening.

I'm not completely certain that the above sentence makes total sense, but picture this anyway. You are out with your youngsters at the 4th of July Parade, or maybe one of those kid crazy Little League events, and your bairn decide they are hungry. But rather than those sugar enriched snacks they prefer, you instead can only buy them carrot sticks and freshly cut celery stalks. Will their little faces light up with joy? Or will they instead tell you they want to go home? I think you know the answer.

Action Item #15: Adopt and implement policies by 2013 to reduce per capita water demand by 15% by 2015 and 30% by 2020.

Could we be seeing the development of a double standard for water here? While developers such as the Kensington folks are venerated for building huge structures where water will be consumed in very large quantities, you the mere resident will be expected to reduce your usage markedly. With the Green Advisory Committee monitoring your water consumption every step of the way.

Action Item #19: Amend or re-adopt building codes to include a rating system.

If you should decide that you want to build a new home here in Sierra Madre, or maybe even refurbish the one you live in now, prepare to be given a grade by the Green Advisory Committee.

Action Item #21: Adopt urban planning principles and practices that promote appropriate density and land use for walkable, bikeable, and disabled-accessible neighborhoods; and transportation is coordinated with land use to provide access to open space for recreation and ecological restoration by 2013.

You might like the way Sierra Madre looks right now. And you might also think that building a 300 condo units (or so) Transit Village downtown is not the reason you moved here. After all, that kind of ambiance could have been more cheaply attained by purchasing a home in Duarte, Azusa or Rancho Cucamonga. But the Green Advisory Committee wants you to know that your single family home lifestyle is no longer acceptable behavior. Prepare to help save the planet by seeing the things you love about this town radically changed.

Action Item #25: Adopt a Municipal Code Ordinance, in compliance with local, state and federal laws and regulations, which protects critical habitat corridors and other key habitat characteristics from unsustainable development.

I am not quite certain what a "critical habitat corridor" in Sierra Madre might be. Unless, of course, it is the path from the woods that the bear takes when he is heading for your trash cans. But what easier way to curtail the scourge of single family homes than to have a law that allows the City to declare them "unsustainable development?" Would a 300 condo downtown Transit Village be declared unsustainable? Of course not. That's where the real money is at.

Which is, of course, what this is really all about.

If you actually like the idea of a Green Commission telling you how to conduct your life, then this evening could be a cause for celebration. For the rest of us tonight's City Council meeting will likely be a far less joyous experience.

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181 comments:

  1. I expect it will take Josh 10 minutes tonight to explain the 3 minute rule.

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  2. The Green Committee's elevation to grand poobah has already happened. It's 3 for, 2 against, and even though I am what is derisively called a tree hugger, I think this is a shame. The committee is unbelievably presumptuous and has no right to call itself anything except just another henchman for the state.

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    1. You know, they have not actually voted yet. You can still change someone's mind and their vote.

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    2. You're right. I'm going to call Nancy.

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    3. I can only think that you did not follow the previous discussion at the last council meeting. The votes couldn't be more firm.

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  3. I'm not against some of the ideas being promulgated here, but real revolution always come from below, not above. This is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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  4. The worst way to get people to do something is tell them they have to do it. This will set environmentalism in this town back a decade.

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    1. Hey Green Commission! This grandma is going to go out and buy a Mustang GT350 this year to celebrate your elevation from committee to commission. Have a green day!

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  5. Tattlers! This is NOT the evening to sit on your sofa and watch the council meeting. this is the night you must show the councilmembers that you, as a tax paying citizen of Sierra Madre, will not abide such foolish nonsense as a Green Commission. yes, it's fun to make and read the comments posted here on this blog, but you Ned to show up in person and speak in reasonable, yet forceful tones, about the destruction (economic and social) this green behemoth will create. See you tonigh!

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    1. But the vote is already decided.....

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    2. Yep. 1 ambitious minor party functionary and two rubes deep in the pockets of downtown investors. 3 votes from a truly classless bunch.

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    3. Yes, it may already be decided, but tonight is the night to defang it.

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  6. Do I get an exemption if I buy an electric car? Can I drive myself to work then?

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    1. Maybe. Maybe if you gather together people who have a similar schedule and destination and pack 'em in. Your own little transportation business as it were.

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  7. It's just another form of war against the poor and the working class.
    The people who can least afford new green homes and vehicles are the ones who are going to be on the bulls eye.
    The businesses that make the polluting cars are ok; the people who buy them, no.

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    1. If you don't have the money to trick your digs out in the latest green gadgetry, do you get a bad grade? Do you have to post it in your front yard?

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  8. Here's what puzzles me:
    "transportation is coordinated with land use to provide access to open space for recreation and ecological restoration by 2013."
    Does that mean we'll have a trolly system to the parks? We will be able to get a ride up to One Carter (or whatever it's called now that Capital Source has gotten rid of it) or will there be a shuttle to Baily Canyon, a new Red Line to Mt Wilson?
    How will this access to open space be paid for, by next year?

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    1. How will any of this be paid for?

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    2. Fines collected from miscreants who drive cars.

      Seriously, I can't even get my neighbors to recycle anything - how will these regulations be enforced? Garbage patrols? Blue can detectives?

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    3. Oh you silly people. The government is already working to change our local forest from forest land to park land. That means they will have greater control over who can and cannot enter the park and how they will be able to use it. If they change it to a park, the fees will increase far beyond the parking permit you now have to buy, and yes, they probably will disallow automobiles and will restrict mountain bike use, and perhaps even get rid of the Trail Race because it causes too great of an enviromental impact. Beware.

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  9. 7:06 is right - GO tonight. Don't let them think they can get away with more and more absurd stuff!

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  10. The ALF gets water, we get free lectures on drought resistant plants.

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  11. These new laws are going to take gestapo type of action to enforce. Remind you of any time in the history of the world where this action was taken. That woman is poison and soon you will taste it. Can this town really be filled with so many blind people, no, just people to busy earning a living to figure out what is taking place, dos vote. Don't need to hire more police to enforce this, just tack it on your property tax, lean your house. You sell the house to pay fines so you don't go to jail. Just kidding with that last bit but where is this going? One thing is for sure, we need to stop the threw traffic and people coming into town driving on our streets to a restaurant. Where ever this ends, it will be interesting to witness.

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  12. Of those you suspect of wrong doing at the elected or appointed level of your local government or involved in one of many secret orginizations like SGVCOG, or even your city council members themselves etc..

    This method is used to get around the Brown Act law in California.

    Here is a trick they employ to stay in touch: to conceal their email traffic between themselves directly, they compose messages and instead of transmitting them, left them in a draft folder or in an electronic “dropbox."

    Then the other person could log onto the same account and read the draft emails there.

    This avoids creating an email trail that is easier to trace.

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    1. Now you tell me!

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    2. I guess it beats the old method of leaving messages under a rock at memorial park.

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  13. I think the Green Committee and the three elected ignoramuses should show us the way and be the first to occupy and "adapt urban planning principles and and practices that promote appropriate density and land use for walkable,bikeable and disabled assessable neighborhood "ad nauseam...This is nothing more than a scam in support for the urbanization and redevelopment of our community.A few people will or think they will make a ton of money through redevelopment.If you like your town as it is,take heed ,they want to take it from you for their benefit only!

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    1. You kidding? Josh drives an old clunker Mercedes and Johnny drives a Corvette. They're as green as fresh mud.

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    2. They think they are now on the Gravy Train...You know"At first you don't succeed,try try again."So far they have flopped.Can't really blame them for trying again and again to fool the Folks!

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  14. In ten years automotive technology will have moved past the internal combustion engine. Which means all of that transit village housing will be left in the dust as people drive their pollution free private transportation way out into the suburban sprawl. This is a 1980s solution to a problem well on its way to being solved.

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    1. In ten years the combustion engine will be obsolete? It already is, has been for years, what hasn't changed is the Oil Co's tremendous lobbying in Washington, all the while leaving our best and brightest dying and injured to secure the channels of oil, yea us!!!!!

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  15. Actually I expect most Sierra Madreans will embrace these onerous government regulations because they just voted in Obama and his like minded compatriots that believe in higher taxes and more government interference in our daily lives. No big surprise. Unfortunately the rest of us get what the others deserve.

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    1. And, of course we'll get millions in grants from the Federal Government for all our green regulations. Nancy said so. Oh, and don't forget the millions in grants that will come from the state of California now that they have a majority in the legislature who can vote green (stack and pack) anytime they want.

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  16. There will be no problem enforcing any of these fine measures.
    With the Billions that are coming our way NEXT YEAR we'll be able to hire many qualified consultants who will bring us their templates for enforcement.

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    1. Right. With all the applications for grants coming from every conceivable corner, Sierra Madre will be pick of the litter because we so desperately need to green up. Compared to the cities around us, we're the cesspool of pollution that needs funding first.

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    2. Sierra Madre is already green. What the Green Committee wants to do will make it less so.

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    3. Are unicorns green? I hear they vent a lot of methane.

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    4. It depends on what they've been eating.

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  17. The solution to emmisions seems to assume the only vehicles in Sierra Madre are owned by residents and should be regulated. Gardners and pool maintainers along with many many contractors, as well as DT visitiors and delivery trucks, and visitors to the homes of residents constitute a major majority of the traffic generated. Even the most baisic City effort would not be attempted without an "O & D" study (origination and destination) as a requirement for action. Perhaps the City needs to put emmision monitoring stations at all street entrances to Sierra Madre and check emmisions for non complience of our Green Commission Standards. That should add maybe 50 additional City Employees doing 24 hour monitoring.

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    1. Maybe they'll invent a fee for this. You know, to cover the cost of staff time spent nosing around in your business.

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    2. Looks like we'll have to put out an RFP to get a consultant for the O & D.
      Staffs work is simply never done.

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    3. Once the consultant is hired you can take the rest of the day off.

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  18. Time to build checks points at all the entrances to Sierra Madre. We must check to see that all your papers are in order. When do I get fitted for my (green) Brownshirt?

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  19. Our Council has too much idle time on its hands. They seem to feel that "make work" and governmental "hand slapping" is a basic City Activity. Who are the "fat cats" propelling the Green Commission and how much "collusion" between City Managers are stirring this pot? All because of a "money grab" for DT high density development? The "Green Accords" reek of rediculous attempts to make rules where none are needed. Sounds like the 1800's where horses' road apples were a major environmental concern. As 8:35 suggests lets wait and see where all this is going before aggrivataing most Sierra Madre Residents with a "Green Accords committee" ostensibility for the common good but in reality to make a few developers rich.

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    1. This is just the latest in a series of schemes to sell the old DSP. In this version the DSP returns to save an ungrateful town from global warming. You'd have to be a howling idiot to believe it.

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  20. The last attempt to "monitor and cite" by Sierra Madre was code enforcemtnt administered by the Police Department in the person of Lisa Volpe. Any evaluation of The Green Advisory Committee"'s challenge should first review the code enforcement of the past and what success was achieved. I need say no more.

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  21. Does anyone know why this is coming back to the council, when the votes have already been decided?

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    1. Credibility building. They know some people don't see the point in a Green Commission at all, and they want to build some community support. When you consider that the GAC will be a major proponent of "green" downtown development, it will need all the credibility it can get.

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    2. Hopefully tonight will finish this waste of time.

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    3. The only purpose the Green Commission will serve is as fodder for Tattler posts.

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    4. It's the Gift That Keeps On Giving!

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  22. For any astronomy buffs, there's a total solar eclipse online, just about now:
    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/11/watch-live-total-solar-eclipse/

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  23. Sorry Astonomy buffs - it's about an hour from now.

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  24. I hear that this time it really is a dragon, and he is going to eat the world.

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    1. It's the angel Moroni, come for vengeance for Romney's loss.

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    2. I hear he has a special place for Karl Rove.

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    3. They have a big global warming problem there.

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    4. No, its the Democratic majority that's going to eat all of our profits to distribute to the poor in neighboring cities (we're all wealthy you know) and drink all our water.

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  25. On the gas emissions: was this being considered when the city raised the speed limit to 30 MPH? Just curious if it was.

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  26. Does the "Greenhouse Gas Accord" mean I don't need to comply with the DMV requirement for the current emissons test? Will City Hall let them know?

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  27. Uh-Oh, does a healthy life style mean that the City can't have cookies, soft drinks or other snacks at their meetings? And how about the Little League and Pony League diners. Will they have to stop selling candy, soft drinks, and fatty snacks? Does this mean the 4th of July Committee will not be able to serve beer? And how about the bake sale at the Friends of the Library Art Show, or their wine taste for that matter, since wine (according to some) is not healthy either. We'll also have to have a law that says the bakery can't sell sweets, no desserts in the restaurants, and Bean Town will have to stop selling his baked goods. No more Starbucks, Mother Moo's or any food at Savor the Flavor that has sugar in it. The list is endless.

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    1. Bubblewrap the children!

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  28. Chair Alva says he and his other committee members are "experts", and they can solve all of our State requirements by adopting the Accords. They are not experts in all areas, and certainally not experts when it comes to writing ordinances, procedures and policy. We have a city attorney, director of development and city manager who are mandated to do these things. Don't let them fool you into believing they will be the know all/end all to the problems the State is presenting to us. Nancy says with their help we can get grants from the federal government. That is a lot a baloney and coming from someone that worked for the State who feels an entitlement coming on. There is no free lunch. The Green Committee/Commission will cost the City plenty.

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  29. In earlier times this Green Accords list would be referred to as a "crock"

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    1. Sounds rather quaint and mild compared to today.

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  30. Do the experts say Josh has to stop drinking and mixing with his ilk at the buck?

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  31. Is the no sound approach something new at KGEM?

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  32. Nancy said she sounded like a big whiner.

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  33. Josh is talking weird.

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    1. Josh is saying "we go a little bit long." No Josh, you go a little bit long.

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    2. Josh took 5 minutes to describe 3 minute comments.

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    3. There is a whole new briskness to the proceedings, good. Walsh almost even stuck to the points, though of course
      we heard about the attendance of a meeting with no mention of the content. That will just be a constant.

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  34. Are Josh and Harabedian wearing matching ties?

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  35. It's Paulie Goosebumps! He was glad, but then he was sad. But generally he's nuts.

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    1. Paulie is embarrassing me as a human.

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    2. He just mortified his fellow Democrats on the Dais.

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  36. Good God.
    Are we really listening to Paul Hovosapian's political discharge?
    Paul may be needing some meds.

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    1. The paramedics should invite him over for an intervention.

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  37. Let's remember that Paul H. Is a good friend of Joe Mosca's

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    1. I don't think Paulie ever got over Joe's departure.

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  38. Anybody timing Stockly? 81 seconds he said.

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  39. Stockley is here to tell us about nook training.

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  40. I'm watching to see how long Moran keeps speaking at such a rapid pace. I give it til 8.
    He thinks that if he goes super fast he can still MC.

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    1. Josh might find that this pace makes it difficult to move the conversation around to him. This could result in a difficult mood swing.

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    2. Johnny is trying to ask thoughtful questions.

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  41. Josh is now slipping back into his old ways. Who's supposed to give him a kick under the table?

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    1. He requires negative reinforcement.

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  42. Staff Analyst Carlson? Is he a shrink?

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  43. Briskness gone.
    6:30-7:10

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  44. Green Committee Smart Assessment. Isn't that an oxymoron?

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  45. SMART assessments and Cost Benefit Analysis are the suggestions that Capoccia and Koerber made last time. The committee didn't get around to it, but Carlson said they will, magically enfolded into the accords. In the one meeting they had since they were given the suggestions, they had other, more important things to do.

    SMART assessments and Cost Benefit Analysis are the only necessary things at this point.

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  46. So the green group wasn't able to do their homework in regards the SMART assessment and they did not do a cost benefit study either. OOPsie! FAIL!!!!

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  47. This is another meeting where Alva didn't show up?

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  48. This is an enormous waste of time. No SMART assessments, no cost benefit analysis. Why bother? The GAC didn't do their homework.

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  49. Go Koerber! slap the Green folks around!

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  50. Great remarks Council member Koerber!
    Without the SMART & Cost Benefit, it IS incomplete and a waste of time.

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  51. Hunh. Harabedian agrees with Koerber about this bad work from the GAC. So does Capoccia. This dog is going to get sent back to the pound.

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    1. You weren't listening closely enough. Harabedian just very smoothly agreed with both sides.
      It is incomplete information, but we can go over the accords.

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  52. Focus on reducing our costs - Capoccia.
    Worth his weight in gold.

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  53. How sweet. Nancy is all dressed in green. Is it St. Paddy's Day?

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    1. kelp never looked so misplaced

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  54. How did Nancy get to be the age she is and not know that "the other kids are doing it" is not a good argument.

    If it can't be measured, how can you argue for it.

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  55. Somebody needs to ask Nancy if she knows what a SMART analysis is.

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  56. wow! Nancy is making an argument that our little city can't affect the whole environment. In making is argument, she is in effect, bashing the sacred cow of AB32. She's defeating her own bias.

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  57. Josh is trying desperately to save this mess.

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  58. Josh is going on and on.

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    1. Walsh wants a robust conversation on things that aren't measurable.

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    2. Walsh is a lot of wind.

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  59. Josh is nervous - his voice is wavering.

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    1. It's the speed.
      The speed at which he is obligated to talk tonight.

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  60. Yes Koerber! The state mandates are the staff's frigging jobs.

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  61. Ha! Koerber got the City Mgr to admit that with or without the green committee, the city will find a way to comply with state mandates. If all were fair, it would be game over right now!

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  62. Where are the green committee members? if they are such a vital part of our city government, why aren't they talking?

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    1. they must have been feeling blue tonight

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  63. I do believe that Josh and James just did an old one two. A dance move perfected offstage.

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  64. I Just Love the choreographed dance that Josh and Carlson are going through. It's a good thing I'm not there as I'd be disciplined for laughing out loud.

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  65. This is actually pretty funny - all this time to say whether they should discuss these or not.

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  66. Sounds like this Green Committee doesn't have a reason for existing.

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    1. They exist to spin wheels. Josh just said so.

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  67. Harabedian is saying that just because the GAC's work is lousy shouldn't stand in the way of them becoming a commission.

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  68. Here is the big question - Where does this green committee fit into the entire process?

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  69. How maddening for people who value efficiency. The Green Morass is contagious. The pro-committee council members can't even find the way to discuss the real issues.

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  70. The Accords are crap. Why are they wasting so much time?

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  71. Where is the Green Committee?

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  72. Oh my goodness, Harabedian wants to rename a commission that doesn't officially exist yet!

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    1. Johnny is getting ahead of himself.

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    2. He needs to hop in his green corvette and get some air.

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  73. Oh My- These accords are going to mandate what we eat?

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    1. Yes, one of the Green Committee members must be an expert on nutrition.

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  74. Hey! It's going to be 3 to 2.

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    1. The fix was always in. Welcome to Nanny Madre.

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  75. Hey, and in the midst of all this discussion, AB32 goes into effect tomorrow in California

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  76. Nancy Walsh thinks we're going to get some magic money from Washington. She's not sure what it is, but she heard about somewhere. Doesn't say where she heard about it, though.

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    1. Meetings, 8:10. She heard it at meetings, and all the other cities are doing it.

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    2. Maybe the unicorns are going to bring the money.

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  77. NANCY MAKES ME CRAZY! All she is after is grant money. Hey Nancy, that grant money is my tax payer dollars!

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    1. Pass through Money? Really Nancy, where does this pass through money originate? from our tax dollars!

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  78. Walsh is whipping up the crowd to says yes to all the money coming our way. We need to get our plans together in one place because the bucks are coming.
    Is that what you call Cost Benefit analysis?

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  79. Nancy doesn't seem to be aware that the federal govt is $15 trillion dollars in debt. Pass through money, what an idiot.

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  80. Nancy, please quit talking! You only show your stupidity more clearly by doing so. On second thought, perhaps she should monopolize the discussion.

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  81. Ok,If James Carlson is "Analyst Carlson". Do we need to address Paul Alva as "Expert Alva" ?

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  82. Do I understand correctly that tonight's meeting is being used to prune down the homework that was the responsibility of the Green Committee?

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  83. Where is Expert Alva? You'd think that someone who is going to save the city would at least have a sentence or two for us.

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  84. hey Harabedian an environmentally beneficial job is creating compost.

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    1. Harabedian is all about other people doing green stuff. Just don't touch his big 8 cylinder Corvette.

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  85. Cappocia and Koerber are challenging the big enchilada, Action Item 21. Let's see what the 3 meat puppets do.

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  86. Ok, so now the Green Committee's homework has been lessened, I hope they can get it done the second time around.

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  87. Commitments and goals instead of accords.
    Really?
    That's the best Harabedian could do?

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    1. That took an hour and a half. Great to see the City Council is making a more efficient use of the peoples time.

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  88. Commitments and goals. Nancy: "Oh, I'll second it!"

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  89. If the Green Committee had to ever take a real action in the real world, they would all be sunk.

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  90. "What is a commitment? What is a goal?"
    Is Josh kidding?

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  91. Nice point Koerber - they should be true to the origin of their document, the UN.

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    1. The name of the outhouse has changed. However, the product has stayed the same.

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    2. "No, no, we got it from the UN, but now it has absolutely nothing to do with the UN!"

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    3. Josh said the Green Committee was doing this because "Councilman Koerber, you asked them to."
      Baloney.

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    4. Oh Josh, so what if we call the question? it can be voted down and debate can continue.

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    5. I don't think Koerber ever said a new name would make the Accords stink less.

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  92. Ok so changing the name protects the innocent? If they are not named accords, then even if we follow the UN accords,but we call them so mething else, then we re not following the accords? what kind of surrealistic city are we living in? is this Clockwork Orange?

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    1. Where is Analyst George Orwell?

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    2. No 8:37, it's the Ministry of Truth.

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  93. Harabedian is lauding the COG. Keenly developed sense of ethics in the boy.

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    1. Oh he's good. Every time he's mentioned the COG, he says "We." "We are running efficient meetings," "We are working on that." He's all "We" with the COG.

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    2. I suspect the Dem Central Committee told Johnny if he wants to be an Assemblyman someday he will have to be nice to the COG.

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  94. Josh has entirely lost all of his new style - he is again verbose, giving detailed explanations of all his opinions at every opportunity, and monopolizing the chair position in exactly the way that most wastes everybody's time.

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  95. Leave it to the Mayor to bring up Honey BooBoo.

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    1. His friend Bob has pictures.

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  96. Oh my goodness, the city atty is offering an opinion! And it passed! go Koerber and thn you Capoccia for supporting it!

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  97. Josh brought the parking lot issue to the council for his buds who park illegally after midnight and are bummed out when their cars are towed.
    Maybe the Buc should offer cots.

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    1. Anyone here think that maybe Josh was one of them?

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  98. Oh No! A conflict for Josh! where dill his Buc friends park if there is no overnight parking on Auburn?

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    1. Actually he was OK on this one - he just wanted the towing to stop. Bet that'll get him a few rounds on the house.

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    2. The Buc's customers shouldn't be driving. I hope the City Council didn't just kill somebody.

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  99. Hey, where's the Buxton's goals on this new Strategic Plan? Nancy? Nancy?

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  100. Here's my goal for the city| don't use the word "sustainability" ever. And truthfully, are there really ant new goals here? How about a goal that the State of California and e Feds just leave us alone?

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  101. You know, De Alcorn was right oh so long ago when he suggested that the green committee become a water committee..Smart guy, that De Alcorn.

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  102. I'd like to thank everyone who participated in Live City Council Meeting Blogging tonight. This is now the 3rd time we've done this, and it continues to grow. Thanks!

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  103. I want to thank all of the people who offered a detailed account of the meeting. I laughed a lot, and felt like I was there in spirit agreeing with you. You Tattlers are a good bunch!

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  104. That unfortunate thing is that there's no way that I can see for voters to have any say about any of this nonsense. At election time there's little information about the activities of these anonymous commissions, and between elections there's nothing we can do about any of this. I suppose the one hope is to replace the majorities on city councils and abolish these infernal commissions lock stock and barrel. But is that even possible?

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