Monday, November 5, 2012

Tattler 3rd Party Presidential Candidate Review

I understand that this is pretty much of a long shot, but then again this is a long shot topic. What are the odds that you might not actually like either of the two heavily marketed candidates for President, so much so that you might consider voting for one of the far less known third party name brands? According to national polling data, should that be the case you would number amongst about 1.2% of all the folks that will be voting for a president tomorrow. Statistically a low enough figure. Then again, with a projected turnout Tuesday of as much as 90 million people nationwide, you are talking about approximately a million or so dissenting folks. At least you would not be alone.

If you think about it that is a decent amount of people. When you consider that billions of dollars have been spent touting the virtues of just two men, and you couple that with the saturation media coverage of just these two obviously very special individuals, it is a wonder that a million people might choose to step beyond the Skippy versus Jif universe and cast a vote for someone whose name most people wouldn't even recognize. Even if they tried.

There is, of course, the "you're throwing away your vote" argument that gets tossed at anyone who might admit to not wanting to cast their ballot for the two major market candidates. Something that I have always had a problem with. How can you be throwing away your vote when you are casting it for the individual who most clearly represents your beliefs? Do your views make you a throwaway as well? Should you change them so you fit in better with the other kids?

And look at it this way, in California today less than 30% of all registered voters are Republican. The GOP was unable to elect even one of their candidates to statewide office in 2010. So would you be willing to say that you are throwing away your vote if you don't vote for Democrats? Are you ready to concede that California is a one-party state, and vote that way because otherwise your vote won't count?

There are six candidates for President and on the California ballot this year. Four of them are third party candidates. Since we here at The Tattler often report on things no other local news venue cares to touch, we figured it was our duty to list them here along with some of the verbiage found on their websites. We have also provided links to those sites should you wish to read more. I'm not saying that you are wrong if you are set on casting a vote for one of the big boys, I'm just want you to know there are other options as well. It's what we do here.

The candidates listed here are in the order that they appear on the California ballot.

Gary Johnson/Libertarian (click here): Governor Johnson, who has been referred to as the ‘most fiscally conservative Governor’ in the country, was the Republican Governor of New Mexico from 1995-2003.

A successful businessman before running for office in 1994, Gov. Johnson started a door-to-door handyman business to help pay his way through college. Twenty years later, he had grown the firm into one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico with over 1,000 employees. Not surprisingly, Governor Johnson brings a distinctly business-like mentality to governing, believing that decisions should be made based on cost-benefit analysis rather than strict ideology.

Johnson is best known for his veto record, which includes over 750 vetoes during his time in office, more than all other governors combined and his use of the veto pen has since earned him the nickname “Governor Veto.” He cut taxes 14 times while never raising them. When he left office, New Mexico was one of only four states in the country with a balanced budget.

Term-limited, Johnson retired from public office in 2003. An avid skier, adventurer, and bicyclist, he has reached the highest peak on four of the seven continents, including Mt. Everest.

In 2009, after becoming increasingly concerned with the country’s out-of-control national debt and precarious financial situation, the Governor formed the OUR America Initiative, a 501c(4) non-profit that promotes fiscal responsibility, civil liberties, and rational public policy. He traveled to more than 30 states and spoke to over 150 conservative and libertarian groups during his time as Honorary Chairman.

He has two grown children- a daughter Seah and a son Erik and currently resides in a house he built himself in Taos, New Mexico.

Roseanne Barr/Peace and Freedom (click here): Roseanne Barr is not only known for portraying a strong, reality-based, working class woman in her groundbreaking sitcom, Roseanne; she is also recognized as an outspoken advocate for working people and all under-represented Americans and their eroding rights for more than two decades.

Now, Roseanne is channeling her energies into a run for the Presidency that is rallying the interest and involvement of supporters from all walks and stages of life and from all fifty States. She is using her recognition with the public to passionately and persistently speak on behalf of unions, women and their issues in the workplace as well as their reproductive rights, single-payer health care, homeowners facing foreclosure, active Service People and veterans, and the rights of LGBT Americans. She speaks and writes equally forcefully against the reckless dominance of the Financial Industry on our Economy, and calls for the nationalization of banks and The Federal Reserve. Roseanne opposes the two wars that are supposedly necessary to our security but that go on forever and stink of profiteering. They have drained our treasury of funds that we are told are not there for essential social programs.

A vote for Barr in 2012 is a vote against the destructive and failed War on Drugs and the corruption it breeds. Roseanne agrees with a long and growing list of qualified experts that a sane drug policy in our nation would responsibly regulate trade, generate vast revenues, and unburden Law Enforcement and the Criminal Justice system by eliminating the Black Market and its attendant horrors. Roseanne is committed to fighting against racial profiling, and she works to focus needed attention on the Prison Industrial Complex and its seminal role in our creeping culture of slave labor and the race to the bottom.

Dr. Jill Stein/Green Party (click here): Dr. Jill Stein is a mother, physician, longtime teacher of internal medicine, and pioneering environmental-health advocate.

She is the co-author of two widely-praised reports, In Harm's Way: Toxic Threats to Child Development, published in 2000, and Environmental Threats to Healthy Aging, published in 2009.  The first of these  has been translated into four languages and is used worldwide. The reports promote green local economies, sustainable agriculture, clean power, and freedom from toxic threats.

Her "Healthy People, Healthy Planet" teaching program reveals the links between human health, climate security, and green economic revitalization. This body of work has been presented at government, public health and medical conferences, and has been used to improve public policy.

Jill began to advocate for the environment as a human health issue in 1998 when she realized that politicians were simply not acting to protect children from the toxic threats emerging from current science. She offered her services to parents, teachers, community groups and a native Americans group seeking to protect their communities from toxic exposure.

Jill has testified before numerous legislative panels as well as local and state governmental bodies. She played a key role in the effort to get the Massachusetts fish advisories updated to better protect women and children from mercury contamination, which can contribute to learning disabilities and attention deficits in children. She also helped lead the successful campaign to clean up the "Filthy Five" coal plants in Massachusetts, an effort that resulted in getting coal plant regulations signed into law that were the most protective around at that time. Her testimony on the effects of mercury and dioxin contamination from the burning of waste helped preserve the Massachusetts moratorium on new trash incinerator construction in the state. 

Thomas Hoefling/American Independent (click here): Without faith there can be no justice. The two things are inextricably linked. 

What is justice? To put it most simply, it is right-doing. In terms of the law and self-government, it is doing right to all persons equally and equitably. 

But how can we possibly perfect justice in this country, as the framers of our Constitution purposed to do, if we pay no mind to the laws of nature and of nature's God? It is not possible. 

Is there a desire in your heart to help save this country and restore America's greatness? Then trust God, seek His will, and do right. Join together with your fellow citizens who are of the same mind and heart, and retake the reins of your own self-government. If enough Americans will do this, without compromise, and do it in time, there is hope for this country and for our posterity. We can, if we choose to follow God and do right, once again be a shining city on a hill. 

But if we refuse, and choose instead to be faithless and unjust by continuing to kill the babies and destroy God's institution of marriage and the natural family, our children and grandchildren, those who survive our brutal savagery, will curse us. They will rightfully convict us of squandering their precious heritage, one that was dearly bought with blood, sweat, and tears by our just and faithful forebears.

Our generation is a link in the chain between the past and the future. Please, my fellow Americans, I beg you, don't let it be broken. Strengthen the things that remain, before it is too late.

There are also some write-in options for you to consider. Former Virginia Republican Congressman Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party (click here), Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party (click here), and Jesus Christ (click here).

Whatever the candidates you choose to support, please be sure to get out and vote tomorrow. It can be a nice walk, even if it is only from your car. And you'll probably run into someone you know.

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69 comments:

  1. I like the Tattler, not the get in line run of the mill follow the crowd me too kind of information. This writer has more news writing skills in his little finger than the rest have combined.

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    1. You never know what to expect, that is for sure.

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  2. Despite all the twisted media polling, the fact remains that Obama destroyed the economy and spent needless amounts of money borrowed from China.

    Mitt Rommey will win with 300 electoral votes and a 5 percent lead in the vote. Mitt will unravel Obamacare and quite borrowing our kids money.

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    1. To me Romney is a lot like Georgie Bush. He inherited his name and connections from a wealthy and politically powerful father, and then went on to make a whole lot of money producing very little. Another member of the Royal Republicans who seem to believe that it is their right to sell of this country piece by piece to the Chinese and other interested parties.

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    2. 6:49, Obama destroyed the economy? Nothing to do with that disastrous Bush reign, or the world wide economic collapse - or does that take the ease out of lazy thinking?

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    3. 6:49....a clinical example of Romnesia, the cure is a Hannityectomy.......UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

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  3. The last man standing saysNovember 5, 2012 at 7:50 AM

    The latest statistic shows you are off on the number of Republicans that have not fled California,... it is now 22% of the electorate.
    Most have been leaving for greener pastures rather than being dragged down living in the state that has been recognized as being the economically worst place to live in the USA next to NY. Unless of course you are of the 47% category, and figure someone else will pay your bills.

    That cannot sustain itself.

    Since California cannot print its own money, it can only get worse.
    Eventually it will be the Progressive Democrats, who cannot do the math to balance a budget, will be left wondering what happened when there is nobody left to collect taxes and pay the bills.
    Vote whatever way you want, it makes no difference anymore.

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    1. Don't worry, Obama will come to the rescue.

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    2. Politics predictably swing from one side to the other. Whoever is the dominant party will not be, and whoever isn't, will.

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    3. Look on the bright side! California will never be bailed out by Federal $$ as long as the GOP controls the House.

      Gov. Moonbeam & the CA Legislature will have to figure it out. Civil Service pension cuts, anyone?

      I bet Jerry Brown wishes he could print money like the Feds.

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    4. The term is "quantitative easing." Using the term "printing money" is uncivil.

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  4. Oh, it would make a difference if everyone got involved and voted with their brains. At least, fully informed we can make the right choices for our own neighborhood. It's the lies that cause the problems. Take a picture of the ALF rendering then take a picture when it's done, then you will know who is pulling the wool over who's eyes. That's just a small example of the problems we face when we go to the polls. Get out and vote but vote knowing all 3 sides of the issues, don't be one sided.

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    1. I agree 8:10!
      I wish all candidates could send out one letter - 1 - then a rebuttal letter, and then maybe one more card.
      No TV, no radio, nothing but 3 written communications.
      Then all that money wasted on elections could be put to better use.

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  5. I will be voting for Jesus. Because right now it is going to take a few miracles to keep this country from going into financial collapse.

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    1. I'm not. That whole "Prince of Peace" thing is troublesome. Sounds to me like he would cut military spending.

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    2. I'm fine with Jesus running things. It's his self-appointed representatives that are troubling.

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    3. I agree. I have always thought that those who claim to be speaking for Jesus are making some very dangerous assumptions. I would love to see Jesus call some of them out on this.

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    4. Remember one thing. Neither one of the big party nominees is Jesus.

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    5. WWJVF? Who would Jesus vote for?

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    6. I think He is very upset about all the annoying calls he's getting from some peoples' iPhone Prayer Apps.

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  6. I don't get what OTHERS don't get about how votes are thrown away on third party candidates. Third party candidates don't have a chance in hell of winning the Presidency (or much else), thus the LACK of a vote for the Dem or Repub that most matches what a voter wants is obviously a vote FOR the Dem or Repub candidate the voter REALLY doesn't want.
    "The perfect is the enemy of the good"
    Voltaire

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    1. Right 8:31. I voted for Ross Perot, and so did twenty million other people. That's when I earned about 3rd party candidates. I don't think anyone else has gotten as close as Perot did, and that was a complete failure.

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    2. Ralph Nadar gave votes to George W Bush.

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    3. Democratic Party WonkNovember 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      Ralph Nadar gave votes to George W Bush.

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    4. Not a Democrat, 9:11.

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    5. In practice, dem and reps are pretty much the same. The fake pendulum swings so little between them. That's why I'm never afraid to vote for any third or fourth party candidate. Bedides, the electoral college ensures your vote is pretty much rendered impotent anyway. Just don't be afraid to unplug yourself from the matrix.

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  7. Casting your vote for a third-party candidate, is like choosing Brad Pitt over your husband: it is not going to happen. You can fantasize, protest, bitch and moan, but you are going to wake up with the same old reality. In this case, you get Mitt or you get Barack. Ask yourself who will be better for the world, for America, for Sierra Madre, and for you.

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    1. But if you "vote" for Brad Pitt or George Clooney, you can then look at your husband with disgust, and tell yourself you deserve better.

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    2. To thine own self be true. In the end these people don't even know you're alive.

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  8. Romney's back story is very interesting, one based on government handouts: his grandfather fled religious persecution (let's here it for the separation of Church and State) and went to Mexico where Romney's father was born. Then along comes the Mexican revolution in the early 1900's and it is unsafe to stay there. Back to the US where the family is given some repatraition funding of just under $10,000 and off they go, father and grandfather sharing this "government handout pot" and the rest if the fog of history. I have yet to find out how the money was acquired by the US government. But it was good enough then for those guys who now have it in for you all who need a leg up on occassion, ie Sandy aftermath rebuidling, etc.

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    1. Shhhh. The Mormons are quite shy about the polygamy in their past - except of course for the Mormon communities of today that still practice it.

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    2. $10,000 in 1912, that's a little hard to believe. Did you get that number from "The Internet"?

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  9. hear, hear not here (self-corrected). Just a jump on my fellow "let's correct it" friends. There, their, they're are many times to mess up in the English language. It is a trial, that's for sure.

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  10. Poor ole' Dunkirk, Ohio, where the interviewer from England found out the the depth of some political discourse is on the sleeveless dresses that Michele Obama wears. As if no one in all of Ohio owns, wears, wished they could except for their flabby triceps, a sleeveless dress.

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  11. Oh grow up Anonymous 9:02 ---- what you are saying is simply not accurate. there is no one in the Romney camp who would be against government help for something like Sandy aftermath. nice try
    P.S. Save your breath campaigning against Romney in California anyway ---- California is a NAVY BLUE state on the electoral map
    SIGH

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    1. Except that Romney has campaigned against FEMA.
      But don't let the pesky facts get in your way.

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  12. Won't Get Mosca'd Again No NoNovember 5, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    The country and state are circling the drain. One of the candidates wants to raise taxes in a tepid recovery. The other wants to tank the real estate market by limiting mortgage deductions. But I have mine. So, as Katy Perry would say, "oh well"

    Still, we can save our city. The big issue: What to do about the ALF?

    On this issue the wife and I remain one of those wacky undecideds. I know, that lumps us in with a bunch of philosophy devoid bozos, but we can't make up minds.

    I was leaning no, until Copaccia's editorial in the Patch. It includes pictures that look nothing like those on the Pro-ALF flier. In fact, it looks better. Although it is shown above street level, it has better massing, many set backs, and happy faux craftsman styling and colors. It looks nothing like the pit on Huntington. I confirmed that this improved version is the same as the final proposal shown on the city web site.

    However, Joe Mosca, or maybe Ronald Reagan, led me to trust but verify. Can anyone confirm that the picture on Coppacia's editorial matches the project as it is to be built?

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    1. The pictures on Patch make it look like a series of very charming cottages. The pictures in Henderson's paper make it look like a Chevy dealership. I have assumed I am being BS'd and am voting no. I am tired of being fibbed to by these people. I don;t believe anything they say anymore.

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    2. It doesn't actually matter what that thing is portrayed as in the pictures. Just understand that it's a very large project potentially going into the community that hasn't passed muster on the presentation. And that doesn't change the fact that it's a high-priced warehouse for seniors with no option once they need a higher level of care. That model is on the way out, it wouldn't last very long, you'd end up with a project that would deteriorate just like the SNF that was there. A better community-oriented project that's up front with the numbers would be preferable.

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    3. A little bit of exploitation for all. Very democratic.

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    4. like i said before, walk around the property. you will sense very quickly how big it will be.

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  13. The photo I received shows a large but not too tall group of buildings. In fact, all of the mountain tops can clearly be seen. I can only assume the perspective is from standing on top of the fire station.
    If the Measure passes, the city will be responsible for ensuring that the same building that is pictured will actually be built.

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    1. OK, but which picture?

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    2. The building does not block the view of the mountains - that picture.

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    3. Pick a card .... any card.

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  14. Developer and MVN Honestly Illustrate ALFNovember 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    At the Patch Council Member Capoccia responds to question re which of the various ALF styles we are voting on. The winner is "Santa Barbara Mission." My enthusiasm for the project is again deflated. Vote your tastes accordingly.

    "The picture associated with this [Patch] post was placed by Patch staff. I did not provide the picture. In any case, it is incorrect. It's an early version of the the "craftsman" style, which was changed to the current "Santa Barbara Mission" style, based on input from the public and Sierra Madre's planning commission. The picture on the mailer reflects the view as if standing in front of the fire station, and the picture on the developer's ad in the Mountain Views News is a perspective looking northwest at Sierra Madre Blvd and Hermosa. You are voting on both the mailer and recent ad version. Both are correct. The retail section is at street level, which again is a huge improvement over the existing retaining wall and the early "craftsman" version of the project. -John"

    As always, thank you to council member Capoccia for his open and honest representation of the city.

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    1. It looks like a car dealership.

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    2. The picture on the mailer doesn't show the view if you're standing in front of the fire station; it shows the view if you are standing on the second story roof of the fire station.

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  15. for most of my life i have voted in a way that made someone else say i had wasted my vote. anyone who takes the time to vote has used it well, even if i wouldn't necessarily vote the same way. all i can say is that i am grateful to live in a country where i can vote as foolishly as others say i do, and to live in a country where they can say that without fear of their being imprisoned, or worse.

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    1. Ah. So you are voting for Roseanne Barr. 'nuff said.

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    2. It is too bad we can't mix and match. My vote would go to Barrney.

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  16. What's with the empty lot between Arnolds and the SNF?

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    1. sierra madre's largest easement?

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    2. The Christmas tree easement.

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    3. ho ho ho, merry apartment complex coming soon

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  17. I might have voted for the Craftsman version. But the new "bigger and better" mission style looks like a MacMansion, and will not get my vote.

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    1. Was that one of those "November Surprises?"

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    2. Yeah, but who is surprised?

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  18. thanks for the alf flyer. not voting for that monstrosity.

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  19. I admire councilman Capoccia but do not agree with his assessment of the suitability of the Kensington for Sierra Madre.

    It is impossible for anyone to truly appreciate how huge this structure will be. The water usage can in no way be accurate. Some resiidents have had horrendous problems with the city water billing and this facility will be slurping up big amounts that they better be billed accurately for.

    Capoccia's final statement left off an adjective... this will be good for our senior citizens... Left out the modifier: wealthy!

    And ask yourself "will $40,000.00 in taxes offset the cost of city services that the tax payers will absorb?

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    1. The dark side gets the best of them.

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    2. What I object to most is this PR approach that this business exists to help elders. It does not. If an elder is helped, good, but that is not the purpose of the business, it's a side effect. And as 7:05 rightly points out, this place is only for the wealthiest elders, and that leaves a lot of locals out of the picture.
      Remember, however, that even the wealthiest residents will be given the boot if they have need of real medical assistance. The Kensington is just under the occupancy limit to require skilled nurses.

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    3. What do you figure the paramedic costs will be?

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  20. I would vote for it if it were a skilled nursing facility.

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  21. City hall is like an old car. We need to tear it down, then rebuild it. A lot of classic old cars on the road today were clunkers not all that long ago.

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  22. Flipping the channels tonight I saw a very unattractive woman on NBC who was saying that Obama did not apologize for the US in the Middle East and that he actually reduced the Federal deficit by "hundreds of millions."

    It inspired me to get up early to vote for Mitt Romney. We have a media that lies to us and a Federal Government that lied to us about Benghazi. Time to pull the plug on this Obama mess. We can get rid of that UN Ambassador who he sent to all the networks a few weeks ago on the Sunday after the staff in Benghazi was left to die.

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    1. Agreed, 9:49. Much better to see a very attractive woman call Obama a socialist and explain that Romney didn't mean that 47% remark the way so many people took it.

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    2. Obama ain't no apologist but the US does have a lot of apologizing to do for its 60+ years of horrible foreign policy in the Middle East.

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