Sunday, September 8, 2013

BuzzFeed: 14 Principled Anti-War Celebrities We Fear May Have Been Kidnapped

Where is Bruce?
(Mod: A reader has forwarded me the following  information from a site called BuzzFeed. There is now some considerable concern that many of the celebrity leaders from the previous struggles to end U.S. involvement in a war of national vanity have either been kidnapped or otherwise silenced. Obviously a need for considerable concern is there. This info from BuzzFeed:)

BuzzFeed: 14 Principled Anti-War Celebrities We Fear May Have Been Kidnapped: Our government is yet again marching us towards a war of choice in the Middle East and our non-partisan, peace-loving celebrities have gone missing since late 2008. We fear the worst (link).

1. Sheryl Crow
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“I think war is based in greed and there are huge karmic retributions that will follow. I think war is never the answer to solving any problems. The best way to solve problems is to not have enemies.”
— Sheryl Crow

2. Bruce Springsteen
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.”
— Bruce Springsteen

3. Martin Sheen
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“But I am equally against the death penalty or war — anywhere people are sacrificed for some end justifying a means.”
— Martin Sheen

4. Ed Asner
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“I also think that there is a strong streak of racism, and whenever we engage in foreign adventures. Our whole history in regime change has been of people of different color.”
— Ed Asner

5. Sean Penn
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“I think we’re past that point in human evolution where there’s such a thing as winning wars.”
— Sean Penn

6. Tim Robbins
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“It is very inspiring and amusing how many people have come out in this genuine and spontaneous way to embrace peace and reject war. It reminds us there is a human and gentle spirit out there in this world.”
— Tim Robbins

7. George Clooney
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“You can’t beat your enemy anymore through wars; instead you create an entire generation of people revenge-seeking.”
— George Clooney

8. Jackson Browne
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“American people always have to be tricked into going to war, they always have to be cajoled. I mean, there’s a long history of being lied to, of having things described in a particular way, in order to get them out of their sort of isolationist… prosperity mode and go to war.”
— Jackson Brown

9. Janeane Garofalo
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“War is failure! When you are at war, you have failed!”
— Janeane Garofalo

10. Neil Young
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“I don’t like war. I particularly don’t like the celebration of war.”
— Neil Young

11. Jessica Lange
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“Let’s talk for a minute about these masters of war, these same men that are sending our sons and our daughters, our brothers and sisters, our mothers and fathers to fight an undeclared and unconstitutional and unwinnable war for them.”
— Jessica Lange

12. Barbra Streisand
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“You know, really good artists have a way of being relevant in their time — but great artists are relevant at any time. So, in the words of William Shakespeare, ‘Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor.”
— Barbra Streisand

13. Danny Glover
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“The world has come together and said ‘no’ to this war – and we must stand with them.”
— Danny Glover

14. Susan Sarandon
LAST KNOWN PRE-2009 COMMUNICATION:
“Let us resist this war. Let us hate war in all its forms, whether the weapon used is a missile or an airplane.”
— Susan Sarandon

(Mod: A worldwide search is now underway. If you have any knowledge of their whereabouts please report what you know here. There is an awful lot at stake here, for all of us. Your silence only makes you complicit in the terrible crimes that may have been committed against these people.)

Shirley Moore speaks out on invasive policing

(Mod: Myself and a few other village worthies received an email from Shirley yesterday. I have got to be upfront with you, I am a big Shirley Moore fan. Anything she writes is always welcome on this blog. Her topic this time is certain policing practices in this town, and I believe that what she is expressing here is a frustration that is shared by many others as well. Check out what she has to say.)

I'll tell you right now I'm ready to go on a one-woman campaign to remove the Sierra Madre PD from Sierra Madre.  I cannot drive into town after dark EVER any more without worrying that a cruiser will pull in behind me and stop me for something ridiculous.

Last night, about 11:15 p.m., coming home from the laundromat, a cruiser pulled out of Howie's back parking lot (was probably lurking there for an unsuspecting victim, oh hey, like ME) and followed me down Sierra Madre Blvd. to Mountain Trail.  I knew as soon as the cruiser got behind me that the police officer driving would find some cockamamie reason to pull me over and wouldn't you know it?

As soon as I turned left onto Mountain Trail, he pulled me over.  I was bitchy because of my multiple previous experience with these dufuses and asked him why he stopped me and he said my license plate light was out.  I raked his ass over the coals for wasting my time and money and that I'd lived in this town for 20 years and never been so harassed by the police as I have in the last two (that's not counting Lisa Volpe, who tormented me for 12 years; I did not consider her a member of the police force, though she reported to them, just a glorified power whore whose initial advances I rejected - and I'm not gay, btw - and because I was so vociferously anti-big development in this town, so she made me pay for YEARS and mostly got away with it).

Officer Hare let me go with a "warning" and indicated that my approach was inappropriate. Screw him and all the rest of the SMPD.  Shall we talk about their approach to policing in this town?  I've lost my peace and cannot drive into town after dark without fear of being abused by the local PD.  How does that add value to our community?  It sure does not add value to my experience in this town.

If these police have nothing better to do than troll the streets after dark, pulling residents over for the most minor vehicle infractions (they've been doing it for quite a while; I've heard lots of other similar stories from neighbors) to raise revenue for their department, we are better off without them entirely.

They're distributing a story these days to all of the neighborhood watch teams that the recent rash of home burglaries is due to the excessive number of early releases of non-felons from the local prisons, which I find an unlikely, to say the least, association, a gross generalization and an unmitigated stretch to serve their purposes.  They are just fear-mongering to justify their value in this community, yet they cannot resolve the problem  (instead of stopping me for a license plate light out - GOD, who does that??? - that officer should have been patrolling the streets looking out for some honest to God real crime).

I cannot recall this pd performing any quality service to this community for the past 10 years at least.  Giannone's response to me the last fix-it ticket I received was that he doesn't question his officers' judgement, this after my complaint of being held at the curb for nearly 30 minutes while they ran my registration and a cop stood by the side of my car as if I were a common criminal (sure, single white female resident driving a white Toyota Celica in pretty damned good shape in a conservative town peopled almost entirely by Caucasians - what profile do I fit that would justify pulling me over and detaining me for an extended period of time for a light out????!).

I'm guessing that the captain doesn't question their judgement because he is actually directing his officers to do just what they are doing.  Whether or not I am being personally singled out for harassment is for a court to decide, based on evidence and the frequency of unjustified traffic stops, and I will likely pursue legal action against the local PD, which means more money that Sierra Madre will have to fork out to defend its position on the matter.

I'm raging mad now and I've had all that I can take from these jackasses in this town, and told the chief as much when I left him a very nasty, angry, invective peppered and loud message last night on his voice mail. I'm done.

http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

64 comments:


  1. Yes, smpd consists of a bunch of bozos who cost too much, sue us on a regular basis, and on occasion shoot us in our sleep. Yes, they spend more time sitting on santa anita and michellinda talking to their goomas on the phone than actually patrolling the city. And yes, the next crime they solve will be the first. All this would be forgiven if they weren't so nasty. Why can't they just be nice? Smile and wave to the moms and kids? They should fire the whole lot - except for officer ford who gets it - and reload (except for the guy who shot murano man).

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    1. I am frequently at one of our many parks in this city and several times I haVe seen officers come out and give the kids stickers and saying hi to all the moms and dads. You guys should dig a little deaper. This lady sounds like she's admitting to being very rude...sounds like officer Hare was just informing her of her licence plate light being out so she wouldn't get a ticket in another city....because if a sheriff or CHP polled her over you would never get off with a "warning".

      In addition all cities in LA and Orange County have had HUGE spikes in burglaries all being attributed to the early release program. The ppl that are being caught were apart of the early release program so I don't think our PD is making excuses. And wouldn't you know we haven't had any more home burglary's so I think that counts as a case solved. I think our department is doing an awesome job.

      I think we should stop with the attitudes and except responsibility for the laws that we break....if you have a problem with the "petty laws" that you get tickets for talk to Sacramento about that. Make sure your car is up to code and you won't get pulled over. Stop talking on your phones, stop speeding( 25 miles an hour) , come to a complete stop at the stop signs, and you won't get a ticket. Don't get mad when our PD does their job.

      Ps I have lived in cities that have to use the Sheriffs department you haven't seen rude or anything yet. This place will go on a crime spree. There will NEVER be anyone patrolling this town. And when they are its going to be because they were asked to do a lap. There will be no proactive officers stopping strangers, solving burglary's, helping our blind community, coming to council meetings, answering your personal questions, helping out our elderly, patrolling our schools, checking our homes when we are out of town, giving out tickets to jerks almost running over our kids in the cross walk.... I am very involved with my neighborhood and every time any of us have had any interaction with SMPD they have always been kind, proactive, informative, and serving. I have seen strong attitudes from some of my fellow SM residents and I think if we change our negative attitudes around a little that would make a lot of difference.

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  2. I agree. Officer Ford is the best cop on the Sierra Madre force.

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    1. Ford for Chief!

      You know, you shouldn't say too many things nice about him. They'll start dragging him off to those city council "closed sessions" for questioning.

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  3. I was at the meeting when the police chief delivered his important message about the burglaries in the neighborhood. I am fairly new to Sierra Madre and was rather surprised at the chief. I wondered if I could have faith in him to run down any felon. I have sent him e-mails and never get an answer. He must be oh so busy. I received a ticket as a welcoming gift, the first year I lived here. It cost me $250.00. In the pouring rain I made a left turn on Sierra Madre Blvd. into a parking space. I was told it was a U turn. The officer pointed to a sign, partially obstructed by a tree. He was standing where a movie shoot was taking place and actually ran over to give me a ticket. Since the last burglaries in our neighborhood-I have yet to see a squad car, day or night, doing any kind of patrolling. I have begun to notice the corruption in this town. I guess it's like every other government these days. It's no longer about small town communities, it's about tax dollars to be had. More condo's, less homes. I was at a Planning Commission meeting, too. What a bunch of ego's and hot air. I'm beginning to regret my move here.

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    1. Welcome to Sierra Madre. My advice is to stay off the main thoroughfares. The side streets are rarely patrolled by our guardians in blue, and if you take them you increase your chances of staying out of harm's way. (Unless, of course, you live there.) The gendarmes like the big streets where they can fire up those not very green Ford V-8 cruisers and get those scofflaw soccer moms and brightly clad bicycle guys. The real threats to the peace of our community.

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    2. I was luckier 8:17 because when I did that turning left move, a commission member was on the sidewalk and he yelled over to me that I had just made a u-turn and it could have cost me $250. The problem is most of the parking spaces are slanted, so it's not a straight left.

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    3. There are about a million of those signs on the blvd and for good reason. I'm happy they caught you clearly disregarding the laws put in place to protect our citizens. Spool many accidents have been caused because of ppl disregarding those signs. The victims of those crashes end up spending a lot more then $250 in damages not including the damages caused by the person who feels they are so much above the laws that they can go ahead and break them if they so see fit.

      High five officer. Good eye!

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    4. Spool many accidents? Are you telling a yarn here?

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    5. I am not following the thread here.

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    6. It is not a very well-knit argument.

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  4. Ed Asner sighting!

    http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/syria-why-hollywoods-anti-war-623326

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    1. Was he boldly speaking out against the invasion of Syria? What did he say?

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    2. Yes he was. Check it out.
      90% of the citizens are against the United States becoming the new Air Force of terrorists/jhadists/muslim brotherhood

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  5. I am tempted when I see a traffic ticket being given to stop and asked the poor soul what the offense was. I know they are probably not in the mood to delay any longer and have never done it. Based on what Shirley has reported here I am going to get together with her as I have another plan.

    Also, I have a flyer in my files that was left on our doorstep over years ago by a father in town whose teen aged son was being harassed. Police Chief Bettes was one of the worst and then there was Officer Abernathy who would have never been on any force anywhere but was one of Sierra Madre's "finest" due only to the fact that his daddy was a former Sierra Madre councilman.

    It is very corrupt here and it has to stop!

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  6. 8:17 Let me get this clear. You were a resident here and you got a ticket for making an illegal U-turn on Sierra Madre Blvd. Sierra Madre Blvd is a very busy street and some times so busy that movement is dangerous for many of us, pedestrians, people sitting at curb side tables, cars backing out, etc. etc. Mind you I am not a Civilian Officer of Peace "COP" but I do know that a u-turn is a dangerous move any time. Being a resident you should have been reading the many signs stating the law against U-turns, shame on you. The other side says that your obviously not the only resident that over time feels we are not being served right by those who swore to serve and protect our community. For the silent majority living in fear we need to unite so that these fears can be made to go away. How about it fellow residents, united we stand divided we fall, how can we take action without living in fear of being stopped and harassed buy this cities government. Maybe we need a citizens action committee to document all the fines and harassment's brought upon us by the SMPD.

    LETS SPEAK OUT.

    This problem may be worse than we think.

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    1. A lot of this comes down to next April's do-over vote on extending the UUT at some of the highest rates in California. That is where the rubber is going to meet the road.

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    2. Ask to go on a ride-along and see where the officers patrol. They cover more of Sierra Madre than you think.

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    3. Technically, U-turns are supposed to be made in intersections. After seeing a number of dangerous maneuvers along Sierra Madre Blvd to get a parking spot on the other side of the street, I'm not sympathetic to anyone that gets a ticket.

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    4. Correct about U-turns at intersections, but there is a very visible sign at Montecito and Baldwin also that says no U-turn. Boy, have I seen some close calls there. Surely a cuppa at Bean Town is not worth a big fine, or worse yet, a bad accident.

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  7. 9:19 don't become an accessory to a crime. Do not interfere with a police officer while he is writing a ticket or investigating a possible crime. Never give them a reason to implicate you for obstruction of justice.

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    1. I think 10:19 has got it right - I get along with police because I know they have guns. Be polite, put away any anti-authority sentiments, and follow the rules when you're around them. To me it's just common sense.

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    2. Or they might shoot you like the sleeping guy.

      Or arrest you without cause like that nice dad on July 4.

      Or arrest you for washing poop off the sidewalk like the 70 year old tea shop owner.

      Or leer at you like officer berry staring down a soccer mom with a car full of kids.

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    3. True, all those things can happen - but I don't equate getting shot with being leered at, and the guy with the poop? He went after the person with the hose. See, that's what I mean - you can't violate a city law, spray someone with a hose, and then claim innocence and persecution.

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    4. FYI:

      Not all soccer moms are saints.

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    5. One of my favorite soccer mom moments - a Climber was walking across a gas station driveway, cane preceding him, and a soccer mom in a huge SUV turned into the driveway, hitting the tip of the cane. She then kept going, exiting the gas station at another point, and leaving the Climber dazed and reaching for his cane.

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  8. I have no problem with the police here, lived here 20+ years, go downtown quit frequently, leave early in the morning, they're ok by me.

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  9. To: NSA

    Please pull all Ed Asner e-mail and personal e-data.

    Thanks.

    The President

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    1. Whatever your views are of the police, here are a few suggestions:

      Suggestion No. 1: Replace your license plate light. (Do burglars or other criminals ever remove LP lights to thwart identification? Probably.)

      Suggestion No. 2: Don't cop an attitude when pulled over by a cop. (Who do you think can cop a bigger attitude? Hint: It's a 3 letter word that begins with a "c.")

      Suggestion No. 3: Don't make illegal u-turns, roll thru stop signs, dart away from the curb cutting off traffic, etc. (Do you think your time and the second or two you save are more valuable than the safety of others?)

      Suggestion No. 4: Don't rake a cop's ass over the coals on a dark street at night unless you have an affinity for the number 20,000. (Do you enjoy the feeling of that many volts coursing through your body, followed by the joy of paying an attorney that many dollars to walk you through a guilty plea?)

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    2. The problem as it see it is a clash of cultures. People who live in Mayberry believe that the police should recognize that they are local and deserve a break once in a while. The SMPD, however, is made up of out of towners who somehow have come to believe that they need to conduct their jobs like they are in South Central LA or something. And since they cannot seem to do too much about the real criminals, the PD takes their attitude requirements out on the far easier to catch people who live here.

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    4. It's true that there are only a handful of officers with any real time in Sierra Madre. Most of the officers are fresh out of the academy and are only interested in doing their 18 months here before moving on to another department. As far as I'm concerned these current problems started when Giannone took over as Chief; a welfare recipient in uniform, using Sierra Madre tax payers to get a second pension.

      Unfortunately, we won't be able to make any serious changes to the police department until we make serious changes in City hall.

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    5. I was walking home on New Year's with friends and the police cruiser stopped in front of us in the driveway to the parking lot on Auburn BLOCKING our way! Why were we harrassed?!! I am not the only one who has been stopped walking at night and have lived in SM for 25 years. The past 5 years the police have been out of control and need to be replaced.

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    6. Cops in any town will stop anyone walking home late at night on new years....ppl are usually drinking. It's their job to stop you before you get hurt, cause a disturbing the peace, or get a drunk in public call....someone may have even called and asked to remain anonymous.

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    7. Sorry officer, but if I wanted to talk to someone I would have called a friend.

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  10. A police error from across the pond:

    The Duke of York has said he is "grateful" for an apology from police after officers challenged him in the gardens of Buckingham Palace.

    In a statement, Prince Andrew said the police had a difficult job and sometimes they "get it wrong".

    Scotland Yard confirmed it had stopped the prince and said the force had "apologised for any inconvenience".

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    1. Andy is a wild one, you know. Did the report state at what hour the misunderstanding took place?

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    2. Andy was behaving himself, coming home from "an engagement." Some poor bobby didn't know what he looked like is my bet - he has been rather eclipsed by all the other royals.

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    3. I dunno. A long night of wine and wenches could even make a royal look like anybody else.

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  11. Bruce Springsteen's biggest album was called "Born In The USA." Its message was how America's blue collar workers were being hurt by outsourcing, urban decline and foreign competition. It was released on a label now owned by Sony. Am I the only one to see the irony in that?

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  12. We are bombing Syria because a bunch of innocent kids got killed there? Watch out Chicago.

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    1. And watch out South Central LA.

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    2. And Detroit.

      All areas with tough gun control laws. Guess the bad guys are the only ones with guns?

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  13. There are two sides to every story but the truth is Sierra Madre has a Police Officers Association "POA" that has been very anti-locals for many years. I wont mention incidents but they have advertised how they hate this town. There are many wrong doings over the last 40 years that adds up to residents not feeling all that happy with the PD. We are just lucky that the Betts and Abernathys are gone but unlucky that we didn't replace them with some seasoned knowledgeable officers that are not itching for some action. AGAIN, our city government has failed to take care of it's citizens.

    Ask Mean Mayor Welch what she has to say about it all, then you'll understand the problem.

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  14. 11:18 I agree but, after many years of being nice and trying to follow the law to the letter and you get attitude for a minor infraction it could get to you. I assure you that I have always had a good attitude to our officers but have been very disappointed with their professionalism and gestapo approach to minor incidents. When this seems to go on and on over the years you start to want to see a change and when the change hasn't been for the better you just get tired of it. Everyone has a language and personality when they continually feel harassed for seemingly nothing. Ms. Moore is straight forward as to her position which is not to her best interest but I sure understand how she can feel tired of it all. I don't know her whole story but I know enough to be supportive of her feelings. SMPD needs to concentrate on catching some real bad guys not the locals. If they don't know who the locals are they need to spend more time learning who we are.

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  15. How can we get everyone's story about their experience's with the PD without getting someone in trouble?

    The truth needs to be known.

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    1. Why don't people send them into the Tattler? The Mod can put them on the blog like he did with Shirley's, but they can be anonymous.

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  16. With the Sheriffs we get a more professional cadre of law enforcers, plus we save money and don't accrue massive amounts of pension debt. I do not understand why some people have a problem with this.

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    1. If you look at the La Canada Flintridge city website, that may help some who have a problem with the Sheriffs coming in. Things are going very well there. And when La Canada had some home burglaries recently, the Sheriffs actually caught the bad guys.

      Hiring the Sheriffs is not a threat to keeping Sierra Madre a safe, small town instead of an ugly, overbuilt transit village. The threat is doing nothing when big bad decisions are made. LIke hooking up the MWD so that the town's water supply will support a lot of new condos and McMansions.

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    2. It is a rational business decision. All the SMPD has going for it at this point is the emotional attachment some feel for them. That and the support of certain politicians who pander to it. Outside of that they have nothing.

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    3. nothing can change as long as we continue to elect self serving shady opportunist.To date,they have managed to strangle the city in debt,fleeced the property owners with bogus water rates,poison our water,continuously lie to us about none existent needs...do you remember Rusty Pipes!All of this abuse is for what!To savage this community!To turn it into an urban toilet!Frankly,we deserve this.It didn't have to happen.Elections have consequences

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  17. Strange, isn't it that the Doves all hid their coop when Obama started talking war.

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    1. I don't get it why anyone cares what a celebrity says.

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    2. It was a campaign stunt that worked in 2008. Those celebrities who signed on for it have now been made to look foolish.

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    3. Truth is, those "anti-war" celebrities just hated Bush. They don't give a damn that 3X more troops have died in Afghanistan under Obama than under Bush.

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  18. I voted for Obama twice, I am a dove and I signed a petition not to bomb Syria until we have the support of the UN and our allies. And hopefully not at all!

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  19. U-turns in Downtown City Center areas are illegal even if they are not posted--as per California DMV code. Witness the double yellow lines. Noting to do with 33 or 45 degree angled parking therefor you can't make a left turn straight into one comment made earlier. By the way I have never seen street parking with right angle slots (parking lots, yes, but street parking?)

    I do know someone in Arcadia that will never come to downtown Sierra Madre again based on some infaction that he was written up for recently. Also, one of our prominent Realtor gals was ticketed a few years back for using the Fire Station drive way to turn left into, back out into the street to reverse her direction. Now that I can understand, it is a space for emergency vehicles to use for emergencies, you know. I think the Arcadia guy was using the driveway into the drive through at Bank of the West to do the same thing. He said to the officer that he couldn't believe he was being given a ticket for "such a chicken shit" thing. But I would imagine there is a code for this, too.

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  20. MOD: 11:45 am checking in again. My 11:45 am comment was a response to a Syria comment and most certainly was NOT intended to call SMPD or any of it's members "thugs." Please correct this error by either deleting the comment or posting this correction. Thank you.

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    1. What a guy - the Mod did both.

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    2. I am baffled about how that happened. My apologies.

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  21. Mod: I was posting on the prior day's column comments (as I've done before and am doing right now). In case you haven't seen it, the comment correctly appears at 11:42 am on Sat 9/7/13.

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