Tuesday, March 18, 2014

Tonight's City Council Election Debate: Is The Fix In?

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As anyone who has seen Noah Green's unfortunately revealing Facebook pictures can tell you (link), the curtain has pretty much fallen on his chances of ever winning a City Council seat in Sierra Madre. Not after having put something quite that colorful up on a public website for all the world to see.

Political office seekers just can't make mistakes like that in the Internet age. There are no real secrets anymore when it comes to publicly posted man-mannequin testimonial love photography anymore. People are going to see it, and today they can do so right from the comfort of their own homes. And judging by the continued strong traffic we see on those pictures here at The Tattler, sometimes more than once.

But this hardly means that those backing Noah Green are walking away from his candidacy. They can't replace him at this point anyway as the deadline for manchild abandonment is long past. So what do they have to lose? Just throw his campaign signs and shiny colored post cards in the trunk of the car with Gene Goss's stuff and see if maybe a miracle can't happen.

Though they cannot be all that happy about any of this. I'm certain this wasn't the outcome they'd originally hoped for.

However, there might still be one arrow left in the Noah Green for City Council campaign quiver.

Tonight's City Council debate is being sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce. And just by coincidence, or maybe not, the Vice President of Sierra Madre's branch of the worldwide Chamber of Commerce empire is none other than, you got it, Noah Green. Perhaps the first candidate for Sierra Madre's City Council ever to sponsor his own televised City Hall debate.

In other words, the biggest debate of the campaign season in town is being conducted by the very same people who first talked Noah Green into running for office in the first place. And we're talking about such highly partisan Green supporting Chamber of Commerce poobahs as Nancy Walsh, Carol Canterbury and Harriet Susan Henderson-Poole-Carter. It is a remarkably cozy arrangement, and really quite unprecedented for what has long been touted as a non-partisan event here.

Now the claim is being made by certain Chamber apologists that The League of Women Voters (Pasadena version) will actually be moderating this event, and that when it comes to any kind of political bias they are as pure as the driven snow. Except they are not. Because as many will recall, when it came time for them to keep quiet about one of the most prominent partisan political issues in recent Sierra Madre history, they took a side. They did so quite loudly, and yes, it was a very big deal.

This from the old Foothill Cities blog (link):

BREAKING NEWS: Measure V not endorsed Okay, it's only breaking news in that it has to be breaking hearts of Measure V supporters, but the League of Women Voters, Pasadena Area, came out against the controversial anti-development measure in a letter to the Star-News.

"First, Measure V removes decision-making from the hands of duly elected and appointed representatives - the City Council and the planning commission.

Second, Measure V does not encourage citizen participation in the decision-making process, because its provisions on building height and units per acre can only be amended by another initiative, a costly and inefficient process.

Third, by making land use decisions through the initiative process, consideration of potential environmental impact and comments obtained through public hearings appears to be secondary to height and density restrictions."

Here it is again, this time in the form of a letter from the President of the Pasadena League of Women Voters to the now defunct InSierraMadre.com blog (link).

The League of Women Voters, Pasadena Area, urges a No Vote on Sierra Madre's Measure V, which will be presented on the April 17th ballot. Called the Voter Empowerment Act or 2-30-13, it is an initiative amendment to Sierra Madre's general plan.

While the intent of the initiative presenters may in fact be worthy, Measure V is written in such a way as to weaken our system of government ...

We urge a No vote on Measure V. Sincerely, Sondra Hauge, President

All of which was pretty much straight off the script boilerplate. Typical of the consultant written anti-Measure V nonsense going around at that time.  

So there it is. The Chamber of Commerce's special boy Vice President will tonight be one of four candidates participating in a debate conducted by the Chamber of Commerce, and moderated by the Pasadena version of the League of Women voters. A group of apparently quite partisan people who in the past saw no reason why they shouldn't stick their long noses into Sierra Madre political business that had absolutely nothing to do with them.

After all, the same old boy network the League of Women Voters tried to help out with their Measure V problems a few years back are today some of the very people now running the Noah Green for City Council campaign. Small world, eh?

Keep your eyes and ears open tonight. Who knows what shenanigans may be afoot.

More "Goss Pledge" Problems

Yesterday we had the honor of revealing the contradictions in Gene Goss's stated promise to not accept political support from outside organizations trying to influence the results of our City Council election. In particular law firms, paid political handlers and labor unions.

It turned out that Eugenius has actually accepted the endorsement of the United Teachers of Pasadena, which is very much both a union and an outside organization. Something Goss is so proud of he included news of this endorsement prominently in his wistaria flavored full page Mountain Views News ad.

But wait, there's more. A savvy Tattler commenter has now dropped another bomb on the tarnished "Goss Pledge" with this interesting post:

According to Goss' FPPC forms, Goss' treasurer is the notorious Yolanda Miranda and Associates located at 728 W Edna Place, Covina CA.

Yolanda Miranda was also the treasurer for indicted State Senator Ron Calderon and other Calderon family members.

http://www.fppc.ca.gov/enf_letter/JulyNoViolation/ENF000.pdf - Cut and paste that link to see a nasty letter from the FPPC sent to State Senator Ron Calderon and Yolanda Miranda.

Click here to see an LA Times story detailing Yolanda filing false FPPC forms for Tom Calderon

I don't understand why Gene Goss decided he had to go all the way to Covina and hire the Calderon's treasurer for Goss' tiny little city council campaign.

What is Gene "Local Only" Goss doing getting mixed up with disgraced State Senator Ron Calderon's campaign treasurer?

Which, by the way, is the same treasurer John Harabedian used in 2012. Maybe she gave him some advice on his patchless Police postcard as well?

Wouldn't it be something if the League Of Women Voters were to ask that question tonight?

Trust me, they won't.

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193 comments:

  1. maybe Yolanda Miranda will help Goss launder his donation from the United Teachers Union and others of the same ilk. Goss has zero integrity - how can we possibly trust him on the council?

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    1. he will be on the council.

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    2. Goss and Harabedian. The Calderon wing of the Sierra Madre City Council. Maybe instead of leather executive office chairs they should sit on trash cans.

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    3. It will either be Goss or Green, take your pick. Four candidates, three seats. Even if you only vote for two, a third one will get in. I for one think the childish pictures of Green were only that, childish except for the creepy one with the doll. For that reason, I will definitely hope that Goss gets in over Green.

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    4. Eddie: I don't know if I oughta go sailin' down no hill with nothin' between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic.
      Clark: Do you really think it matters, Eddie?

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    5. Goss said today he sent back the $500. from the Pasadena Teachers, but did keep their endorsement.

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  2. The DCF (Dirt Crime Family).

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    1. Love it!!!!! 7:31 You nailed it.

      THE DCF !!!!!!!!!

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  3. So this is our second election in a row with candidates having connections to the Calderon family? Talk about your Sucker Madre.

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  4. Candidate Forums today. One at the Kiwanis at noon and one at city hall at 6 pm. Go prepared. Take a pen or pencil to write your questions. Oh, the questions that can be asked!!!!

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    1. Questions that are considered to be too probing for Green-Goss will be screened. Henderson controls both. Just like with her newspaper, only one side will be covered.

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  5. Need a "NO on UUT" yard sign? email: sierramadretattler@gmail.com, attn: The Mod and order yours today. They're quite popular.

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  6. Green + Goss = Gross

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  7. It's nice that the Tattler is bringing all this out in the open because this has been going on for years. Yes, years we have had the big outside money and special interest groups sticking their pocket books in Sierra Madres business. This outside interest has been the root of most of our towns problems. When you look at the outside interest money that fought us on Measure V it's easy to see. $180,000 plus fighting us on preserving our small town way of life, a life that we all moved here for. We use to have the best water and not so crowded streets, now look at us.

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  8. We can thank the Green and Goss campaign machine for listing the names of all their supporters. When you look at the names on that list you can see what groups are influenced by city hall. These are people who have the time in the middle of the day to go have lunch and socialize with the government in-crowed. They are being influenced by those that want to get more TAX money out of us and increase the towns density. With higher density and more taxes city hall employees can better sustain their positions on salaries and benefits. Sierra Madre's infrastructure has been left to deteriorate and we are no longer sustainable. I just hope the voters can see the truth and vote for the residents this time.

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  9. Stop the corruption - vote NO on Measure UUT.

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    1. Help spread the word....order you NO on UUT sign from the Mod today!

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  10. The League of Women Voters is definitely not an impartial organization.

    I once had a very illuminating coffee discussion with one of their leaders who came up to Altadena to school me. I had objected to a glowing press release they had written about their upcoming lunchtime speaker, a member of Occupy LA, and wondered why a "work within the system" group like LWV was lionizing lawbreaking. (As it turns out, the luncheon was cancelled because a splinter group within Occupy who hated the speaker had threatened to show up and disrupt the meeting. I couldn't have asked for more).

    While she intended to read me the riot act, I asked if this impartial organization had ever considered having a speaker from the Tea Party as well (answer: no, why would we?).

    I also pointed out a press release of another gathering -- this was before the Unaffordable Care Act was the selectively-enforced law of the land -- which was supposed to be a debate about the Act. There were no opposition speakers -- the debate was only about "how fast do we do it" and "how big do we make it." She said that when the League described itself as non-partisan, it means "not endorsing a candidate." Other than that, she admitted they had a social/political point of view. She also said she didn't know why a political conservative would join their organization.

    Then she grilled me about my thoughts on gay marriage -- which had nothing to do anything we were talking about, and I said so -- but she was obviously looking for some reason to dismiss me, or tie me into somebody else's agenda. It left a bad taste in my mouth, but I became much clearer about the organization after that.

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    1. WOW. The PLAGUE of WOMEN VOTERS.

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    2. We have been truly disappointed in what has happened to the League. At one time, they really were non-partisan and worked to inform voters about issues, comprehensively. Here in Sierra Madre they ignored important questions in a candidates' debate that took place right before Measure V, and allowed Joe Mosca to wiggle around so much that it added to the his lies and helped him win.
      Sorry to say, haven't given a thought to the League since.

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  11. Oh Sage, you hit it right on the button.

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  12. Will questions be taken by the candidate's or we have to write them out in advance? I would attend if I thought for an instance that I could ask a REAL question.

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    1. Cards probably. That is the way it has been in the past. The LOWV gets to pick what gets asked. I suspect they are getting instructions from the Chamber.

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    2. They will NOT pick cards that are most relevant - nothing hot button. Only pablum candidate spiel, like Green's "I'm in favor of more water."

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    3. Green made a definite gaff this afternoon when he proclaimed that the water UUT does not go into the General Fund, but stays in the water department. He is also touting the gray water ordinance as if it hasn't been addressed or passed by the council the past two meetings.

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    4. Green said in the Looney View News that he'd like to see the city do something for Halloween

      clueless and a crybaby

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  13. STOP THE DIRT CRIME FAMILY (DCF)
    Put up a NO on UUT TAX INCREASE
    Don't give these criminals anymore of our hard earned money!
    Order a sign today....NO ON THE UUT

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  14. Cut the money supply...No on UUT....

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    1. Unfortunately the City has demonstrated its intent to punish the voters before it will cut back on staff, spending, and favorite programs. The handwriting is on the wall: the Library, the Seniors' lunch program, televising City Council and Planning Commission meetings, street projects, and maintenance will fall to the fiscal axe before a single "FTE" will be dethroned or a health care package defunded. See? It is all the residents' fault. They were against the UUT.

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    2. The voice of experience there at 10:57.
      Damn.

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    3. In this day and age, we need to revise the old saying to read, "Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned."
      ~Milton Friedman

      Milton Friedman (31 July 1912 – 16 November 2006) was an American economist noted for his support for free markets and a reduction in the size of government. In 1976 he was awarded a Nobel Prize in Economics.

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    4. If we take away the money... Stops them!!!

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    5. Milton Friedman was Democracys worse enemy, burn in hell Milt.....Peace Prize my ass, his economic ideology brought more misery to third world countries, his policies subverted democratic regimes from pole to pole.

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  15. Starve the Beast

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    1. It would make them humble and much more willing to listen to us.

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  16. this morning as i approached sm blvd on my way to work, an s&s construction company truck went ahead and barreled on through the four way. thank you sierra madre for voting in the alf.

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  17. Will one of you TOWNIES buy Buc Naked a belt?March 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    saw old noah pants out hustlin' about, tossing up his signs yesterday. darned if his britches weren't falling off.

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    1. Moon over Madre.

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    2. Someone told Noah tonight is his last shot at winning any votes, so he must have figured he should get some signs out.

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    3. Signs? We don't need no stinkin" signs.
      ~ Noah Pants

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  18. my personal photographer, Townie Selfie, was a little slow on the camera draw.

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  19. Anybody have news from the Kiwanis debate? Also known as the debate for the leisured class? Working man wants to know.

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    1. Noah played the old Mosca "Poor Me" card today at the end of the Kiwanis debate. Instead of wrapping up he said he has been beaten up in this race and even considered quitting. He said his wife has also suffered terribly but he decided to keep walking and found the citizens have been extremely supportive and he wanted to thank everyone for their understanding and support. What a dope. I saw the same people who fell for the Mosca trick falling for it again with Green. Nothing like getting the little old ladies from Sierra Madre to feel motherly towards you to win an election.

      Both Rachelle and Denise did very well in keeping to the issues, were well informed, and covered the subjects well. Goss did o.k. but was not as accurate in some of his statements as he could have been. It was obvious that Green doesn't know a thing, and was echoing the others for many of his points.

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    2. sure Noah, I understand that you are a childish bore and I support you if you quit

      otherwise, I'm not voting for you

      not sure how his wife suffered but let's play the sympathy card

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    3. Well, his wife is an actress, seriously, his wife is an actress. How would we know if she was playing the sympathy card or a suffering wife? Go to her web site. There she is in a plainly naked photo. It's no surprise she thinks the "honeymoon" buck naked photos are playful. I'm sure they are both fun to hang with and a great couple to invite to a party. But as a councilman in a time of very serious financial and developmental issues I'm not sure he's the best choice.

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  20. Noah cried during his closing speech saying it was always his dream to run for office and that after the pics came out he was so depressed he had trouble getting out of bed and thanked the audience for "saving" him and rekindling his campaign.

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    1. Pathetic. Instead of leadership we get someone who posts lewd pictures of himself on Facebook and then cries when people see them. Is this what our city had come to?

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    2. Yes, this is what our city has been reduced to. First Nancy Pants, now weepy Noah. I wonder if he gets on the council if he will cry or have the vapors like Mosca did when things didn't go his way. Johnny the Mayor will have to take breaks every few minutes for Noah to compose himself.

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    3. I'm not that thrilled about a dude who cries and moans that it was always his dream to run for political office...

      especially since he moved into SM and after living here 18 months he decides to run for office

      with that kind of instability, we don't need him on the Council

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    4. he wasn't that depressed that it didn't stop him from posting the pics

      what a whiner

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    5. What a freak show.

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  22. great, this is what the city needs....a bawling babbling lawyer

    waaaaaaaaaaaa

    boo hoo

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    1. Maybe Noah cries when he fires people at work.

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  23. I cry for the parents who will have to explain to their small children how the man in those awful pictures was elected to a position of high honor in our community.

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    1. Can you tell me what kind of parent would let their small children view those "awful" pictures in the first place? Those kids have far more serious problems with internet access than Buc Naked's Facebook page.

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    2. You're right. People will feel real community pride when they are forced to hide the true nature of a city councilmember from their children.

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  24. We received Denise Delmar's newsletter today. Sierra Madre is very lucky to have a woman of her experience and intellect running in the City Council race. Not a litany of what she WILL do! A well documented explanation of what she HAS done. And a Sierra Madre resident since 2008! That's SIX years residency before running for office. During that time she chaired one of the most prestigious committees the City has. She emerged a stronger chairperson after numerous attempts by Joe Mosca and Nancy Walsh to derail her stellar performance with their nasty, mean unprofessional personal attacks.

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  25. Will Noah cry again for his Chamber of Commerce debate?

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  26. KGEM is in rare form tonight. A black and white still and static. Is it 1948?

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  27. And theyre off! Some more off than others.

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  28. I am Noah Green. I am an attorney. I take pictures. I cry.

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  29. Noah knows there's a drought. I feel better.

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  30. Lake Mead looks like a bathtub. It is in Nevada.

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  31. Good opener from Rachelle.

    Chambers are only about half full.

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  32. Gene is committed.

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  33. Goss says his first allegiance is "our town." what about the Pledge of Allegiance he just took at the start of the meeting.

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  34. Gene is saying he won't accept contributions from outside organizations. On his website he says he will not accept support of any kind from labor unions, etc. That is a change of message.

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    1. Maybe he is secessionist.

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  35. Gene is talking about the will of the people. Not bad for a guy with connections to the Calderon family.

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  36. Arizmendi and Delmar just did a good job of emphasizing that council members need to listen. Now Goss is too. No doubt Green will also.
    Shows you it was a worthless question.

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  37. Noah has read city council agendas.

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  38. Green said he has attended lots of council meetings?
    That's a lie.
    Or maybe his "lots" means 2 or 3.

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    1. Lots means several, as in he has lived in Sierra Madre for several years.

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  39. Good to Denise say she is against the UUT.

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  40. Delmar: get the budget in line with what the citizens can afford. Yes!!!
    Cut consultants, yes!

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  41. Goss has supporters on both sides of the UUT issue. Really?

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  42. Noah just lied about the UUT tax increase. I hope his nose doesn't grow.

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    1. He'll need a bigger kleenex when he starts to cry.

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  43. Green is saying it's not a tax increase, and trotting out the low income exemption again. He is passionate about being fair to city staff.

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    1. Just what we need - another council member who will sacrifice the residents for the staff.

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  44. Did Green just say "We are adults."???

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    1. Who do you mean by we, boy?

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  45. Arizmendi - right on about the water rate hike funds needing to go to water, and thank you for calling the UUT the tax increase it is.

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  46. Goss just admitted there's a "tax cut coming in 2 years."

    Damn right, vote NO on UUT.

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  47. Noah just said he is easy.

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    1. Yes, and that he will continue to be when he is on the council. Huh.

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  48. I can't take Green seriously. It's like he's pretending - he just said "as adults" again.
    Is this his intentional spin? Repeat the word 'adult' many times?
    Very funny.

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  49. Rachelle is kicking butt.

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    1. If she keeps it up she will pick p a lot of votes.

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  50. Noah just admitted he knows nothing about the planning commission or the general plan. He is lost when he has to go first.

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  51. Green just said he knew nothing about the General Plan.
    And he's running for council?

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  52. Goss said he knows he doesn't know everything. Many agree.

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  53. Rachelle wants to look at a building moratorium. Yes!

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  54. Delmar is right on about the water.

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  55. They all think they need to think. And discuss.
    Another sign of irrelevant speech.

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  56. Goss did OK on the water stuff too.

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    1. He's got the best background what with the dam at the ranch and the sewer job and all that. But all these answers are pat and practiced.

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  58. Green has studied up on the water solutions.

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  60. What is your background experience and knowledge of water?
    When did that become a qualification for a candidate.

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  61. Goss can't remember the old saw.

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  63. Noah knows a lot about water because he met with Bruce Inman.

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    1. Wow, who was zooming who in those conversations?
      Do you think a genuinely meaningful sentence was spoken once?

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  64. Green is just obviously young and inexperienced.

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    1. You have to work to achieve that kind of knowledge. Green has not done the work.

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    2. Gene loves history.

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    3. Gene is history.

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  65. Noah wants to compromise with developers.

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    1. That was a loud shout out for development.
      He's no environmentalist, no matter what he says.
      If he gets elected, Sierra Madre won't have a chance.

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    2. He sang the praises of Doyle, Stockly and Lambdin. He is big development all the way. What a phony.

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  66. Green wants to work deals and avoid litigation. That means cave into developers. Glad he spit it out like that.

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  67. Noah doesn't think Sierra Madre's green areas are worth going to court to defend. Who does that sound like?

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  68. Noah wants to save our downtown by using Halloween. Spooky.

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    1. And have the Faux Farmers Market on the weekend.
      Yeah, let's make sure Taylors gets no customwrs at all - after all, it's the local shop.

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  69. The City Council isn't in charge of bringing in business Noah. That is why Chamber of Commerce candidates almost always lose. Business don't vote.

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  70. Noah just said that "kneee-jerk hard line st.ance" will get us sued.

    Hey punk, our hard line stance keep a high school and later 40 homes from being built at One Carter. Why don't you spend 3+ years on preservation before opening your mouth.

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    1. Green doesn't realize that there is a town because of all the hard line stances the majority of Sierra Madreans have held over the decades. The dunce.

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  71. There are more empty stores under this Chamber of Commerce then ever before. Good work, Noah.

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  72. City government is supposed to serve current residents. Not spend time and money attracting people who to live here or shop here.

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  73. Goss wants to encourage sales tax fraud.

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  74. Denise's best answer of the night. Open City Hall's doors.

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  75. Looks like city hall hours are going to change.....get ready for a lot of wailing from staff.

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  76. Gene Goss is a creepy beta male who would rather fire staff than cut their outrageous health and pension benefits.

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  77. Slick Goss is hooking up keeping the city hall open by passing the UUT.
    Garbage.

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  78. Noah wants to hire more staff. He'll raise taxes to do it.

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  79. Green has bought the poor overworked staff falsity hook, line and sinker.

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  80. We need a write in canidate, dead line is the 25th of March. Go with the two ladies and a write in. The "G" men are all wrong for our cityh

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  81. Delmar just did a brilliant job of outlining how staff could be brought up to snuff.

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    1. She really knows how to bring about changes in the work environment.

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  82. Gene Goss will balance the budget by raising taxes. He intends on spending every cent he can squeeze out of Sierra Madre families because he has been collecting a paycheck from the taxpayers for 30 years.

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  83. Denise is right. Why aren't the people we have getting the job done. It isn't the number, it is the quality of the workers.

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  84. Green is going after Colantuono and Levin. Yeah, he probably didn't follow the council's last discussion on it, when the council decided not to hire the legal firm that specialized in water.

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  85. Noah says our police department responds quicker than other towns. Our town is a lot smaller.

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  86. Green has got really old material - our police are the lowest paid in the world, blah blah blah.

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  87. I can drive across town in 3 mins. at the speed limit. It's 3 sq. miles.

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  88. I know Goss will probably win one of the seats, and I don't look forward to long nights of that lecturing tone.

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  89. Gene wants you to believe he loves the police more than any other candidate.

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  90. Is this the part where Noah starts crying?

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  91. Arizmendi has my vote:
    financial accountability, and control development.

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  92. Gene Goss wants you to believe Gene Goss is good hearted and sincere as he picks your pocket. He and his wife are both lifetime government employees and dammit you will pay for the things Gene wants and needs.

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  93. Gene says we can do better. Maybe he'll sell bonds to do it.

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  95. Noah is singing the praises of Bart Doyle? Mr. Interest Only Bond Payments? Smooth. And the monastery is an explosive issue? What drug is he on?

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  96. News flash Goss - Sierra Madre law doesn't allow you to seize private property just because you trespassed on it with your son.

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  97. Noah always wanted to run for city council. Too bad he didn't keep his clothes on..

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    1. I guess you are not one of the smart people he was talking about, 7:32. He thinks we are smart now, and I didn't hear anything about Townies....

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  98. Green just told the Passionist Fathers organization that he was totally into developing the monastery!
    That was a one hundred percent message of surrender and capitulation.

    Keep him as far away as possible from any negotiations.

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  99. Noah says he found out that we are smarter than he thought when he first decided to run. You betcha we are Noah. That's why you have been chopped up like the East Coast obnoxious jerk u are.

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    1. Nice that Noah finally got to meet the people of Sierra Madre. We're smart. Who knew?

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    2. Isn't there enough to criticize without getting geographical?

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    3. Historically it applies. He is a carpetbagger.

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  100. Delmar's closing rermarks were excellent.

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    1. She has read the line item budget, and that's why she's confident the UUT can fail and we'll be fine. Good for her.

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    2. Delmar actually knows how to work. Could be the start of a revolution.

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    3. I imagine that city staff is reallllly hoping she won't win.

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    4. She could really cut into their mellow lifestyles. It must horrify them.

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    5. They will be frightened of the work load at first, but as she said, they'll get training if they need it. In other words, there are actually productive solutions to the constant complaints staff makes.
      But it'll mean giving up being victims, and that can be tough.

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  101. The verdict:
    Rachelle impressed.
    Denise is strong and ethical.
    Gene Goss will say anything to get elected.
    Noah is a very angry little guy.

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  102. Damn. Why didn't Noah cry? Was that a Kiwanis exclusive?

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    1. I think he was feeling too frisky about getting the message out to have a bidding war for developing the monastery.
      The fellow used every other old Dirt hustle, so "develop the hillsides to preserve" was bound to have a showing.

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    2. He cried at the Kiwanis?

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    3. Scroll back a few hours 8:01.
      Apparently Green regrets posting nude and weird pictures of himself online.

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    4. Mannequin remorse.

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    5. I'm sorry Mom and Dad. I won't do it again, if you'll just help me out and let me be on the council....

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    6. Green is sorry he get caught. Just like Nixon.

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  103. My two questions that were not asked:
    1) Why does Sierra Madre pay the highest utility taxes in the state of california?
    2) Why do we offer the highest health care plans in the state to select city hall employees?

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  104. Green is really ignorant of what has gone on here in the last 20 years. Hasn't a clue.

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    1. Noah says the most mundane things about Sierra Madre like they are amazing new revelations. And for him they are because he has never heard them before. He's the newbie who wants to be king.

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    2. Not just the last 2 years, the last two weeks.

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  105. Rachelle gets our vote, so does Delmar
    We will also vote No on UUT!!
    We have 2 decent ladies we need to vote for.
    One boring puppet of the DIRTS. (DCF)
    And coming in dead last (DFL).......
    A jackass.
    Be sure and vote. NO ON THE UUT!

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    1. Exactly what I voted 7:56. Couldn't agree more.

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  106. O.K. folks, here is why none of us should even hover over the Green name on your ballot.
    1) his main platform is to support an ordinance to require gray water installation on all new development
    A. The City Council discussed, then passed an ordinance re: gray water requirements at their last council meeting. He was there.
    2) The way to bring more business to town is to have some activity on Halloween.
    A. The merchants sponsor a trick or treat in all the businesses. Afterwards there is a parade from Kersting Court to the Park where they have a costume contest. What else should they do?
    3) He visited his mom and found out that Lake Mead is low and "That's where we get our water."
    A. We do not get our water from Lake Mead.
    Let's have a contest. How many other inaccuracies can you find in Noel Green's logic?

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    1. The Colorado River water in the MWD system DOES go through Lake Mead on its way to California.

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  107. Delmar and Rachalle, informed, experienced and intelligent.
    Send the message that the other 2 are not worthy by not voting them in.
    NO NO NO on the UUT.
    Our City will change, it will.

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    1. With someone like Delmar shaping up city staff, it could.

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  108. What a wonderful opportunity the City Council Debate was for the voters of Sierra Madre to preview Noah (Nopants) Green's (lack of) grasp of the issues and responses to serious questions for which he was ill prepared to make. And televised! Three candidates will win. Hopefully two of those three will be Rachelle, Denise; and regretfully Gene. Stay tuned folks as the Townies ramp up the poo slinging at Rachelle and Denise in an attempt to elect their chosen ones.

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  109. And don't forget to get a No On UUT sign for your yard!

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  110. so what's with Noah mentioning Stockly, Lambdin, etc. as the council that "saved" 10 million in reserve funds so they could fund the last water repair. really? either Noah is a total idiot or a liar or both. Isn't this why we have such a huge bond fund debt?

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    1. Green is only repeating what he has been told. Clearly, he has not done his due diligence (like many other past and present council members), which doesn't bode well should he be elected to the Council.

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  111. Anyone know if the debate will be replayed on ch. 3 ?

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  112. Noah Green came across as uniformed, childish and praised the arrogant fools that got us in the water mess

    what a freakin idiot



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  113. Gene has the same droning mannerisms of John Buchanan

    loves to hear himself talk and everybody else wants him to shut up and listen

    he's got his ideas and that's all he needs

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    1. He does drone. But at least we were spared heavy, heaving sighs. For the time being, anyway.

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  114. Green said he wanted to mediate development at the monastery to avoid lawsuits, and another One Carter. He doesn't know that the council of 2004 gave in to the developer because of the law suit threats, and was sued anyway?

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    1. Green has a very out of date and inaccurate source.

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  115. Noah nonothing nogonna win.
    Congratulations to Denise and Rachelle, you win.
    Goss, we will be watching you, and also you John Mosca Capoccia.
    UUT also wins!!!

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  116. Horray for Rachelle and Denise!!!!
    Horray for No on the UUT.

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