Saturday, June 28, 2014

Pasadena Star News: Sierra Madre Considering Stricter Measures In Face Of Continued California Drought

Not immediate enough, Mr. McDonald?
We can see from the latest edition of the occasionally forthcoming City Manager's Report that there are three building moratorium "Public Hearing" notices that will be published as legal advertising in this weekend's Looney Views News.

In case you are not in on the joke, this unique specimen of a newspaper is our City's adjudicated weekly, and remains so pretty much by default since there is no other paper in town. To be an adjudicated publication in Sierra Madre, or any city in the once Golden State for that matter, you have to prove that your rag is actually a registered business in the town it serves. And only then can you be the paid carrier of the city's legal tidings.

Of course, putting such notices on the city's website could be done for free, but Sacramento's lobby bought adjudication laws state that in order for a legal notice to be truly legal, dead trees must be involved. So we're stuck paying "The Looney."

Since the LVN is the only fishwrapper we have, it therefore receives thousands of dollars in taxpayer money yearly to run our city's legal notices. In exchange for that generosity we got Naked Noah's candidacy for City Council, strange and irrational support for the last two failed UUT increase ballot measures, a disturbing Paul Tanaka endorsement, and a weird assurance from Harriet Susan Poole Carter Henderson herself that McMansions will be built at Mater Dolorosa. No matter what the residents of this town might have to say.

California state law at work, and yet one more instance where your tax money could be used for more rational purposes. You know, rather than things like enabling Susan's delusions of political relevance. That is, if we were actually permitted to do so.

But I digress. Here is what City Manager Elaine Aguilar states will be included as advertising in the Looney Views News this weekend. You can get this information here at no charge to the taxpayer.

WATER EMERGENCY - PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES TO NEWSPAPER
Attached are the three public hearing notices that will be appearing in Saturday’s newspaper. The City’s legally adjudicated newspaper is the Mountain Views News. The notices pertain to the three water emergency actions that the City Council requested at Tuesday night’s Council meeting.
- Resolution Implementing Phase III Water Conservation
- Urgency Ordinance Declaring the Existence of a Water Shortage Emergency and Imposing a Moratorium on the Issuance of New or Additional Water Service Connections in any Zoning District in the City
- Urgency Ordinance Establishing an Interim Moratorium Ordinance Pursuant to Government Code Section 65858 on the Issuance of all Building Permits and/or Granting of Discretionary Approvals for Construction of New Development Requiring New Water Service Connections

This will probably leave some with the impression that all three of these items will be carefully weighed at the next City Council meeting, which is scheduled to take place on July 8. However, as those who watched the most recent City Council meeting know, only the Phase III so-called "Water Conservation" measure stands much of a chance of being enacted.

Despite the lack of a public hearing having been conducted on any of these three options, both Mayor John Harabedian and Councilman Gene Goss have already let it be known that they will likely not vote for either of the two true building moratoriums, and instead prefer something that involves hitting the residents with stiff fines should they not decrease their current water usage by 30%.

Can this be a kind of punishment? One being levied by City Hall because of the widespread preservationist opposition to three McMansion developments in town? Development that certainly could prove highly profitable to certain downtown government interests, such as city employee unions? Stranger things have happened here. California leading $36,000 a year City Hall health plans for instance.

When you consider that the residents of Sierra Madre have been forced by City Hall to endure two water rate increases in four or so years, along with infrastructure so badly neglected and decayed that it turns imported SGVWMD water into various unhealthful colors, you'd think levying any further costs would be in bad taste. So to speak. But such self-awareness seems alien to Harabedian and Goss, and neither apparently has any problem hitting you with what would be a de facto third water rate increase, and in a short period of time.

The Pasadena Star News article is called "Sierra Madre considering stricter measures in face of continued California drought," and was written by Zen Vuong. There are a few quite interesting moments, and I thought I should point them out. If you wish to read the entire thing (and you should), you can do so by clicking here.

Richard McDonald, attorney for the developer of Sierra Madre’s Stonehouse lots, said it would be unfounded for the Council to vote in favor of a building moratorium and characterized the move as draconian.

“You have a number of people in the audience who are anti-development, who want to use a building moratorium to stop development,” he said. “As the city attorney told you in the beginning, you can only impose a moratorium if there is a current and immediate threat. And when your district manager is telling you you’ve got two years of water and a contract with MWD to provide you with any more that you need, and there’s no evidence of anything from MWD not providing you with what you need, then you don’t have a current and immediate threat.”

It seems extraordinary that Richard McDonald, attorney for the unidentified forces wanting to build McMansions at One Carter, believes that what is going on in Sierra Madre today is not an "immediate threat." If it isn't, then what would be? Bubonic plague? A small device nuclear war?

It is also rather myopic of Mr. McDonald to believe that this is all due to our having run out of the water we once used for all of our needs. The terrible condition of our badly neglected water infrastructure alone should be reason enough to shut down development for years. According to our newly hired water quality consultant, you might not even want to drink the stuff in a month or two due to nitrification or "blue baby syndrome."

That seems pretty current and immediate to me.

But whatever his reasons, a two year water availability window would seem to be enough time to build McMansions, sell them at a handsome profit, and then get out before the whole mess goes down in flames. And for him that apparently is business as usual.

What is comical here is McDonald then attempts to disparage concerned residents as being "anti-development." In his mind that being a very bad thing.

What these Sierra Madreans are actually trying to do is prevent the heartless exploitation of their hometown by outside big money interests, people who see a precarious two year water supply as reason enough to justify building a destructive hillside swathe of 5.5 bathroom jumbo McMansions.

I am not certain the attorney is aware, but sustainability really is a big issue in California these days. You are actually supposed to have what you use. And besides, wouldn't disclosure laws require the developer to discuss the absence of water with the potential purchasers of these elephantine "modern family" barns?

Then again, as a hire possibly representing expatriates of an at times hostile foreign economic power, chances are good that he doesn't give a damn what happens to Sierra Madre. McDonald is likely providing cover for folks who just want to exploit an asset, build their multi-million dollar McMansons, make a profit and then clear out. What happens afterwards being of absolutely no concern to any of them.

City Councilman Gene Goss said the public shouldn’t put water discoloration, water conservation and anti-development sentiment into the same box.

“We have to be very careful about trying to mix these issues just from a good, solid, clear public policy perspective,” he said. “I think it’s obvious that we the citizens have let the ball drop. We have not conserved enough water.”

Again we are witness to the myopia of an individual who doesn't seem to grasp the sustainability issue. And isn't that what this Phase III so-called water conservation thing does? Link development with water conservation?

Questioning the wisdom of widespread McMansion development during the worst drought since records began should not be treated as if it is an irrational or thoughtless act. In most communities this would be regarded as civic sanity. You don't pack in additional housing when the water supply is barely adequate for those living here already.

But what's even worse is blaming the residents for something that is not even their fault. After having endured two water rate hikes, and then water the color of old teeth, to then say they haven't been doing their part is, well, highly out of touch.

To demand that residents then cut their water use by an additional 30%, or face stiff fines for not being able to do so, seems almost unconscionable. But apparently that is the disconnect going on here.

Goss and Harabedian said Phase III would prevent new water hookups, which is also what a more highly regulated no building moratorium would do. Capoccia said he’s OK with just enacting Phase III as long as the Council self-imposes discipline that a building moratorium would have done.

It would be nice to think we have a city government that recognizes a lack of water as being a good reason to not go on a 6,000 square foot McMansion building boom. And that any effort to curb such a thing during an extreme environmental emergency need not be accompanied by sock it to the resident financial punishments.

But then again, we have a very strange city government.

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101 comments:

  1. Recall Harabedian & Goss

    Laws governing recall in California
    http://ballotpedia.org/Laws_governing_recall_in_California

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    1. Let's make sure we include John Capoccia in that mix. He is a VERY DISHONEST man. Again, draw your own conclusions. He will always vote like a paid off politician.

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    2. A recall will not work , it did not work for Mosca

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    3. Any candidate who does not support a moratorium should be recalled. We can't let them put us all at risk or kick the can down the road so that a future city council has to deal with a much larger problem.

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    4. Apples to oranges...!

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    5. Kick in $15,000 for each one you want to recall, have at least 30 dedicated workers who will spend 30 hours each - every week, and have a very, very good reason to recall, and that won't be tied in with a vote that you think is against your agenda, and you've got a recall.

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    6. That money claim is pure nonesense. What is wrong with you?

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    7. If recall doesn't work, we should be all over Goss and hold him to his campaign promises. Harabedian is a little harder to figure out where he stands.

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    8. 1:53 - It is NOT pure nonsense. Did you try to recall Mosca? I did. People who said they were so disappointed in him would refuse to sign a recall petition. Just SPEAK on July 8 - keep the pressure on!

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    9. It takes 10-15 thousand dollars to run a regular campaign for election. For a recall, you need first of all signatures for the recall, then you need candidates, then you need to run your campaign.. We barely had enough candidates to run during the regular election. Where are you going to get someone to run against the council members during a recall. A recall would be folly and a complete waste of money. If you want to run, and have the money to do it, be my guest. On the other hand, if you really want to influence the current council, write, call, email, and be at the council meetings.

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  2. Where do I start? The Attorney for the developer and their lackeys on the City Council want us to conserve more water and perhaps incur penalties so that we have more water avaiable for the developers to build McMansions and housing projects. I can understand the Attorney and developers being in favor of us residents taking quicker showers and letting our landscaping turn brown. What I can't understand is how any member of the City Council, who are supposed to represent us, would be on their side.

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    1. There is always the possibility that a couple of them have been bribed by the developers. Considering the source of some of the large amounts of foreign capital floating around these days, anything is possible.

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    2. I can't take much more of that attorney lecturing us about concerving more water so they can get their development done. To have Goss and Harabedian buying his argument is a sell-out of the residents. We need people on the City Council who want to preserve our way of life and make sure that we have sufficient water now and in the future. Take notes on what Goss and Harabedian say, because we need to hold them to account. There is too much riding on this for anyone to make a mistake.

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    3. If anyone thinks that I'm gong to conserve water even more than what I'm already doing, - to help Mr. McDonald and his client's who hide behind his shirttails, they've got another thing coming. I'll conserve more water if it helps to put Sierra Madre on a sustainable path in light of the bigger droughts to come, But I damn sure ain't doing it so outside developers can come in and build more McMansions and housing projects!

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    4. The bribery theory is interesting. Given the irrational way some of our Councilmembers have been behaving, it could be an explanation.

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    5. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER AND THE WATER WE DO HAVE IS YELLOW AND TOXIC. DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH THIS ISSUE. WE NEED A MORATORIUM NOW TO FREEZE EVERYTHING UNTIL WE FIGURE IT OUT. ISN'T THAT THE MOST PRUDENT DECISON TO MAKE. COME ON CITY COUNCIL - WAKE UP! SOMEONE TELL ME HOW YOU CAN GO WRONG WITH THAT. LIFE THE MORATORIUMS LATER IF THAT IS WARRANTED. WHILE IF WE ALLOW MORE DEVELOPMENT, WE COULD HAVE AN EVEN MORE DIRE EMERGENCY. DON'T TAKE A CHANCE WITH OUR LIVES AND OUR WATER!

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    6. Thanks 8:03 for that post. I assume the all-caps is because you feel very strongly about this issue. All the people that I have talked to feel the same way.

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    7. Uh, Oh, Mr. CAPS is at it again.

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    8. His aim is true.

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    9. I think the bribery happened in Temple City when some developer tried to get some big project approved. Think it can't happen here, think again. That's the way some people do business and expect to do business.

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  3. If, god forbid, something happens to the MWD water or they pull the rug out from underneath us as Mr. Inman says is a possibility, there will be hell to pay. We have an existing problem - big enough to spend $50K to hire any outside consultant. Imagine how much bigger the problem would be if you add futher development into the mix. It just puts further strains on our water supply that makes the problem that much worse. Whether we have an occasional El Nino or not, the future for California and Sierra Madre is more severe and prolonged droughts. Sierra Madre needs to be prepared and we need to make sure we are on a sustainable path and not rely on the MWD or any other unreliable source. We need to rely on ourselves. Water is an issue that is literally a matter of life and death. Without water, Sierra Madre becomes a ghost town.

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    1. Let Mr. Inman put himself on the line about the MWD water as our solution. When asked, he seemed a bit pessimistic abouth the MWD. He doesn't want to be caught on this issue because this hits everybody. Can you imagine 10,000 angry residens or whatever the population is, if something goes wrong. There is no margin for error. That's why a freeze on everything should be enacted now.

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    2. The MWD connection is a precarous one. The residents of Sierra Madre need to rely on themselves and our own water source.

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    3. There are water problems all over the state. The dought is only going to get worse. The time to plan for the future is now.

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  4. The Monastery folks sent some email that talked about how warmer temperatures caused algae in MWD water for about 3 million people in other cities. I, for one, want to be able to rely on our own wells and not be dependant upon the MWD or on how their other customers conserve water. Inman said that, because we are not a customer of MWD, they can cut us off if they need to, I presume after our contract expires in two years. That's hardly reassurring. Do we want to allow more development so that what is already a severe problem could become a really dire problem. Let's make good decision now and plan for the future.

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    1. I saw that about the algae. We never had those kinds of problems with Sierra Madre's wells as I recall. I don't want to rely on outside and unreliable sources. Sierra Madre needs to have control over its own destiny.

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    2. Build the McMansions at Mater Dolorosa, One Carter and Stonehouse and MWD water is all we'll ever see.

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    3. A City Council needs to plan ahead for once and not wait until we run out of water. That's the responsbile thing to do.

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    4. Just like that lawyer who spoke up at the last council meeting, the point people at Mater Dolorosa like Jerry Pierson and Cameron Thornton don't give a rip about Sierra Madre. They don't live in Sierra Madre and don't care what happens. They all want their money and then they're gone. It just the greed.

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  5. "But then again, we have a very strange city government." Yes, we do.

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  6. Right now, the only place to get news about all of this is the Tattler and the people trying to preserve Mater Dolorosa. Go to their website at www.stopmonasteryhousingproject.com or send them an email at savemonastery@gmail.com. They are pretty good about monitoring news about the development and water issue which are linked together like siamese twins. Get on their list and tell your friends too. The Star News also has been covering this story. If we had to rely on our local publications, we'd all be out in the cold.

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    1. I'm sure that if there is a message about water and moratoriums that city hall wants to get out, it will be in The Looney today. That paper is a lot like Pravda was in the old Soviet Union.

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    2. The Mountain Views has agendas that nobody can figure out except to say that they don't seem to be looking out for this town.

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    3. And you pay for it.

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    4. I'm tired of the local newspapers not supporting the residents. If the Tattler didn't talk about these important issues none of us would even be aware of it. The local papers should serve this purpose. They need to get off their rear ends and do some reporting.

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    5. The residents need to find a newspaper that is looking out for Sierra Madre. The Sierra Madre Weekly should take up that banner if they were smart and displace the Looney Tunes News.

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  7. Goss was the most vocal City Council member at the last meeting toeing the line of Mr. McDonald. If Goss wants to cast his lot with those folks, let him do it and face the consequences. He campaigned on the promise to look out for the residents. He's aleady off to a bad start. Not a good sign at all for what's to come.

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    1. Goss is going to have alot of angry constituents if he doesn't do his homework and start looking out for the residents.

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    2. Give Goss a chance to gather up the information. He's a smart guy. He'll figure out what's best for Sierrra Madre. Afterall, he does live in this town too and you'd have to think he doesn't want us to run out of water either.

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    3. I doubt it. I think the "liar" postcard had it right. What he was doing using the Calderon's treasurer still bugs me. I don't think he is on the level at all.

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    4. Gene Goss is obviously a very dishonest man. Draw your own conclusions, but this is mine.
      Judge these people by the company they keep.

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    5. Goss also said he would not take $ or any endorsements from outside groups yet he did that

      he is a John Buchanan clone - was endorsed by Buchanan and Nancy Walsh

      he's pretending to be a Councilmember so he can lecture about it at the prestigious Long Beach City College lol

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    6. Give Goss a chance to gather up information?

      he came to the Council meeting with a prepared statement before he had the facts so I don't think he will be fair

      if only we had had a 3rd candidate besides him and Noah where's my pants Green

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    7. I voted for Gene Goss thinking that he wouldn't be just another politician looking out for the specail interests and not the residents. So far, it looks llike I am wrong.

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    8. That's OK. I voted for Capoccia because I thought he would hold the line on taxes. We all make mistakes. Pols in this town lie. Not all, but it is always surprising who does.

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    9. Let's wait for the actual vote on July 8th and see whose willing to sell out the city to outside interests. I'm in a wait and see mode for now before I condemn anybody. That vote will tell us all we need to know.

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    10. Make them vote. That is how we'll know who they work for.

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    11. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, be there on July 8 - then hold Goss and Harabedian accountable for what they do or refuse to do about our water situation and overdevelopment. SPEAK UP! I do!

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  8. I voted for Goss and he's already turing his back on the residents. And this issue is not even a close call. We're talking about water Gene. We have to have it. Everybody liked our old water better. We need to get back to that and got away from this false life preserver from the MWD. What if something happens to the MWD water. What if they are incompetant or make a mistake or their customers use too much water and they run out? Where would that leave Sierra Madre?

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    1. I didn't vote for Goss and left my 3rd choice blank.

      I can't believe that you are surprised that Goss is turning his back on the residents. He came in last place the previous election and thought so highly of himself and was encouraged by our utility company lawyer Buchanan to run again.

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    2. Those who voted for him should consider contacting Mr. Gene Goss and express their concerns. Then provide his response here. He should do his job and respond to each individual .

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    3. That's right 9:53, let these people know how we feel at the City Council meeting on July 8th. There's too much riding on this to gete it wrong. Goss needs to hear an earful from his constituents.

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    4. A friend to all is a friend to none.

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    5. Where's Neil the Pig when we need him?

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    6. He has shifted his investments from land use to corn futures. What does that tell you?

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    7. 7:45 - Why in the world did you vote for Goss? I'm 100% sure that at his first kickoff party his speech was written by John Buchanan. If he has disappointed you, please speak up on July 8. Nothing will be solved by merely posting on the Tattler.

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  9. We need to pack the chambers for the July 8th meeting. Force these City Council members to listen to the people. Every resident will be affected by what happens that night. Let the developers and lawyers speak up and tell us we need to preserve more water for them. I bet that will go down real nicely with the residents of Sierra Madre. Any City Council member who wants to support Mr. McDonald will be unleashing a fury in this town the likes of which have never been seen before. Sierra Madre is all about sustainability and not more housing projects that will bring us to our knees.

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    1. Be there on July 8th and bring two friends. We need to spread the word. This decision affects every resident in Sierra Madre. You can't get any more of a basic need than the water. Without a viable water source, this town is through. Those towns that are planning for the future can get though even a 200 year drought. We need to take steps now and not stress our infrastructure and wells with any more development.

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  10. Lies and subversive tactics are more apparent to the layman in today's technological paradigm. There is a digital trail created that can be researched at any moment from everybody's finger tips. If you vote for the wrong person, from here on out it is because you did not do your due diligence via a 10 second search on Google via the device in your pocket. There are no more excuses for electing grown men who live in their parents house (John Harabedian), and have never owned a home, or somebody who moved to Sierra Madre just in time to run for city council (Josh Moran). Or the fact that another candidate has a local "internet radio show" (Gene Goss Radio Fishbowl/ Village Vine Board chair) that has a close relationship with the Loony Tunes News, and Carol Canterbury.

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    1. don't forget that Noah Green (jeez not ANOTHER lawyer) also moved into town and immediately started networking himself to run for Council, only after living here for less than two years and was clueless about the city.

      we also had Joe Mosca who did the same.

      Goss loves him some Goss doesn't he

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    2. Show me one realtor who is speaking up about preserving this town. Some of them live in this town and they are keeping their mouths shut. Its all about the commissions for these people. They are putting their financial self-interest ahead of what's best for Sierra Madre. That's disgraceful. Their silence is defeaning. Not one of them has the courage to look out for us. Why do we give them our business?

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    3. Joe Mosca didn't give them his business.

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  11. Tell everyone you know. They can speak or sit but we need to be there in force. This issue is too important not just to Tattlers but to every resident of Sierra Madre. We all use and drink the same water. We all want to put Sierra Madre on a sustainable path.

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    1. Most people in this town couldn't even tell you the name of the mayor. The politically aware population of this town is around 25%. It always sounds good to talk about making everyone aware, but try and do it sometime. The blank looks you'll get from some people are remarkable. Sorry, but we will have to do this ourselves.

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    2. You're right. A few people always carry the load for everyone else. Well, at least we can have a clear conscience that we tried our best to preserve what's best about Sierra Madre. As for the realtors in this town, it really makes me upset that not one of them has taken a stand.

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    3. You think they would. The people behind the McMansion developments aren't going to include them in any of this. They won't get to sell a single outhouse, much less a $2.5 million dollar Adele Chang monster house

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  12. And you will fail...

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    1. Are you Mrs. Flannigan, my old biology teacher?

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    1. Knew it. Flunking Flannigan we called her. The only ink in her pen was red.

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  14. Calls 'em as I sees 'em....

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  16. It looks like Mother Nature just got into the game:

    "Unprecedented level of drought in California"--Climatologist Mark Svoboda, National Drought Mitigation Center (USA Today)

    "Scenes from California's Extreme Drought: Most populous state faces extreme drought" (NBC News.com)

    And our own San Gabriel Valley Tribune: "One hundred percent of California is in a severe drought." Entire article at this link: http://www.sgvtribune.com/general-news/20140627/california-drought-blankets-entire-state-el-nino-forecast-dims

    It'll be hard for Attorney McDonald to say we don't have a water problem, but outrageous behavior is not unheard-of when greedy developers close in for the kill.

    It's too bad 'Chinatown' is rated R, or we could have public screenings for the people in town who aren't aware what's going on. From IMDb, a main theme of the movie is: "...The privatization of water through state and municipal corruption, land use and real estate. " That's entertainment.

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  17. I have read the proposed General Plan and it is no wonder the council has not approved it. Just about everything there is about preserving Sierra Madre. The council needs to pass this and do it now. I have also read the 6 million plus bond that was passed to clean up the water. So what was actually done? The council needs to vocally account for that money. We need to make sure that people are made aware of the problems the citizens are facing and the do nothing council. We need to hand out flyers, get out and talk to people, do whatever it takes. We need to be proactive. I don't see much of that being done. I have tried to volunteer, but none of the groups have asked me to do so. My home is available for a meeting of citizens. We don't have much time until July 8. We can do this.

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  18. leave it to another lawyer to say complete BS

    so, what he is saying cause we have a 2 year window with water that 2 years isn't an immediate threat and therefore Stonehouse should be able to build massive homes and accelerate the water crisis?

    what an idiot

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    1. But a well paid one.

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    2. What he meant to say was "There is no immediate threat to you residents of Sierra Madre, but a very big one to me and my income, and I'll be happy and strongly motivated to threaten the city with lawsuits."
      That's why he was there that night, and will be again. To rattle his saber.

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    3. I'm sure that should the One Carter developer decide to initiate a lawsuit, he will hire an adequate attorney.

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    4. Hui Ru Han is a gal who specializes in buying distressed real estate. And Carter aka Stonegate is mighty distressed.

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  19. Just imagine, if there were to be a building moratorium, all the people who work in Developer Servicing could actually catch up on their paper work!

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  20. I want our water back.

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    1. Don't hold your breath!

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    2. Oh Please, even first water on the Mt Wilson Trail is dry, and that is the first time I've seen that ever, and I've been hiking the trail since the early 60's. The only way we are going to get our water back is to conserve 30%, have a building moratorium, and pray for rain.

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  21. Great. The residents ask for a moratorium on development,'and Susan makes money off it. We really need to redo the way we do government in this town. What we have now isn;t working.

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    1. That is what it is all about. A whole bunch of people jumping on the gravy train.

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  22. I just got back from Chilao campground. The water tasted great! just like our water used to.Wonder where they get it? anybody know? Filled all my water jugs.............

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  23. We used to have a "rube goldberg" set up for taping our underground water (for residents) and replenishing the water removed by wells with water for our settling ponds from winter and spring rains and the spring wter that flow year round down our canal. Back then a cumbersome procedur was used to divert water from the canal to the settling ponds using a; front end loder with a very largge heavy iron plate on the front end and placing it across the canal to divert the flow into the settling ponds. It was time consuming and not very effective. This was done at Camello or Acacia Streets at the bridge (I don't remember which one). It was an easy decision for the development minded City Council to change a system that could have been upgraded,and automated for our town's use to one needed for big expansion and development. Our Setttling Ponds now sit dry and not used for the purpose intended; "Huck Finn Day" now is the settling pond's main function.

    We had great water then and the settling pond.... wells prodeced what we needed. If the wells were drying up too soon into the year we, (as did Arcada) should have drilled them much deeper to eliminaate the problem. Our "development minded Administration with Council agreement pushed the City into a "dead end canyon" with water giving control over most decisions that would be made in the future.

    Rather than modernizing this technique our then development minded Council, with Bruce Inman and Elain Aguilar leading the way, made the decision to eliminate the "settling pond system" with the admonition "it was too antiquated and did not work" and instead moved to rely totally on a new water souurce (MWD and the water infrastructure with development in mind). "Its the money stupid" and those who want it right here in Sierra Madre.




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    1. It is truly astounding that this incredible Community has been allowed to be trashed and wasted to the extent it has.Ultimately the voters are responsible for the mess .From the local news ,third rate over paid city staff and concluding with the pathetic city council persons the voters continue to elect the results were predictable!

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    2. Are you all crazy, Neither Aguilar nor Inman had anything to do with our settling basins drying up. Rather it was lack of rain. Don't any of you read the papers or listen to the news? There is no water in the State of California. As stated before, we can't drill our wells deeper, they are at rock bottom and there is nowhere to go. Arcadia is farther down stream so they are still able to pump. It seems like some of the Tattlers are still (despite education) are vastly ill informed, or just don't want to accept the fact that we are in dire straits and need to do something about it.

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    3. You need to read more carefully. This entire discussion has been all about doing something. And while it is comforting to some to think that those we pay good money to take care of these kinds of things might not be at fault, it hardly helps the situation. And I suspect that your idea of "doing something" might be the "punish the residents" plan that has been hatched by Harabedian and Goss? As we have seen with those two successive water rate increases in the last four years, just about all the blown minds running this city seem capable of is getting more money out of the residents. And to absolutely no good result. Welcome to "Phase III."

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  24. All people who destroy the hillsides will be cursed. That land is sacred.
    Fire, flood, earthquake and worse will haunt all of you.

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  25. This is a good time to review government media strategy. If Arizmendi/Delmar make a motion to take any action and the other seconds the motion then the council must discuss and VOTE on the motion. So these two would make and 2nd 4 separate motions approving a phase 3 water conservation ordinance, a water hook up moratorium, a development moratorium and then a growth management ordinance and then Goss, Harabedian and Cappocia will be forced to VOTE on those measures. Its one thing for Goss/Capoccia/Harabedian to prevaricate during discussions and quite another thing to have a VOTING RECORD opposing one or more of those measures. Harabedian and Cappocia have to face the voters in less than 2 years. Goss can be easily recalled. So make these weasels VOTE with a Arizmendi/Delmar 1-2 punch...."I make a motion to X" followed by ...."I second the motion". Fundamentally Cappocia and Goss are know-it-all jackasses who think they know better (Cappoccia is an insufferable engineer and well...Goss) but they are also cowards. Force them to vote.

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    1. It would be great if Arizmendi and Delmar made the motions on all three subjects. Do you know if they plan to do so? Is there anything we can do to encourage them to make and second the motions?

      We also need to remind all three men on the council who they represent. They do not represent the Staff or the Developers, they represent us, the residents. We, the people, do not want these developments and we have a water problem.

      Our representatives can take care of both matters by passing all three motions.

      One more thing, Those of us, since the water reduction program was put in place, who have reduced their water usage below the targets we have been given should not be punished for our good efforts by being rewarded with lower usage targets and fines. That would be Draconian.

      Barry Gold

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  26. That's government meeting (not media) stratererergry. Never forget that Goss and Cappocia are beta males. Goss in particular was desperate to gain office and he will be desperate to stay in office...his whole persona is wrapped up in it.

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  27. Council members email addresses:
    JHarabedian@cityofsierramadre.com
    JCapoccia@cityofsierramadre.com
    rarizmendi@cityofsierramadre.com
    ddelmar@cityofsierramadre.com
    ggoss@cityofsierramadre.com

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  28. Any water shortage that requires fining the public is "current and immediate."

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