Tuesday, August 12, 2014

Tonight's Special Meeting of the City Council

Even though this is a "special meeting" brought about by the failure of our adjudicated newspaper, the unusually inept Mountain Views News, to publish a public notice dealing with the water related building moratorium that was supposed to be covered a few weeks back, some normal City Council business will be attended to this evening. And you do know that will include the shifting of a whole lot of cash.

Here are two items in particular.

Just in case you never quite believed that things such as Measure UUT were mostly about pensions and benefits.


The irony here being that had the Mountain Views News published the Building Moratorium Public Notice, this meeting wouldn't be taking place tonight. I guess this shows that sometimes you really don't get what you are paying for.

As for the water related building moratorium itself, here are the options the City Council is being presented with this evening by City Staff:


All pretty much cut and dried. Since all five Councilmembers declared their intention to support Ordinance No. 1358-U at a previous meeting, there should not be any surprises and tonight's soiree should end fairly early.

I think.

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109 comments:

  1. It will end early if some dopy attorney doesn't show up to argue that we don't have a water shortage. Then, I expect our Mayor to talk endlessly about all the ins and outs of the process.

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    1. It is always about the process. Getting anywhere is a whole different story.

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    2. My money is on the CETT attorney, or a sub for him, showing up to glower.

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    3. He brings on laughter.

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    4. Comic relief!

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    5. I've Got A Million Of ThemAugust 12, 2014 at 12:09 PM

      "I'm not aware of any water shortage in Sierra Madre"

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    6. True. All you have to do is turn on the tap!

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    7. Just don't drink the water. Blech.

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    8. lawyers pfffffff

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    9. Question: How can you tell the difference between an attorney lying dead in the road and a coyote lying dead in the road?

      Answer: With the coyote, you usually see skid marks.

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    10. A man went into the Chamber of Commerce of a small town, obviously desperate. He asked the man at the counter, "Is there a criminal attorney in town?"

      The man replied, "Yes, but we can't prove it yet."

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    11. A man took a trip out West after a harrowing divorce proceeding. He stopped in a bar, and after a few drinks, stated to no one in particular, "Lawyers are horses' asses."

      One of the locals spoke up on hearing this: "Mister, watch what you say. You're in horse country.

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  2. Don't take anything for granted. Show up at the meeting and urge passage of the extension for the whole 2 years

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    1. Goss has had plenty of time to change his mind at least a dozen times

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    2. Who's on first?August 12, 2014 at 3:54 PM

      Goss was against taking outside money. They he was for it. Then he was against it.

      Or was it the other way around? I get so confused.

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  3. I am sure the lot splitter contingency will be there talking about how unfair we are being to them.

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  4. Just be at the meeting. It seems showing up, even for the boring meetings, seems to keep some of the council reasonably honest. You know who they are!

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  5. Lot splitting! How to get more for your buck! Can't be allowed.

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    1. All of the crocodile tears from our lot splitters will end this drought.

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    2. maybe they can water their dead grass with their tears.

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    3. Crocodandelions.

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  6. A $300,000 Calpers payment in the middle of August? Hmm.

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    1. OPEB includes fun stuff like health insurance for those retiring before 65. Where do I sign up for that? I'm paying for it so its covered for me, right?

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    2. It is a form of charity where you get to give but never receive.

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    3. If it's charity, I can decide not to give.

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    4. Most local govt is charity.

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  7. there's a reason why the private sector doesn't have pension plans like the public sector

    it's bad business and a ponzi scheme ripping off taxpayers

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  8. Please show up. I agree, you can't trust them. We need to show City Council we're serious.

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    1. They can get really sneaky when nobody is watching.

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  9. KGEM says "Please stand by. Starting soon...."
    Wonder if they're fibbing?

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    1. Wouldn't count on being able to see the meeting.

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    2. The meeting doesn't start at 6:00 tonight.
      Try at 6:30

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    3. Ah! Thanks. There's hope then.

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  10. No KGEM tonight. That's a really effective way of decreasing transparency.

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    1. It's too early to conclude that 6:16. Not that you can count on KGEM to come through, but the council is starting later than usual today.

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    2. I just called. They say they will have it on line tonight. Which is good. I am about 2,000 miles out of town.

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  11. I live in a rural community just outside the San Diego City limits. New Urban West wants to build 65 4000+ sq. foot tract homes on 42 acres of polluted farmland right in the middle of our neighborhood. There are calling this new development "Oak Creek". New Urban West is using the same divide and conquer tactics and donating huge sums of money to local politicians to get this through under our noses. There public outreach is terrible and they put neighbors against neighbors. Our community has banded together to stop this nonsense. Here is our website. Maybe it will help your community. http://www.escondidoneighbors.org/

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    1. Great! Thanks for posting. And maybe you already know the website for our coalition?
      http://www.stopmonasteryhousingproject.com
      We can all help each other and end the plague of over-development.

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    2. 6:19 - if you know of other communities who are up against these skunks, be sure to let us know. We all need to start talking to each other!

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  12. on the agenda tonight is an item to accept "free" police/fire radios from the county...except the county can take them back anytime with written notice. I hope they keep the old radios just in case the county snatches back these new ones some day. also, the old radios should be kept in a faraday cage to protect them from a EMP burst (solar or bomb generated) so that our police/fire will be able to use them if all other electronics are knocked out.

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    1. Hope you contacted the council members with this information.
      Most of them seem to laugh with giddiness when our City Manager stresses something is "Free".
      Of course, nothing really is...

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  13. The "Regular Meeting" sign is up on the screen. I don't care. Just as long as they show it.

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    1. 10 minutes late starting, but I'm with you - as long as it's broadcast.

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  14. Thank you council members Delmar and Arizmendi for sticking to business and not making announcements or giving thanks.

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  15. The speaker was incorrect - it was never established that homes on the edge were exempt. There are no answers because it wasn't set.

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    1. It should be every home that is next to the hillsides. That's a lot of exemptions.

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    2. The city has confused everyone, including themselves I suspect.

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  16. $400 in water penalties? She's been to city hall 4 times and nobody could help her? Spoke to Bruce about it and he didn't know?

    Sounds like business as usual.

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    1. Oh but Bruce was taking notes while she spoke.

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    2. Bruce is very concerned once the news gets out and he can no longer ignore the problem.

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  17. Shirley! A mother bear and cubs. Driven down from the hills because of a lack of water and food.

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    1. Right, they are. And we set up our homes in their habitat.

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    2. Stop calling me Shirley!

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  18. Lot of good comments about wildlife from the residents tonight.

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  19. Karin Schnaider is leaving? Damn.

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    1. She's moving to a nice part of the world.

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    2. When the ship starts to sink, well you all know the rest...we saw the lead rat Mosca jump ship first, but watch them go now as the corruption unfolds under the weight of the Hildreth's lawsuit. October should have a new staff.

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  20. All those presentations and awards are nice and everything, but so out of place at a business meeting.

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    1. They want to be liked.

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  21. what a huge waste of time with these recognition awards and crapola

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    1. So now we are all watching a photo op.

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  22. I wish her well, but I confess I'm also glad I won't have to listen to her voice.

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  23. Aguilar just talked about the "management team." A keystone Cops kind of deal?

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  24. Will the council start on the city business now? About 45 minutes in.

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  25. "At no cost to the city" Elaine - but wait, she just said if we break one, we have to repair it. That's a cost, yeah?

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  27. the city manager lied....she said they arent good for comunicating but that is completely untrue according to the report. right now they use two different radios, a VHF radio and an UHF radio that work perfectly fine. the new radios are dual vhf/uhf so they can use one radio instead of two. so the city manager's statement that the old radios are basically obsolete is a complete and total lie

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  28. Bruce has informed us that those free low flow toilets were not free. $2,200. And you still have to flush them twice.

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  29. Water police are on the way folks. I'm glad.

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  30. If the city water company has not drilled through the bedrock Bruce is speaking of, how does he know there isn;t any water beneath it?

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  31. Is it just me, or are Hawaiian shirts tacky?

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  32. Staff has been farcical about the general plan.
    If they were left alone, it would be one of those projects that never gets done.

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    1. They have been dragging their feet on the General Plan for years.

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    2. And years and years.

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  33. Does Gene Goss have eyelids?

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  34. Are we listening to staff wiggle out of work again?

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  35. Thank goodness for council member Delmar.
    She knows what she's talking about. Schooled Aguilar.
    We might actually get a general plan one day.

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    1. She has to fight both Castro and Aguilar to get any damn movement on getting the General Plan to the council.

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    2. Elaine has been fighting the General Plan all along. She needs to go. Maybe she can move north with Karin.

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    3. We wouldn't even be discussing a General Plan if not for Maryann. Took her 2 years to get the council to discuss the need for an update and longer to put the task force in place. The council did everything they could to sabatoge the effort

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  36. To think that there were people stupid enough to vote for Noah Green over Denise Delmar.

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    1. Noah would have been all over promoting Halloween and bringing a Farmer's Market to Kersting Court

      but Noah is a lawyer, so that makes him smarter than us townies

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  37. Schuster is awesome.

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    1. "Inexcusable resource hogs" aka McMansions.

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    2. She's a truth speaker.

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  38. Barry Gold was eloquent too. Thanks Mr. Gold and Ms. Schuster. You certainly speak for me.

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  39. Bingo. Barbara Leigh nails it. "I am surprised to hear that Sierra Madre and Arcadia have different water tables."

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  40. Excellent suggestion from John Hutt about having development fees be done by per square foot, not per unit. Otherwise we encourage MacMansions.

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    1. He also emphasized the importance of the Growth Management Ordinance.

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    2. Too bad he's not on the Planning Commission anymore.

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    4. a good idea but I'm still a little fuzzy about Hutt - he was a guy that moved into town and almost immediately started getting involved in politics

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    5. Not everyone who moves into town is Joe Mosca or Noah Green, 8:13.

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    6. Hutt has lived in Sierra Madre for at least 20 years.

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    7. John Hutt gave us the huge rotunda / retail Kensington extension at the blvd/Hermosa corner. Talk about massing!

      Hutt hates Measure V as well.

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    8. Measure V gave us the Kensington. Proof positive that this city is too stupid to vote on development.

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    9. John Hutt is a dirt plant, and not a very good one.

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  41. Todd Boden, developer.
    His lot split project can't go forward. A lot split = a new water meter, no matter how "green", is a bad idea for this town.
    He thinks his project should "have been looked at at least"
    "New development is not the problem."
    He thinks we should tear down the 20+ (20?!) year old houses to put up new developments which use less water....

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    1. Repeat after me: Development good, preservation bad.

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    2. Yes. The best way to save water is to split lots and pack in lots and lots of infill housing. Sure. No personal interest in that.

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    3. Didn't he say he'd been in town for 8 months? No wonder he was surprised. He must have assumed we were like all the other towns.

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  42. I'd like to disagree with Earl Richey, but City Hall cuts corners on its public records requests. When Elaine says you can come down to go through the documents he claims you requested, what you find is box after box of paper. It is nonsense.

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  43. I think Earl and Elaine are going to have a fist fight in the parking lot.

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    1. That would be an even match.

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  44. I haven't seen Allen Graves yet, certainly he's got some lawyerly wisdom to share with us?

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    1. His wife won't allow him to attend any more City Council meetings.

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  45. Bruce just discovered that the City Council thinks his smart water meters are kind of dumb.

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