Tuesday, January 20, 2015

Someone Really Has It In For The Henry A. Darling House

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It seems hard to believe, but somebody really is jonesing to do in the Henry A. Darling house. As I am pretty certain you know, the new owner has applied for a demolition permit from City Hall to raze a classic Sierra Madre Craftsman home. One that was built all the way back in 1907, and apparently so they can replace it with one more unwanted and drearily generic mini-mansion.

It certainly does look like standard current developer behavior. Coming from the kinds of folks who would happily drive over their own dear mothers if it made them a couple of bucks, and then look you straight in the eye and tell you how how much they loved the old gal. And really, how wrong would it be for you to say that they didn't?

Love the old gal, I mean. You can only hope that this potential heritage house razing doesn't turn out to be the case here.

On January 10th we posted an article here called "Why The City Of Sierra Madre Needs A Moratorium On Demolition Permits Right About Now" (link). A product of the celebrated Tattler Research Team, it went on to generate well over 100 comments, and still draws a few more every day.

For whatever the reason, someone is very upset about what we have said here. So much so that they have left critical comments regularly ever since. Most of them claiming that those who might want to preserve this classic home, or any like it, are guilty of all sorts of unkind and unfair things.

I saved most of them, and will now post the best for you today. These comments are all over the map, and have a definite mood swing quality to them. I am also fairly certain that they either all come from the same person, or at most two people who know each other very well. Perhaps they work in the same downtown office? Maybe they're the very folks who actually sold the Henry A. Darling house into an undeserved fate?


"Narrow minded point of you" indeed. Like I said, somebody is rather upset.

You have to wonder why.

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50 comments:

  1. I like the whole "THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND!" argument. So that is where you only demo half the house?

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    1. Half the house, 50%, is the amount the council was agreeing to allow, wasn't it?

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    2. So there is a middle ground already. Looking at it from their perspective I guess middle ground means demo when it works for them, and don't when there is no money in it.

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    3. I read it as a clumsy ploy to sidewind into the discussion.

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  2. Why would anyone want to pay almost a million dollars for a home that is in "horrible disrepair?"

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    1. Land, baby. A home in disrepair = Future McMansion site in developer speak. So does "flat lot" in home listings.

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    2. Good luck with that land. And the Courts if you lay a finger on that house.

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    3. So that million and however much they have in mind to spend on building a new house couldn't get them something nice elsewhere?

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  3. January 13 comment says: "Try resorting a home with a rock foundation in earthquake country".

    Preservationists do it all the time.

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  4. THe grammar on a lot of these posts is pretty bad? PUSD graduates?

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    1. It might be emo speak.

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  5. 2,900,000 hits and counting.

    "Nobody reads The Tattler." ~ Josh Moran

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    1. Maybe he meant they only read the comments.

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  6. The first comment drags back the ghost of Downtown Dirts past. Who advocates for "no" development? No one.
    Such a tired old straw man. Let it rest, huh? Come up with something new.

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    1. It's funny. Somebody who got a big fat check under shady pretences claiming victimhood. Probably scared to death the purchaser will file a complaint.

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    2. Probably the same folks.

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  7. Great point 7:15. The post with all the !!!!!!!!! is a fine example of the hysteria that generated propaganda back in the day.

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  8. The comment that is a lecture on appreciating MacMansions is so wrong - it has been possible to build a MacMansion in Sierra Madre. Look at Camillo, at 190 North Lima, at the plans for the Carter houses - and don't get me started on the Meaglia castles up in the hillsides. There are enough of oversized houses on disproportionately small lots all over town. Unfortunately. But if our council is as good as people are saying, this plague will be stopped.

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  9. Tattler, good culling. This is an impassioned and persistent defense for demolition.

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    1. It is such an old big development tactic. Fake a lot of concern about community interests when the real motive is making money by doing the exact opposite.

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    2. Developers and realtors have got a whole lot of love for any community where they can make some money.
      There was a very funny PR push by the national realtors association that had the motto "Realtors build communities."

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    3. 4th Most Hated Industry In America"
      "4. Real Estate Industry
      Pct. negative rating: 41%

      Over a 10-year period, the real estate industry's negative rating increased by 105% - an increase second only to banking. Additionally, the overall positive views have dropped by almost 20% since 2011 alone. Americans' low overall opinion of this industry is probably related to the mortgage crisis and the effects it's had on the economy in recent years. Newport has suggested that Americans are probably not reacting to individual, local realtors. Instead, respondents associate the industry with sub-prime mortgages, loans on loans, and robo-signing. That said, like lawyers, realtors are associated with often stressful situations, which might influence the public's bad impressions of the industry. In spite of its poor score, the percentage of Americans who perceive the real estate Industry negatively has declined since the Gallup survey last year, falling from 52% to 41%.
      http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/08/27/americas-10-most-hated-industries/#!fullscreen&slide=979524

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  10. "...our planning department has done a great job of making sure that homes are not disproportionate to lot size."
    Whoo boy, somebody's pants are on fire.

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    1. Damn. And here I was believing that.

      No, not really.

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  11. These people have the right to their opinions. It does not make them right or wrong. Why aren't their posts aloowed on The Tattler? We can refute them. Give them more to think about? They have the right to show up at a council meeting and voice their ideas. Why didn't they? The owners of the old house could've spoken up for themselves and their actions and desires. Did they?

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    1. Their posts are on The Tattler. You just read them.

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    2. 7:59, good point - no one has come before the council so far. One resident will be at the next meeting for sure, asking to be an exception to the moratorium. She spoke at the last planning commission. She has been planning a demolition for four years, of a very small house on a big lot. Her father in law (I think that's who he was) was not a great help - he was a developer, calling the moratorium Draconian, saying how unfair it was. It'll be a test case for the whole idea.
      But other than those people, no one has spoken against the moratorium at the council.

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    3. 8:12 I was there they did not want to demolish the house , they wanted to build on to the house , which requires a demolition permit for the walls where the addition will be

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    4. The lack of opposition is a clear indication of how deep the opposition to McMansion development is in this town. The only people against the moratorium are those who want to exploit Sierra Madre for personal profit.

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    5. 8:43 is confused or has decided to just make things up. The demolition paperwork reads as follows:
      "Structure: Removal of 2,052 sq. ft. single family residnce and 400 sq ft garage."
      This is a complete demo, not a nip and tuck.

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    6. Hunh. They're going the disinformation route. How old school!

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    7. It's deja vu all over again.

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    8. Sorry 9:53 That is not the house that the lady and her father spoke about at the planing commision meeting . again if you went to the meeting you would know that instead of trying to correct something you do not know about

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    9. 11:44, are you 8:43? If so, can you tell me who is on first?

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    10. Sorry, didn't mean to cause confusion when I posted about the people who appeared before the planning commission. They were not there for the Darling house. It was a different project that is caught up now in the moratorium, and will have to be examined for itself. 9:53 is talking about the Darling house. Happily everyone is right, but the communication is wrong.

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    11. I was looking for a white rabbit with a pocket watch. Anyone seen him?

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  12. Drive north on Baldwin and turn right on Carter down the treelined curve to the stop sign at MiraMonte. Directly ahead of you is the house that has been bought to be bulldozed for a new Mega House--don't call it a mansion as that really implies some grand if tasteless display that is going on in Arcadia. Mega Houses. McMegaHouses. Starter Castles. Oh, allright...
    McMegaHousesMcMansionsMcStarterCastles.

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    1. aka the "3Mc's".

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    2. There is a 4th "Mc." Can't post it here though.

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  13. If someone has enough money to buy an expensive house, rip it out and build another one, I don't get why they don't just find a house they like in the first place.

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    1. I don't think they ever saw themselves actually living in them. They're just flippers.

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    2. Forgive them for they know not what they say (or type).... THEY ARE NOT FLIPPERS - Go to a city council meeting and you will find this out first hand.

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  14. One of the things I like best about our town is the mix of people and houses. There is a lot of variety in Sierra Madre, but I think the majority of people are not rich and the majority of houses are not big, taking the city as a whole. That's one of the reasons why the pretentious and superficial pro-development types stand out so much.

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  15. At the southwest corner of Monticito and Sunnyside is a house of early Sierra Madre vintage that you would have sworn should have gone the way of the dump. Upstairs in the front bay window the long-term residents (had to have been renters) had built a rabbit pen. Inside! Yes, inside! I don't know how the buyers managed to clean up that mess, but they rehabed the entire house, rebuilt the garage, did a great job inside and out and with the landscaping you would seriously never, ever know what a mess it was four years ago.

    Come on, Darling House owners, you can do it!

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    1. 5:53, you're so right about that house! In it's before state, I used to call it the Boo Radley house. If you went by at night and the upstairs lights were on, you could see newspaper clippings covering the walls. Spooky. The roof was crumbling too. Now it looks like a very comfortable home.

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  16. Because of the strongly worded Canyon Zone two houses with weak foundations were retrofited and done well. Two homes suitable for the size of the lot, trees left on the property and in harmony with the neighborhood...all possible here and around Sierra Madre.

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  17. Beautiful house. I'm just leaving a comment to see if I turn into Anonymous. Never seen a blog with only anonymous comments.

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    1. If you want names go to Facebook. If you want to know what people really think, stick around.

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  18. "I am also fairly certain that they either all come from the same person, or at most two people who know each other very well. Perhaps they work in the same downtown office? Maybe they're the very folks who actually sold the Henry A. Darling house into an undeserved fate?"

    Or maybe they are commenters with an opinion that is not in lockstep with The Tattler. I see nothing unreasonable about their comments. Just because they are not part of your echo chamber doesn't mean their comments are not valid.

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    1. Or maybe you wrote them

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