Wednesday, March 11, 2015

As They Say: Sometimes Chicken, Sometimes Feathers

The three union funded candidates sweep. Good luck Pasadena Unified School District. You have been pawned. Will an attempt to raise taxes soon follow?



From the same folks who brought you the chart above, we now present (link) …

… a new age in PUSD glory.

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107 comments:

  1. What's Pasadena gonna do after they've lost the Star-News?

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  2. 210 hits in the last 50 minutes and I got nothing to show anyone.

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    1. I got nothin'. Nothin'!!

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    2. Poor Francis. Star-News deadline is 10 PM. Tick Tock.

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    3. Does Pasadena do anything right?

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    4. Deadline is midnight. Read the Star-News for complete results now -- or in the morning over coffee.

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    5. The Star News does some really strange things. They have editorials and articles every now and then that seem to be against the damage done by the public employee unions, yet they fail to endorse a ctiy council candidate like John Harrington and Julie Costanza over in San Garbriel who running against the union supported candidate Denise Macceass. They then support Torres and call Siraganian a "fringe" candidate. Frank Girardot is kind of a strange guy and it manifests itself in some of the Star News endorsements.

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    6. it's not Frank, it's Larry Wilson

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    7. AKA "Pasadena's Guest."

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    8. Actually, I don't think its Larry Wilson. I heard that its Frank and he runs the show. Larry is just a beat reporter. They have really had some strange endorsements over the years. Even when the blast the unions in article after article, they often times support the union-backed candidates who, once in office, cause the very damage they rail against in their articles.

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    9. It's Wilson. He fancies himself to be the savior of mankind. One wine tasting and brie brunch at a time.

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  3. Looks like it will be a late night. Hope that is good for Sandi.

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  4. First the wifi was turned off at City Hall, now Pasadena's City Hall can't count ballots. Not as much fun as I'd hoped.

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  5. This looks bad for Sandi. :(

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    1. Out of the three BOE races, hers is by far the closest.

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  6. I think we should send the Sierra Madre City Clerk

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  7. 2 precincts counted
    Sandra Siraganian 812 48.6
    Lawrence Torres 857 51.3

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  8. The turnout was much higher in Sierra Madre than expected, It doesn't look good for Sandi because of the turnout of known teachers, pta members and friends of friends of union members.

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    1. You mean with people that actually have a stake in educating children?

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    2. Can we talk API scores?

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    3. Educate your self here, Geoff.
      http://reportcards.edtrustwest.org/district-data?county=&district=Pasadena+Unified&report_year=2013

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    4. Will not sacrifice my kidsMarch 11, 2015 at 6:29 AM

      Dear Geoff,
      With your ilk in charge, Sierra Madre can join the rest of the PUSD in the race to the bottom of API scores.

      The good news is that it'll be faster to State or Fed supervision. Ciao.

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    5. Sorry Geoff, they don't have a stake in educating children. They have a stake in getting more favorable union rules like tenure, seniority when it comes to layoffs, higher salaries and benefits. It not about which candidate is going to be the best for the kids. Its about which candidate will be the best for the union.

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  9. Only 1/3 of that last precinct went to Sandi. :(

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    1. P'dena. Lot's more to go. Betcha the Torres bunch never expected it to be this close.

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  10. 3 precincts in now and Sandi is behind by 99 votes. Still time.

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  11. If the union puppets sweep, then it is good bye PUSD. Total union take over.

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  12. Darn, about 600 votes behind. I don't know how we could have done anymore to get out the vote for Sandi, but it is what it is.

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    1. Beat the UUT twice. Said no to Noah. Could be worse.

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  13. That really is quite a nose. I don't think it is the one his momma gave him, though.

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  14. It's OK. The state will be running the PUSD in a couple of years anyway.

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  15. time to take your children out of the PUSD system.

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    1. And possibly out of Sierra Madre. Take me some of that flood of Asian money & sell out now.

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    2. I'm moving out!

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    3. I'm cutting off my nose.................

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    4. “Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
      Robert Heinlein

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    5. For the past 45 years it's been time to take your kids out of PUSD. Where have you been?

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    6. Private school from Day One. How about you?

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    7. PUSD gets tax money for free from those parents who opt for private. How cool is that?

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  16. How soon before the Teamsters come to collect on that $5,000 donation they gave Larry?

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    1. Give it a week.

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    2. Larry's payback will be taxpayer funded.

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    3. By the working people who pay taxes

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  17. All the people who voted for Torres really cast their ballot for the unions and against the kids. The unions usually have a better get out to vote effort and it showed in this case. Its a sad day for the Pasadena schools that the unions have a tight hold on the schools. Kids get damaged for the rest of their lives when they are exposed to bad schools that only think about protecting the teachers.

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  18. On the report card link (top of The Tattler, compare the PUSD report card to the Long Beach report card. LBUSD is no garden spot but it kicks PUSD's ass.

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    1. How embarrassing is that? We're worse than Long Beach schools? Ouch.

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  19. In the age of the low information voter a well funded campaign can get the marks to vote against their interests.

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    1. The eloi and morlocks metaphor works for me. Either that or shmoos.

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  20. Whether its the police union, the teachers union or any of the public employee unions, their focus is all about the salaries, pensions and benefits for the union members. Its like what Jon Coupal of the Howard Jarvis Tax Organization said about General Motors. It stopped being a car company and became an employee benefits company that built cars on the side. I think Pasadena is proof that the the Pasadena School system became all about the teacher's union with the education of the kids becoming a side note. That trend will only accelerate with the election of three union-backed candidates to the school board. For the kids under this system, their future is bleak. A bad education can dog you for the rest of your life.

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  21. I don't blame the unions. They follow their usual playbook - nothing changes there. I blame the voters who are so easily fooled. The vote for these three candidates ends up being a vote for stronger unions and more favorable rules for teachers like making it more difficult to fire bad teachers just like at LAUSD whether I think its about 10 teachers who have been fired in the last 10 years and only after the district having to spend millions of dollars in attorney fees because of union backed rules that make it so difficult to fire bad teachers. The results of this election will only make an already bad situation in the Pasadena School District even worse.

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  22. PUSD report card: 2010 - "D+", 2011-"D+", 2012-"D+", 2013-"D". looks like PUSD is not on an improvement trend. Sure hope Larry and the Unions can fix this.

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  23. Look on the bright side. The only reason that Sierra Madre hasn't turned into Arcadia or San Marino is because we have a lousy school system.

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    1. Smell the coffee and wake up. That ship has sailed.

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  24. Welcome to California, Sierra Madre. And yes, it doesn't work very well.

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    1. Tax cut coming 7/1/2015. UUT rate will drop from 10% to 8% as promised to the voters in 2008.

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    2. That might be the only tax in CA that's decreasing.

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    3. You know Mayor Harabedian is working hard to put an end to the outrage.

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    4. The outrage of the cops and others with Platinum Pensions?

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    5. The UUT tax is dropping? Oh no! That means the library will be closed down soon!

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    6. What about the seniors!

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    7. The Seniors get an exemption. You see, give more exemptions and those eligible for them vote to tax everyone else. "Democracy" in action!

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  25. I think Sierra Madre folks need to look at the numbers from the report card in detail. They deal with minority and disadvantage kids, of which there are few in Sierra Madre. Sierra Madre kids and schools have very high standardized test scores, comparable to those in San Marino and Arcadia. In fact throughout the PUSD, middle class, white and Asian kids score comparably to those in the nearby districts. You have a good deal in SM.

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    1. So y'all sayin' thet the PUSD is takin' care ah the white folks? Why thank yah Lester Maddox!

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    2. 9:18 needs some diversity awareness training. Sounds like a racist to me.

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    3. So 9:18 thinks it's OK to let the minority kids suffer the soft bigotry of low expectations? Damn.

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    4. Sen. Robert Byrd writes on the Tattler from the grave!

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    5. Yer raht! I here his fiddle playin' now!

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    6. I reallly don't like people like 9:18. That was just so sick and smarmy.

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    7. A Torres supporter shows his/her stripes.

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    8. PUSD has given Sierra Madre its own insulated elementary and middle schools and built a new middle school from ground up. They perform at the same level as Arcadia. Apparently that's not good enough.

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    9. Insulate from what, Lester?

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    10. Insulating PUSD from losing all the state $$ and jobs if Sierra Madre kids go to private school. Just like Linda Vista did to Linda Vista Elementary. Its closed.

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    11. PUSD area families with real options. How awful.

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    12. Sierra Madre folks by and large are no different than other middle class whites. they don't want their kids going to school with poor minorities. Like Siraganian, they stick with their insulated PUSD schools until high school when its time for their kids to mix with the blacks, latins and armenians at Pasadena High or Marshall, then they go private or move. Linda Vista folks split because they could no longer have their kids bussed to McKinley for middle school with the other white kids.

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    13. Do you actually think it is a race issue? And not that these high schools are ranked so much lower than what can be found elsewhere? I'd hate to think you are using race as an excuse to cover up for the PUSD's failure to provide a good educatiuon to all of its students, no matter what their race or ethnicity.

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    14. 1:04 And your point is?

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    15. I think the point is that the problem is not the schools, but people's perception of the kids attending the schools. its been that way for a long time.

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    16. That is because you rely on simplistic explanations for complex problems, 2:43.

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    17. I think 2:43 believes that if you don't send your kids to a PUSD school, it is because you are a racist. Most parents, on the other hand, send their kids elsewhere because they want them to receive the best possibe education. They also hope their kids will have the sorts of advantages that will enable them to attend a good university. 2:43 is typical of the kind of response you will get from certain PUSD advocates. It is yet one more thing that drives people away.

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  26. Why won't Sierra Madre leave the PUSD and either go on it's own or join with Arcadia?? It's unbelievable that we have put up with the crap from the PUSD as long as we have. All I can say is home school your kids or move a few blocks to the east and get into a new and much better school district. Such a shame...

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  27. Arcadia doesn't want us,they just want our water :(

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    1. Forgot about that..you're right ;(

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    2. Arcadia wants all of Sierra Madre. So they can sell it one big lot at a time to Beijing.

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  28. Swingin' with LarryMarch 11, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    Pour me a drink!

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    1. Larrys Going For DUI 2March 11, 2015 at 12:41 PM

      I'll drive

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    2. Keep the kids off the streets.

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  29. Will the PUSD be hiring Larry a driver?

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  30. Petey the MagnificentMarch 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    HA HA! I WON!!!!

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    1. Post your congratulations on the Oxy "facebok" page.

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    2. They're toasting you in Moscow, Herr Dreier.

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    3. Putin called, Dreier. Vlad wants his dogma back.

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  31. Petey the MagnificentMarch 11, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Got a nice bottle of Russian vodka to share with my new stooges

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    1. That'll get their attention.

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    2. Which stooge is Curly?

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    3. I think I need a drink after all this. Check the size of my nose in a few years and you'll know how many I've had.

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    4. What about Shemp?

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    5. Shemp: The Forgotten Stooge
      http://mentalfloss.com/article/29410/shemp-forgotten-stooge

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  32. Let's face it, it isn't the union per se that did this to us, but the teachers themselves. Even those who live In Sierra Madre but teach outside of the district elected Torres, and there are many. Talk about cutting off their nose to spite . . . Watch what happens when the union demands out spend the district. Those who are retired are safe, but what of those who are still teaching? Some of them are darn good teachers who got caught up in the union propaganda, they are the ones who will get cut.

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    1. Those who have retired aren't safe. Court cases in some cities are starting to allow govt. to cut pensions of those retired when the money runs out. Detroit pensioners got 41 cents on the dollar. Coming to Cali soon. CalSTRS is about 40% funded, they'll be the first to get hit.

      Maybe those affected pensioners can get jobs at Mickey D's making fries.

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  33. I attended PUSD during the late '60's and early 70's.. the schools I went to were integrated and everyone I went to school with did well and did sports, music, clubs, and all went to good universities and are all productive members of society ... the schools have changed DRASTICALLY. It's a safety issue ... it's an issue of not having the funds to have good afterschool programs (I attended them all throughout elementary school) it's about no music programs ... (I played in the Orchestra) .. it's about overcrowding .. it's about schools that are falling apart .. it's about that if you are a working class parent you can't afford the rent in Pasadena and if you are fortunate enough to buy in Pasadena who wants a crap house in a lousy part of town ... but paying through the nose for it .. and then realizing that you can't send your child to the neighborhood school because the test scores are abysmal...this didn't happen overnight ... it took a long time and people kept putting their head in the sand and now it's come full circle... in order to fix this problem you need to gut the BOARD OF EDUCATION, PUSD and start all over again ... it continues in a downward spiral .. and its sad ... I sent my first child to PUSD in the early '90's and the grade school that child went to was amazing .. as a matter of fact when that child went to Middle school and I put that child in private school that child tested two full grade levels ahead ... so something was going correctly ... when my second child was of school age I put that child directly into privateschool .. and now that child attends an area PUBLIC high school and I ended up moving out of Pasadena and getting an apartment so that could happen. Clubs galore, excellent sports program ... excellent music program ... and I am saving close to $30,000 a year in tuition/etc .... this isn't brain surgery ... PUSD has become a district where only those who have no options send their children to ... and that is terribly tragic ... terribly ... .

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  34. PUSD has a problem with kids in poverty. Parents in poverty don't volunteer as much, they don't have money to donate, they don't have time to do homework, they don't have time to deal with their kids emotional problems. Then you have the special ed cunundrum: a kid with a disability is expensive and also unlikely to get into private school, so you have a higher ratio of kids with disabilities in public school, disabilities that need a ton more resources than a kid without.

    That means in chronically underfunded public schools, the schools become over-crowded, badly managed, and focused on behavioral issues. Once it gets to that point, it becomes self-fulfilling.

    I didn't vote for Sandra because the solution is not kicking out kids you don't like in order to convince the parents with money to bring their kids back into the fold. I don't think Torres is the answer either.

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    1. Well, Torres will be there for four years. Giving your money to the Teamsters. Genius.

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    2. 5:54 has just solidly identified him/herself as a Low Information Voter. Homer Simpson would be proud.

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  35. 9:18am so good in fact that the Sierra Madre City Council is considering giving a better deal to those less than disadvantaged kids by paying for outside art classes from the Creative Arts Group in Sierra Madre. They can leave school property, I am sure the school covers all of their insurance in case of an emergency ; and just walk over there since the PUSD cannot provide any extra classes. How sad about PUSD. How sad that Sierra Madre Council would not just consider the Arts Development Fees as a community project for all around the town instead.
    I agree with 3:35 about no options with PUSD school programing. Just for an example; . look at how much was just spent for this election for a school board member.

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  36. Unions set the agenda for the schools. Theirs alot of blame to go around for Pasadena's failure but the union is the main reason. And now they've elected their man Torres who will be expected to carry their water for them. Kids suffer. Why Mayor Harabedian would support this guy is beyond me. I hope he's happy with himself. Some of these kids who find themselves with dead end jobs 40 years from now because of the education he received in Pasadena can thank him later.

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