Friday, April 24, 2015

Sierra Madre's New Director of Planning and Community Preservation Was Until Today The Community Relations Manager for … Metro?

Secret Hire? Vincent Gonzalez
(Mod: I updated this post today as more info came in. The City Council was not told about this hire. Elaine kept it a big secret. The result being Sierra Madre has hired a guy with a high density redevelopment past for a position now called "Community Preservation." Bam.)

Well, this has the potential for some disappointment. You would have hoped that Sierra Madre's newly hired Director of Planning and Community Preservation would be some kind of crackerjack planner dude with immense knowledge about things like how houses get designed, and what exactly must be done to preserve this community from the onslaught of mansionization that has engulfed so many of our neighboring cities. For many this is the #1 issue Sierra Madre faces.

Apparently that might not be the case. Or so it would seem at first pass at least. As a matter of fact, it doesn't appear that our new Director of Planning is even a planner. Or at least he hasn't been one recently. Rather until the end of business today he was the public relations guy for Metro. The very people who are working very hard to build the 710 Tunnel, of all things. Though they have often denied that.

This is certainly not the best of signs, at least in my opinion.

Here is an email that was forwarded to me by a concerned friend yesterday. It reveals something of great importance that has yet to be shared with anyone in this community. Making this yet another instance where The Tattler, and not City Hall, is first to break the big news.


So where do we begin our Tattler Background Check? Let's start with what exactly a Community Relations Manager does for a living. This could indicate the skill set our new Director of Planning and Community Preservation (cliche' alert) "brings to the table." Here is a description of the job from a website called PRSA Job Center (link):

Does connecting and interacting daily with the community sound like a job you would love? How about organizing events and communications to represent your organization throughout the community? If so, a job in community relations could be perfect for you.

Community relations managers are responsible for managing all community development initiatives throughout the organization. They plan, develop and implement programs to promote community awareness. Community relations managers are responsible for supervising the image of the organization within the community.

I'm not exactly sure how someone with that kind of experience is going to impress the folks on the Planning Commission very much. Pragmatic and practical people who generally are more concerned with housing set backs, R1 Zoning Guidelines, curb cuts and things of a more architectural nature. They are are not likely to spend too much time worrying about "the image of the organization within the community."

What kind of money does a Community Relations Manager make? Here is Vincent's Transparent California profile (link):


It will be interesting to see how much more money he was offered to come here and learn his new position.

I found a couple of examples of Vincent Gonzalez's work product on-line. For the record, it has always been the contention of The Tattler that Metro is not always above-board in their seemingly endless campaign to "Close the 710 Gap." And despite all claims to the contrary, the fix has been in on the 710 Tunnel for quite some time. This is due to certain geo-political realities that have prioritized the project, things having to do with getting cheaply produced foreign goods from the ports and to the big distribution points east of us more quickly.

When you are a foreign country holding a few trillion dollars in American debt, profligate Uncle Sugar is going to listen to your needs. China wants the 710 Tunnel, and has made this quite clear to U.S. government officials over the last decade or so. Link here for an informed discussion about that one in the Pasadena Star News.

So, given my opinions on this matter, I found the following letter to the Pasadena Weekly (link) to be a little disheartening.

Equal evaluation  
Re: “Pasadena Must Lead,” by Pasadena City Councilman Terry Tornek, June 18

In response to the letter titled “Pasadena Must Lead,” I want to clarify that Metro is committed to a fair evaluation and an open process for the State Route 710 North Study.  To say that the draft environmental document is “rigged” toward one alternative is incorrect.     

Metro and Caltrans recently announced the release of the study’s environmental impact report has been postponed to February 2015 to allow more time to complete the technical studies, including traffic, historical properties, safety, air quality and economics. The findings will help Metro/Caltrans and the public better understand the different alternatives and allow a fact-based conversation once the data is known. Metro/Caltrans will extend the public comment period from the standard 45 days to 90 days and hold public hearings throughout the study area to allow for review and feedback from the community.

All of the five alternatives in the environmental document are being equally evaluated in order to provide the best traffic solutions to the local and regional areas. This includes: Bus Rapid Transit, Light Rail Transit and Freeway Tunnel, as well as the No Build and Transportation System Management/Transportation Demand Management Alternatives.

We will continue to work with the city of Pasadena and other regional representatives in an open and transparent process. 

Your readers are encouraged to visit http://www.metro.net/sr710study to obtain accurate and most up-to-date information on the 710 North study.    

  ~ VINCENT GONZALEZ, METRO COMMUNITY RELATIONS MANAGER

The problem here is the 710 Tunnel "process" really is rigged. Terry Tornek, Pasadena's new Mayor, was 100% right about this. And, as recent events have made abundantly clear, the tunnel question has been rigged for quite some time. Metro has not been truthful.

Moving on, and in fairness, there is a Daily Breeze article from 2010 where Vincent Gonzalez is listed as a "Project Manager" for a mixed use development project. Is that the same as a planner? Project Managers in Pasadena make about $160,000 a year. Why someone would leave so high paying a job for something at Metro paying about $100,000 less would be a mystery in my opinion.

(The answer to that is Vincent worked for Pasadena's Redevelopment Agency, and once Jerry Brown killed that boondoggle off that department was let go. Redevelopment Agencies being, of course, no real friend to preserving anything we want for Sierra Madre.)

The article is called "Pasadena councilwoman dreaming of a Lincoln Avenue Renaissance," and you can link to it here.

A nearly $200,000 city plan lays out the details of her dream - a mix of condos and apartments, boutique shops, restaurants, offices and community spaces that will create a pedestrian-friendly environment.

If approved by the City Council next year, the Lincoln Avenue Specific Plan - which covers Lincoln Avenue mainly from West Montana to West Mountain Street - will improve one of the last areas in the city still in need of large-scale redevelopment.

"Many people don't realize there's huge economic opportunities here because we are bounded by single-family residential" homes, Robinson said. "People would better utilize the area if it was more pedestrian-friendly, if it was more day-to-day uses ... There's not a whole lot of opportunities right now for that to be able to happen."

If approved, the plan will bring mixed-use housing opportunities, such as ground floor shops with condos on top, to the corridor's west side, mostly from Howard Street to Pepper Street.

"With residents living full time on the corridor, it would help revitalize that portion of Lincoln Avenue," said Vincent Gonzalez, one of the city's redevelopment project managers. "It would allow for more retail opportunities and more of a 24-hour presence on the street, as opposed to current uses where people are only working during the day and leave at night."

So would a project manager for mixed use high density urban redevelopment projects be our kind of guy? This next item could also suggest to some readers that Vincent Gonzalez's heart might not be completely on board with the "Community Preservation" thing.

This from Streetsblog Los Angeles (link).


I wonder where you could fit "77 family-oriented units" in Sierra Madre? Would we have the necessary water? You can find an additional document of interest here.

So how did so unlikely a candidate come to the attention of the City of Sierra Madre? How did a Metro publicist become the first person ever hired by this community for the exclusive purpose of planning and "Community Preservation?" And how did a guy who worked high density mixed use redevelopment projects in the past get a job in a town that is adamantly opposed to just that sort of thing?

Well, I have an opinion on this as well. It was a little Metro magic, as it were (link).


Does that look like a "Community Preservation" crowd to you? Are three guys from "The COG" enough do you think? Or, to put it into L.A. County jargon, is this cluster of officials made up of best practices stakeholders who believe in the process? 

At first glance none of this is very good news, I'm afraid.

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98 comments:

  1. I wonder why Leticia did not get the position?

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    1. She turned it down.

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    2. Leticia did not apply. She does not want the job, darn it.

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    3. Did Vincent Gonzales apply? Or was he recruited.

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    4. I'm kind of mad at Leticia for not taking the job. She would have been ideal.

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    5. Agreed ,Leticia is one of the few competent and diligent City of Sierra Madre employees. The best employees are among the first to leave when the management is bad. They find it easier to get another position. Who could blame Leticia for wanting out ? Would you work for Elaine Aguilar if you had a choice?

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  2. Who hired this guy? Were his qualifications ever discussed in a public meeting? Was there any public input?

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    1. Probably Elaine, with help from Mayor Johnny. It is an establishment hire. This is a guy who will take orders. Especially since he has no real experience in this kind of job.

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    2. No public input. It was the city manager's decision.

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    3. I suspect that Aguilar hired someone obedient.

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    4. 6.26 Asks the all important question. Who hired him and why?
      Why do we need someone to do this 'job' ?
      I thought the City was short of money and needed more UUT?
      This is an outrageous waste of resources.
      Where is the benefit to Sierra Madre.?

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    5. jeez, what an awful hire. He'll fit in perfectly with Elaine

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    6. why do we need another political hack?

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  3. Elections as well as appointments by City Managers have consequences. I think the City Manager needs to explain why this person's background qualified him to be the Director of Planning and Community Preservation. It seems to me that its such an appointment position that such a decision should not be made behind closed doors.

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    1. The City Council needs to launch an investigation into this guy's appointment. Its too important a position for the future of Sierra Madre to not have the candiates properly vetted.

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    2. You would think that for a job described as community preservation they'd hire some one who has actually preserved something.

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    3. If he's another one of those Planners that sees Sierra Madre as merely s stepping stone in his ambitions, then we have a problem. It always looks better on the resume to say you spearheaded this project or that project rather than that you suceeded in preserving the status quo that the community basically wants. That's the challenge. City Employees want to feather their resume's with projects and once the town is ruined, move onto another town at higher pay. That's usually the game.

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    4. wait what?

      a pro development hire for Community Preservation?

      what a joke - I'm sure he's already been told to ignore the public and do the bidding for developers

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  4. Has anyone issued a press release or something to say why this guy is qualified for such a position particularly at a time when all these big issues relating to development are on the table. Whether its the General Plan update, the One Carter lawsuit, the Monastery project and a myriad of other issues. This is not a time to have a inexperienced try to learn the position while on the job.

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    1. My guess is that the leadership in the department will now be about schmoozing residents, while the rest of the staff does the planning.

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    2. Selling development. Why else would they hire a PR guy to run a planning department?

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    3. I'd can't wait to see how they laud his qualifications because it appears he doesn't have any. Yet, maybe this guy will surprise us. Maybe he's a good guy who will look out for the residents and not get to chummy with developers like Mur-Sol, the Groh brothers and the Bowdens. Maybe he's a preservationist at heart. I don't know.

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    4. His past suggests that he will be a fox in the henhouse.

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    5. great - another "salesperson"

      what? Big Al's Used Car Emporium wasn't hiring?

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  5. Just when you think this city is changing for the better. Bam!

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    1. what made you think anything was changing?

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  6. In the past he was a planner for the City of Pasadena.

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    1. There is absolutely nothing on line that indicates that. Plus why would he have taken such a pay cut to become a public relations guy for Metro? Planners in Pasadena start at around $100,000 a year, plus benefits.

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    2. Not sure why he left Pasadena, but he was working in the Northwest programs division as recently as 2010.

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    3. According to Transparent California a planner in pasadena - with benefits - makes $149,900. An associate planner makes $131,500. Why would someone leave a job like that to work for Metro for $73,000?
      http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?a=pasadena&q=Planner&y=

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  7. Find out more about that.

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  8. Yes, indeed: Vincent C. Gonzalez, Lincoln Avenue Corridor/Redevelopment Plan, Pasadena, CA: contact vgonzalez@cityofpasadena.net
    Date: 2003

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    1. Yes, I found a newspaper article and added that to the article. Thanks. He was a project manager though, not a planner. Here is the thing. Project Manager's make anywhere from $160,000 to $180,000 a year in Pasadena. Why would he leave that job for one at Metro that pays around $100K less?

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    2. Maybe he was fired.

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    3. 12:07 I thought I was the only one to think that. Good to know I'm not alone.

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    4. he can't be all that bright cause he didn't do his homework on the city

      or he's another one of those "I'm smarter than you"

      why we keep hiring those that are him for themselves and not the city?

      let's make sure not to reelect John Harabuchanan

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  9. This was an appointment not based on qualifications, it was based on who would toe the line and follow orders. He apapears to be your typical city employee who probably does know how to manuever within the bureacracy which for city government might be the most important qualification. No private company would ever hire a guy like that for such an important position who has absolutely no experience in that field. It will be fascinating to see him in action before the cameras and the public explaining about the General Plan, set backs, floor area ratios and lot splits. I will try to keep an open mind and give him a fair chance now that he's been hired but I am very concerned at this point. Maybe he can allay people's concerns by using some of that public relations background.

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    1. he'll be spinning the UUT as an expert and why we need to raise our own tax rate

      I'm sort of sick of the PR types

      at least he's not a lawyer

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  10. Rumor is that John Hutt applied for the job. What happened with that?

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    1. Too smart, too independent, too knowledgeable.

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    2. Hutt would dominate City Hall. Elaine, the consummate controlling personality, wouldn't stand for that.

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    3. Rule #1 at City Hall. Never hire anyone from Sierra Madre. They might put Sierra Madre first.

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    4. Hutt is one of the smartest people on the planet. He would be dangerous because he knows too much. If any one was overqualified for that position it was Hutt. But he would have been the best Director we ever had. There are two kinds of leaders. Some will not hire anyone smarter than they are because they see that person as a threat. Some will surround themeselves with the best people possible because they see the big picture and want to do what's best and achieve the best. Hutt would have been that kind of hire. Elaine obviously didn't feel secure enough to hire John Hutt and do what's best for Sierra Madre.

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    5. Hutt should be City Manager. Elaine should be retired.

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    6. Elaine doesn't seem to ever hire Anglos

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    8. Maybe she just hires her relatives.

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  11. did anyone else apply for the job?

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    1. shouldn't that be a matter of public record?

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  12. Sounds like this guy was hired more to put a gloss on development in Sierra Madre, not to preserve the town.

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    1. back in the old west days he'd be pulling up in a wagon with a miracle cure that ails ya

      he'll just be peddling the same old bull methane that has been spewing out of city hall for the last dozen or more years

      just what we need - a hire whose going downward in his career

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  13. You're all projecting,give the man a chance.
    That being said how much salary are we paying him?

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    1. Really? Give him a chance? To do what? Further ruin Sierra Madre? He is not qualified for this position.

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    2. UM possibly use multiple sources for your info? Maybe even speak with him God forbid? Typical knee jerk reaction from "preserve SM" type folks.
      Sierra Madre is not ruined BTW.

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    3. Should the city council call him? Since the city manager didn't tell them she'd hired a high density development guy for a job called "community preservation," maybe they should give him a ring?

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    4. You're making baseless accusations based on nothing,you may think he is a "a high density development guy" you may think he has not been vetted, but I'm sorry there are no facts to support this.We get what we pay for Sierra Madre cannot afford hundreds of thousands dollars for the finest in the field.His former employers paid him to promote their positions I assume he will do the same for Sierra Madre.There will be development here. Hopefully we will do it properly.
      I assume Mr. Gonzalez will speak with his employers.

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    5. You're wrong. This was an inappropriate and secret hire made without the knowledge of the City Council. His past is redevelopment and high density mixed use planning. Is that the kind of guy that should run a department that calls itself "Community Preservation?" This is not how city business is supposed to be conducted. The fact that it was The Tattler that had to tell the people of Sierra Madre about this disaster is as good an indication of how badly this whole affair was handled. Elaine needs to go and find another job.

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    6. Poor dirts are in a dither today. I hear Elaine's day got off to a bad start as well.

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    7. "Community Preservation" Huh ? That is a crock of ...........
      Tell me one thing Elaine Aguillar has done to help preserve Sierra Madre - just one ?

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    8. 10:08. After Sierra Madre is ruined will you put it back to the way it was?

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    9. If Elaine says he's okay then....

      When the person hiring a person has flat out lied to residents and purposely put out misinformation

      why should we question the hire?

      He's been hired to follow the orders of Elaine so what's different?

      puzzling that the his background of pro-development spin and promotion is directly opposed to the majority of what people want in the city

      I'll give him a chance but start with the assumption that he's not representing the people

      convince me dude

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  14. This is a disaster. Leticia will probably leave. Who would would want to work under Elaine.

    The city council must replace her.

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  15. I suspect there is a big agenda here. Something to completely overhaul Sierra Madre. Perhaps the city wants to bring back the DSP? Or perhaps allow the Metro lines to have a larger presence in the town? Something is definitely up.

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  16. Maybe this guy got hired because Johnny Harabedian got tired of trying to get his friend Dave Loera some kind of position in the city. I mean, cronyism quid pro would doesn't work unless you can do a favor for someone so that they are obliged to pay you back.

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  17. Great. City Manager Aguilar went out and got herself a new Danny Castro. And didn't tell anybody.

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  18. If the City Council wasn't told that this guy was hired, how was his salary decided upon? Doesn't the City Council have to approve all spends?

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  19. @7:36 -- Indeed I did apply for the Director position. Sounded like something I would be pretty good at and enjoy doing. A good way for me to give back to the community. Alas, city hall wasn't ready for a non-traditional hire.

    For what it's worth, I know Vincent from when he worked for the City of Pasadena. He was a planner before working at Northwest Programs. Hard working, intelligent and has a background in design. I'm a little concerned about the fit as I think of him more of a "big city" rather than "small town" guy, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

    As for the process, yes it was secret. It's supposed to be. The City Manager hires her own staff. This is 100% Elaine's choice -- no public or City Council input. Can't have accountability without authority. Of course the flipside is true as well, it's 100% her responsibility. If the City Council doesn't agree with her hires or otherwise how she is running the City, their sole remedy is to fire her.

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    1. It might be Elaine's choice, but hiring a high density mixed use redevelopment agency guy to run a department that was renamed "community preservation" by the city council is pretty close to the line of acceptable employee behavior.

      Interesting article. Note person;s name at the end. http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/28018211/residents-in-boyle-heights-are-boiling-mad-over-redevelopment-of-the-area-around-mariachi-square#.VTqR3Weq_C8.email

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    2. Then let's get her FIRED !
      She is frittering away our meager finances on irrelevancies at best !
      This expensive appointment yields nothing for the big issues that threaten Sierra Madre.
      At leaast it makes it clear that any UUT is just money down the tubes!

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    3. I think Elaine needs to be fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      She is single handed ruining our town

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    4. John, I had such high hopes that you would be appointed! What was I thinking? A department that is to "preserve" does need a big city development guy! I realize Elaine has all the power to do what she did, but she went against the people who pay her salary. What moxie! There again, we only have to pay the bills/salaries, not have a say in how it should be spent. She and her buddy the mayor hads this planned for a long time. You are a remarkable man, John Hutt and we needed you in this position.

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    5. if John says let's give him a chance then I will but it won't be much of a leash

      however he was hired over more qualified candidates and a candidate that lives in the city

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  20. Elaine is playing a shell game. She is over confident with a driving interest in : Salary, Benefits / Retirement and Job after retirement. The yelllow brick road has a title....the 710 Freeway and a devious proponent, the City Manager, coupled with a "plant" a council member with a law degree and not much else. Hoow long do we put up with the State, San Gabriel Council, the inncompetence at City Hall ? What a scam we have in our midst.

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  21. Any idea why the name of the department was changed from Development Service to Planning and Community Preservation? It seemed to call for an "preservationist" approach, but really? We need to be at the first Planning Commission meeting where he is introduced and starts the latest phase of his career. Is there a on lin link for a group for citizens "hoodwinked again" where we can sit in a circle, drink coffee and bare our souls regarding the efforts we made to preserve our communities and were repeatedly shot down by the likes of Elaine Aguilar?

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    1. what a joke - does Elaine really think we are this stupid?

      change the title so it looks all nice and fluffy but it's still a dagger of development agenda being shoved down our throats

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  22. From Lincoln Ave Speciic Plan, 2011:

    City Staff
    Michael J. Beck, City Manager
    Steve Mermell, Assistant City Manager
    Martin Pastucha, Director of Public Works
    Fred Dock, Director of Transportation
    Dan Rix, City Engineer, Public Works
    Lola Osborne, Northwest Programs Division Manager
    David A. Klug, Redevelopment Manager
    Eric Duyshart, Economic Development Division Manager

    Vincent C. Gonzalez, Redevelopment Project Manager

    John Poindexter, Planning Manager
    Denver Miller, Zoning Administrator
    Jeff Cronin, Principal Planner
    Millie De La Cuba, Principal Planner
    Patrice Martin, Senior Planner

    Lots of glorified notions for this street, none of which are in place as of now.
    As with our DownTown Specific Plan--now defunct and controlled by the passage of Measure V, 2-30-13, with our newly hired Director of Planning and Community Preservation--The Fight Goes On!

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    1. What do you mean, none of which are in place now? Just look at this sign, all six feet two inches of it: http://ww2.cityofpasadena.net/arts/artsSearch/artsDetail.asp?id=ART2011-00005
      http://ww2.cityofpasadena.net/arts/images/publicart/ART2011-00005.jpg

      Don't you know that once you erect the gateway monument everything else magically falls into place. (BTW Mod, is there a way to paste an image directly into a comment?)

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    2. All we have to so if photoshop out "Lincoln Avenue" and insert "Baldwin Avenue" and we're set. All our problems are solved. Great hire Elaine.

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  23. If the City Council saw fit to change the name of Development Services to Planning and Community Preservation you would think that a new staff hire would need to be far and above qualified to fulfill that position.

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    1. Exactly. This was a deliberate attempt to subvert the will of Sierra Madre's elected official. The only remedy is to fire the City Manager.

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    2. She needs to go. This is unbelievable.

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  24. Mayor Eric Garcetti’s goal of adding 100,000 housing units by 2021, from today's LA Times. who would let a small problem like no water stop him?

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  25. Kind of like those retirements for public employees, "No end in sight"

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  26. 10:46am. THANK YOU.

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  27. I remembered when city residents made their many points to the city council meetings.
    The city council failed to listen and failed to provide comments!
    In discuss, residents stood at the microphone and stated that Elaine, Bruce, the city attorney were fired!
    But... everyone kept coming back to work and the city residents kept allowing them to be paid!

    Now, I have finally realized, "It's All about the Salaries & Health Benefits", there is little moneys left to be spent on city water infrastructure which we need so desperately! City hall has drained our water reservoir, failed to improve our water wells, "illegally discharges fire hydrant water" down city streets for 30 minutes at a session on regular events, now there is no water available to pump!
    My goal is to reduce city income, and let Elaine figure out how to pay city bills with less money!
    Looking at those comments in the rears, I should have supported some of his ideas!
    Our city government is to big and spends to much money, I fail to see the benefit of their decisions!

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  28. John Hutt would have been a real asset to this city, he has the knowledge and background to keep Sierra Madre the town we all know and love.
    With all that this city is facing, I do not feel that Mr. Gonzalez, a project mng. and metro PR guy, is the correct fit for this town.
    Would this be a good time to make another change from city manager to city administrator and save the monies that we will be paying out to some one who more than likely will slow down the progress being made, while trying to catch up on how a town is run with codes and ordinances; not just talking and directing others as to how to do their jobs? Unfair ? I will have to read the qualifications as to this persons background. it they are made available.

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    1. Can Dr. Celyn get us a new City Manager?

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    2. Dr. Celyn has consulted the Great Oracle and the ascension of John Hutt to village ruler is now in motion.

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  30. If John Hutt cant get the job it is time to get rid of our City Manager.
    He lives in our Village, Elaine does not!

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    1. Elaine never hires Sierra Madreans.

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    2. so, let's all agree to not vote for anybody endorsed by Harbedian, Goss, Buchanan, Stockley, Doyle, Lambdin or supported by the realtor contention

      if we stop the same old same old and elect a few decent residents who will then fire Elaine and hire a City Manager who actually cares about us

      then we'll start heading in the right direction

      fire Elaine - hire John Hutt

      simple

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  31. If Elaine will not hire John Hutt, than I want Jeff Hildreth. He has stood up to Elaine where no one else has. He has a degree from USC in urban planning and public administration. He will never put up with Elaine crap and will only look out for the best interest of the Village. We need locals. Get rid of the Interlopers that want our money and seem to screw us at every opportunity!

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    1. It's OK. Hutt can be our next City Manager.

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  32. John Hutt for City Manager
    Tell your council member

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  33. It is time to fire Elaine & hire John

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  34. Great Post! Up for reading once more!
    I remembered when city residents made their many points to the city council meetings.
    The city council failed to listen and failed to provide comments!
    In discuss, residents stood at the microphone and stated that Elaine, Bruce, the city attorney were fired!
    But... everyone kept coming back to work and the city residents kept allowing them to be paid!

    Now, I have finally realized, "It's All about the Salaries & Health Benefits", there is little moneys left to be spent on city water infrastructure which we need so desperately! City hall has drained our water reservoir, failed to improve our water wells, "illegally discharges fire hydrant water" down city streets for 30 minutes at a session on regular events, now there is no water available to pump!
    My goal is to reduce city income, and let Elaine figure out how to pay city bills with less money!
    Looking at those comments in the rears, I should have supported some of his ideas!
    Our city government is to big and spends to much money, I fail to see the benefit of their decisions!

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  35. 7pm and no city manager report yet. Guess Elaine's having a hard time figuring out how to spin this.

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