Thursday, May 21, 2015

Oxy Moxie: Fun With the $15 An Hour Minimum Wage

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I get into these bizarre arguments over on a Facebook page called Pasadena Politics. Can't help myself really. It isn't always easy being right in a world where everyone else is wrong. And nowhere are they more wrong quite as remarkably as at Pasadena Politics. It is a place where people who venerate government, and particularly the government of their special city, like to congregate. Needless to say, I don't quite fit in. Though the nice lady who moderates the place does treat me kindly.

Here's an example of what I mean. A couple of years ago the Pasadena Unified School District went through its "redistricting process." Which is the politically correct term for political gerrymandering based on racial and ethnic identity. Or pretty much the opposite of what some obtrusive people attempted to accomplish with busing back in the early 1970s. So it isn't a totally bad idea.

Unfortunately, those who were in control of that PUSD so-called redistricting process threw in something a little extra. They denied three of the more traditional suburban locales in this area (such as Sierra Madre) the right to vote for their subdistrict representatives until a full 2 years later than the urban subdistricts.

Terribly unfair in my opinion. If the term "taxation without representation" doesn't come to mind, then you must have slept through history class.

Among those responsible for this PC vote theft is a gentleman straight out of P'dena named Ken Chawkins. And when I attempted to discuss this matter on the Pasadena Politics site with him, he reacted in the following unfortunate and intolerant manner:


Come on, Ken. Can't we all just get along? 

Another of the Pasadena PC Posse who finds my mere presence on the Pasadena Politics page entirely intolerable is Occidental College Professor Peter Dreier. Peter, in case you are blissfully unaware, is a lifetime radical activist who carries on like he believes that 1968 never ended. And woe to anyone who might disagree with him.

A quixotic pursuit made comfortable for him due to his tenured professorship at Occidental College, a liberal arts institution in Eagle Rock that costs parents of the youngsters who go there about $60,000 a year. 

I'll bet you can buy some real nice office furniture with that kind of dough.

Now one of Professor Dreier's bugaboos these days is the $15 minimum wage. He's written whole articles on the matter, and has even given a few speeches about it as well. Here is a portion of an LA Times op-ed piece he penned a year or so ago (link).

It's surprising, then, that Los Angeles has not yet seen a campaign to adopt a citywide minimum wage for the more than 800,000 city residents — 46% of working Angelenos — who make less than $15 an hour. That comes to less than $30,000 for year-round full-time work.

That amount of money doesn't go very far in Los Angeles, where the average monthly rent for a two-bedroom apartment is $1,523. A family needs to earn $29.29 an hour to afford that rent, according to the Southern California Assn. for Non-Profit Housing. At the current state minimum wage of $8 an hour, two minimum-wage workers would each have to work 73 hours a week to afford that apartment.

Worse yet, wages are going down in Los Angeles even as the cost of living rises. Between 1979 and 2011, the median inflation-adjusted pay of L.A. workers declined by 14%. For the working poor — the bottom quarter of income earners — yearly pay plummeted by 26%.

Where, then, is the City Council? Where's the Mayor?

Now this matter has been up for discussion on the Pasadena Politics site lately, mostly because the Los Angeles City Council and Mayor Garcetti, along with the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, got with Peter's principles. And nobody was more giddy with delight than the Professor. Check this out:


As you know, I always try to be as helpful as possible, no matter what someone's opinions might be. And one of the ways I try to do that is to point out the contradictions in things people are saying. The contradiction for Professor Dreier being that the college where he serves as a senior professor, Occidental, pays their more blue collar help simply terrible wages. Or at least by Dreier's standards.

Here are some unhappy examples:


I am not sure being an "on-call banquet assistant" for $11.66 an hour is quite in the spirit of that $15 an hour minimum wage campaign Peter Dreier has been championing. I attempted to point this out to him, but wouldn't you know it? He cussed me out quite roundly, and with little regards for my feelings I might add.

Then he posted the following bold statement:


But here is the thing. And believe me, I take little pleasure in saying this. While the Los Angeles City Council did pass something along the lines of what Professor Dreier describes, it isn't quite what he has represented it to be. Here is how CNBC describes that pain (link):

As Los Angeles moves to become the largest city to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour from $9 an hour over the next five years, a key question is which other large cities might follow suit and hike pay.

The Los Angeles City Council agreed on Tuesday to draft a proposal to raise wages by 2020. The plan will go to a vote next month and Mayor Eric Garcetti has said he will sign it into law.

And there is the catch. This is a $6 an hour raise over the course of five very long years. And in the next year or so current $9 an hour minimum wage earners will see their life's bounty make a feeble leap up from what they earn now to the rather unlordly $10.50. 

I am not sure this is going to make all of those Tiger Temps and Banquet Assistants at Occidental College jump for joy. Or put in their orders for new Audis, either. 

This despite the bold promises of a $15 dollar and hour minimum wage Professor Dreier made on their behalf over at the Pasadena Politics Facebook page. And failed to deliver in a timely manner.

Just don't you dare go and tell anyone.

Late edit

This article has since been pulled from the Pasadena Politics page.


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63 comments:

  1. What people are paid for something, work or tangible item, is related to the amount of value they bring. An entry level job, which usually doe not require great skill or mastery of specific skills, brings some value to a business, but it does not bring value as great as someone with experience and training. therefore, the owner of the business, who is in business to make a profit, will pay someone commensurate with the value they contribute to his business. Now I believe that the reason Peter Dreier supports a $15. Minimum wage is because he teaches nothing of value at Occidental, yet he is paid quite handsomely. he therefore has no concept of what it means to bring value to the table. Or where that money comes from. (That, and he's a supporter of a fascist, communist philosophy.)

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    1. Wonder if Herr Dreier ever had to run a for-profit business and make enough in sales to pay a payroll. My guess would be no. For a Professor, he sure is a Dumbass.

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  2. If the $15 an hour minimum wage ever comes here around 60% of the businesses in downtown Sierra Madre would have to close their doors.

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    1. but probably not Mother Moo's... one milkshake there costs about the same as the state's minimum wage.

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    2. Then there is the restaurant in San Francisco that closed down after the wage hike in there. Workers who picketed for higher wages no longer have a job.

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    3. And then there's Borderland Books in SFO.

      From their web site:
      "Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in principal and we believe that it's possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco -- Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage."

      They were scheduled to close down by 3/31/2015. I heard they were asking for contributions form the public to stay open. By the looks of the blog they are still operating.

      Math is hard.

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    4. running a book store in the digital age is hard

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    5. So is supporting a $15 min. wage and then having to pay it yourself. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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  3. Dreier makes in the vicinity of a quarter million dollars a year. He is a colossal hypocrite.

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  4. So you know, I posted this on the Pasadena Politics pages well. It has been pulled down.

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    1. The intolerance of the far left is almost totalitarian in its sweep. Can you imagine what your life would be like if we lived in some communist country and Peter Dreier was in charge. Scary.

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    2. Just look at the current PUSD Board of Education. The recent crop are all people that Dreier helped get elected.

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    3. Hiking the miminum wage will only destroy entry-level jobs. If you only make $9 an hour you may want to switch jobs or increase your education but you have no business being the primary breadwinner for a family of four. That's irresponsible. Jobs at McDonalds are for teenagers to get some experience. Its not really about the money. Its about learning to be responsible, showing up on time, learning customer service and then using that experience as a springboard to higher paying jobs. By raising the minimum wage, young adults simply will have very limited opportunities to do that. They simply won't be hired.

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    4. On the Pasadena Politics pages, some Free Speech is freer than others.

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    5. 6:51. You are so right. A minimum hourly wage was never meant to support a person let alone a family
      Fast food, retail sales, etc used to be for high school and college kids that wanted to earn some money or get some experience. The key to a higheraying job is called education, not just being given more money. The higher pay will mean higher prices and fewer jobs. Not to mention the cost to employers because of stupid Obama care

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    6. The other key to a higher paying job is working harder. The minimum wage is the start of "a ladder, not a chair", as a mentor once told me.

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  5. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

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    1. $10.50 an hour in 2016 is really going to fix that. Ironic that those who complain the loudest also are positively ecstatic over the 2016 $10.50 an hour wage. Go figure.

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    2. 6:48, where in the Constitution or Declaration does it say income inequality? If you want life to be "fair" quit governement meddling and start a private business. I'm sure you think you're smart enough to do it. Show us how it's done.

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    3. Maybe Ken Chawkins should spell check, the word is "hijack".

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    4. Let's ask the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office:
      "CBO report: Minimum wage hike could cost 500,000 jobs" - USA Today 2/18/2014

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/02/18/cbo-minimum-wage-jobs/5582779/

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    5. If you really want to help people, it shouldn't be $15 an hour.

      It should really be $ 50 an hour so we can help people get along in So Cal for $ 100,000 a year.

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    6. It isn't even $15 an hour until 2020. Half of a decade away. All of the pols are in a frenzy congratulating themselves this morning. Yet what did they really do?

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    7. 7:18 - where does it say 'capitalism'?

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    9. It is capitalism, 8:32. The low wage employers are shielded from having to pay much more money than the rate of inflation, and the idiot LA pols all get to crow about how wonderful they are. About as shabby a sight as you will ever see.

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    10. 8:32, if you're really that stupid, I can't help you.

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    11. 9:43 great debate, thanks for the post

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    12. No prob. I figured that was just about all you can handle.

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  6. this $15 wage is geared to the low information person. Herr Drier and his ilk look and sound like champions of the poor by advocating for a $15 wage and then when the reality of it hits real folks with the loss of jobs why then Herr Drier and his friends just blame it on the mean and greedy business people. come to us, Herr Drier says, and we will take care of you. what a control freak, just like that Pasadena blog that doesn't allow dissension.

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  7. Has anyone asked Prof. Peter Dreier if he's willing to donate some of his income to the Oxy employees and contractors that make less than $15 an hour? That would help address the income inequality where he's makes 10-20 times what the lowest paid employee makes.

    But he won't. Why? Because to hard-core socialists, socialism and govt. dictates are for YOU, not them. They're above it all becuase they're so "smart".

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    1. Good idea, 7:28. maybe Herr Drier should receive only $15.00 per hour for his work. After all, that would be "fair and equal".

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    2. At least Tiger Temps perform a useful function.

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  8. Help me, Herr Dreier! Help me!

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  9. I wonder if Dreier has ever used "Tiger Temps" to help compile his books about his radical heroes?

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    1. I think "Tiger Temps" may be referring to Peter Dreier's morals.

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    2. Have they "taken back the night" at Occidental yet?

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  10. Ann Erdman used to be the PIO in Pasadena before they ran her off. Now that Bogus is gone she wants her job back. If that doesn't work out she should try North Korea.

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  11. This will cause many job losses, especially among the working poor. It will force many employers to pay under the table with no benefits to stay in business. The garment industry will be hit very hard. But government will help by forcing more low income housing, etc. When is enough, enough?

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  12. the Pasadena Politics page reminds me of how the City of Pasadena employees are treated ... you have an original thought or opinion ... or it goes against what Upper Management is doing ... you get kicked to the curb... banned...fired or retaliated against ... interesting ....

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    1. Sure explains the presence of Ann Erdman.

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  13. This is on the LA Times site: "L.A. has done nothing but make itself more attractive to low-wage workers and less attractive to businesses that would hire them." Precisely.

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  14. If your not a liberal 18 yrs. You have no heart
    If your a liberal past the age 40 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN
    That is all

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    1. Winston Churchill quote

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    3. I'm guessing you're over 40.

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  15. Why is it being phased in over a 5 year period instead of immediately?

    If it will help so much, shouldn't we want it to help right now! Why do they want those struggling to suffer for an extra 5 years?

    Or could it be that even the proponents of the a min wage understand how harmful it is and - since their own aim is political gain, not actually increasing the well-being of those struggling - understand that by phasing it in over many years, the harm will be less visible and diminished due to rising inflation?

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    1. Exactly. It is a political dog and pony show that gives the appearance of helping the working poor while in reality sells them out to the big money guys. One big fat City of Los Angeles political lie.

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  16. I want to share my testimony on how i was able to get back my husband around March this year with the help of Dr Ekaka. My husband left me for over 3years and went on with another lady and i was unable to move on with my life because of the love i have for him, On the 1st of march i saw a testimony on the internet on how Dr Ekaka help someone with love spell so i never believe it but just have to try my faith which i did and i contacted him and he told me what i need to do and after 2days i received a call from my husband asking me to come back to him it was all like a dream to me i am so happy now as we are back together again thanks to Dr Ekaka

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  17. Why is the above comment here? did Dr. ekaka charge $15.00 per hour to aid this person?

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    1. Dr Ekaka teaches at Occidental.

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    2. 4:45 Ask Eric Maudry...lmao.

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    3. That would be M-A-U-N-D-R-Y. Please. Have the nurse hook you back up to the oxygen tank.

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  18. As the only member of the public that attended the planning commission meeting tonight, I am happy to report that the commissioners approved the Draft EIR and sent it to the City Council. Finally, after almost 8 years the General Plan Update may be approved. Hope there are no more delays.
    Barry Gold

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  19. Oh come on now, Anonymous. I wasn't run off as the Pasadena PIO. I retired after a 38-year career in advertising and public relations that began in 1974 in the private sector and transitioned to the public sector in 1986. I experienced a catastrophic medical event in July 2011 and retired from the City of Pasadena in March 2012 because I wanted to go live a life. As to "the presence of Ann Erdman " on the Pasadena Politics page, I simply am an infrequent commenter; I don't have any moderating rights or responsibilities and I don't want any.

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    1. Wow, is this the real Ann Erdman? Mr. Tattler, I hope you put a jacket on for the occasion.

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    2. Ann can be a little politically correct at times, but I am sure she is convinced that she means well.

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    3. I recall Ann's medical issues at the time she was experiencing and applauded her realization that life is to be lived to the fullest. If only more people of prominence shared her amazingly affable outlook and charity toward their fellow citizens the world would be a better place. Don't let 'em wear you down Ann! You're perfect just as you are.

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