Thursday, August 27, 2015

Arcadia City Councilmember Sho Tay Holds A Community Outreach Meeting On Development, But Only In Mandarin

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As Arcadia faces resident driven lawsuits and ballot initiatives designed to curb McMansion development there, the City Hall Empire is now attempting to strike back. City Councilmember Sho Tay, in what was promoted as community outreach, held a public meeting to air out some of the issues that community faces.

Unfortunately, this was not entirely an outreach effort because it was only held in Mandarin, which means that a large portion of the community was excluded from participating in these discussions. Which you could probably assume was the purpose.

So, and as a service to those who do not speak Mandarin, yet feel they too have a right to know what a Councilman who theoretically was put into office to represent all of the people of Arcadia was up to, we have obtained some translations of the media coverage for this event. Which, of course, was only the Mandarin language press. Which I guess was the point. None was intended for you.

Obviously this was an attempt to rally certain targeted ethnic support behind the building of McMansions in Arcadia, while also organizing opposition to an initiative that would put the lid on such things. Which, judging by the surprisingly sparse attendance at this event, might not be as popular with Sho Tay's carefully targeted audience as some might assume.

Attempts at political organizing based on racial assumptions can be problematic, so it might be that the desire for preservation in Arcadia actually does cut across ethnic lines. Meaning McMansions could have even less support than was first thought, and that the opposition to them cuts across all ethnic lines there.

I doubt that was quite the impression Sho Tay was hoping to convey when he was putting this meeting together.

Our first look into this event is a brief translation of a news report that ran on TV LA 18. You can access this video feed by clicking on the link beneath the screenshot.

Video link here.


I think the most important thing we can take away from viewing this video is just how small the turnout for Sho Tay's ethnically profiled meeting actually was. Something shown in this clip.

The other translation we have for you today is taken from coverage found in the newspaper Chinese Daily USA. Which, not entirely coincidentally, is owned by Arcadia City Councilman Sho Tay himself. It is a small world.


Something that remains important to note. While the TV news report did show the sparse size of this gathering, Sho Tay's newspaper offered no such images of the turnout. Meaning that just perhaps even he now recognizes that this attempt at building a race-based consensus for McMansion development was not successful.

Meaning that, despite the unfortunate assumptions of some, McMansions do not have as much support in Arcadia as first thought. No matter what portion of the community you are talking with.

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77 comments:

  1. What a very unamerican way of going about things. I'm a little confused about what I read. Can't help but feel it is divisive but then I'm not fluent in Mandarin.

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    1. American pols excel at this sort of stunt.

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    2. Divisive? This is a pep rally for the Asian community to unite and, Tay hopes, be subservient to their elected officials.
      It's a call for obedience under the guise of "nice community unity."

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    3. Hah! The Arcadian Civility Party!

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    4. He needs to be put on the next Walmart cargo ship headed back to China.

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    5. Wait a minute, a city councilman holds an outreach meeting only for a certain race? No mention where this meeting was held, but somehow this stinks to high heaven. Imagine if one of our council members held a meeting pitching the UUT but only spoke in Mandarin. Would this be legal? I don't think so. Council Member Tay is supposed to represent all the citizens of Arcadia, not just the Chinese. This is racism at its worst.

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    6. It's not just race. These are foreigners (non-residents) taking over a city by fiat. It's illegal as hell. Somebody needs to go to the State Attorney General.

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    7. The consumer complaint form for the State Attorney General is here

      https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company

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  2. While preservationists welcome everyone, Councilmember Tay focuses his attention on one race only.

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  3. One question is What Country Is This? America and in America the 1st language is ENGLISH if an American tried to have an English Only meeting in China he or she would have been charged with a CRIME and hauled away.

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    1. Sorry mate, you must be thinking your in England. This is actually America, where people have the freedom to speak whatever they want. Maybe you're the one who needs hauling.

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    2. The problem is not so much the language that is being used, as it is what is being said.
      And 6:34 is completely right - irritate a Chinese bureaucrat and you could end up in the pokey. Indefinitely.

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    3. 7:31 is correct - the US Federal Government does not recognize any official language. And just because Sho Tay can speak Madarin it doesn't mean he's from China. Do you know where he's from or are you just assuming?

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    4. What difference does any of that make?

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    5. By saying that "a large portion of the community was excluded from participating in these discussions" you are assuming the large portion of Arcadia is non Mandarin speakers! - That was long time a ago. :)

      If you walk into a local banks you have to look hard to find someone to help you in English. It's even worse in most shops. That's the new reality.

      Mr. Sho Tay is doing the old tested and true political trick of divide and concur. Having a Mandarin out-reach is not bad by itself, but he should have arranged for a translator so non-mandarin residents would have showed up.

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    6. Okay, 7:31Am-In America it never says you can speak whatever language you choose. It states that a citizen has the right to free speech-not language. I can say what I want as long as I don't create a hazard-like yelling, "fir." Okay, Mate?

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    7. nice try 4:29. thankfully our freedoms are protected from fascists like you

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    8. Why would anyone tell "Fir?" Is there a problem with the pine trees?

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  4. Equating McMansion with Chinese is an unfortunate stereotype. Why would Sho Tay promote that?

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    1. cause apparently he's a racist

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    2. He's not really promoting it. It's pretty accurate if you look at who's buying all these mansions in our City.

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    3. McMansion builders are a small minority, even among Asian residents.

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    4. BECAUSE famously the yuan is being offshored. That's a prime startup for McMansions, because there's no extradition treaty in place for the corruption that generates big cash flow. So it gets invested in the biggest pile of garbage they can come up with, and no concerns that their US property will be clawed back.

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  5. How ironic is it that Wuo called those opposing McMansions "racist?" This is absolutely ridiculous. When, oh when, will local, state, or federal officials get involved? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it must be a crooked Arcadia Councilmen on the take.

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    1. It's time to bar-b-q that duck.

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    2. Mandarin Duck

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    3. It is not ironic because he never said that opposing Mc mansions is racist.

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    4. What is if if you disagree with someone of a different ethnicity or orientation you are a racist or a phobe of some kind?

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  6. Maybe the dragon slayer PR company told him to do it and since Tay cannot think for himself, he figured it'd be a good idea.

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  7. Call it for what it is - a misinformation campaign for political gain. Sho Tay wants to retain control by the council so he, John Wuo and Roger Chandler, and they alone, can decide what is best for Arcadia and preserve the status quo - the loosest zoning code in the region. Typical politician. His votes and actions are solidly anti-resident yet professes to support residents.
    It will get worse Arcadia. Sho Tay and Roger Chandler will attempt to scare and divide various constituencies - ethnic groups and senior citizens, while John Wuo will rally the Arcadia Association of Realtors. All 3 are poised to vanquish their true enemy - the residents of Arcadia who disagree with the status quo and their lock on the process.

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  8. They really remind me of an aging boy band.

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  9. David Lin, pictured in second photo with stripped shirt, looks like that volunteer police guy at the police department. Sho Tay seems to be good friends with that guy. They seen around together often.

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  10. sssshhhhh, it's very hard to get money out of some countries. Governments don't like that. Instead of ruining a neighborhood it would be nice if new monies would fit into the community and especially offer new styles that showed creativity that fit into which ever part of town they were building. I for one do not want to live next door to a fortress, would make me feel like I was living in another country, not to mention the loss of privacy, air flow, feel of the sun. There are so many reasons why things need to change, let's all work together for the common good of all.

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  11. I have had a hard enough time understanding the rules for development in Sierra Madre, so I'm not at all up on Arcadia's. However, I can see that MacMansion after MacMansion all over that city has no real set backs and totally eats up the lots. The percentages Tay gives are on paper only.

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  12. Let the city council do its job?
    Nope. You lost the chance for that.
    Just like the Sierra Madre city council lost its chance to implement a development plan for downtown.
    There are consequences for your bad decisions.

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  13. The only color Sho Tay cares about is green. He is working hard for his well-heeled campaign donors.

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  14. Sho Tay lives in an alternate reality created by and for speculators. Arcadia's zoning code provides for up to 70% floor area - that's a 5,600 sf 2-story home on an 8,000 sf lot or a 10,500 sf 2-story home on a 15,000 sf lot - the lots sizes typical of much of Arcadia north to south. Many of the new homes are being built to these limits or seek variances to exceed them. Residents are seeking code changes to bring the limits in line with San Marino, Sierra Madre, Monrovia and other communities. Property values will be just fine. The speculators will also be just fine while making less profit per property. When residents demand change and take control, the only losers are politicians like Tay, Chandler and Wuo.

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    1. Wouldn't it be great if those changes were retroactive?

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  15. These politicians hyping the typical Chinese Communist party line are just disgusting. That's how corruption operates over there - under color of authority. "Stay in harmony with the leaders". Give me a break.

    Many Chinese came here to get away from that crap.

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    1. Stay in harmony with the leaders. Crap. Knuckle under to the corruption is more like it.

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    2. Harmonious relationships help Mcmansions bloom.

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  16. That police department man in stripped shirt is David Liu. Wonder why he uses alias "Lin"....maybe he doesn't want to be seen as a political person with his job.

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    1. I believe he is only a police volunteer. And in the post below he is apparently the man who translates Weibo posts. He's obviously Sho's buddy.

      http://arcadiapolice.blogspot.com/2015/02/arcadia-police-department-launches.html

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    2. Maybe the reporter got his name wrong.

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    3. Looks like all the speakers that evening were prescreened. Can't have anyone messing with the harmonious leader's agenda.

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  17. I am a foreigner. I am very glad to be here.I came here for American values not to subversively import corruption from the 'old country'. It frightens me when nice locals tolerate this sinister Communist stuff.
    I spent many years with communism and socialism. It is bad. Everyone except the politically well connected want to leave. Please Americans, don't let that happen here in Arcadia.

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    1. Well said, thank you! More folks like you need to speak up, and more importantly, register to vote and then go out and do it!

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    2. Great post 9:44.

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    3. Yes. Thank you. Proud that you are here.

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    4. What are you talking about 9:44 - Sho Tay is not from China and he's not communist. You are paranoid or prejudiced or both.

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    5. Sho Tay is just a messenger boy. And I am sick of his stupid constant smile. Only Miss America contestants smile like that.

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    6. So Mr. Tay is from Taiwan? Viet Nam? Korea? Doesn't matter. He's behaving like the worst kind of corrupt bureaucrat from the People's Republic.

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  18. Something about spending Arcadia TAX DOLLARS on a special group of wealthy Mandarin only speaking investors and or visitors who may not be card carrying AMERICANS will Arcadia became known as 'Empire Communist Arcadia' and will communist china came Arcadia as a renegade Chinese region?

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    1. Peacock Peoples Republic.

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    2. Arcadia is becoming a retirement community for Chinese Communist officials to live out their years in cheesey luxury. Ain't that nice?

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    3. Karl Marx must be rolling in his grave.

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  19. 9:44 - My plea to you is to please get involved. Those of us who are active in Sierra Madre have been so for decades. It gets very tedious, but it is preserving what we hold dear, and preventing the McMansionization that you see in Arcadia.

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    1. Amen 1:02. People underestimate the impact they can have, sometimes just by showing up and observing.

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    2. "90% of life is just showing up." - Woody Allen

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    3. The other 10% is putting up with crap.

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    4. What do you hold dear? A ranch house? Someone else's ranch house?

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    5. The happy hour crowd has started to show up. Example - 6:52.

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    6. 6:52 is a troll, clearly. S/he will not address the many legitimate complaints that neighbors have about smaller, older homes being razed and geegaw castles being put in their place, becuse s/he would come off as an idiot.

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    7. 6:52 is probably some nitwit from the Arcadia Association of Realtors.

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  20. Someone pointed out to me that it is a very interesting concept that Arcadia is there for the interest of the Chinese Speculators to invest their money. Maybe they should instead invest in the Chinese Stock Market!!

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    1. Realtors have told me that outside of the very top tier of properties there is a glut of houses for sale in Arcadia right now. So maybe they really are in the same boat as the Shanghai Stock Exchange.

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    2. I think there is a glut of houses for sale because the people that live in smaller homes want out of Arcadia. Most of those homes have fairly nice lots. Sell now, get good money to invest somewhere else. Those that have money in Shanghai, still have money. It may be harder to get out but they do it! Go Gem coins....

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  21. I'm worried for Arcadia. These guys are talking their dog and pony show on the road, and the less informed residents may believe that Tay and the Tayettes really care about them.

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  22. It seems April’s and my invitation to Councilmember Sho Tay’s
    “Community Outreach” meeting must have gotten lost in the mail, so we missed this one. Please send our regrets to Mr. Tay. Don’t worry though, we will make it to the next one.

    Sho Tay made reference to the ballot initiative at the meeting and described it as proposing a 20% FAR. This is incorrect. The ballot initiative allows 35% of the lot size up to a 10,000 sq. ft. lot, 15% of the lot size over 10,000 sq. ft. and a 5% bonus if the house is single story.

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  23. Let the RE-Education of Arcadia begin.

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  24. Arcadian's be warned don't let the McMansion crowd turn your fine city into a blighted slum complete with feudal lord castles dotting the horizon and bring a corrupt money laundering element into your boarders. Hold the line for a moratorium on demolition and building of issuing water meters permits.

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  25. Crook Ahoy, http://www.whittierdailynews.com/general-news/20150828/chinese-immigrants-targeted-in-30-million-pyramid-scheme

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    1. Is Arcadia a pyramid scheme?

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  26. I see the Arcadia city manager is starting to fight back and getting involved with dirty politics to lie cheat and steal again this is how a city flushes out the crooks in it's City Hall. Watch the lies come rolling out of Arcadia city hall to cover up and justify any and all actions concerning the current McMansion Process.

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  27. Proof that there is real surge a coming: http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/The-Chinese-superrich-are-about-to-flood-the-US-6473528.php

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  28. Mr Tay
    You bring very little to Arcadia. You're clueless at council meetings. You provide no insight or any provocative discussion. All you do is bring up motions such as the motion to approve the prior consent colander. This role is beyond your capacities. How many more times will be get to see Kovacic shread you to pieces. Please resign !!!

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  29. Mr Mayor I like to bring motion to approve consent calendar by title only and also inform you that I resign effectively immediately.

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