Saturday, August 22, 2015

Pasadena Star News: Arcadia’s fight against upscale blight of mansionization

Mod: Just a remarkable editorial from the Pasadena Star News yesterday. Longtime Tattler readers will recall a time when there was no press in favor of slow growth, and the foremost daily in our little neck of this world helped lead the way in advocating for development that victimized the residents of our area cities. Well, do you know what? Times have changed. And outside of the not exactly quaint retrograde McMansion messengers of the Arcadia Association of Realtors, along with their three increasingly isolated delivery boys on the Arcadia City Council, hardly anyone will publicly advocate for predatory development around here anymore. Yes, things have certainly changed. A whole lot. To view this entire editorial in its original setting, click here. "Upscale blight" indeed.


Mod: As good as it gets. It looks like we're not the only Tattler in the area anymore.

Preserve Sierra Madre: Planning Commission Stands Tall Against Latest Proposal for One Carter

Mod: The following e-mail went out yesterday from Preserve Sierra Madre.

Our Planning Commission and City Staff made it clear to the owners of the second house planned for One Carter/Stonegate, the Yih's and their architect Adele Chang, that their proposed house is incompatible with the requirements in the relevant city documents for building in that sensitive area.
 
You can find coverage of last night's meeting by the Sierra Madre Tattler. Read the comments at the end and join the discussion. The link to that article can be found at: http://sierramadretattler.com.

We will continue to keep you informed about developments at One Carter.

Mod: Always read the comments, and always join the discussion. 

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36 comments:

  1. GemCoin is backed by an amber mine. Just ask Councilmember Wuo. He attended many meetings.

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  2. Why is it that every time local government wants to act against the people (raising the uut for example) it embarks on an "education campaign"? Why doesn't it recognize that these become necessary only when the unwashed masses already understand the issue fully.

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    1. I think "education campaign" is a euphemism for propaganda. Just like it was done back in the 1930s.

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    2. Is this part of the $70,000 dollar deal the 3 Amigos did with that Covina PR firm? The one with the photographer called "The Spirit Taker?"

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    3. The assumption by the powers that be is that they know so much more, and it is their painful duty to patiently explain everything to the townies. Where things get fun is when the townies figure out how full of hoot the PTB are, and start making fun of them.

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    4. Ah, memories of John Buchanan, who couldn't help but sigh with weariness every time he launched into a lecture to the wayward preservationists of Sierra Madre.
      At least one lecture a meeting. More often, two.

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    5. Ah, the nightmares of the pompous John Buchanan, peering over his eyeglasses as he droned on lecturing about his more enlightened viewpoint....

      which was just serving the interests of his employer, So Cal Edison

      his legacy is that he stood in front of us and flat out lied about the UUT and did everything he could to undermine Measure V

      he was one of those who "loved" the city but sought to change it drastically

      wish him personally no ill will but as a Councilman, he was one of the worst and I certainly wish he'd butt out of city business because he's just not trustworthy

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    6. Buchanan was the green mayor. Yet no Sierra Madre municipal structure has solar panels. Oh, that's right. Johnny B world for coal-fired Edison. Solar is about to eat their lunch.

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  3. People are waking up to the unfairness when a McMansion is built that adversely affects the views, light, privacy and value of the neighbors' homes as well as the adverse impact that overdevelopment has on the community at large by using too much of our precious resources like water, displacing wildlife, removing open space and causing more traffic, pollution and congestion. The developers make their profit and the neighbors and community are left to deal with the consequences.

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    1. The demagogues that scream property rights everytime someone opposes a 8,000 square foot monstrosity never seem to remember that longtime residents are also property owners, and have rights.

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    2. You'll hear the developers screaming about their right to make a profit every time they target a residence. They've substituted the word "property" for "profit" and pumped out the propaganda for so long that people are now confused.

      Here's the deal: THERE IS NO EXPECTATION FOR PROFIT IN R-1 RESIDENTIAL AREAS. They are for families to live in. There is only a legal right or expectation for profit in multifamily, commercial and industrial areas. That's why municipalities always protect their R-1 areas; Pasadena is a prime example of that public policy. Pasadena Heritage has helped preserve the neighborhood property values by allowing residents to establish historic neighborhoods, and that's how policy is reinforced.

      So, developers have no rights at all in R-1 neighborhoods.

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    3. Good to know 7:58, but the development that has gone on in Pasadena commercial areas has hurt all the areas. It's gone from being a city with roomy streets and spectacular trees everywhere to a crowded, impossibly congested, full of tall boxes town. Just one example, look at that thing going up next to Vromans.

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    4. 6:43, 6:47, thanks.

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    5. 7:58 Please, what right does a 'longtime resident' have over a neighbor's property?

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    6. The right to contest the building of a sewage treatment facility, a nuclear power plant, or a looming life stealing McMansion.

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    7. 7:58. Works for me.

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    8. 9:56, a resident has the right to what that resident bought. And if a neighbor (maybe like you) moves next door and plans to destroy something of the existing neighbors', like light or privacy or air circulation, that newer resident needs to be stopped.

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    9. Thanks, 1:22, could you provide examples of applicable case law?

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    10. You stop them 4:15 with the things we did like changing the municipal codes and having a protective General Plan and requiring a CUP to make sure the Planning Commission and nearby neighbors have a say. We would not need these rules if people like you would be a good neighbor. Men are not angels which is why our system of checks and balances was necessary. Likewise, we need these rules to protect us against people like you. Forget the case law, look at the new zoning codes. Sorry but you can't build what you want any more in a Sierra Madre. Maybe your way is ok out in Montana when you have 20 acres between neighbors. But in our area what you do effects me so damn right I want a say over what you do.

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    11. 4:15 - blow up.

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  4. Preserve Sierra Madre is sent from heaven. Slight error in the email - It's the fifth house proposed for Carter.
    1. Capital Source Bank
    2. CETT
    3. CETT
    4. CETT
    5. The Yihs

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    1. Join and donate your time, abilities, and $$$$$$$.

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  5. We need to be careful about the language in our objections to McMansions. If we sound like the Style Police, it will be easy to defeat us.If the debate reduces to a squabble about style,the law gives us no support nor any remedy. There are much broader and more sinister issues and they are supported in law (unlike Style prejudices). The best presentation of our case is made by 6.43 above:
    "People are waking up to the unfairness when a McMansion is built that adversely affects the views, light, privacy and value of the neighbors' homes as well as the adverse impact that overdevelopment has on the community at large by using too much of our precious resources like water, displacing wildlife, removing open space and causing more traffic, pollution and congestion. The developers make their profit and the neighbors and community are left to deal with the consequences. "

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    1. Did you hear what our Planning Commission had to say?

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    2. 10:55 is right on the money. There are very specific words and phrases that we have to use in order to be effective. Whenever you approach these materials, pay special attention to the section called "Findings." That's where the legal requirements nestle.

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    3. Ultimately this is about being smart .Sarcastic questions like 12.04 are unhelpful. This issue is too important for that. Unfortunately there is a lot of well intentioned Style commentary that people(understandably) think bolsters our case.Legally,it does not,in fact it undermines our case. Once you give Adele and her lawyer the evidence that the denial of Planning Permission is based on Style preference and ethnicity -we loose. And that will be an expensive case to defend and it will open the flood gates to similar 'development'.
      The sarcastic and style based comments are not helpful.Perhaps that is the Trolls intent?

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    4. People can say what they want. It is a free country.

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    6. 2:04 guess you didn't see or listen to the PC meeting. Style was NEVER mentioned. Now, go outside and play. Let the adults that know what they are talking about take care of things.

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    7. 4:19, style was frequently mentioned, along with and distinct from design.

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  6. My husband and I lived in a shop house over the empty shop with the kitchen/"bathroom" facilities out back as Peace Corps volunteers in South East Asia. It was just the two of us and our Hokkien Chinese neighbors and others would always be astonished that we were in that "large" space just the two of us. Also, we were frequently asked where our children were, and without waiting for an answer, it was provided for us with a sample from local culture: your children must be home with your mother. Times have changed with the demographic shift around southern California, enormous big houses with smaller and smaller families. You do sometimes see a grandparent taking children to school but that is not so easy when it requires a car in most areas around the San Gabriel Valley.

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    1. Huh? And your point was?

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    2. Won't see granny walking any kids down the hill at 1 Carter.

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    3. Yeah, what is 11:06's post about?

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  7. Mod, you wrote a wonderful introduction - accurate and funny. Love the "three delivery boys."
    Down with predatory development and up with preservation.

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  8. The entire EB-5 program is facing reform in the Senate. EB-5 investor dollars are fueling development in SoCal, but the program is vulnerable to fraud.

    http://www.scpr.org/news/2015/08/21/53910/controversy-over-eb-5-immigrant-investor-visa/

    The bill is SB 1501, introduced in July. The bill would also raise the amount of investment required and help to restore the program to its original intent, by ensuring that much of the capital generated and jobs created occur in rural areas and areas with high unemployment.

    http://www.theiowastatesman.com/3381/grassley-sponsors-bill-to-reform-eb-5-program

    Bill as it stands now, referred to the Judiciary Committee
    https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/s1501/BILLS-114s1501is.xml

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