Saturday, August 8, 2015

Should Sierra Madre Join the Move to Dump the SGVCOG?

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There is an interesting article up on the Pasadena Star News news site today about a move by some area cities to abandon the San Gabriel Valley Council Of Governments and start a "COG" of their very own. An overdue move in the minds of some.

These cities would then create something they're calling the Arroyo Verdugo COG, an organization that would hopefully be far more responsive to the needs of cities located in the western portion of the San Gabriel Valley. The issue driving this breakaway move being the SGVCOG's senseless and, in my opinion, less than aboveboard support for the 710 Tunnel. Something that, if built, would have devastating environmental consequences for any of the cities located along the 210 Freeway. Including those who support building it.

Charges of unscrupulousness, of course, being no stranger to the SGVCOG (link).

Sierra Madre, which ponied up $50,000 in taxpayer dough a while back to join with several other cities in the fight to stop this tunnel (link), has yet to consider making such a move. Which kind of leaves the city in the unfortunate and somewhat schizophrenic position of having both paid money to fight this unhappy project, while at the same time also giving money to support the SGVCOG, an organization that has now made building the 710 Tunnel one of its very top priorities.

Hopefully the Sierra Madre City Council will give this disconnect a long hard look once they return from their long August break.

Here is the first portion of the Star News article:


The rest of this article can be found here.

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24 comments:

  1. We should have dumped the COG a long time ago.

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    1. We tried. We came close. Maybe this time it'll work.
      http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com/2009/09/scag-boss-hasan-ikhrata-admits-to.html

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  2. "Members in opposition said the issue was divisive, volatile and a vote could split the COG..."

    We should be so lucky!

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    1. Yes, as opposed to the tranquil and calm experience of knuckling under to the usual in power for life boobs from ratholes like Azusa and Alhambra.

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  3. Everyone should recognize a good opportunity here to join an organization that will be working for the good of the environment and all residents of the SGV. I will make it a point to support such a group.

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  4. You know the old saying: "If you build it, they will come." You think there is congestion now on the 210, just wait until after you build that tunnel. Every big diesel truck around will now be using the 210 freeway. It will be a disaster for the area. The 210 will turn into the 405. I also read in this morning's Star News that the old Beckham Place now Beckham Grill restaurant is going to be demolished after 37 years in existence - replaced by 200 new apartment units. Pasadena is already overcrowded as it is and now 200 more units. This is crazy. We just keep building and building until we ruin our quality of life completely. While Sierra Madre is somewhat insulated, we will feel the impact too. And now Mater Dolorosa wants to build the largest housing project Sierra Madre has seen in decades. This is crazy. Our quality of life is going to diminish so much, we'll be forced to move to Ohio or Idaho. But we deserve our fate because we are allowing this to happen. The developers don't care. They pocket the money and we are all left with the consequences. There are certain times of day where its very difficult to punch through Pasadena and certain times where you can't even be on the 210 freeway any more. Is this progress!

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  5. Halfwit comment on the PSN site from someone who thinks the 710 Tunnel will join the 210 and the 605:

    "Arrogant ignorant, lying,, elitist, self centered, spoiled, rich nimby's in La Canada and So. Pasadena who apparently only joined the COG to oppose the 710 tunne,l and leave the rest of us stuck on the 210 unable to get to the 605 to get to the rest of SoCa,l are threatening to quit the COG? I say good riddance. Now if we could only get rid of pandering grandstanding fools like Steve Madison who promote over-development in Pasadena, while opposing the 710 tunnel, maybe we could get some of this cut through traffic off of our local streets. And, wouldn't that be a nice change?"

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    1. Probably Barbara Messina.

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    2. You can always tell when Barbara has been around by the knuckle tracks in the mud.

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    3. Messina's philosophy is that if her constituents suffer from traffic related illnesses ( and they do), then you should too.

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    4. People should just move. Why live in an environmental disaster area?

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  6. "Members in opposition said the issue was divisive, volatile and a vote could split the COG..."

    In my opinion, the word "divisive" is a frequently misused buzzword...it implies that anyone who stands up for truth and justice is in the wrong.

    "...and a vote could split the COG..."

    We should be so fortunate!

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    1. Indeed. Time for a COG upgrade!

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  7. THE GOAL IS TO TURN THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY INTO A NEW YORK CITY AT - MUST - P HER! NO MORE CARS. JIST TRAINS AND BICYCLES. THE TUNNEL WILL BE USED BY THE TRAINS WHICH WILL BE MOVING PEOPLE ..... WE WILL HAVE OURSELF A BULLET TRAIN IN PASADENA AND SIERRA MADRE. we need to get off this ideas and find ourselves some water. You know, the stuff you put in a glass and swallow!!! . THE CAPS GUY

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  8. Careful CAPS GUY, you'll start having blood coming out of your...wherever!

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    1. Eyes. I've seen it. Not pretty.

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  9. If I read the Star-News article correctly, the COG is proposing the tunnel without trucks. "On June 18, the SGVCOG governing board voted 16-7 to send a letter to Caltrans and the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Agency in support of the tunnel alternative without trucks." Not that I am in favor of the tunnel, I'm not and I hope our council member was one of the 7 to vote no. However, I think we should all read an article thoroughly before we shoot off our opinion so we can be credible in making an argument. As for the blogger who referenced the 210 connecting with the 605 . . . If I'm not mistaken you can connect to the 605 via the 210 since I did this only last week.

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  10. THE INTENT IS TO COMPLETE THE TUNNEL WITH OR WITHOUT TRUCKS!

    BUT THE AGREEMENT WILL ALSO CHANGE TO ALLOW TRUCKS AT A LATTER DATE!

    NO DIFFERENT THAN OUR CITY COUNCIL & CITY MANANAGEMENT STATED, WE HAVE LOTS OF WELL WATER, JUST TO FIND THAT THE CITY OF SIERRA MADRE HAS NO ABILITY TO PUMP ANY WATER AT ALL!

    DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING ANY BODY SAYS!

    the caps guy

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    1. CAPS! The old bait + switch. What they do.

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    2. Sorry Mr Caps thinks he has to shout to be heard, but then most don't listen to such a negative argument.

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    3. Jah Love is the solution.

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  11. Pliase let us join the new COG, power in numbers!

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  12. The SGVCOG is disgraceful.

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