Thursday, September 3, 2015

Save Arcadia Highlands.com's Video Nails Roger Chandler

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As most anyone who saw Tuesday evening's Arcadia City Council meeting will tell you, the performance put on by Roger Chandler was both seriously incoherent and senseless.

Basic logic went flying out the window as an apparently hopelessly confused Councilmember Jolly Roger Chandler rummaged desperately through the cobwebbed and dusty items found in his otherwise empty attic looking for evidence that somebody might take seriously. And, after failing at that, got into an angry shouting match with a member of the audience attending this event.

But you hardly need me to tell you much about that, because we now have some truly remarkable video footage from Save The Arcadia Highlands.org that happily seals the deal for us. Click on the link conveniently located just below the grimacing visage of not so Jolly Roger to check it all out.

Click to view video here.

Interesting watching. One of the things that jumped out at me Tuesday was Roger Chandler's claim that preserving Arcadia would somehow cause the value of your home to decline a lot. This is exactly the same kind of big lie message we heard here in Sierra Madre when the failed campaign to defeat Measure V was dragging its well-fuzzed knuckles all over the town.

A disinformation campaign that was run by some of the very same people now working to stop a similar preservationist initiative in Arcadia, by the way. Measure V prevailed, of course, and rather than that massive home equity decline claimed by these fibbing knuckleheads, housing values in Sierra Madre have been rapidly increasing ever since.

And why is that true? Why is what Roger Chandler said repeatedly Tuesday evening so inherently fraudulent? Easy. People will naturally pay more to live in a community that didn't succumb to ersatz cookie cutter mansionization than one that did. People want the authenticity of home architecture that slowly evolved over the decades, not the rushed to market jumbo motley crap we can now see being thrown up all over Arcadia.

Much of which doesn't seem to be able to even find buyers, and sits empty for months at a time.

You don't need to look any farther than Sierra Madre to see how preservation is profitable. Don't believe Jolly Roger's obvious nonsense.

He's just saying what somebody told him to say. And not very well.

sierramadretattler.com

97 comments:

  1. That video is a powerful indictment against Roger Chandler. This is what happens when a Council Member gets elected who is in the pocket of the developers. He promotes that narrow interest at the expense of the rest of the community. He talks about private property rights. What about the private property rights of the nearby neighbors who perhaps have lived in their home for 30 years and bought their home for the specific attributes that their home provides whether its for the views they have, the natural light coming through the windows or the privacy in their backyard. All that can get destroyed when someone builds a McMansion the size of an aircraft carrier next door. Sure the developer just made a few hundred thousand dollars or more in profit and maybe the value of the neighbor's land becomes more valuable if they sell out to a developer who does the same thing and screws over their neighbors in turn like a domino effect through the whole neighborhood. But what if you like your neighborhood and your house and don't intend on moving. I'm not sure if you care that your land value may have increased a bit. Homes are to live in and not just to try to realize the maximum profit you can. Besides all that, the other way to increase the value of your land if that's all you care about is to preserve the charm and character of the neighborhood just like an area like Bungalow Heaven in Pasadena. Imagine if they had allowed developers to tear down those homes and build those hideous monstrosities that they are building in Arcadia. The values would go down overall and not up. Because they preserved the character of the neighborhood, everyone's values go up and not just for the few who want to cash out or the developers who just want to build the biggest home they can to maximize their value.

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    1. Chandler is a crook pure and simple. Hiding being private property rights for his extreme position is just a red herring. He's got other motivations and its probably the money.

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    2. The video lays it out about as clear as can be. Thanks Tattler for publishing it. Every good citizen of Arcadia needs to see that. Please get the word out. If you are not a developer, we need your help.

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    3. I think you've got it right 5:54.

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    4. Speaking of jumbo, motley crap - who in the world bought those houses on Camillo? Also, drive by the house going up at the NW corner of Santa Anita and Grand View. Remember the older couple who live next door who appealed to City Council? Yup, their privacy will be gone, their property's value diminished, and it will be a travesty to Sierra Madre to have that house as the gateway to our city.

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    5. A few are still slipping in there because the new rules were not in place at the time they got their permit. Consider them a monument to what the entire city would like like if we hadn't have made those changes to the code and the General PLan

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    6. Yes, 12:16! They will be monuments to bad codes.

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    7. How do I sign up for the recall campaign?

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    8. Count me in too for the recall.

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  2. The bottom line here is that Mr. Chandler has chosen the developers who will build and leave vs. the neighbors who intend to stay and are left holding the bag with the consequences of these over-sized homes that are incompatible with a neighborhood and destroy the character of a neighborhood, Then you ask yourself who is this person representing anyway.. It is evident he continues to pay back the handful of developers who contributed to his campaign. There may even be out and out corruption here. How do we know if some of these pro-development council members are not getting bribes under the table by developers? It would be naive to think that couldn't happen. It has happened many times before and that's just when we find out about it. But what other explanation can there be for a City Council Member to be that enthusiastically in favor of the developers' positions across the board?.

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    1. Pretty impressive video that calls him out. I guess one lesson here is how to you prevent a guy like that from getting into office in the first place and causing all this carnage. Were there indications when he was running for office? I do think that it helps to follow the money and find out who is contributing to someone's campaign. You can bet those contributors expect to get a return on their "investment".

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    2. I think the guy is getting money under the table to vote a certain way. Its not the first time its happened.

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    3. With people like this on the City Council is it any wonder why Arcadia has been having problems. What a clown.

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    4. 6:02, right! And the biggest problem? Uninformed voters. Just like what we went through.
      And with Tay running his civility meetings, and way too many residents taking everything at face value, it's a tough fight.

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    5. That's why we in Sierra Madre have to be vigilant. He sounds like Gene Goss and his invisible "many residents who don't come to City Council meetings" who want property rights - a/k/a the developers. I must give Goss credit, he's done the right thing lately, but he is most definitely worth watching.

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    6. Unlike Chandler, Goss possibly believes in some of the more developer-friendly positions he has taken. But I don't think Goss can be bought. Chandler on the other hand is as crooked as they come. I truly believe that he is a dishonest person. Overall, Goss has come around on most issues. So please don't put Gene in the category of a Chandler. Our City Council has been excellent and that includes Gene Goss.

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    7. Agreed 12:19. They're not perfect, but overall the most constructive group of council members we have had in decades.
      It wasn't all that long ago that we were in the same position Arcadia finds itself in now, 2 good 'uns and 3 shills.

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    8. The interesting thing or the sad thing depending on how things turn out is that if in that very big city of Arcadia, you can muster up just a hundred or so committed people, you can win these fights including kicking a pathetic city councilman like Chandler out of office. It doesn't take that many but its hard to find them because people are too eager to let others do the work on their behalf. Step up to the plate Arcadia and get involved. Tell your friends, do something. Send an email at least but do something.

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    9. I agree. Sierra Madre's City Council is not perfect but when you look at the long list of accomplishments in preventing the mansionization of Sierra Madre, almost all the votes were unanimous. I will vote to keep the present City council intact for as long as possible and that includes Goss and Harabedian.

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    10. Arcadia needs a savior. Sierra Madre had it in Denise Delmar and Rochelle Arizmendi. Delmar in particular has been the catalyst for everything that has been accomplished. In other words, one person can make a difference.

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    11. Me, too, 5:03. Let's encourage Harabedian and Capoccia to run again. After some growing pains, they've all done a great job and for the most part work well together.

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    12. Agreed 6:33. I would like this same City Council in place for another few years to solidify the gains. Too risky to break things up now.

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  3. You obviously have a corrupt City Council Member who has been bought off by contributions to his campaign and perhaps other methods of payment that have yet to be discovered. I wouldn't put it passed this guy. He needs to be removed from office by the good people in Arcadia. He is one bad apple.

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    1. Arcadia is really up against it with some of these City Council Members they have whether its Chandler, Wuo or that other guy Shay or whatever his name is. One recall or one good election just like what happened in Sierra Madre can change everything. That's their only hope. Before they can have meaningful change, they will need to remove the bad apples from office. I must say that I have nothing but admiration for the Save the Arcadia Highlands Group. They are fully engaged in what is going to be the last chance to save their community. Every good and decent person needs to help them.

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    2. Devastating video. This guy needs to be recalled!

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    3. Great post 6:15.
      Tay, Sho Tay is the other one.
      And yes, they are that bad.

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    4. If Arcadia goes down, we can all say that the Save the Arcadia Highlands folks, are going to go down swinging. You have to admire that. They will not roll over without a fight. They just might win. As Lincoln said: "Right makes might."

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    5. Sho Tay is in the pocket of Singpoli for starters - Note where/who he was with when he "won" the election..

      http://mtnviewsnews.com/v08/htm/n15/p06.htm

      Plenty of palm greasing going on in Arcadia

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    6. If they can get the bodies to the meetings, they will win. The City Council Members need to see some bodies. That or an FBI indictment will do it for them.

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    7. When are some of those folks up for re-election. If its not too far out, then wait for the election and vote them out. If their terms are not up for some time, then we need to take matters into our hands and recall them. Let them feel the wrath of the unwashed masses.

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    8. That guy should be recalled immediately. He should not be holding office for a day longer than necessary.

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  4. White man speak with forked tongue.

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  5. That is quite a picture. It looks like he is passing a kidney stone.

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  6. Chandler is the best Councilmember money can buy.

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    1. Roger favors the property rights of whoever gives him campaign cash.

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    2. He obviously doesn't care about the majority of his constituents. He should be drummed out of office.

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    3. Someone should throw a shoe at him the same way they threw it at George Bush at that press conference. Bush was nimble enough to duck and not get hit. This guy doesn't seem quite so nimble.

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  7. The one name that seems to show in alot of place is Mur-Sol Development. Who are these people anyway? They seem to be responsible for the majority of these over-sized McMansions springing up around the San Gabriel Valley. If anyone knows the names behind it, please let the folks know. They are making alot of money at our expense.

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    1. Granted its a free country but Mur Sol has their fingers in alot of election campaigns. Its a legal bribe to not enact rules that would affect them.

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    2. 6:21 I disagree - I'm seeing a lot of the group called Chateau (yep) and Tipping Point (look at the thing on Santa Anita and Grandview that the neighbors tried to stop, and our Planning Department said "So sorry" about). There is an abundance of these developers out there ruining neighborhoods. Muir Sol is one of many.

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    3. Mur-Sol is one of many, but I see there signs in so many places that I feel they are the major player here. They are making big profits at our expense by building over-sized homes that are not compatible with the neighborhood. For the neighbors we wish to remain in the community where they grew up, their homes block views, violate privacy, prevent the natural light from coming in, cause further overall congestion in cities with their 5-6 bedroom and multiple residents and often multiple families living in the house which all leads to a reduction in value and enjoyment for the neighbors.

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    4. Mur Sol will exploit any rule they can. If they do live in Sierra Madre, they don't care about their neighbors. Profit is their bottom line. If the neighbors get hurt in the process. so be it.

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    5. Mur Sol does alot of business and they contribute to many campaigns. Any candidate who accepts a donation from them or their principles should be disqualified from office as far as I'm concerned.

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    6. Watch who Mur Sol and the other developers put their money on, those candidates are compromised and should not be elected. These developers contribute to campaigns, exploit loopholes, you name it. We have to be equally cagy in beating them back.

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  8. Go to their website at www.SavetheArcadiaHighlands.org Give this group your support because, as you can see, they need as much help as they can get if they are to win this battle.

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  9. Looks like white man speaks with forked tongue.

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  10. Chandler looks a little bit like Sir Dennis Eaton-Hogg from Spinal Tap.

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  11. Thirty years ago a group from Sierra Madre Homeowners Assoication loaded up a van and went to a Slow Growth meeting in the San Fernando Valley: Edie Dane, Margaret Buckerner, Joy Louise Hartai Smith, Midge Morash, Karl and Ruth Teigler, Yolanda Malone, Verna Chilton, Art Hartanian, Caroline Brown. All of these people, except Caroline, are gone now and now the members of Preserve Sierra Madre, have carried the banner onward for Sierra Madre. They are the age now that those people were then when they started the Homeowners Association. One of their first accomplishments was to get an agreement signed by the owner of the two parcels at Chantry Gate to restrict the number of lots on one parcel from 4 to 2 and on the second parcel from 35 to 11 (Fifty-four people showed up at the City Administrator's office to sign the letter of agreement with the landowner's attorney!) Later the Sierra Madre Mountain Conservancy bought both parcels. The groundwork was laid and the work continues. Sierra Madre protected the hillsides with land purchases and conservation easements and the downtown with Measure V. It is Arcadia's turn to get a move on and stop this mansionization madness. Mur-Sol has built a few homes in Sierra Madre but not the monsters that Arcadia allows.

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    1. Look at the Muir Sol condos on Mariposa close to the library, north side of the street. The enormous massing blocks the mountains completely.

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    2. Can you really blame the developers? The disloyal city government of Arcadia has thrown the city open to them. Of course they are going to take advantage.

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    3. Thank you Caroline Brown for your boundless energy and optimism for fighting for our town!

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    4. We have had some good and committed people in Sierra Madre over the years and are very lucky in that regard. As mad as I am at the developers, I guess I don't blame them for not caring about the carnage that results from their McMansions. It is up to the far more numerous residents to rise up and do something about it. Its your community. You have the right to determine what it should look like by passing rules, regulations, codes and a Good General Plan. If you are apathetic about all this, then you get what you deserve. Some people will throw up their hands when they realize they are doing all the heavy lifting and most of those who benefit from what they are doing, don't even lift a finger to help. If everyone did a little, there would not be a need for a few people to do a lot.

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    5. Caroline Brown has done so much for Sierra Madre and continues to fight for what's best. My hats off to her.

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    6. In consider Caroline Brown to be like the senior statesman of the preservation movement. She is a jewel. We are lucky she's on our team.

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  12. What ever happened to the Soul Thief and the gang of PR nincompoops that took 70k from city hall to help Arcadia improve its image?
    Dominic Lazaretto should have just taken that money, put it in a pile and burned it with some incense at a Buddhist temple for all the good it's done the city.
    Since the hiring we've found out that John Wuo gem coins are backed by amber mine, Sho Tay is shady and Roger Chandler is in the pocket of developers.
    We've also learned that old Dom chose to write a whiny complaint letter to the Star-News instead of seeking it's support.
    Clearly all that money was wasted. Where's the hook? it's time for these fools to go.

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  13. Great video Highlands! Clear as could be.

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  14. A council member this bad creates a loss of power for the council he's on. The people need to remove the ability for the council to make decisions on development.

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    1. Great point. When a city council is at war with the people it was elected to serve, there is no choice but to go directly to the ballot.

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    2. The representatives of the people either represent, or get relegated to pencil pushing. They can enforce code the residents put in place with a majority vote.

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    3. Chandler, Tay and Wuo have lost touch with citizens they were elected to represent. Their heads were turned by money.

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    4. I'm going to butcher the names a bit but April Verlato and David Arivsu are heroes as far as I'm concerned.

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    5. They are the people who have to get a whole lot of other people involved.

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    6. Some councilmembers who have been in office for too long begin to only talk to developers and those in related businesses. They lose touch with their constituents and begin to think they know better. Chandler might be one of those.

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    7. That video is absolutely devastating. Do those folks have professional videographers helping them out or what.

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  15. We still have the same problem in Sierra Madre. It's just a little quieter now. Don't forget Harabedian's changes to the changes in the municipal code to help his buddy Felikian. And Goss? Wait and see where the pro union guy ends up. And the Mayor? Prides himself in doing all the research, ad nauseum, yet can't face down his beloved city manager. Mur-sol? They live here in Sierra Madre, so I'm told. Go figure. I was at the CC meeting when they were given permssion to build the monstrosity condos. Can you imagin paying that much money for 2200 sf condo, some houses are that size, with no pool or rec room? At least they had to pull up the original landscaping because they tried to do it with disregard to the original plans. Now we have the mystery guest house to contend with. We need to fix the fact that anyone in city hall gets to okay anything on their own. The Planning department or whatever they call themselves these days, should not be omnipotent. Also, the new head never seems to come out of his office and Leticia seems to his job regularly. That needs to be questioned. So much still to do.

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    1. 9:54 is right. We still have to be careful in Sierra Madre because it could all turn on a dime. I don't have an opinion about this new guy Gonzales one way or another. I just don't know him. We'll see if he wants to perform in accordance with the new job title as Director of Planning and COMMUNITY PRESERVATION. Its the last part that I want him to adhere to.

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    2. Gonzales is Elain's puppet. When he speaks, which is hardly ever, you will see Elain's hands moving. (controlling the strings)

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    3. Of course. Can anyone imagine Elaine Aguilar hiring an independent thinking employee?

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    4. Gonzales worries me. He's too quiet. Maybe he's got his finger in the wind and wants to be careful. Hopefully he will align himself with the right people.

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    5. Or hire someone who actually lives in town?

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    6. We all know that Elaine should have hired John Hutt, but at least we have him back on the Plannin Commission.

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    7. The developers can't outsmart Hutt. He's knows their game better than they do. The only difference is that Hutt cares about the community where he lives. I feel pretty good having him on the Planning Commission. He's not only very smart but also a pretty nice guy. Our Planning Commission is now as good as our City Council. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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  16. Mr. Mod,
    Any truth to the rumor that Roger Chandler hired Nancy Walsh to help him speech write?

    "Jolly" Roger sure sounded a lot like "I'll take you out" Nancy.

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  17. Tay is no different than Chandler except that Tay plays the race card as well.

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  18. Those condos are not the worst in town. Check out the mess just to the west (almost to the corner with Park) that were built by a Sierra Madre "darling" married to a realtor (she divorced him, bless her heart) who eventually left town when he was observed "peeping" into neighbors windows.* I met people who lived there and their closet doors would not open or once opened would not shut. Also, not too long ago was at a Preserve Sierra Madre meeting on the next street south and their back yard was over shadowed by those condos. *Some of the Tattler readers will remember who this was!

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    1. What streets are they on/close to?

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    2. Same street as these Mursol condos, Mariposa--west of the back parking lot library drive-way. They are Cape Cod fakeries, greay with white trim. Had to have been built there in the 1980's. I try to find the date. Garages are underneath so that jacks up the first and second story. It is a problem with R-3 zoning--what is allowable per lot.

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    3. Ah those. Famously bad.

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    4. I feel sorry for the neighbors directly across the street from what Mur Sol built. Completely blocked their views. Too much building for the lot.

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    5. Built in 1987.

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    6. I just hope they can't build this stuff around town any more. The rules are now stricter. We've chased these developers out of town for the most part. Let them go and ruin another town.

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    7. Those "Cape Cod" like townhomes have the world's steepest steps. And have you seen how steep the West driveway is? What an abject horror of a project.

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  19. Just got a new term for all this (from a site pointing out the mess within some private holdings in National Parks and Forest areas: TROPHY HOMES! Oh yeah!

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    1. I prefer a word found in Urban Dictionary
      HIDEOSITY-A monstrously large, hideously ugly McMansion. A cross between hideous and monstrosity.

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  20. Jolly Roger will emerge as one of the nastiest councilmen Arcadia has seen when all is said and done.

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    1. He will certainly be given a lot of opportunities to act up.

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    2. He's a real ........ Fill in the blank.

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  21. Joe Mosca is trying a comeback on the government circuit. He has applied for a commissioner position on the Encinitas Parks and Rec. Commission.

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    1. Isn't that old news, 3:44? Or is he applying again? The Encinitas blog handled him pretty well...

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    2. Mosca should not be in any position of authority.

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    3. It was in February.

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    4. Here's the Parks & Rec commission from the Encinotas city website. Looks like they've dodged a bullet so far...unless he's somewhere else in the city. Talk about a bad penny.

      REPRESENTATIVE

      Elizabeth Brady Commissioner
      Cheryl Broom Commissioner
      John Gjata Commissioner
      Doug Goad Commissioner
      Marge Kohl Commissioner
      Doug Long Commissioner
      Michael Murray Commissioner

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    5. Makes me feel ill to think of Joe wiggling his way into that city government. Such a liar, such a fraud.

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  22. 3:44 - Are they going to make a sit-com about him (Mosca) if he gets the position?

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  23. Does anyone remember that guy that ran in Arcadia's last City Council election? I think his name was Brink. (Can't remember for sure, old age and all). Didn't he just missed getting elected? Does anyone know where he stands or if he is running again??

    We should have voted him in! Arcadia probably wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. Let's get people voted in who aren't bought off by developers!

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  24. Mursol is based in Glendora... at one time he wanted to buy our apartment complex situated there.

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