Tuesday, October 6, 2015

Tonight's Arcadia City Council Meeting Looks Like It Will Be Off The Chain And Out In The Streets

Things apparently are getting quite heated over at the home of the Prancing Peacock. Protect Arcadia's Future, which is basically the McMansion crowd funded by some of the fattest developers in Los Angeles County, is planning a protest demonstration at tonight's city council meeting against Saving Arcadia. The reason for this rancorous slice of street circus? They claim, apparently with no attribution, that Saving Arcadia is racist.

Now I haven't seen any evidence of such a thing. Or at least no one has sent me anything proving it. If I had seen something I'd certainly have called it out. Personally I cannot imagine anyone could be quite that stupid. Why would anyone be dumb enough bring racial politics into a municipal land use dispute?

You can never underestimate stupidity, I guess. My shot in the dark theory is that this is just standard political jabberwocky designed to demoralize and darken the reputation of the slow growth folks in Arcadia. It is an old and nasty trick that has probably been used a thousand times before. Kind of like what happened in Sierra Madre when the Reelect Joe Mosca campaign claimed that the opposition to his candidacy wasn't based on his having flip-flopped on each and every one of his past campaign promises, rather it was fueled by homophobia.

Like anybody cared.

However, considering some of the individuals running the opposition to Saving Arcadia's efforts to stop further McMansion driven architectural degradation and property devaluation, it does look like a case of "Old Dogs - Old Tricks" syndrome. That and some flat-out butt kissing by certain marginal realty and media folks because they think there will be some money in it for them.

All that said, there is one place where I have seen a little bit of racial animosity. And that is on the We Chat site. In case you are not aware, We Chat is kind of like Twitter for people who speak Mandarin. Apparently Arcadia City Councilmember Sho Tay enjoys swapping posts with his fans there, most of whom are in the real estate trade.

Now I have had the item posted below for a little while, and until now did not believe I should be posting it here. But now? What the hell, I'll let it rip.

Apparently Sho Tay and his fans were upset over the Saving Arcadia lawn signs they had seen. Check out Sho Tay's weird comment on "white people," followed by a smiley face. Translations are included.


Could this be a case of the pot calling the kettle black? A privileged majority having an entitlement tantrum? Whatever the case, it could be a wild one in Arcadia tonight.

Wear your helmet.

Arcadia Vs. Sierra Madre Real Estate Trends

Somebody posted the following observations today. I thought it would be best to answer the commenter here. This actually is fair criticism.

The two graphs in this article are comparing two different things. It is comparing Arcadia's Median Sales Prices to Sierra Madre's Zillow Home Value Index, which is based on the Zillow Zestimate Price. The Zestimate Price is calculated from public and user-submitted data, taking into account special features, location, and market conditions.

For a more accurate comparison, one must compare Arcadias Median Sales Price with Sierra Madres Median Sales Price, OR Arcadias Zillow Zestimate Price with Sierra Madres Zillow Zestimate Price.

If anyone is interested in the actual comparison here is the Zillow Home Value Index Price and Median Sales Price for Arcadia and Sierra Madre:

Zillow Home Value Index Price checked on Zillow.com on 10/06/2015:

Arcadia = $1,090,000 Current 
Sierra Madre = $869,000 Current

Zillow Median Sales Price check on Zillow.com on 10/06/2015:

Arcadia = $938,000 Current
Sierra Madre = $821,000 Current

Here is the link to Zillow Home Prices and Values for everyone to use for themselves: http://www.zillow.com/home-values/

OK, point taken. Here are the Sierra Madre and Arcadia graphs showing median sales prices only. Doesn't change that much, though. Sierra Madre is still trending way up, while Arcadia continues to tank.



There you go. As always, I aim to please.

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78 comments:

  1. So much for representing all of the people...

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    1. I hope there is a big riot.

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    2. Just another giant leap backwards for Arcadia.

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  2. No kidding. I will be filling away the info on Mimi Song too. I happen to be white and I have TWO of those racist signs in my yard. I also wonder how come almost all the signatures on my petitions so far from my neighborhood are Chinese? I will be doing a lot more research next election on the council candidates.

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    1. There's an unfortunate burden on any people of Asian ancestry to show themselves to counter that racist mudslinging.
      At least it can be done....the homophobia was harder to disprove. Have a Gay Rights parade at the council meeting?

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    2. What mudslinging? Can you name a specific instance?

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    3. Is this all about defending John Wuo? Is that it? Is the FBI racist?

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  3. Mimi sounds like a nut. She's the leader of this divisive demonstration?

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    1. She's a Realtor. Take it from there.

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    2. I thought she was slick. "Thank you city councilman."
      Very Stepfordian.

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  4. I guess some Arcadia councilman are finally heeding the Mayor's call for leadership. Unfortunately, they are leading Arcadia in a race to the bottom. Pretty much as expected ... politicians fueling fears and divisions based on money, age and race. Appealing to the worst. It's disgusting.

    Don't let this distract from the real villains in Arcadia: Chandler, Tay and Wuo. Wuo is under investigation by the FBI and FPPC. Recall he was the mastermind raising funds for play dates to China. Tay runs a "50-shades of gray" business empire built on guns, gambling, dating services, propaganda, MLM drug sales and real estate speculation. But his real business seems to be Sho Tay. Chandler is the king of unintelligible utterances.

    Plenty of Chinese and Taiwanese Americans and immigrants alike support preservation and growth with limits.
    Chinese-Americans and Chinese immigrants are the primary victims of John Wuo's association with Steve Chen. Billionaire's like Steven Chen and Solomon Yang preyed on immigrants and got richer off them.

    If Sho Tay turns this into a racial divide, the real victims are the ones who listened to him. Say, didn't he campaign on bringing the city together? Hmm...

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    1. Can you explain Tay's businesses? His official bios just say he is a businessmen, but I never knew he does gambling or drug business.

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    2. I think he is a professional phony.

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    3. 1:22
      Thank you for your service to your community. ...lots of people in Sierra Madre are wishing y'all good luck.

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    4. Where's your proof 127? I think your libelous and slanderous accusations are exactly why people suggest there is racism in the Save the Arcadia Highlands group.

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    5. Questioning the integrity of public figures is not racism, 2:03. It is a function of a free people to hold their leaders responsible for their actions. That is what is happening now with John Wuo. Others are also suspected of illegal deeds. The corruption in Arcadia is just beginning to be exposed. In America we are not afraid to discuss the affairs of prominent people, and point fingers where they need to be pointed.

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    6. Thank God for the FBI.

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    7. Racism is what they say when they've lost the argument...

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    8. Hear, hear 2:08! Beautifully said.

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  5. Tay's FPPC disclosure cites <$100K each from ChineseDailyUSA and the Arcadia Masonic Center. There is no mention of any other endeavor including:

    YUP Racing and YUP News - online horse racing gambling from Kin Hui and Singpoli for Chinese Americans
    an MLM neutraceuticals drug business, Amway Emerald-class executives
    La Puente Firing range
    a Dating website with his trademarked name

    these may not all be money-making ventures and he may have limited direct involvement in some, but how would we know?

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    1. Creepier and creepier

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    2. Sho Tay dating service? Really? Is there a picture of him with that Miss America smile?

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  6. It would be interesting to find out what Sho Tay put on his Form 700 and what he actually does.

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  7. I would think that when somebody discloses something on a campaign finance document they are being honest. How much honesty is there when an unincorporated group files a lawsuit against the city without naming the principles of their "association"?

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    1. Will you be having any cheese with that whine?

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    2. John Wuo did not put his business relationship with Steve Chen on his Form 700 filing, 2:17. Did he get an GemCoin exemption for that?

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  8. FPPC Form 700 is available for all at : http://www.fppc.ca.gov/index.php?id=734

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  9. Hey 2:17 - errors of omission are still errors. No one's asking for 10 years of tax returns like a presidential election. But the disclosures to date seem to be lacking for someone like Mr. Tay and his many interests.

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  10. So Mr. Tay thinks white people are stupid. Fine. He is entitled to his opinion. But answer me this. What do you call an elected official who gets busted for saying idiotic stuff in a public chat room? Hmm??

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  11. 2:33 Status quo.

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  12. The bullying must stop. The racism must stop. Arcadia should be for all people, not just the loud people who use lies and slanders to shout down the silent majority of residents. Most people want a better future for their family and they don't want a minority of people to dictate rules that should be decided by the city council and the experts.

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    1. The City Council? You mean that small group of men that numbers John Wuo among them? A person who is at the center of the worst corruption scandal in Arcadia history? No thanks.

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    2. That is a dangerously naive statement, 3:05.

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    3. Bowing down to corrupt government is slavery.

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  13. If Whites were buying all the Arcadia McMansions instead of Asians, will this issue still be this big?

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    1. The issue is respecting the rights of your neighbors. It has nothing to do with race.

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    2. Yes, 3:14. White or Asian, no one has the right to ruin the property of their neighbors.

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    3. Really 3:20? Then respect the right of your neighbors and allow them to build the home they want to live in instead of forcing them to live in a termite infested and run down shack built 40 years ago by a sleazy low bid contractor.

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    4. Do paranoid much, 3:31?

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    5. The whites are the ones selling... blame them.

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    6. right on 3:31!

      3:37 is trolling

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    7. Are they forcing you to live in a doghouse too, 6:33? Lotta crazy in Birdtown.

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    8. 6:32 - The Arcadia real estate market is in the toilet. Nobody wants to buy in a town with all those butt ugly McMansions around.

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    9. 6:53 sorry - pal, it's a clever argument supported by select stats, but it doesn't hold weight.

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    10. Yes, Zillow has joined the conspiracy. Pull up the drawbridges around those McMansion moats. Oh, and lie.

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  14. The We Chat folks think people are jealous of them? Oh gosh. I think the illusions might be so thick that there's no getting through to them.

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  15. It's amazing how personal attacks like calling people paranoid are used on this blog to shout down reasonable and logical arguments. It really shows what the anti modernization people are really all about. Good luck to you. You're on the wrong side of history.

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    1. Sounds like you have gotten used to not being taken seriously. Good for you!

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    2. Define modernization. In your own words. Let's see what you are really saying.

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  16. The only racist statement I have heard from anyone in this mess came from Sho Tay.

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  17. History 3:42? If you look outward and not inward you'll see the city of Arcadia is on the wrong side of this issue compared to nearly every other city in the area.

    Many cities in the area have enacted moratoriums while they consider making their zoning codes even more restrictive. They already are tighter than Arcadia's code. They use measures such as a FAR to help communicate what is allowed and what isn't.

    The moratoriums are in response to the development practices that consistently build out to the edges of property lines and seek additional variances. It's a reaction to what's happening in their cities, not an effort to squelch property rights.

    Arcadia has several design review zones that require extra review by residents - it's part of the city code - so it's not true that speculators or homeowners can do whatever they want. But as the limits have been pushed further and further through direct appeals to the city council, and as more of those appeals are approved by the council, the council is subverting the very process of resident-led design review that is part of the code (law) in Arcadia.

    It is the development practices and council decisions that are at issue. As a result, there is little recourse but a resident-led effort to change the law and bring Arcadia into alignment with the neighboring cities.

    Sale of a new $3M, 4,500 sf home still provides a lot of profit to the seller, builder and realtor. If it is also more respectful of the existing homes in the neighborhood, isn't that a good thing?

    Make a profit and be respectful for others? Maybe that should be the slogan.

    There is no other agenda and if you believe differently then we should talk more.

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  18. Everyone, go look at the picture of John Belushi again. You'll laugh and lighten up and then we can all go for a beer.

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    1. "Are you not entertained?" - Maximus

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  19. Dear Mimi - I will put my lawn sign on whatever part of my front yard I want. Thank you.

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  20. All Mimi cares about is putting a For Sale sign at the houses Mur Sol builds.

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  21. Sho Tay and John Wuo have absiolutely ruined the Arcadia City Council.

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  22. Meeting is on:
    http://spectrumstream.com/streaming/arcadia/live.cfm

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  23. Ah,"modernizing" said by the first pro-over development speaker. So that's their buzz word.
    And this guy is attacking privacy concerns, and arguing that privacy can only be found in a cave. Quite an idiot.

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    1. Don't be so harsh 7:23. Maybe he just doesn't understand what the word means.

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    2. Lotta dumb public comment tonight in Arcadia. Apparently only "experts" are allowed to participate in making decisions in Arcadia. Why are these people such authority junkies?

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    3. They are authority junkies, as you so aptly put it, because they believe the lies that they have been told. And they must think that their own intelligences are not sufficient.

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  24. Ok, I thought this could be fun, but it's a concerted attack by pro development types. Nothing creative or original there. And it sounds a lot like Schubert Flint type babble. Or California Association of Realtors.

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  25. Yeah, they're just at the beginning.

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    1. It's a long road and a tough fight.

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  26. Here's a guy threatening anyone who wants to control development with deed restrictions. Another plain old scare tactic.
    C'mon folks, somebody do something original! One damn thing?

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    1. All of the same lies we heard here.

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    2. Funny viewing all this from a Sierra Madre perspective. So much of this nonsense we have seen and heard before. Weird watching people live this for the first time.

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  27. Many of these speakers are arguing for subservience, as though it's a virtue.
    They should just write "Obey" on their foreheads.

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    1. Yes. Democracy is bad. Obedience is good. Buncha slugs.

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  28. Yes. Six bathroom houses are more water efficient. Paging Mr. Orwell!

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  29. John Wuo is gone. Nobody batted an eye. Weird.

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    1. Yep. Arcadia Councilman John Wuo has resigned, city officials announced during the council meeting Tuesday.

      http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20151006/arcadia-councilman-john-wuo-resigns-on-heels-of-lawsuit

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  30. Modernization ?
    I don't call it modernization I call it new money and no class .
    Money doesn't buy class .

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  31. What is this use of "modern" about? Fear of the old days? Remember, Adele Chang loves the word. Huh.

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  32. 7:53 I can assure you George Orwell was nor will he ever be required reading .
    I believe He would fall under enemy of the state /banned reading .

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  33. So what was the outcome of the meeting? Are mansions banned now?

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    1. Uh, no.
      One tiny part of Arcadia is trying to save itself, and they have to go up against Ned Beatty in Network:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc

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    2. 4:08 Awesome clip. This is Arcadia. "Multi-variate, multi-national dominion of dollars."

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