Friday, November 13, 2015

Yesterday's Arbolada Inferno: Hell Comes To Your House

Just on the other side of the Peacock Veil yesterday, not all that far from Adele Chang's gated Anokia wonderland on Baldwin, there was a rather nasty looking demo happening. I thought I would give you a little before and after look at what went down.

Literally.

Here is what was to be found at 640 Arbolada Drive up until yesterday.


And this is what happened to it 24 hours ago.


Welcome to a real estate war zone.

We managed to dig up some statistics for you. Just so you have an idea of how the dollars might have played out here. They do tell the tale, you know. They always do.

640 Arbolada Drive was sold for a neat $1,900,000. Which is some fairly high falutin' and fancy spending for what became a close to $2 million dollar tear down. This was a 3,048 square foot one story home on .489 of an acre.

Under the proposed and current rules governing such things in Arcadia right now, here is how things break down. So to speak.

This .489 of an acre demo site equals 21,300.84 square feet. Under the new proposed regulations, the new owners (or developer) would be able to build a two story house of up to 5,600 feet, or one story of sprawling glory up to 5850 feet.

However, under the EXISTING conditions, this potential monument to wretched nouveau riche excess could go as large as 14,000 square feet. You can only imagine what that would sell for when it hits the market.

That is probably what was approved by the City of Arcadia. The plans are likely available from the Planning Department there if anyone in the neighborhood wants to check up on us and see if we are right.

Pretty sure we are.

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41 comments:

  1. If this was Arcadia with its Planning Commission I wonder how big a monstrosity could be built on the Jameson Estate. Thank goodness for Planning Commission and City Council.

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    1. Add thanks to the citizens who fought so tirelessly to get sane rules and regulations in place.
      Arcadia is still wide open to the worst kind of development.

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  2. That is an absolute travesty. A perfectly good home compatible with the neighborhood is bulldozed. Its a crime. The problem in Arcadia is that the developer is rewarded for tearing it down because they are allowed to build a huge McMansion whose square footage enables them to recapture the $1,900.000 that they paid for the home. If the new rules were in place and they could only replace the $3,000 square foot home with a 5,600 square foot home then it would not be profitable to tear it down. That's why the floor area limits are so important. If you have essentially no limits, then it can be profitable for every home to be torn down. Residential neighborhoods are not meant to be just profit centers for developers. But the rules are what they are because developers like Mur-Sol, the Groh family, the Bowdens succeed in getting candidates like Bob Harbicht elected to office who then do the developers' bidding by creating a development free for all. It all comes down to whether the good residents of Arcadia care more about preserving their neighborhoods than the developers care about preserving their profits.

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    1. Travesty, you said it!!!

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  3. Its absolutely insane that then you can buy a perfectly good home for 1.9 million and tear it down. Only because there are virtually no limits on the size of the home that you can replace it with, gives it a chance of being a profitable project. Arcadia is getting ruined house by house.

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  4. Arcadia is looking like Beirut after a bombing run. Not only is that nice house replaced by an ugly McMansion that is out of character for the neighborhood, but the neighbors get to have their views, natural lot and privacy and yes, value, affected by the end result. But lets not also forget that for about a year or so, the neighborhood has to endure the pounding nails and the big trucks and all the other noise and inconvenience associated with one of these projects. One whole year without peace in the neighborhood. It is insane, but what is more insane is that the residents put up with the developers running the show in Arcadia. That's why the rules are so lax and why its a development free for all.

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    1. 500 feet from 210 Frwy, some peace and quiet, I see no problem with this.

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  5. The barbarians are at the gate.

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    1. Oh they passed the gate a decade ago...

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    2. If only they would pick up after themselves.

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  6. This is corruption pure and simple. Employees at Arcadia City Hall are financing their retirements with the development impact fees produced from projects like this. Since the FBI is already in town, can't they please finish the job?

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  7. To save your town the citizens need to get rid of councilmen in the pockets of developers. Or in the pocket of the Police Union! Are you listening Jonny?

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  8. If you notice their is dust flying and no water suppression (by CA law) to be seen so all the people down wind were exposed to contaminated materials used to build this house originally, asbestos, lead based paint and other lead based caulking compound's etc. This just goes to show the average person money can make anything go away and bring back a VERY ugly 2 story house that for all purposes is a MacMansion in a neighbor hood of single story homes once again the city has failed it voting tax paying residents

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    1. Good catch, 7:12.

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    2. Of course they would use drinkable water if they were to actually implement dust control.

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    3. Yep, someone should definitely have called the Air Quality Management District on them THAT day. And if a lead-based paint survey was not conducted prior to demo they are in violation, including through whatever landfill the construction debris went to - I can only guess they didn't default and send all that material to a hazardous waste landfill. Someone should bust their ass.

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    4. Sounds like that old house was a biohazard. Good riddance.

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    5. Yes. Nothing solves problems like a bulldozer. Where is your house again?

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    6. 12:03, a "well maintained home built in 1952" sets off alarms for you, huh?

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    7. 12:03 is a hater.

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    8. Yes, I hate asbestos. And the little troll who threatened me at 12:26.

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    9. Can't we all just get along?

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    10. Got any spare diesel?

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    11. 12:26.. You fork over 1.9 M for my home, I'll pay for the dozer...

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    12. Ok. But you don't get the check until your shanty is razed. Cool?

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    13. viva suburbia!

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  9. A 14,000 S.f. house is a Mansion, not a McMansion.

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    1. Vanity castle.

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    2. 9:23, Nuh-uh. A 14,000 square foot house is the poster child for McMansions.

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    3. Real mansions have at least a little bit of class to them. McMansions are built by unsophisticated idiots

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  10. Notice the chimney is still standing. I wonder if this a teardown or a "remodel".

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  11. That is a very violent picture.

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  12. I marvel at the fact that anyone could approve the demolition of that house in order to accommodate a monument to acquisition.
    I don't know what will be built there, so it's really too early to say, but if it's anything like what has gone up along Orange Grove, it's a pity.

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  13. Ain't no pity. That house was lame. Fake ranch style. Fake shutters that don't function. Water-hogging non-native grass. Turd. Not to say that the next house won't be any better, but that one was not worth saving.

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    1. You think the 6 bathroom 6,000 square foot anality palace that replaces it will be a conservation boon to Arcadia? Blow up, dude.

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    2. What exactly are you trying to conserve? White middle class suburban childhood memories? 'Barbarians at the gate someone' cried earlier?

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    3. Why do you reduce everything to race? Is it because you are a bigot?

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    4. 10:04 is asking the question you are afraid to truly answer.

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    5. No, 10:04 is a bigoted troll who beats upon Arcadia's minority population often.

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  14. Let's face it, there are many homes built in the 40's an 50's that haven't been well maintained, that need electrical work, new plumbing, need a few walls moved to make room for larger kitchens, etc. What most people are upset about in Arcadia is not as much that houses are being torn down, but that the houses that replace them are often 3 times the original size and are not used as single family residences. I understand some buyers want to have multi-generational housing, but above 10,000 or even 8,000 square feet, it's hard to convince any reasonable person that these are meant to be single family residences. With an estimated 10-20% vacancy rate in Arcadia, and high inventory on the market for extended periods, it's surprising that demolition and rebuilds are still so prevalent. Redevelopment is an inevitable part of every community, and instead of aiming to stop it, we should make sure that what's built doesn't negatively impact the balance of the neighborhood. HOA areas of Arcadia have done an outstanding job making sure new homes fit a classic style, but are unable to do much on size because the city has no FAR (Floor Area Ratio).

    Let's grow up here and stop the personal attacks and accusations of racism for people who seek to limit mansion size. The irony is that the pro-developer group forum on a Chinese site is riddled with blatantly racist comments and insults of various groups of people in the community. This ugly behavior needs to stop, let's have a civil conversation and work towards a happy compromise.

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