Monday, December 21, 2015

Mr. Sequitur Gets His Comeuppance

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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana  

Mod: You got to love some of the great exchanges that take place in this blog's comments section. I know I do. And they are one of a couple of reasons why this blog works as well as it does sometimes. Of course, the first reason is I am willing to post something new here everyday. People have gotten used to coming here to see what is up. News coverage isn't what it used to be, mostly because newspapers just don't have the resources to employ a lot of reporters anymore. So somebody has got to try and fill the gap.

But the other reason, and at least equally as important in my opinion, is the comments. Here is where I have been really fortunate with this blog. The people who come here to share their opinions can be, at least sometimes, very informative and even entertaining.

So I thought I'd share a conversation that took place here yesterday. I'm not sure how many people were involved, but there were at least two. In my opinion this exchange pretty much summarizes a lot of what Sierra Madre faces. That being the past misuse of financial resources, and the resulting unhappy consequences today. One of the most unfortunate of those being the Water Department.












Mod: So you'd figure by this point our guy would finally try and deal with the question, right? At least a little bit? Apparently not.


Mod: And that is where the conversation ended. I guess Mr. Sequitur just didn't have an answer for the big question. How can things like water infrastructure be in such bad shape when the residents have dutifully paid good money for decades to keep them in good repair? And why should they continue to pay things like high utility taxes when the results just aren't there?

Avoiding having to answer that question is, of course, completely understandable. So far nobody in a position of authority in this town has done that so far.

It is either the big secret, or something pretty bad.

So where did the money go?

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34 comments:

  1. Perhaps reducing the UUT will force the city to live within its means. They keep asking for money without fixing the problem. Throwing more money at an issue that seems to never be fixed is mindless. What else can citizens do when they have asked to have problems resolved and they have been ignored?

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    1. city can't live within it's means because of the pension system - I'm voting NO until the pension's are in reality

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    2. "So where did the money go?"- asks the Mod and Mr.Sequiter.
      Pensions,benefits and boondoggles.
      But don't blame the City Managers. The real culprits are City Councillors and Mayors.
      Ultimately ,we the electorate did not 'hold their feet to the fire'. Why? Because we were largely kept in the dark about all the theft of money intended for water infrastructure and it's diversion to pensions and benefits.
      So what is the solution?
      First we have to have access to the facts -none of the stonewalling and deceptiveness that Elaine Aguilar has made an art form of.
      Second we need a way to communicate the facts to the under-informed- a decent newspaper would help!
      Then we have a chance of getting greater involvement by more of the residents.
      These three simple ,democratic steps terrify those in power and City Employees.
      Why?

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  2. So no one defined "fair share" in these comments. I guess that means that,if needed, a 100% tax rate can be considered a "fair share" for someone to pay. The UUT tax was originally sold to the citizens as a tax to pay for "safety" services, like police and fire. As noted, many, many times on his blog, what is killing the budget in Sierra Madre (and elsewhere) is the exhorbitant pensions received by these and other city employees and so the city needs to raise the UUT tax to pay for peoples pensions, not to fix any infrastructure. The only way to remedy this is to force the city to make prudent changes in the way they do business, like hiring the Sheriff and outsourcing the library. That way, the City decreases its future pension obligations and they will actually be monies available to fix some of the infrastructure in town. Rule of government: spend more than you have and ask for additional funding with increased taxes. The only way to stop this viscious cycle is to deny the City the money and force them to live within the budget. Vote NO on the UUT. Make the city be fidicuiaryily responsible.

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    1. "Fair share" is whatever the Left says it is. Like "sustainable" and "green". Like "free speech" only if it agrees with the Left.

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  3. Our water problems have been going on for more years than most people here know. The city has never wanted to spend the money over the years to insure we continue to have the great water we use to brag about. Management swept it under the rug and spent the money on other things. Then, when the results of ignoring our water becomes a problem they still want more money to try and fix it. If you want it spelled out or to see a good example just look at what Arcadia has done in the last 10 to 15 years and wonder why Sierra Madre didn't do the same thing. If you don't know the answer you shouldn't be asking for more money, you should be asking WHY and how can we fix it.

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  4. Throwing good money after bad is no solution. We have done it before and nothing improved.

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  5. The reason we are throwing good money after bad is because our management can't look at the problem without looking at their pay checks first. We need better management.

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  6. 5:52, seems to be the way of this town, due to the lack of caring for us residents and not being educated enough to find the right solution, a solution that is right on the tip of our border.

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  7. Another problem that looks like an elephant in the room to me is our Chamber of Commerce. The city continues with it's need for more water and more police because the down town businesses want more people to come and shop. Now, we are paying for a over crowded town with many people clogging the streets and using our precious water so the businesses can sell there merchandise. How much tax money do the businesses bring in, not enough to cover the extra costs, and that is a fact.

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    1. 6:13...you're right, and those damn business owners are always trying to steal my magic beans.
      Just a suggestion, take a few days off from the reefer, drink some orange juice and then maybe a nice nap.

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  8. 11,000 people can not afford the leadership we have been getting over the years because of the in-group's wants and spending habits. It is time to cut the purse strings and start spending wisely. If we cant spend wisely then lets find some management that is more concerned with running the city and spending wisely. It is not that complicated.

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    1. Lack of leadership, you mean.

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  9. 5:42, mostly agree with you but the differences need discussion, and who has time for that?

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  10. Accountability. Crazy concept.

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  11. Late yesterday afternoon, my 3:20 reply was not posted even though subsequent replies were, so I sent another response to the question. It's not posted. Perhaps it should be, if not to clarify the record, at least as thanks for giving you a day off!

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  12. 6:49, you R right. Leadership picks management but the repercussions are great when you pick on someones child. As is being shown with the PD, they have a lot of clout in town, maybe even our poor management is ???? involved or a victim. We don't care it's time to fix the problem.

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  13. Our city governance has turned our prcious city into a THIRD World Country. Sierra Madre has No Well Water in its water wells and city council has informed us that the yellow water which eats holes in our water pipes now has lead in it which the Fedral government states lead is toxic. What a unresolved mess! We need to replace these incompent so called leader with real leadership! Let's Make Siera Madre Great Again!

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    1. I'd settle for a Sierra Madre with decent water. Jeepers.

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    2. Years of neglect lead to this. Where did all that money get spent?

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  14. As one of the unfortunate homeowners who had to have my entire house and garage re-piped due to yellow chorlomine water.....I join you protesters on this issue.
    Say no to these city officials who are misusing our tax dollars.

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  15. MMM the smell of chlorine is back in my water. A simple carbon filter removes chlorine, fluoride and lead.And yes it costs $10. a month or so and yes I've used one for 20 years here.Have you ever been to a 3rd world country? I'd guess not life is good here.
    Infrastructure is crumbling in the entire nation because people won't pay for it. I blame Jesus let's replace him a new prophet

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  16. How good was Sierra Madre's water? I'll tell you. Several years ago, in the early days of "designer" water imported from far off France and the South Pacific, I took my own bottle of water to modern dance classes at UCLA. As you can expect, dancers are quite particular about what they do with their bodies and I was asked where I got such good tasting water. From my kitchen tap! So for the summer I took water from Sierra Madre to UCLA to give to my classmates. That was then. Now we have the same damn water everyone else has to
    choke down via the MWD.

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    1. Keep on dancing bae we will get our water back if we keep trying.

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  17. Please consider this, the direct result of allowing a group of incompetent people in political power with in a local government means your supporting a self serving organization with only one goal in mind, keeping the money coming in while asking for more only to achieve a 2 - 6 percent achievement rate with aforementioned money all the while promising more of better results with of course more money with NO strings attached for performance results.

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  18. A UUT increase was voted down twice. In 2012 and 2014. Trying again for a third time is just nuts. To use the Mayor's word.

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    1. Go for it! hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    2. They're coming to take us away, ha! ha!

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  19. Dear Mr. Mod,
    Any truth to the rumor that the Repeal the UUT paperwork has been filed at City Hall and will also be hand-carried down to LA County Registrar of Voters today! I hope that's true!

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    1. Not the Mod, but I read The TattlerDecember 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM

      This is what Earl's email (printed here) said yesterday:
      " The signed petitions will be delivered to City Hall early Monday morning and Hand Carried and delivered to the Los Angeles Registrars Office in Norwalk."

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    2. Hope Earl has a pic of the delivery to LA County!

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    3. Not sure if Earl is a selfie kind of guy.

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