Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Nearly 60% of Los Angeles-area city workers collected at least $100,000 in total compensation




(Click here for the table of average wages in Los Angeles County cities.)


Click here for median income information.


Transparent California's website is linked here.

Really stupid crooks

Mod: I don't know if you saw this Star News article (link), but you really have to marvel at the idiocy of some folks.


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50 comments:

  1. Heck, the Federal government is in debt to the tune of many trillions of dollars. Why should cities be any different?

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    1. the pension plan and payroll is a debt we can't do anything about other than bankruptcy

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    2. Unlike the Feds, cities can't print their own money.

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    3. bankruptcy does not wipe out the debt for CalPers

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    4. There is no known cure for CalPERS.

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    5. The cure for Calpers is a 20% UUT.

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    6. Part of the Calpers cure is the Sheriff.

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    7. The calpers scalpels.

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    8. can't we simply just terminate the deal with CalPERS?

      are they mobbed up?

      our grand children will be paying the pensions of some of the yokes that are retiring at 50 and living 30 years at full salary for doing absolutely nothing

      ripping off taxpayers - that's what CalPER's does

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  2. how often to the PD departments of Arcadia, Pasadena or the Sheriff's dept call the SMPD for assistance outside of SM?

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    1. Never heard about that happening.

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    2. The neighboring cities never call SMFD for assistance, either. The Fire Fighters' Union doesn't want non-union SM volunteers doing any work.

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  3. I'm all for people getting paid a reasonable amount but this is ridiculous. It used to be that government employees received great job security to offset relatively low pay. But now they get great job security, great pay and great pensions. Ever since Jerry Brown allowed government workers to unionize in the the 1970's, their compensation package has gone up and up and up. This happened because no one listened to the concerns of those great democratic politicians President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and New York Mayor Florella La Guardia who warned us that allowing public sector workers the ability to unionize was much different from allowing private sector workers the ability to unionize. Its because public sector unions have way too much leverage in their compensation negotiations because we depend upon them to provide vital and sometimes life and death services to the residents. In addition, unlike a private sector union that is somewhat constrained in what they can ask for from a private company because if they ask for too much, the company can go bankrupt, there is no such constraint in what the public sector unions can ask for because they can reach into the bottomless pockets of the taxpayers. The power of the public sector unions also translated into extraordinary political power as they pour money into political campaigns and literally elect the very people who will be negotiating their salaries, benefits and pensions. Is it no wonder their compensation has leapfrogged ahead. If the unions achieve a "breakout" in a neighboring city in which some position is paid an extraordinary amount, then all the neighboring cities point to that as the new "going rate" that must be paid if you want to remain "competitive". We have created a monster here in which the public servants have become our masters. The only solution is courageous politicians who are not bought off by the unions and who are willing to stand up to the unions and put forth policies like defined contribution pension plans rather than the defined benefit pension plans we have now which allow any city council to make extravagant promises to pay back their campaign supporters who keep the peace during their tenure in office. Those promises end up being the unfunded pension liabilities that are bankrupting cities all over the country. They are so pernicious because the bad consequences of those promises don't come due until long after the politicians who made the promises are safely out of office. If you want meaningful reform that is one policy that has to be enacted. Otherwise, city government will continue to be like what Jon Coupal said about General Motors which stopped being a car company and became an employee benefits company that built cars on the side.

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    1. Great comments. Thanks!

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  4. I don't know what to say about last night's meeting. If I understand this correctly, I could be wrong, but the same two people who wrote the pro for the ballot on the UUT are writing the con, too? The most enjoyment was when Elaine slapped her hand on the table after being asked why she recommended CC vote yes on something that was obviously a no. Thank you, Denise. And then the CalPERS presentation. Ms. Cox did an excellent job on her presentation. I did learn a few things. PD salaries are what cost the most, it would cost 60,000,000.00 to break the contract, CalPERS does not give audits on time, but are usually 1-2 years behind, CalPERS made poor investments that we have to pay for, and Elaine could be a bobble head doll with the way her head was shaking yes to everything. That's great. We're stuck. According to the Mayor, bankruptcy won't help. And folks, if you vote for the UUT, it will just keep going up and up and up. All I heard last night is what a bang-up job the employees have done with such limited staff! I'm speechless.

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    1. It was a pep rally for the status quo.

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    2. $60 million to break the contract ?
      There is a cheaper and actually moral way out. BK !
      Do we the taxpayers honestly feel committed to pay $60million for a fraudulent contract buy-out?

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    3. Maybe we should offer every employee $400,000.00 to go away.

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    4. From now until the April election city hall will be very cheerful and as helpful as they can be. They know this is their last chance. If the voters say no for a third time things will change radically.

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    5. come on - all we gotta do is stop contributing to CalPERS - just cut them off and they'll sue us - we'll go bankrupt and they get nothing

      when one city stands up to CalPERs and another and another then the ponzi scheme will be treated like the bully it is

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  5. Our city employees do a great job with limited staff, overtime is more cost effective than hiring more personnel, and costs will go up and up. We are the fools that overcommitted ourselves can't blame the employees for expecting us to honor our commitments.

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    1. I respectfully disagree. From my experience over many years here, City Employees do a barely adequate job at a slow pace and with as much overtime as they can contrive. The City Manager turns the other way when any examples of misbehavior,fraud,cheating is given her. They are just as bad as their leadership .Yes, there are a few exceptions and I know them by name.

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    2. Do we have any Muslim employees? Let's just blame them for our stupidity.

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  6. monrovia called SMPD just the other night, search on twitter.

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    1. Monrovia tweeted the SMPD?

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    2. Star-News said the Monrovia High School arson fire was assisted by Arcadia & San Marino. Sierra Madre Fire was not mentioned.

      My fav for not calling Sierra Madre Fire was when Pasadena Fire had other depts. assist when Hastings Laundry burned at the corner of Michilinda and SM Blvd. SM Fire wasn't called and it was a few blocks away.

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    3. They wanted to see if SMPD had any left over donuts. Out of luck though, they were handed over to the Detectives Bureau.

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  7. City hall has $24 million dollars + to spend each year, where is the money going and why? Just +7 years ago city hall had $7 million a year to spend, now it's $24 million. What a raise in monies over such a short period of time.

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  8. Why does CalPERS have so much power?

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    1. Outsource the PD, Paramedics and Library and there will be less than 30 employees on CalPERS. MUCH less power for CalPERS then.

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  9. This is only half the story. For a real horror show look what the school district(s) are doing to us. How did city/school employees get so much power?

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    1. We gave it to them anon@9:25 not like they stole it.

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    2. How many people vote in Board of Ed elections again? Like 30?

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  10. 9:25: They got so much power because we allowed it. Case in point, the PUSD teacher's union hand picked Larry Torres for PUSD board, and had multiple unions donate to his campaign. This is how they roll. Larry is carrying the water for their benefits and pensions.

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    1. The PUSD teacher's union had a clean sweep in the last BOE elections. And now those new members are deciding on teacher pay raises. There was a big demonstration at a recent Board of Ed meeting. Surprised?

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    2. nope, I'm not

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  11. It's not all our fault. I would say 50% belongs to previous CC. One would expect that they keep us honestly informed. They don't. Again there are many people in town who don't care, don't know, etc. The CC is aware of this apathy and they count on it. That's how things they want get passed. I don't know how to reach uncaring people. It's not PC to shame and shun. The PD alone is not a full service unit. They don't have a jail, a bomb squad, don't write their own parking tickets, don't bill for them, sue us and them promote a ballot measure that one of the suers proposed. Isn't that special! CC should farm out to the Sheriff before the end of the year.

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    1. So much misinformation on this blog and so little time to correct. Crawford gives the facts, then the bloggers say what they think he says.

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    2. Not big on the Sheriffs, eh? Guess you dont like getting your money's worth. Let me ask this, comment critic. How many out of town PDs came to Sierra Madre to assist in the arrests written about below?

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    3. I don't care one way or another whether the locals or the sheriff dept. comes to town, only what is best for the city. However, it would be great if some bloggers would check out what they say instead of just spouting off against city hall or council member, or whatever. BTW, I grew up in Altadena which has the Sheriff's Department and they are great.

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    4. It's a blog, dude. Spouting is permitted.

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    5. Anon @ 10:09 I believe we also voted the last CC members into office, as we have for 100 years almost. You are a big part of this "apathy" as most of us are.You are also wrong to think persons not of the same mind as you are "uncaring" You sound like a republican presidential candidate

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    6. There is a difference between being uncaring and not caring. I'm sure of it.

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  12. The biggest burden on our Calpers is the police. What more do we need to know to switch to the sheriff?

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    1. People are ruled by their emotions. A lot of people are attached to their local police department.

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  13. From the city's press release"
    "Police units from Arcadia and Monrovia Police Departments arrived to assist Sierra Madre’s units. Another alert citizen spotted one suspect hiding in her side yard and called the police department. The suspect was taken into custody. The third suspect had taken refuge on the roof of the Bean Town Coffee House and when the assisting units arrived, jumped off the roof in an attempt to flee the area. He was quickly taken into custody after fracturing his leg from the fall."

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  15. I think we can all agree with 2:07

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  16. Are we getting robbed again?

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  17. sign the UUT tax petition. Who do we call. I am willing to gather signatures!

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