Wednesday, February 10, 2016

A Really Confusing Thing We Heard Again Last Night About The Police Staffing Crisis

"Seinfeld once said that due to turnover on sports teams people are really rooting for the uniforms. That's just like people who love the SMPD. They love the uniforms, not the chubby little bellies that fill them! Maybe we can convince the sheriff to wear dark blue team colors so that we can convince SMPD's fanboys and girls that it makes sense to get 20% more patrol hours for $800k less a year." - Early reader comment

We heard a whole lot last night from Chief Giannone and others about how the City of Sierra Madre has adequate 24 hour/7 days a week Police Department coverage. This despite the fact that half the department has left and, according to the Chief, more cop desertions are on the way. So if this is all true, and everything is just quacky ducky, why did City Hall put out this following scary notice in late January?


"Staffing levels within the Sierra Madre Police Department (SMPD) have reached a level where there are insufficient personnel to provide safe and reliable police services twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week."

Quite a radical message swing from El Jefe. Get too close to this stuff and you could get whiplash.

Not only did City Hall create the January notice, they also placed it in The Mountain Views News, SierraMadreNews.net and Pasadena Now. It is hard to figure out what is actually true here. Is there adequate policing in Sierra Madre or not? I guess it depends on what week it is, and which public relations message they believe is working best for them at the moment.

It must also be noted that the above press release has been pulled from the City of Sierra Madre site.  Orwell style, like it never even happened. But some of the info sources that published it as news items at the City's request still have it up on their sites. One being the Mountain Views News. Here is what that looks like.


Last night Chief Giannone said even more officers are leaving, yet everything is under control and everyone should be happy and grateful for all the fine work they're doing. However, and given what the city said just a few weeks ago, why would anyone believe that? With more SMPD officers beating feet, how are things getting better?

Carol wanted to know what's up.
Three supporters of the vanishing cops came to the podium last night and proclaimed their love of the Sierra Madre Police Department. Yet when you consider half of that department has already left, and more will be leaving soon, do you really think the SMPD is showing any sweetness back? Seems like a one-sided love.

The opposition to bringing the Los Angeles Sheriffs Department to Sierra Madre is not only bizarre and delusional, it's also dangerous. Those claiming to love Sierra Madre more than the rest of us, along with certain elected officials, could end up being enablers for one of the worst ideas ever. That is, gambling with public safety in order to get City Hall its tax hike.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt.

Steve Salisian's Illegal Structure Gets Crushed
Watching Bob Spears read off a strangely disingenuous John Harabedian last night over his double-talking up an illegal and very possibly dangerous structure was the highlight of the evening. It also makes you wonder why kind of guardian of the General Plan the pettifogging Councilmember Harabedian is going to be in his second term.

A few years back Kurt Zimmerman could be heard referring to John Harabedian as "Joe Mosca with brains." Time has shown that to be an accurate assessment.

In the end things turned out well. Preserve Sierra Madre put out the following statement late last night:

Dear Supporters: We brought to your attention a few days ago our concerns about an illegal 2-story 1322 square foot structure that was recently built at 156 W. Highland without architectural plans, engineering specifications, licensed tradesman, building permits, notice to the public or any approval or oversight whatsoever.           

The applicant, Mr. Salisian, originally intended it to be a dwelling unit with a kitchen and two bathrooms.  Only after it was discovered by the City after a citizen's complaint, was the use changed to a "recreation and exercise" building.

The Planning Commission rejected the after-the-fact CUP that the applicant was seeking which caused the applicant to appeal that denial to the City Council. City Staff recommended that the City Council support the Planning Commission's decision and deny the CUP as well.  

We are happy to report that the City Council denied the CUP at tonight's meeting.  Council members Capoccia and Delmar had to recuse themselves because they lived too close to the applicant's property.  Council Members Goss and Arizmendi voted to deny the CUP.  Council Member Harabedian was the sole vote in favor of granting the CUP to Mr. Salisian.

Preserve Sierra Madre is grateful to Council Members Goss and Arizmendi for their own judgment in this matter as well as giving due deference to our experts on the Planning Commission and due deference to the rule of law.  A powerful message has been sent that Sierra Madre's General Plan and Municipal Code exist to be followed and not flouted. These rules and regulations exist for many reasons, not the least of which, is to insure the health and safety of those who will be inhabiting the structure - namely the applicant himself.

We are also grateful to Planning Commissioner Spears who attended the City Council meeting and provided insight into the reasons for the Planning Commission's denial.

Let us be clear, we are not happy because the applicant is now facing a consequence for his actions.  We are happy because the importance of our General Plan and Municipal Code have been affirmed by the highest governing body in the City of Sierra Madre. That is why we are pleased with tonight's decision and grateful for the result.

A Better Tax Show
The "Stop the UUT" people haven't been showing up at the meetings. And from my perspective that is disappointing. Watching Earl Richey and John Capoccia going at it tooth and nail would be marvelous entertainment. Kind of like a Lucha Libre match without the cool masks. Think of the videos we could make.

Hopefully we will get to see some of that soon.

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120 comments:

  1. Capoccia and Harabedian were way out of line. You had to be there to hear both of these little dictators. Both are running unopposed. Go figure! I say we write in a candidate.

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  2. Once again truth was in very short supply at a Sierra Madre City Council meeting.

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    1. lawyers are generally a waste of time

      lawyers on the Council are counter productive and argue just to argue

      blah blah blah I'm a lawyer blah blah blah

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  3. Capoccia's comically chaotic plan to save SMPD by outsourcing its night time shifts has been a huge success!

    It has led to a front page Star News article stating that SMPD is 50% short staffed and will not be fully staffed until March 2017. It has also led to a Star News editorial urging the city to contract with the sheriff. And it has caused such a crisis of confidence that the Chief has had to publicly pull an Emily Litella - you know, "Never mind."

    Good work mayor exploding cigar!

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  4. Who are these peopleFebruary 10, 2016 at 5:20 AM

    Seinfeld once said that due to turnover on sports teams people are really rooting for the uniforms. That's just like people who love SMPD. They love the uniforms, not the chubby little bellies that fill them!

    Maybe we can convince the sheriff to wear dark blue team colors so that we can convince SMPD's fanboys and girls that it makes sense to get 20% more patrol hours for $800k less a year.

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    1. Maybe the Sheriffs could wear Sierra Madre PD uniforms.

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    2. They would need a tailor to take them in and a dry cleaner to get the donut stains out.

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    3. I'm sure the SMPD could recommend a good clothes leaner.

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  5. Capoccia is nothing more than bluster and bunkum.

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  6. I thought it was pathetic that no one showed for the STOP the UUT last night. I support putting this on the ballot (much sooner rather than much later) and letting the people have a vote, but you look politically amateurish and insensible by not even carving out a few hours on a Tuesday night to actually be there in person and lodge a public comment.

    A true disappointment.

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    1. then why were you not there 5:52

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    2. I never said I support the proposition. I simply support putting this on the ballot soon and not in 2018. And I live streamed it from home, so I was watching.

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    3. We all know you are the one who wrote the petition and don't even live in our city!

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    4. 12:33 - how soon after your wife leaves for work do you start drinking?

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  7. What was up with Harabedian last night and the whole Salisian affair. He seemed to be in this guys corner from the outset. After what he did with Felikian, it looks like Harabedian was doing the same thing with Salisian.

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    1. People predicted how Harabedian would vote on this and sure enough, he tried to speak first and influence everybody else to make a special deal with Salisian. We saw corruption last night. Very disappointing night for those who held out hope that Harabedian was an honest politician.

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    2. After Harabedian carved out that special category in the Floor Area limits allowing the Felikians to gain an additional 500 square feet of floor area, he meets with Salisian too and then tries to get their illegal project approved. I hate to say the obvious, but do non-Armenians get this kind of special treatment too?

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    3. Credit needs to be given to Goss and Arizmendi who didn't buy into Harabedian's naked attempt to influence the outcome. Harabedian always tries to speak first to influence the discussion. He failed miserably and showed his true colors last night.

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    4. Is it too late to have someone file papers and run against Harabedian? He is bad news.

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    5. Give credit to Goss and Arizmendi who listened to the Planning Commission and City Staff.

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    6. Can we get a challenger to Harabedian? He is corrupt. Is it too late?

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    7. ...ian. say no more.

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    8. I am so proud of Goss and Arizmendi, especially Goss, who seemed to have thought for himself this time (I'm always proud of Arizmendi). I am so disappointed in Harabedian, who argued with Bob Spears - saying that an inspection could be done on the illegal building after the fact. Bob Spears asked how that could possibly be accomplished.

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    9. Harabedian is all about the politician's quid pro quo. Let's not forget how many different times he tried to place his buddy Dave Loera, his childhood firiend and campaign helper, onto different city commissions. Lucky for us, Harabedian failed in all those attempts.

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    10. Harabedian may be good at making fictional arguments as many lawyers do, but he knows nothing about corruption. Yet, he cavalierly dismissed what Bob Spears had to say. I'm embarrassed for him that he would listen to that entire Planning Commission meeting where Mr. Salisian told lie after lie, and then decide he's going to go to bat for that guy. That tells you all you want to know about his character.

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    11. Gene has finally come into his own. Rochelle too was great. I suspect that if Capoccia and Delmar hadn't have been asked to sit out, it would have been 4-1 against Harabedian. So you had the Planning Commission, the City Staff, and most likely 4 of the other City Council Candidates had they all been allowed to vote and a few speakers at the meeting other than that one developer from Pasadena who appeared out of the woodwork. What does that tell you about Harabedian? It may be one thing if Harabedian hadn't seen the Planning Commission meeting, but he said he saw it, saw all the lying, saw all the problems with the construction, and yet he still voted in favor of Salisian even though he was warned by Bob Spears that the structure may be a threat to public safety and it may get the city into a lawsuit and it will set a bad precedent and send the wrong message to others who want to violate all of our rules and regulations. Go figure.

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    12. Everything can be lost with one bad election.

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    13. Great letter from Preserve Sierra Madre. Those folks are doing some great work.

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  8. Harabedian wondered why the immediate neighbors didn't show up to complain about that 2-story building. It doesn't surprise me. They have to live next door to that family for the rest of their lives. No matter who they feel, do they want to show up and oppose what happened and create a permanent rift with the salisians. Or course not. Its really for the City Council to perform their duties.

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    1. So, what was the action item directive? Is the wrecking ball scheduled yet? I want to bring my chips and dip and sit on the grass slope across the street and cheer while the thing comes down!!!

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    2. Its very hard for the immediate neighbors to complain. That's why the bodies that are supposed to enforce the rules need to do so to keep the peace.

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    3. People want to be nice. They end up being walked all over. Sometimes by people who have special connections at City Hall.

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    4. The neighbors are stuck living next door to the Salisians. They probably stayed home because they didn't want to start a feud with them, but had confidence that the City Council would do its job. Evidently not at least for one councilman.

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  9. Harabedian admitted that he met with the Salisians. I wonder how much that influenced him. He seemed determined to throw out the General Plan and Muncipal Code to help the Salisians. I wonder why he was so determined? It smacks of cronyism, corruption, favortism and yes, tribalism.

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    1. "joe Mosca with brains" is an apt description for Harabedian. But he not as smart as he think s evidently because nobody bought into his bull#$%&

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    2. People pay hundreds of dollars an hour for that kind of babble.

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    3. First, its doing a favor for a friend at the expense of the community and then morphs into accepting money to vote a certain way. I used to support John Harabedian but after watching the meeting last night, I lost all respect for him. Goss really tried to make the right call. In the end he put the good of the community and respect for its laws first.

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    4. I voted for John Harabedian the first time. I wish I could get my vote back. Never again. You can see what he was trying to do.

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    5. Harabedian was so dead set on help his friend Salisian that he even ignored Bob Spears's point that the city could incur liability if they approved this potentially dangerous structure built without permits or review. Harabedian was willing to risk a lawsuit. Disgraceful.

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    6. Please don't worry about how easy it is to corrupt Harabedian.
      It only happens if the 'influence ' has a family name ending in ...ian.
      Please tell me this bigotry is un-American.
      You would have thought that after the Felikian matter he would have been more circumspect ?
      Harabedian does not care.He is blatant about this. Waving his middle finger at anyone not of his ethnic origin.
      And this nepotist represents Sierra Madre? Shameful.
      Thank goodness for the Planning Commission.

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    7. And thank goodness for Goss and Arizmendi who stood up to that nonsense.

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    8. Harabedian was bobbing and weaving trying to get the CUP approved, then when that wasn't going to happen, trying to get it remanded back to the Planning Commission and that failed too. I'm not sure if I would want to hire him as my lawyer. He's not persuasive and lacks character.

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  10. Thank goodness Bob Spears showed up to challenge Harabedian and really put him in his place. Harabedian was going against the recommendation of the Planning Commission and City Staff to favor the Salisian who he admitted he met with.

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    1. We do have a great Planning Commission. I remember Desai being challenged by Harabedian about the R-! recommendations and Desai put him in his place and now Spears did the same thing.

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    2. Harabedian is dangerous because he doesn't listen to the experts. He has the presumption to believe that he knows better than our Planning Commission and City Staff.

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    3. 6:47, it's the low rent lawyer in him

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    4. There is no way Steve Salisian did not know the building process. His father is a building contractor in Arcadia with his home address listed as his business address. Also, why do we not see or hear from the brother who supposedly lives on the property with his family? He must be a worse liar or even more stupid than his brother. I cannot imagine someone stumbling around more than Steve, it's scary that crooks like this are among us.

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    5. Has Steve Salesian contributed to the "Re elect Harabedian" fund?

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    6. I know thatthe ruling has to be based on the merits of the project but something doesn't sit well when an applicant, not only violates all the rules, but then, when caught, proceeds to lie about it repeatedly to the Planning Commission and now the City Council. How can they say they have this urgent need for a rec room when it was originally built as an extra rental unit. As Gina pointed out, they made up the urgent need out of whole cloth to try to get this thing approved. What does it say about Harabedian that everyone saw through this farce except for him? What's worse though is that he did see through it but felt that tribalism was more important than the community. He basically thumbed his nose at every member of the Planning Commission.

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    7. In my opinion, Johnny Harabedian made the politically expedient move. He makes himself look like a nice guy to Salesian and the builder / landlord crowd by voting YES on a vote Harabedian knew would fail.

      Politics 101 "I tried to help you"

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    8. I wish someone would run against Harabedian. He deserves to lose this election. Let him have the votes of Felikian and Salisian. He's lost alot more than he gained.

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    9. The only problem for him 8:51 is that everyone saw right through him last night. As he admitted, he met with Salisian and came to the meeting prepared to grant the CUP and convince the others to do so. I can't say enough about what Gene and Rochelle did last night. They completely ignored John's bogus arguments. Bob Spears also let everybody know how far John had to stretch in order to support the Salisians. He looked very bad.

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    10. 8:51, sort of a slime ball move if you ask me.

      he's supposed to be voting for the residents, not kissing somebody's rear end so he'll look good

      what do we expect from a lawyer who openly flaunted violating campaign rules as if they don't apply to him

      he's a user

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    11. Harabedian has the "what's in it for me" approach

      how he has any support or respect is beyond me

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    12. I think if a candidate ran against him, Harabedian would lose. People have seen his true colors time after time. Why should this move surprise any body. But I guess it didn't because it was predicted on this blog what he would do and sure enough he tried to do it....again.

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    13. The first mistake Salisian made was building the illegal structure. The second mistake was lying about it. The third mistake was Salisian trusting Harabedian to carry his water. Sorry Johnnie.

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  11. The General Plan is only as good as the City Council that backs it. Anyone who thinks they can slip into a comfortable complacency needs to wake up.

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    1. That's why people like Harabedian need to be kept off the City Council. Every good citizen of Sierra Madre should watch last night's meeting and Harabedian's naked attempt to help the Salisians. It was pre-planned and ready to go. Fortunately, he got shut down and embarrassed to boot.

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    2. We need good people on the City Council who will support the hard-fought provisions in the General Plan and Municipal Code. They can't go off on their own and carve out exceptions for their buddies. That's a very slippery slope. If you get a majority like that on the City Council, don't be surprised if you see the Bell-like corruption coming to Sierra Madre. It starts with one bad apple.

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    3. gotta stop electing lawyers to the Council

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    4. Need someone to run against Harabedian.

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  12. I've over-beaten this drum here already, but the first public commenter last night asked, if we raise the UUT to 10%, "will that save us?" Then came the weird part, as the council collectively stammered, and the commenter kept interrupting and changing the subject as though she didn't even want the real answer. And she never got one. The mayor doesn't believe 10% will cover deficits for long (he has said this), and there is a group in town who wants to oversimplify the problem to make themselves feel better, i.e., one admission price saves police, fire, library, code enforcement, etc. I hope the "educational" materials the city plans to distribute re the UUT include an analysis of how long they project they can operate on 10% before they go back into our pockets for more. Wouldn't it be smarter to look into why there's a need to increase a tax that was supposed to sunset?

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    1. Prudent development of the unused land at the Monastery will save us.

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    2. Platinum pensions for a declining SMPD hang in the balance.

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    3. Great comment 7:45.

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    4. 7:45 hit it on the head. I can tell you just as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow that expenses will rise to meet whatever income is available and, as has been proven time and time again, will exceed the income. We will be right back in the same position again a year or two down the road because its never enough. As soon as we have some cash, the public employee unions have their hand out. Who are we kidding here?

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  13. I assumed Harabedian was an upfront kind of guy. After seeing him in action last night I have come to the realization that he is a corrupt bigot,and probably a racist,in if for his own benefit. What a jerk and a dangerous one at that. I have lost respect for his entire family.
    I'm writing in Trump on the ballot who is also an idiot.

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    1. It was literally predicted what Harabedian would do in regards to Salisian because of what he did with Felikian. He is supposed to represent all of Sierra Madre and not just one ethnicity. Despicable. When he came to that meeting with Felidian and handed out that piece of paper with the new category for lot owners of over 30,000 square feet, he changed the entire rules of the city to benefit one person - Gina Felikian. That's not how things are supposed to work. He needs to put the good of the entire community above personal friends.

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    2. they are trahsy people

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    3. People should watch last night's meeting and see how sleezy Harabedian acted. He was on a mission to help Salisian and failed completely.

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  14. The "sky is falling" narrative was put out to silence those opposed to tax hikes and ensure the tax passes. When that message, instead, increased the number of those supporting outsourcing (ending the gravy train for good) it became politically expedient to abandon that message and replace it with the exact opposite: "everything is fine, don't do anything drastic."

    It's only confusing if one naively believes the people in government are not motivated by self-interest but, instead, are selfless actors who both have the knowledge and character to only do what is in the "public interest."

    To say it out-loud is to refute it.

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    1. hence the exploding cigar!

      you guys give the mayor too much credit. be confident in confronting his nonsense.

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  15. The UUT increase is a CalPERS tax. It will fix nothing.

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    1. We committed to calpers years ago stop grumbling and live up to your commitments. We signed a contract unfortunately. The calpers tax will as you call it will help us live up to our legal commitments if nothing else.

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    2. You missed the point. The city is working hard to make you believe that the UUT increase goes to the Library and to repair water infrastrure. It does not. It goes to pay down millions in CalPERS obligations. Go get your reading comprehension checked, dodo.

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    3. 8:35, if you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!.

      Eliminating CalPERS positions by outsourcing or using LA Sheriff (whose pension plan is better funded and less likely to have big $$ additional assessments like CalPERS) stops digging the hole the taxpayers of Sierra Madre find themselves in.

      It's that simple. Not the "we signed a contract" sound bite.

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    4. I want my full service city, let me pay 15% UUT!

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    5. Sadly, even 15% would be insufficient.It is a Ponzi scheme.It needs endless new money to survive.And the longer it survives ,the greater the misery and damage.
      Pull the plug now !

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    6. Ok you all just rub each others bellies,only one mind here that's why The Tattler is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

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    7. Teehee. You keep telling yourself that.

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    8. Either that or a lot of people are pissed off about the city wasting a boatload of money AND not fixing the problems. Wise up.

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    9. 9:19A It's not becoming irrelevant. It's people like you who come in to insult. You offer no dialogue much less an opinion. You're the kind that creates the mess we're in.

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  16. Harabedian, Goss and Capoccia will sell this city out to development once the election is over. Count on it.

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    1. Count the votes for their recall also?

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    2. duh....

      they were endorsed by the same former Council members who did the same thing

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    3. Goss may surprise people. That was the first time I saw him go against Harabedian. I have renewed respect for Gene. Rochelle was in top form once again. She didn't buy any of what John was saying.

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    4. Harabedian was rocking a new haircut last night. Kind of an Elvis vibe.

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    5. looked pimpin'

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  17. The way things are being run is putting us in the poor house, oh the water.

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  18. wait what? first the Chief says and goes to Arcadia because we are half staffed and now he can staff 24/7?

    how much of this is overtime?

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  19. How about the point well statdd by the mayor and council. We got a water problem. We have no water. We have the opportunity to borrow $6.5 to $8 million dollars from San Gabriel municapsl Water, to drill a water well in the Arcadia City Library parking lot and then run a water pipeline up Santa Anita to Sierra spreading grounds. A loot of big talk going around. Maybe the cost can be paid by Calpers

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  20. So will the structure on West Highland have to come down? I would think if it's permitted it will have to come down. Any thoughts on this or was it decided last night what would happen?

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    1. The owner still has some options. But it will be more expensive and he has no credibility left at all. It will be tough to sell a new project.

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  21. I saw Elaine last night. She was driving a 2016 red Mercedes convertible. Her (convertible!) top was off. She told me she was feeling frisky and just had to have it.

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    1. Was she listening to the dub a dub version of Ranking Dread's "Fatty Boom Boom?"

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    2. I found Die Antwoord's version, but there's a Ranking Dead cover?

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4ic9AXWzE

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    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sALKiUXBeU

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  22. HERES A SoLuTiOn. 1) thee UUT tax sunsets in 36 months 2) all UUT tax monies at $2.5 nillon a year are collected and put in an escrow fund 2) SMPD is terminated ASAP and dherifs are hired, the $1 million dollar savings is collected and put in an escrow account 3) the library is closed, subcontracted out to the quicklys and the saving of $1 million a year is put in an escrow account. 4) over 36 months that $13 MILLION CASH in the bank which will be used to purchase the new Sierra Madre Well to be drilled and located in Arcadia librays parking lot. 5) we further replace the city Mgr - assistant city Mgr - the city attorney for an additional savings of $900,000 s year we hire one person acting the city Mgr/ city attorney for $500,000 a year. To include an assistant. That's an additional $400k savings each year. 6) all other service such as paramedics and firedept rremain the same. 7) we as a city can not remain on a path to bk. That's were our city council and staff continues to take us. 8) thank God for taxpayers, the tattler, the media and the TEAPAC. They are helping us open our eyes. Which require a better management decission. 9) our city has a management problem, a spending problem, a calpers / Pension problem which must be corrected.

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  23. 10) continued... We need to look at the library as a YMCA or health spa. If you want to be a remember, please join and pay monthly dues. OR please use any other public library near by. Due to the internet, the library's have become dinosaurs
    ! Let's make America Great Again starting with Sierra Madre!

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  25. Mr mayor, we do not need any more long term 30 yrar debt mortgages. We have the cash, or can save $13 million dollars over 36 months. At that point we are cash buyers. Why didn't you think of that. These are excellent posts, let's move forward.

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  26. At last, a presidential candidate we can believe in.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/vermin-supreme-places-4th-in-nh-primary/

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  27. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Listening to Harabedian and Capoccia last night, I came away with a "I, me" mentality. Harabedian said over and over what he did not agree with, favor, etc. Doesn't he or isn't he supposed to represent the "we." Capoccia did the same thing. He name-called over 300 citizens because he doesn't agree with their point of view. Just like he called all Tattler readers nut jobs. He talks about what people tell him and the e-mails he gets but he never shows proof. I wouldn't want to be Mr. Richey's and be insulted because I didn't agree with him. This isn't the first time he's called out a citizen, in public, in a very insulting way. We don't all have to have the same ideas but there should be a modicum of respect from an elected official. These two men are unbelievable. Can't really ask an attorney to have ethics when laws have been violated. The man Harabedian was backing lied to everyone. But Harabedian feels that if this man is made responsible it would be punitive. He even had the gall to call out a PC commissioner. He thinks because you tear out a portion of a wall that you can tell that all of the electricity is good, or that the foundation is correct? He was saddened to see that no neighbor's he spoke to showed up. What an idiot. They have to live next to this guy. I am sickened by the whole thing. I now know I can break the law and Harabedian will support me. I now know that if I disagree with the mayor, I will be embarrassed and belittled and called names. So much for wanting to do anything in this city.

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    1. There are over 100 posts here today many of which accuse Harabedian of multiple ethics violations.The evidence cited is Public Record.
      An honorable person would defend themselves against such slurs. So how about it Mr.Harabedian ?
      Cappocia's dismissal of Tattler readers/posters as being nuts is a similar childish refusal to address the accusations and face the truth.
      IMHO Tattler does more for the benefit of ALL Sierra Madre citizens than either Harabedian or Capoccia.

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    2. Harabedian photoshopped our police patches and used an implied endorsement of the SMPD when he as a "lawyer" was fully aware that he was skirting around campaign laws or rules and did it anyway just to get elected - why?

      don't trust the guy anymore and he's another John Buchanan as far as I'm concerned

      no use for him or what he believes, he's all about himself - not good for the city

      we have to watch him closely and not be afraid to put him and Cappocia in their egotistical overblown unjustified ego in check

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    3. I'd like to know when Harabedian met with the applicant and for how long and what was said. Something very strange happened that caused Harabedian do behave almost like a lawyer being an advocate for his client Salisian. To continue with the analogy, his client should be all the citizens of Sierra Madre.

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    4. Its very bad for the town when City Council Members try to dispense favors for their friends. This was so obvious, it was almost comical. I'm glad that Goss and Arizmendi saw right through it and stuck to their guns. It was a fine moment for both of them.

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  28. 1.43 great post

    its all about the money and the greed

    if i remember correctly, an older guy spoke at the city council mic and asked city council several times why we could not acquire a few residential lots on orange grove, adjacent to Arcadia's fire dept and drill a new sierra madre water well.

    the answer was that city hall had no money?

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  29. It's all about the money and greed? Where does the greed come in when the city is trying to find a water source? Look at the price of land on Orange Grove next to the fire station and tell me where the City of Sierra Madre could come up with that kind of money? Even IF the city of Arcadia would let them put in a well there.

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    1. The city spends most of its money on employees. Infrastructure here was allowed to crumble into a state of near uselessness. And even if utility taxes to go to 10% none of it will go to buy things like water wells. Most of it will be sent to CalPERS. The city needs to tell the truth for a change.

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    2. Telling the truth would represent a major culture change for city hall.

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    3. Council Member Harabedian needs to address these concerns. He needs to release a statement explaining the nature of his relationship with Mr Salisian.

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    4. If he had any guts he would respond. I remember when Alan Graves got on the Tattler and defended himself. Granted he took some hits but I did admire his courage.

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    5. 6:48. One of the prime rules of politics: never apologize, never explain.

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  30. If the chief of police for Sierra Madre would resign then it would be a slam dunk.

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  31. I heard Glendora, California has placed a bounty of $2000 per head for new police officers?

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