Wednesday, February 3, 2016

Arcadia's City Council Unanimously Votes Down Sierra Madre's Request For Policing Assistance

Hat in hand.


As predicted a couple of times here on The Tattler, the City of Arcadia has no extra police to spare for patrolling the now defenseless late night streets of Sierra Madre. And because of that last night the Arcadia City Council unanimously voted down City Hall's  request for help with its policing problem.

Of course, if you are a reader of this blog you knew this result was a clear possibility. Here is how we shared our special insight with you yesterday.


Far be it from us to say we told you so, but we did. If City Hall would just listen once in a while to what we lay down here, and as a free service no less, they could have spared themselves a lot of embarrassment last night.

While City Manager Elaine Aguilar and Chief Larry Giannone were in the house with him, Mayor John Capoccia did all of the talking. Predictably he blamed the sunsetting of the UUT (which at one time he advocated) and resulting low pay for the loss of half of Sierra Madre's cops. Which, at least to me, makes no sense. After all, the pay City Hall offers its police officers now is pretty much the same as it was when the UUT was at 10% and hadn't been voted down yet.

Was there an SMPD pay hike in the works if Measure UUT had passed in 2014?

Ordinarily I am not a big advocate for Councilmember Roger Chandler due to his inability to understand the destruction mansionization has brought to much of Arcadia, but he did bring the elephant out into the open last night with this following question.

"Why," he asked, "are you coming to us with this request? Why haven't you gone to the Sheriffs? They're right down the hill."

Under additional questioning about Sierra Madre's puzzling refusal to work with the Sheriffs from other equally incredulous Arcadia Councilmembers, Mayor Capoccia tried to explain that somehow the political situation in Sierra Madre makes that impossible. Capoccia even cited the opinions of that bonkers public safety committee Glenn Lambdin heads up as proof of how difficult hiring the LASD would be for him.

All of which Roger Chandler then pronounced to be completely irrelevant. He then actually offered Capoccia the phone number of the Sheriff's Department. Right there on live TV. Just in case he didn't have it.

Unless Capoccia is looking forward to experiencing equally uncomfortable and futile evenings begging for policing help from Pasadena and Monrovia, he probably should have accepted Chandler's offer.

Now that Arcadia has shot him down, John Capoccia no longer has any other real options left. It's the Sheriffs or nothing. No matter how concerned he is about the dotty old dears that send him e-mails proclaiming their love for the Sierra Madre Police Department.

You know, the Police Department that has now deserted them?

And yes, this was an embarrassing night for Sierra Madre. Our city officials should have known better.

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108 comments:

  1. I should've run for office...

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    1. jeez, the Mayor sort of came across like a doofus.

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    2. The answer to the problem — to both problems — more than ever would seem to be moving rather quickly toward contracting with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department in order to protect the people and property of Sierra Madre and their taxpayer dollars.

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    3. The city's big push and scare tactic got out of hand, and blew up in their faces. Its all about a HARD PLAY FOR MORE MONEY AND THE UUT passing. This should be no surprise but I think it back-fired!!!

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  2. Ouch! Well, it was good for the "leadership" of Sierra Madre to get a taste of the real world that lies beyond our town limits. Let's hope that they have enough good sense to place a call to the Sheriff's dept. this morning. Hiring the Sheriff will fix the manpower problem AND save the city money.

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  3. Does the troika in your picture inspire confidence?

    How do you think they plan to spend the 66% uut increase?

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  4. 5:02?
    Love your comment.You sound like Martin Armstrong.

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  5. I am mad as h..l! The city staff, police chief, and the city council have used the citizens of this town all for their political gain. City Hall's top priority, to hear them drone on and on, is Public Safety.( Yes, they even created a special commission led by Giannone). Yet, when a true public safety issue arises, that of making certain the citizens are provided enough police on the streets, well, they fiddled and delayed just so they could make it a political issue to increase the UUT by 66%. It shows that they truly care nothing for the citizens' safety and care a whole lot more about getting more of our money and them keeping their power. Shame on them for putting citizen safety in jeopardy for their political gain!

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    1. gotta protect and serve the pension plans first

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  6. How did you get that picture? Too funny! Capoccia said the people here were 20-1 against the Sheriff? There are no words to describe this debacle.

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    1. just making up stuff

      he was embarrassing to himself and the residents

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    2. That picture is not a good look for this city.

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  7. What an embarrassment for Sierra Madre. All because some idiots have a bug up their butts about the Sheriff. Obviously Mayor Capoccia only cares about the opinions of a few people in town.

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    1. he's another Susan Henderson - just make up facts and puke them out

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  8. troika has been widely used in Greece and Cyprus (Greek: τρόικα), Ireland, Portugal and Spain to refer to the presence of the European Commission, European Central Bank, and International Monetary Fund in these countries since 2010 and the financial measures that these institutions have taken.

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  9. The Sierra Madre Troika are "beholden" to the Police union and Sacramento.
    Who benefits?

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    1. when we are relying on Glenn for insight...well we are peeing in the wind

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    2. I don't read this blog often (my system can only tolerate so much condescending venom) so I am unfamiliar for whom the "Pig Lady" reference is intended. However, unless that term refers to a fictional character, the moderator should cut posts that contain this sexist and demeaning epithet.

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    3. if you don't read this blog often because of the condescending venom then you certainly must avoid the editorials by Susan Henderson right?

      most of the condescending views are a mirror of what is presented to us by those that have been basically screwing up the city for developer agendas for the last dozen years

      so, the "Pig Lady" isn't a nice term I'd agree but it refers to Neil The Pig (RIP) who owned Neil so she was known as the Pig Lady.

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    4. It is an honorary name bestowed on the Pig Lady, who cared for her little porcine creature from birth. It is neither sexist nor demeaning unless, of course, you are anti-pig.

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    5. The lady who owned Neil the Pig, aka The Pig Lady, acted in a most dispictable way at the meeting when the LA Co Sheriff's department presented their proposal for delivering police service to the City of Sierra Madre. Some said she was inebriated, all I can say was that she was a terrible representation of the otherwise good citizens of Sierra Madre. Not meaning to demean pigs, the old addage definately past its' animal lovers usefulness, but she was down right awful!!!

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    6. It's ok, she has a Ph.D in Psychology. Which she has told us numerous times.

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  11. Exactly right...Glen Lambdin and his puppeteer, Bart Doyle, still trying to DESTROY Sierra Madre since 1996.

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    1. 20 years of idiocy.

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    2. Bart Doyle - building industry lobbyist.

      Glen Lambdin - handyman construction guy

      John Buchanan - utility company lawyer

      Joe Mosca (gone but not forgotten) - another utility company lawyer

      Josh Moran - mortgage salesman

      Rob Stockly (at the time) - commercial banker

      and then those they they endorsed John H. John C. Gene Goss

      how is anybody surprised that the residents were ignored and developers were coddled at City Hall?

      Glenn loves to hear himself talk

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    3. He must really be into nonsense.

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  12. Who in their right mind would listen to Glen Lamedun as to not bring the LASD into police our town? Along with Bill Coburn and his sister, these are the folks who tried to put three story buildings up and down our business district.
    As to our city manager is there anybody left supporting her or do we show her the door along with her minions. Come on John C show some leadership, because you looked really bad in Arcadia yesterday.

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  13. Hire the sheriffs now!
    Instead of an election we should have a recall.
    The Troika has been "influenced" by some very bad elements.

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  14. You Who Did Not Run For CouncilFebruary 3, 2016 at 6:15 AM

    You do realize you could have won the election. John Harabedian & John Capoccia's foot dragging on Council have put the City's residents at risk.

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  15. Rachelle and Denise....speak up and fight for us. Please.

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    1. They did. They voted to put the UUT on the ballot and they have not addressed the problem with the PD. I have heard no one ask how the absolute proposal from the Sheriff's is going. The city council asked that it be done, but was it?

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  16. We need to hire the Sheriff's now. Let the current force leave. You call that loyalty. It was the leadership of this city that kept up the drumbeat about low pay and caused everybody to walk out. They need to keep their mouth's shut and expound on the benefits of working in Mayberry. Of course you are not going to get paid as much as you would in South Central but you also are not going to get shot at on a regular basis. They need to forget about trying to leverage this situation in order to garner support for the UUT. The police are still overpaid in my view - and I don't care what other cities are paying. If they want to play fast and lose with the taxpayers' money, that's up to them.

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  17. Stop the madness. Hire the Sheriffs.

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  18. Hire the Sheriff's and you not only get a better job but also pay 800K less per year. I'd call that a bargain.

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  19. I, too, say hire the Sheriff. I know the mayor reads the Tattler, so, right here right now, there are 20-0 wanting the sheriff!

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    1. Please add my household - 24

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  21. The City Manager certainly has not managed this. Her fatal flaw is now apparent to all ... if you have an impending request of such magnitude you talk to all the parties involved to lay the ground work for the upcoing request. We might not like the elected officials but it is the City Manager who is front and central on all of this.
    And, AND we have some recent and past history with Arcadia that could have foretold this...the current water dispute over the well the dug that undercut our Ramond 'basin' aquifer recharging and a group of folks, led by Bart Doyle I might add, that wanted to annex our school population to Arcadia's school system. Oh, lordy!

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    1. expect her to handle it efficiently and correctly?

      you're kidding right?

      it took under her leadership over 700 staff hours last year to plan the Mt Wilson Trail Race - this alone reeks of incompetence

      problem is she had protected her pensions so well that we'll be paying her a full salary in retirement and still be paying for her mistakes

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    2. Of course Elaine is complicit in making this a campaign issue. If you want to increase taxes, why you need to create a crisis situation so that the uninformed will vote to give up more of their hard earned money. This is just another version of "closing the library", except closing the library is not detrimental to our safety. They should be fired for placing the citizens at risk just so they can get a tax increase.

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    3. Leaving Sierra Madre vulnerable to nighttime home invasion robberies in order to make a political point that involves tax increases and pension padding is pretty awful behavior.

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    4. Where is the FBI when you need it?

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    5. Maybe it is intentional and if so criminal.

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  22. Sheriff, sheriff, sheriff!

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  23. The city manager and the city council have ruined this town. No more GREASE, get rid of the bums! If someone in this town gets hurt or killed, they are all liable and will be sued personally. Co po co , you really screw up big time. JUST think, the SPPD officers don't even respect you or your staff .. Furthermore, I don't know of any town the police has walked out off. This will be a first and Great Thing to be put on your res o may... O by the way, when are you planning on fixing our water infrasture, remember, you promised the taxpayer when you kept raising the water rates!!! Mr mayor, are you aware that our wells have No Water. Just want to tell you again!!!!

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  24. This is the perfect storm.. The city council must clean house starting with Elaine or they All need to go Now. The TAXPAYERS own this town

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    1. Well done Tattler.
      If we keep sustained pressure on Elaine Aguilar and her protege John Cappocia they will eventually hang themselves in their own web of lies.
      They have one issue - looting the City for the benefit of their constituency - the City employees.
      Eventually this ,like all Ponzi schemes will stop. The question is when & after how much damage?

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  25. What seems obvious to me is that Capoccia, Aguilar and Chief Giannone had no idea what they were in for when they walked into that room. All they had to go on were the conversations between the two chiefs. Complete amateur hour. They never should have been there. Chandler clobbered them, and did it for the pleasure of an Arcadia audience. Lambs to the slaughter.

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    1. Sierra Madre embarrassed Arcadia a few years ago when they caught them stealing our water. Arcadia wasn't going to pass up a chance to poke Sierra Madre in the eye.

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    2. What can you expect from a city that steals our water? Arcadia is not a good neighbor and never has been since Lucky Baldwin days.

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    3. Chandler having the right information is the broken clock being right twice in 24 hours.
      The guy is a complete jerk.

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  26. Maybe we need a write in candidate.

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  27. solutions, not fightingFebruary 3, 2016 at 9:04 AM

    mr. mayor, allow me please to help as I love the city and want the best for its residents.

    1. act on the sheriff's 20/20 proposal now and bank the $800k annual savings. SMPD is now decimated and cannot meet the city's need for 24 hour a day coverage. rather than throwing money at a now necessary restructuring, move on and sign with the sheriff.

    2. withdraw the 10% uut proposal, as it is needed for no reason other than to fund the police department and the 47% of the general fund it consumes.

    3. schedule a vote on an 8% uut increase for June or November. indicate that now that the sheriff is in place the entire year one proceeds of that tax increase - $500k - will be devoted to improving the little league fields ($250k), the library ($150k), and senior services ($100k). indicate that in subsequent years the proceeds will be applied to other public improvements and/or infrastructure that will benefit us all.

    4. sit back and be hailed as the savior of Sierra Madre.

    Sincerely, Rick De La Mora

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    1. Sorry, Rick. Can't agree with number 3. Make the city live within its means at 6%. The only way to make them responsible is to take away the money.

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    2. Let the people decide. If the city isn't wasting the money on CalPERS platinum pensions, the people may pass it.

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    3. very reasonable position. but consider this. rather than being the "no" team, let's be builders of the future!

      just think of how awesome it's going to be watching the kids and grandkids running around a state of the art Heasley field like those they have in irvine. and how, after their baseball/softball activities, they will retire to our library to enjoy pristine copies of jane austen novels. and how our seniors will become super-fit by taking city sponsored zumba and yoga classes.

      this foothill utopia is within our reach. only the police department stands in our way.

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    4. Onward and Upward: Everyone may sicken because of the poor water, Did you forget that?

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    5. Measure UUT is a CalPERS tax. It does nothing for the city's water infrastructure.

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    6. The Seniors have lots of money banked in a special account (how do you think they are paying for the Park House addition?. They certainly don't need 100K from our general fund.

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    7. if we want to spend money on Heasley Field the Girls Softball Association needs to kick in about half because it's a private business using city facilities

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    8. Until we get rid of Elaine Aguilar,Capoccia and CALPERS,nothing will improve.
      Babbling about a softball field is delusional.

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  28. Sad
    We have to leadership!
    Look at the picture, it tells it all.
    Sad
    We have no leadership

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  29. The CAPPS guy was right all along... CITY COUNCIL & CITY MANAGEMENT have a Management problem, a Spending Problem, and a Taxation problem. We the Taxpayers have been fleeced by the city choooooses to create those Pensions, Cadallic Health Plans, and continue to feed the broken machine, and furthermore fail to fix the water infrasture which the Taxpayers have been heavily taxed for but not received. This logic has got to stop. The CAPPS GUY wants our Vote to Repeal the UUT taxes, and we are going to give it to him. Let's Make Sierra Madre Great Again for the next Generation to come. With out change for the better, we only have more unresolved problems!!!

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  30. I agree with Rick.

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  31. Elaine Aguilar, as the City Manager of Sierra Madre is paid $225,000.00 dollars a year! Really! I'm Not kidding! $225,000.00
    Larry Giannone,the Chief of Police of Sierra Madre is the second highest paid city employee other than Aguilar. Giannone is paid $200,000.00 dollars a year! Really! We pay a retired police officer, who is collecting his pension, an additional $200,00.00 dollars a year!! Giannone lost over half of his police force. That is incredibly poor management of the police department.
    The professional individuals that represent Sierra Madre make our village of Mayberry look like a backwards hicktown. When are the people that are hired and voted to represent us, going to act professional, appear educated, knowledgeable, and make decisions that are in the best interest of the community?
    We know that these two employees have done nothing good for our community and should be FIRED!

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    1. Wasn't Giannone already retired from another PD when he came to work at the result of a search by Chief Diaz?




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  32. Lambs to the slaughter.

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  33. What Giannone told the Pasadena Star News on Jan 26: “This is totally a temporary measure to make sure we’re providing the same level of service to the community as we start to build our department back up,” said Giannone. “We have a great working relationship with Arcadia and we’re here to help each other.”
    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/government-and-politics/20160126/why-half-of-sierra-madres-police-force-suddenly-left?source=most_viewed

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    1. A great working relationship with Arcadia? The city that ripped off our water?

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    2. He also said he had 35 applicants.

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    3. 65.
      “I think that’s going very well; we have 65 applicants,” said Giannone.
      Aguilar was quoted in the Mountain Views News as saying they have no applicants. So take your pick.

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    4. I believe it was closer to 65 applicants, who cares....

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  34. DESTROY THE MACHINE, take away the money!

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    1. The Troika are substance abuse addicts. The substance they abuse is our money

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  35. its appears to be just another email scandal. maybe we should call the fbi, they should be able to straighten it out! let them decide if its zero, 35 or 65

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  36. I want to know if we have police protection at night or not.
    If anything happens to me I have instructed my family to sue the city and the troika for not having the sheriffs here.

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    1. The city is gambling with your safety for a political advantage.

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    2. Another set of rumors just to make you scared, just like the Alegria event where we would have no protection from all of those rowdy out-of-towners. There will be and is now police protection at night in Sierra Madre. Don't let anyone play the political card where there will be no protection until we get the sheriff, therefore vote no on the UUT.

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  37. Has anyone seen all the REPEAL THE UTILITY TAX signs all over Arcadia?
    Same people who have SAVE ARCADIA signs.I always give them money when the collect signatures. I like those volunteers.
    Support Preserve Sierra Madre volunteers.They are trying to save our town.
    We want slow growth.
    We want clean water.
    We want sheriffs.

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    1. As far as I know, the Preserve Sierra Madre is not in the Sheriff or UUT fight, and I hope they don't. This is purely a political fight with the elephant in the room: The Tea Party. They don't care about Sierra Madre, they just care about their no tax ideology. I'm for the Sheriff, but the no tax just won't work here- we will have to pay the Sheriff remember.

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    2. 6% is best. I can live with Rick's 8%. Just as long as the city isn't flushing it down the CalPERS toilet. I want it to go to fix things, like our lousy water company. If it is just being given to somebody so they can retire two decades before me? Hell no.

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    3. 12:53 you are a laugh riot. Half the PD quits so you know who to blame - the Tea Party. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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  38. How soon before the criminals figure out that the city is playing politics with public safety?

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  39. 10.53 post

    Elaine has always been an habitual liar and has a potty mouth, no one can trust her, then some one ask? why hasn't the city council fired her?

    Then the reply is ... you know... the mayor relies on Elaine to tell the mayor the truth...

    Well, its all lies, and furthermore no truth....

    Well, it like fleas, they all hang together in colonies...

    you know what I mean, or should I have to explain it ...

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  40. God help us if anyone gets hurt or killed some night. Could be the biggest lawsuit in city history.

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  41. You got that right 12:30 pm.
    Right now thanks to the troika we're all on our own. Fortunately many residents are armed...many residents have security systems. Hopefully we'll be safe. Always call 911 in emergency....they dispatch to the sheriffs and the sheriffs in the unincorporated area of East pasadena will respond.

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  42. 12.53 post

    by hiring the sheriffs it saves the TAXPAYERS, not city hall, $800,000 plus the $400,000 for Pasadena detectives & helicopters (THATS $1.2 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR), that's a crap load of money!

    The Sherriff's have helicopters and can provide enforcement services which Sierra Madre Police can not do!

    If it was not for TEAPAC, our city hall would never face the music to retire the SMPD with those Bucannan & Bart Doyle Pensions & Expensive Cadillac Health Insurance Plans!

    I think when you go to bed tonight you need to say a little prayer and thank God for others who are truly looking over others residents....

    And I am not talking about Sierra Madre City Council or Elaine Aguliar.

    Please also say a little prayer for the city council members of Arcadia, who voted 5 - 0 to disallow Arcadia cops to police Sierra Madre city streets,

    This is our problem to deal with, not Arcadia"s

    Its found that those who cry the loudest, are found sitting on the curb, get off the curb and give TEAPAC a donation and community service hours, we could use your help installing front yard signs, REPEAL ALL UUT TAXES, Do Something Positive to help the Community of Sierra Madre which you live in!


    Please, think about supporting your city and the people walking the streets asking for signatures, and get in line to purchase a UUT Tax - Calphers sign which says REPEAL THE UUT Taxes.

    God Bless the community of Sierra Madre!

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    1. What you are saying is a bunch of crap. TeaPac has their own agenda and are not interested in Sierra Madre except to say that their volunteers brought us to our knees in repealing all taxes. Sierra Madre is not like other cities that have a sales tax base.

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    2. Financial mismanagement and incompetence is what allows the Tea Party to prosper in a town like Sierra Madre.

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  43. Go to your local gun shop,

    and buy yourself a 45 caliper Desert Eagle,

    that's all the protection you will need,

    there are easy to aim and shoot, and they sure make lots of noise.

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    1. paranoid gun nut

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    2. Yes, 2:03. That's more than twice the number of calipers of a 22 and 18% more than a 38. And I'll bet it produces many more debacles of sound than those two, too.

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  44. This picture of mayor john sure looks disturbing!

    I looks like the mayor just woke up from a knapp,

    just think, this is how our taxpayers feel when we stand up at Sierra Madre podium and No City councilman pays attention to us either!

    John, if the shoes fits or doesn't fit, take em home any way!

    and please don't return them!!!

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    1. Anyone can have a bad picture.

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  45. When is the city council members going to hire a competent city manager?

    OR

    is Mayor Jon planning on giving Elaine a raise / OR boot and why and when ?

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  46. there all idiots!

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    Mayor John is disturbing.
    Why won't he hire the sheriffs?
    Why when the majority of people want the sheriffs for financial and security
    reasons?
    Could it be these obstructionist people like the mayor and the other two and Lambdin,city officials have something to gain here and don't care what the people think?
    Maybe. Why else would they be fighting against the only feasible way out?
    Why?

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  48. Pasadena Star News editorial up. Says Sierra Madre needs to look at the Sheriffs. Links to this Tattler article. You will need to go to their website to check it out b

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    1. Saw it! It has also been posted to the No On UUT Facebook page.

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  49. Grass roots effort to inform the voters door to door information on the NO on the April ballot for the UUT. It may be confusing to people of we don't as Arcadia's repeal of the UUT is a "Yes" vote and you can see a few of those signs on Santa Anita just as you drive north from Foothill Blvd.

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  50. Although I am seriously displeased with John Capoccia's performance the photo you cribbed off of the Arcadia TV feed is blatantly unfair. It captures an action way off normal and if someone did that to you with the same intention you would be enraged.

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    1. Okay, it isn't always easy to get a picture from the TV. A picture is a picture! Unfair? The mayor is unfair.

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    2. The Mod is a tough guy, and he's had more than his share of ridicule. Capoccia's a tough guy, too, and I don't think either of them are bothered much by the pettiness of politics.

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  51. john will be fine. the one i worry about is elaine!

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    1. I'm off bagels for life.

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  52. Arcadia has a bag of snakes problems with their city why adopt Sierra Madrea's?

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