Thursday, February 4, 2016

Pasadena Star News Editorial: Sierra Madre Should Explore Policing By The Sheriff

Mod: Big editorial today in the Pasadena Star News advising the City of Sierra Madre to take a long hard look at bringing in the Sheriffs. Link here to the PSN site.


Mod: The big question: When will Mayor Capoccia call an emergency City Council meeting to discuss the police crisis and bringing in the LASD? Will somebody have to get hurt first?

Rick De La Mora's attempt to reason with Mayor Capoccia

Mod: What follows is a letter Rick sent to Mayor Capoccia in hopes of bringing him to some very reasonable compromises on the question of how law enforcement needs to get done here in lieu of the SMPD's collapse. It seems that everyone is trying to get John Capoccia to do the right thing.

Dear Mayor Capoccia:

I find it discouraging that our city is divided when we all have the same goal in mind: A better and more vibrant Sierra Madre. As a result, I have decided to write to you with my thoughts on how our city can (i) deal with Arcadia's rejection of its request for supplemental police services, (ii) make needed improvements, and (iii) meet all funding needs. To that end, I encourage you to take the following actions:

1.  Adopt the Sheriff's 20/20 proposal and bank the $700k in annual savings it will yield.  This will for the first time free the city from its 47% police services spend.  It will also enable the city to receive the 24 hour/devoted police service coverage it requires without having to engage in the now necessary protracted and expensive re-build of the police department.

2.  Withdraw the 10% UUT proposal, which is openly being promoted as a way to provide still further funding to the Police Department without addressing our disproportionate police spend.

3.  Propose and place on the ballot an 8% UUT increase of $500k a year which would be applied to civic improvements and infrastructure. During year one I would propose that $250k of this be devoted to improving our Little League facilities, $150k to improving our Library, and $100k for senior services.  It is essential that the council promise that all future proceeds of the increase would be applied to civic improvements and/or investments in parks and infrastructure.

I am confident the entire city would get behind such a proposal, as the cost (loss of a proprietary Police Department) would be more than offset by the benefits (a steady flow of civic improvements).  Moreover, I am confident the City Council would prefer to be involved in building and delivering civic improvements rather than trying to continually deal with the ever increasing funding demands associated with our Police Department.

Once again, I would like to thank you for your service to our City and wish you and the council well in addressing our civic needs.                                                          

sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

60 comments:

  1. This Star News editorial is a major step forward. It should now be obvious to everyone what we need to do.

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    1. The Star-News editorial means nothing. Larry Wilson's is clearly a parrot reciting what he's been reading here. And the recital came only after Wednesday's devastating blog post in this very spot. If the City Council does anything at all it will be because of this blog -- not the incredibly flaccid, dysfunctional and ever shrinking local rag.

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    2. The Star News editorial means a lot. That is the real reason you are so upset. Don't blame the messenger. The SMPD fired itself.

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    3. We have an emergency on our hands. I wonder how many criminals read the newspaper and know that Sierra Madre is in dire straights and unprotected. We need to contract with the Sheriffs immediately before someone gets hurt as a result of the reduced manpower.

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    4. The city seems more concerned about seeing to the morale of its remaining police officers than public safety. They are playing a very dangerous game. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

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    5. 7:45 - take a deep breath and relax. In fact, read the police blotter. all the cops do in sierra madre is hand out traffic tickets (which you can't even pay for at the police station) and follow up on break ins that have already happened. Really no need for you to feel any more threatened than you already do.

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    6. 7:18, if you were being truthful, you'd mention that Larry Wilson is a Liberal and virtually never supports anything having to do with fiscal and/or political conservatism.

      The truth is the safety situation in SM is so bad, we need LASD now. Or we can risk the safety of our citizens with a half-ass solution.

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    7. I'm tired of blokes like you always pretending everyday that we're always under a constant state of siege. Crime is minimal in Sierra Madre not because the police are so great but because the community is great. We just need a tame force at a financial feasible cost.

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    8. Agreed 11:38. Too much hysteria. Things ain't great, but running around in circles doesn't fix anything.

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  2. why are we even still talking about this? Make it a done deal.

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    1. what's frustrating is that John da Mayor has told the bull methane line so many times he believes it or wants us to believe it

      holding or raising the UUT has nothing to do with the PD - the UUT was to repair the infrastructure - not pander to Calpers or the Police Union - to heck with them

      I feel safer 100% safer with the SMPD at half staff cause when they all where here locked and loaded I never trust their training

      why? cause they kept a officer and subsequently promoted him even though he freaked out and shot an unarmed man in the back

      a few more inches or a jerk of the hand when Amos pulled the trigger and we'd have one of those 10 million lawsuits and deservedly so

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  3. Get us the sheriffs now. City council.
    Denise and Rachelle...can't you demand an emergency meeting?

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    1. Denise and Rachelle support the uut increase to 10% because they support the sheriff.

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    2. We need an emergency meeting. Arcadia is experiencing record levels of home invasion burglaries. It is only a matter of time before the criminals figure out that Sierra Madre has a crippled half-staffed PD. Stop playing stupid politics and focus on the real problem here.

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    3. I meant to say Denise and Rachelle support SMPD. They are not our friends.

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    4. I know for a fact they do not.

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    5. Shhh! Not so loud already.

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    6. if they don't support SMPD they need to do something about it. Keeping a chair warm alone is not helpful.

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    7. Insulting them on a blog does not help anything. You can be angry with everyone, and think that it is all a giant conspiracy. That is your right. But it doesn't help matters. This city could very well make a big change in how it does public safety. In the process saving the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars. Try looking at the big picture. Stop throwing garbage.

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    8. no one is insulting them. if they have done anything, they are keeping it a secret. they voted to table the sheriff's proposal. they voted to put the 10% uut on the ballot. I fail to see any distinction between the silent two and the council members who are routinely bashed on this blog. they need to step up or step down.

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    9. What you are advocating is the equivalent of lighting your hair on fire and trying to put it out with a hammer. All you are going to get out of that is a scorched scalp and lots of lumps.

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  4. I believe Rick letter is written as a desperate attempt to entice mayorsherriff John. It my opinion this letter is disolutional, and I disaprovr the contents 100%. This city hsll has Management Problems, Spending Problems. And Taxation Problems. I want to take away cities halls money. Then city hall must show the taxpayer that they can make cuts, cut the fat, reduce spending. What's going on here is the AT&T thinking pattern. Spend all your money and Tax the Taxpayer more. I requested multiple Public Records Requests, city hall hall has denied me of my rights. I asked for an accounting of all city hall legal expenses by class, they don't provide them, said I was not entitled to see what city hall spends, its the taxpayer money, with that attitude, let's take away money and watch them squeel. City hall has the entitlement opinion, if we want more money, we will just create more Phantom taxation, just like the new $1.5 million dollars of new taxes which they created at end of the 4th quartr 2015. The word budget and cut is not in city Halls vocabulary, well ... lets find the definition and use it. ciy Hall has $25+ million dollars in annual revenues, being all comminguled and misapplied to different accounts. I believed city hall needs a forenic aduit before I vote that they tax the residents any more money. Mayor John is afraid of such an audit, it will only create more problems. We need to make America Great Again, let's start with Sierra Madre. The pensions and cadallic health pagages need to go. Screw the Unions.

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    1. I agree with this. No more taxes. Madre prudent decisions, be more efficient, cut the waste, have fair and reasonable salaries, benefits and pensions for our public employees regardless of what other cities do. I'm sure there will be no shortage of people willing to work in Sierra Madre. But whatever we do, don't buy into raising the UUT.

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  5. 6.59. What a Great Post. I believe the contents is to the point. We must have a forensic audit to verify or prove the city's spending is or not in the best interest of the taxpayer. If city. Hall does not want to approve it, I believe their crooks.

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  6. A forensic audit has been needed for years. They will never do it. Too incriminating to too many well known names...example...Bart Doyle, et all

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    1. Kurt Zimmerman called for the audit when he was on the council. The council did not support him, and Buchanan championed the need for caution with legal ramifications.

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    2. that's funny because Kurt had more legal knowledge and ramifications in his left pinky than Buchanan had in his total. Buchanan loved him some Buchanan.

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  7. 7:48
    It's naive to think they aren't crooks.

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    1. It is naive to think that the real issue right now isn't public safety. We need the Sheriffs.

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  8. If push ever comes to shove? City Hall will only approve of an internal audit
    Their every time it comes up excuse?
    "It's too expensive "
    To that we all say.... "SO IS THE SMPD"

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    1. Speaking of audits, when will ours be released stating the CalPers debt?
      My guess is after the election.

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  9. Agree with 6:59 - great post. The City has to manage its spending. Otherwise soon it cannot even afford the Sheriffs.

    "RIVERSIDE COUNTY: 13 cities study creating new joint police department -- Frustrated by rising costs, they are studying the idea of ending their Sheriff’s Department contracts and forming a new agency." Copy and paste the link below for details.
    http://www.pe.com/articles/cities-782270-police-costs.html

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    1. I understand Riverside County has also gone to a private library system- not city, not county, private. Can we get that here?

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    2. Can't do that, cause we're special. We're also broke. Lol

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    3. Sounds like Riverside is seeing 7% increases with their sheriff's contract. How well does that bode for us if we switch to a Sheriff's contract?

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    4. Probably depends who negotiates the contract.

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    5. (:12A The CC has already had bids for outsourcing the library. The county of L.A. Which was okay but tied to unions as well as a private company that I believe was cheaper,somewhat, and offerred 7 days a week. Nothing was done about it.

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    6. Lower right hand corner of your check.

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    7. Have the Library open 7 days a week? We can't have that. It might be...used!

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  10. The mayor and the others city council men are the continued problem. They should have fired Elaine years ago. I would not tolerate her crap if working for me. She talks out of both sides of her mouth, and is a habittual lier. Just ask her staff of backless employees. If the mayor doesn't fire her, then the taxpayers need to fire all of them, they have no value to this community.

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  11. Is our mayor still walking around with his tail between his legs? Those Arcadia City Council members are tough. Copocha did not even get to first base, like they say in baseball, capoca was thrown 5 pitches and he struck out on all 5 of them, the score was 5 & 0.

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    1. Keep up the pressure Tattlers ! We are making progress. The harder we push the truth on them ,the more Elaine and John Capoccia lie and squirm.

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    2. Actually it was 4 to 0, 9:06. Mickey Segal was absent.

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  12. I agree that we need a forensic audit!
    I have also asked through the Request for Public Records for information concerning legal fees paid out by the City of Sierra Madre. The City Manager refuses to provide them. The City Manager has forgotten that she is here to serve the tax paying citizens. We need to get rid of her and hire someone who is competent and can do the job.

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    1. There actually is a law that states that cities do not have to give info regarding the cost of suits. The monetary amounts can be found in the warrants. High smith, et al are well over 200,000 for last year. There are several other lawyers fees that are quite high but no telling what they were for.The CC, I believe, has to ask for a forensic audit. If that's true, fat chance this group will do that. If anyone else knows how to request a forensic audit, please let us know.

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  13. 6:59 for City Manager!
    Make Sierra Madre great again

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  14. Does anyone know how much the City paid to CalPers in 2015?
    How much will that amount increase in 2016?
    We need to deal with cold hard facts.

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  15. Old time political participants will be interested to know that Bart Doyle's house is being painted....one can only hope it's going to be put on the market, and the man who has done so much damage to Sierra Madre will finally get out of town.

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    1. The basic problem is a Public Employee/Management system that encourages corruption, self-serving pay/benefit excesses and no incentives for good performance. No business would survive such an environment - for good reason !
      Here is an example of why we Tattlers need to purge every Dept. in City Hall:
      Riding my hog around town - Public Works is painting a stop sign on the road. There are 5 workers and 3 supervisors -including both Inman and Cimino.Not one of them was actually doing anything.They were just chatting in the sunshine.
      For God's sake put the Public Works projects out to bid ! Get rid of these time-serving parasites.Make Sierra Madre great again?

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    2. Maybe, 11:20. He's left that house crumbling for years.

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    3. Bart, please take Nancy Walsh with you - she needs to go too.

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  16. And this is how they "work" when Sierra Madre residents can see them.Imagine what goes on out of sight?
    Those 8 employees are costing us in pay+benefits $1000/hour -for painting(very slowly) a frigging stop sign on the road. All 8 were basically giving us the middle finger because they just don't care if we see and comment how idle they are.What can we do? Here's what we do - name and shame them !

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    1. Obviously you didn't watch the discussion about that particular stop sign. Since they are putting it in against the experts advice, the city is responsible if someone gets hurt at that corner. Use your imagination as to why management wants to get it right.

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    2. The "expert" does not drive up and down Mountain Trail on and off throughout the week when students are crossing in an intersection that is not controlled by a stop sign and they walk to and from school. If someone gets hurt at that corner it will be the fault of the driver who did not stop for the crossing pedestrian. There are several other stop signs that went in over the non-recommendation of the "expert."

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    3. What's the history of accidents at that intersection over the past 100 years? negligible, I'm sure.

      But it's a nice new opportunity to fine those in the habit of doing the 'california roll'.

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    4. California Roll is the cheeseburger of sushi.

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  17. Add in the fact that Arcadia has signs saying vote Yes on the UUT ballot initiative to get rid of the UUT there. It will be confusing or NOT as we don't have any grass roots effort to put the NO on the UUT out in the public on front lawns, door hangers, etc.

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  18. Those guys usually paint street lines during rush hour!

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  19. "Use your imagination as to why management wants to get it right."
    There are only 4 letters in the word stop and only one color of paint and one stencil.
    That takes 3 senior Management and 5 workers?
    This is exactly the problem. The 'imagination' guy actually thinks this is O.K. Such low expectations are the ultimate outcome of failure to follow reasonable management practices. We can do better in Sierrra Madre - with new Management.

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