Friday, February 19, 2016

Sheriff Town: La Cañada Flintridge named among state's 'Safest Cities'


Mod: According to a Feb.12 article published in the La Cañada Valley Sun, the Los Angeles County Sheriffs patrolled La Cañada Flintridge numbers among the very safest in the entire state of California. Something that flies in the face of some of the more erroneous claims being made here by certain members of the "When did you fall in love with Sierra Madre?" crowd. Apparently the Civility Party has now somehow morphed into the "Love Party," and unfortunately has a similar disregard for the truth. That includes the claim that Sierra Madre would somehow become less safe should the far more adequately staffed Sheriffs come on board. Here is that Valley Sun article (link):


Mod: Another Love Party canard you often hear around town is that LASD response times would be far slower than what Sierra Madre experiences now because the Sheriffs would be stationed in Temple City. This, of course, is utter nonsense on two levels. One because the LASD would by all reasonable accounts be stationed in Sierra Madre's own Police Station. Secondly because Sierra Madre would be patrolled by the LASD 24/7. Something that the SMPD cannot adequately do right now. Here is how this matter was addressed recently in an e-mail blast from the Barry Gold for City Council campaign.

"The biggest misconception about the Sheriff is that they will be based in Temple City and that response times will be too long.  That is one option they offer us.  However, another option is to be based in our own police building right next to city hall.  This is the option we must take and this option saves us thousands and thousands of dollars that can be better used to fund other services and help with the cost of replacing our 80 year old water pipes.

I SUPPORT THE OPTION WHERE THE SHERIFF WILL BE BASED HERE IN SIERRA MADRE.  THE EXACT PLACE THAT OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IS BASED.

Do not let anyone try to convince you otherwise.  It is a scare tactic.  They know the option to be based here is available to us."

Saving Arcadia issues its City Council election endorsements

Mod: This was forwarded to me yesterday.


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68 comments:

  1. Were going to save our gold when we elect Barry Gold.

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  2. Can you imagine a city council majority made up of Denise, Rachelle and Barry? Independent thinkers all.

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    1. this comment is too rich.

      Independent Denise and Rachelle support keeping SMPD and increasing the uut to pay for it - just like the two johns and gene.

      They should be held to account.

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    2. You're wrong on the SMPD thing. The UUT we'll take care of ourselves and take it back to 6%. One of the things I like about Barry's candidacy is that he also avoids being absolutist. Learn to compromise a little. You'll be more popular.

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    3. if these two are against keeping SMPD why did they sign the pro 67% tax increase argument, which justifies the increase by the need to keep SMPD?

      They are doing nothing to help our budget situation. They are enabling the Love Boys.

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    4. As I believe all City Councilmembers have said, a 10% UUT will not be enough to sustain the SMPD. The Sheriff deal is done. It will happen no matter what. All the CC is doing now is herd management. The Ditzy Dozen that showed up to insult the representatives of the Sheriffs Department a few months back need to be kept in their boxes. Otherwise they'll start biting people.

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    5. true when all Council members are taking the easy way out by endorsing the UUT - lazy decision making

      the primary issue is fixing the present and future biggest cash drain the penion and benefit program - the asylum is run by the inmates - the City Manager made decisions that were contrary to the best needs of the city with the pension and pay plans and now she's got a brand new Mercedes convertible which sort of ruins that image of that car

      I'm voting No because it's my only way of voting my displeasure with her administration and management

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    6. Elaine's car has nothing to do with the state of the city, your vote of "displeasure" is not a valid reason. Give us a good argument besides the sheriff which we know is coming to town. Rachelle and Denise voted to put the 10%UUT on the ballot because these two bright ladies looked at all the facts and did their duty of doing what was best for the city, not their own personal ideas. Remember, Denise worked in human resources for a company that was going bankrupt and knows how to read a budget, salaries and benefits. I trust them over all your remarks about showing Elaine your displeasure.

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  3. maybe its because all the rich stay at home soccer moms call the cops every time they see someone in their neighborhood that doesn't look like them; the neighborhood watch thing must really work there.

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    1. Q) How can you tell when you're in Sierra Madre?
      A) There's 6 SMPD, three cop cars and a black man seated on the curb.

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    2. My wife is a rich stay at home soccer mom. And she Ives in Sierra Madre. We have been burglarized twice in the last year.

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    3. Hopefully she has been given an adequate amount of traffic tickets.

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    4. Two, one by a sexist SMPD officer who asked she knew how to turn on her lights and to demonstrate such knowledge. That brought out the crazy ex litigator in her. Oh!

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    5. Anon@6:37 I hate to say it but it probably is your children's friends that are burglarizing your home,it usually is.

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    6. I'm glad to hear your rich rich 6:37 now pay your fair share of taxes and stop complaining.

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    7. too young, but one robbery was the night of a local 20s party. So I agree

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    8. Q) How can you tell you're in Los Angeles?
      A) There's 30 LAPD,50 cop cars and a black man laying in a pool of blood dead #blacklivesmatter

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    9. 6:53 - sorry, but I already have children to support. I don;t need to add the SMPD to that list.

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    10. I notice fair share of taxes is usually spoken by those who have a UUT exemption.

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    11. remember when a group of kids snuck into and were exploring the old Nursing Facility building and someone saw then called into the PD and identified them as kids but our PD SWAT team went in with guns drawn on the kids, knowing in advance it was just kids.


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  4. It is not funny how every council member is afraid of the local cops.

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    1. It is happening all over California. Local elected officials fear their employees.
      http://unionwatch.org/unionized-governments-open-season-on-taxpayers/

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    2. why? just dudes with guns and attitudes, what could go wrong?

      just don't fall asleep in a Murano

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  5. That "When did you first fall in love with Sierra Madre?" slogan is showing up all over now. Did the city hire a PR firm to come up with it?

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    1. I first fell in love with Sierra Madre when they shipped me off to Wilson Jr.HS in 1964 didn't know how good I had it at Sierra Madre school,since you asked.

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    2. I fell in love with Sierra Madre when Measure V passed.

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    3. I fell in love with Sierra Madre when the UUT failed in 2012 & 2014 and City Hall quit wasting our money.

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    4. yuck, that's what John Buchanan, Joe Mosca and then later Noah Greene all said about SM when they were running for Council - all "loved the city" so much that they just had to run for Council to change it - goofy Noah had the campaign idea of promoting Halloween in SM and had never heard of Allegria

      lawyers, pfffffff

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    5. Those guys practically loved the town to death.

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    6. ... and still are.

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  6. "...fall in love with Sierra Madre?" What a conceit! Lots of nice places in the world besides this town. Everything is not and never has been hunky dory in Sierra Madre. You haven't been paying attention.

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    1. When somebody asks you when you fell in love with Sierra Madre, check and make sure your wallet is still in your pocket.

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    2. 7:15 Don't let the door hit you in the a** on your way out.............Love is not "hunky dory" BTW

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    3. Love is not about being judgemental, 7:35.

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    4. Love Sierra Madre ... or else.

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    5. the utility company lawyers we had on the Council "loved" the city - loved it so much they almost got away with approving building of 150 + condos in downtown

      one of those utility company lawyers still meddles with local government cause it's part of his job description with So Cal Edision

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  8. Who Love Sierra Madre More?
    A) Library users?
    B) Measure UUT supporters?
    C) City Hall's critics?
    D) SMPD fans?
    E) The Wistaria Vine?

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    1. F) Dog walkers who care.

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    2. Burglars who get to steal from Sierra Madreans in broad daylight.

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    3. new wave gluten free zealots

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  9. Your saying it takes 6 SM officers to have a conversation with only one individual on the street. Must have been a really bad man. I have seen 2 cars and 2 officers that pulled over a 60+ lady. Made me wonder what she did wrong.

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    1. Sometimes when there are controversial issues at City Council meetings they bring in extra officers for security. Since the average age of those attending is in the late 50s to early 60s, you can hardly blame them for being so cautious.

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    2. If they "Love Sierra Madre" why:
      1.Do they post spiteful comments here
      2. Commit us to eventually going bankrupt under the burden of Calpers
      3. Support dishonest & incompetent people like Harabedian,Aguilar and Inman
      Explain this and I'll listen to the love story. Meanwhile it is just a catchy slogan
      We should try a rival:
      Loving Sierra Madre is :
      1. Clean water
      2.Affordable Cops
      3. Honest & competent City Management
      4. ....please fill in your own sugestions

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    3. I Love Sierra Madre!February 19, 2016 at 8:32 AM

      Fact: Both versions of the Sheriff's proposal will keep our local police station open.

      Fact: The Sheriff's proposal will increase public safety by providing 20% more actual street patrol hours than SMPD provides.

      Fact: La Canada has outstanding response times despite being much larger than Sierra Madre and having a more congested business district that Sierra Madre (7/2/14 LA Times).

      Fact: Even though La Canada has twice our population, three times our area, three major highways, and a larger business district, its total public safety spend is $3.2M - 27% of the general fund. Sierra Madre's is $3.9M.

      Fact: This excessive police spend leaves no money for the THINGS I LOVE ABOUT SIERRA MADRE, THE WORLD'S GREATEST SMALL TOWN: the library, our parks, and our seniors. :(

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    4. Damn. Two great comments, and both at 8:32. I LOVE that!

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    5. I Love Sierra Madre! :)February 19, 2016 at 9:08 AM

      Supplemental Fact: The sheriff's proposal will save us $800k annually.

      Supplemental Fact: The sheriff's proposal will allow the budget to be balanced without increasing the UUT and without any cuts to the library, parks, or senior services.

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    6. Sorry. Makes too much sense.

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  10. I Love Sierra Madre for the people, my neighbors and friends, there is no place better!
    I hate, as my mom would say, "you don't hate anything, just dislike it intensely", the people that run our Village. Most if not all do Not belong here. Elaine should be run out of town, tarred and feather. Elaine has destroyed our Village with the help of a number of council members. The Dirt Love crowd are the greed of the town. I have to wonder why the platen disregard for the will of the people on the UUT and the love affair for a police department, that love to sue us, only to leave. What is the hold that the police have on the elected few, that if they keep the police, no tickets for life.

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    1. Or...
      If your a pedophile its a free ride as long as your DIRT

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    2. ... and wears a skirt.

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    3. I hear bagpipes

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  11. The sad part is city hall is telling the poor Lovie crowd that if they agree to the UUT tax hike everything will be OK and they will be able to live in their fantasy world without a care in the world. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

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    1. City Hall has always wanted you to just pay up and they'll take care of it. hahahahahahaha

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    2. I'm confused. The City didn't do much infrastructure maintenance when the UUT rate was 10% but if we increase our tax bill 66% back to a 10% UUT rate then the city will do infrastructure?

      I am...skeptical.

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    3. They like you to think it is for infrastructure, but it is basically a CalPERS tax. Most of it goes to pay for retirement funding.

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    4. If the city had a record of success they would have a lot more luck raising taxes. But because they don't there is a credibility problem.

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  12. Who loves Sierra Madre the most are those that see bad decisions being made at city hall, decisions that are wasting our tax money and giving poor results. Those that stand up on a busy day and get involved. Those that will really study the issues and vote for whats best for SM not their friends . Just look at the water and police situation alone not to mention waste with all the lawsuit's. We really do need better management at City Hall. I'm writing in Barry Golds name, I think he will get us better use of our tax dollars.

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  13. Harabedian is another story with his affiliations in town. Aguilar and Inman are working way above their ability but not up to what their salary indicates. Dishonest, maybe, incompetent, most likely.

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  14. I want more for my Tax Dollars.

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  15. Subcontract out the library and save $1,000,000 a year, subcontract out the SMPD and save $1,000,000, don't spend the UUT tax $2.5 and reduce staff and pensions and save $1,000,000 more. That's a $5.5 Million Dollar Savings a year, what's wrong with that?

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  16. FYI: PROPOSED New LASD agreement 6 months to a year cost: $1,172830.00 WOW!!!

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    1. Maybe if those people hadn't yelled at them we would have gotten a better price. That is pretty much what it would cost to hire them fulltime b

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    2. I Love Sierra Madre :) A Lot :)February 19, 2016 at 11:48 AM

      The total cost of the LASD full time proposal with 20% more patrol hours is $3.1M (LASD proposal, p. 55). This $1.17M figure for providing a half time department is therefore not surprising.

      What this does, however, highlight is the fact that we cannot afford two have police departments simultaneously. That situation appears to be coming true, as SMPD is not capable of providing full time staffing and, under the best case scenario put out by the city, will not be in a position to do so until March 2017.

      So, to keep SMPD we will be required to ignite $1.17M of taxpayer dollars over the course of the next year. All of this can be avoided if the council acts now to contract with LASD on a full time basis.

      Because of SMPD's inability to provide the service it is req

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    3. I Love Sierra Madre :) A Lot :)February 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM

      The Staff Report is out. It's true. Because of the incompetence of the Council and Chief of Police, the City is now going to spend $98K a month through June and $101k a month thereafter to have the Sheriff pick up the night shifts for our incompetent friends at SMPD.

      According to the Staff Report, this will require the City to raid our "reserves" to the tune of $400k between now and June. That money, once spent, will be forever gone. It will not fund our library. It will not fund improvements to Heasley and Dapper Fields. It will not be applied to future infrastructure. What a waste.

      And for what? So that we can attempt to restock SMPD over the course of the next year and continue to burn an additional $800 annually on its overpriced services?

      Please take this opportunity to write to the mayor and council whose malfeasance has led us to this point.

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    4. 12:34 is right on. It is shocking that the city just keeps digging a bigger whole for all of us. Wake up and smell the mountain air (oh - you're all not working today - how nice). BRING THE SHERIFFS TO TOWN NOW. Don't waste another penny on trying to recruit cheap cops who will stay temporarily and then leave. We cannot lure the best recruits with the tiny salary we offer in our sleepy town. Let's get some pros, save some CALPERS and move on. We have other issues to deal with and this one is dead.

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  17. when are the sheriffs coming?

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