Friday, March 11, 2016

Arcadia Weekly: Ugly Side of Politics - A Letter Naming City Councilman Sho Tay Claims Arcadia Property Values Will Fall 30%

Mod: More Sho Tay shenanigans? An important article by Terry Miller has hit the Internet, and it is causing a lot of talk in the Peacock Peoples' Republic. Apparently City Council member Sho Tay's name has been put on a controversial flyer that declares property values in Arcadia will decrease by a full 30% if anti-mansionization statues are put into effect there . Link to original here.

Arcadia Weekly: Ugly Side of Politics - A Letter Naming City Councilman Sho Tay Claims Arcadia Property Values Will Fall 30% Councilman Sho Tay is once again making news in Arcadia, this time not for offering to mail your ballots and giving you a stamp to boot, but with a political flier using real scare tactics and involving possible civil wrongdoing. Sho Tay (or people he knows) is circulating the following message today. In it he says “please attend a presentation by City Council at the Santa Anita Inn, Friday."

This is NOT a City Council event and we have asked for comments from the Mayor and various City Council members on this latest election tactic. We hope to be able to post their comments later.

Dear Neighbor,
Your house value may DROP 30%. According to the “NEW ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS” that some of our City Council members are trying to pass on March 15, all houses including new and additions in Arcadia, will have to be 25%-48% smaller in size than what is currently allowed.

Most Realtors estimate that the property value will drop up to 30%. If your house needs to be rebuilt in the future, your land value will be very low since only smaller houses are allowed to be built on your land. If this is not acceptable, the city council would like to hear from you on 3/15 at 6PM.

Please email to us at arcadia.residents@gmail.com if you want to sign a letter of objection. We (a group of Arcadia Resident Rights Protection neighbors) will help you express your concerns. If the City Council hears no objections, this will become a law after March 15. This is the official link to city zoning recommendations (see page 8): http://www.ci.arcadia.ca.us/home/showdocument (link)?id=5906

Please attend a presentation given by City Council, Sho Tay. (Private event) At Santa Anita Inn. 130 W. Huntington Dr, Arcadia. March 11′ 7:30 PM or March 12″ 10:00 AM”

Let us know your thoughts on this matter: tmiller@beaconmedianews.com

Sho Tay responded to our request for comment via email:

I don’t know why you said I am “sending around Arcadia.” That was not my letter. A group of Chinese approached me after 2/22 public meeting ask me to explain to them in Chinese, and was wonder why city does not have the article in Chinese. Instead of having the City spending the money to print a Chinese version, I volunteer to do the “Translation” for them. I have no opinion on the “recommendation”, if you know of someone that willing to volunteer their time to do the “translation” please let me know. Thank you in advance. Sho

Bob Harbicht's Facebook postings are a bit obsequious
Mod: Arcadia City Council candidate Bob "Har HarHarbicht is apparently kissing up rather fiercely to various political constituencies. So much so that you can't help but begin to wonder why. Is he really just a "useful idiot" candidate that is completely dependent upon big money development, union and Realty interests, and will do anything to please them? Here are some examples from Facebook.


Mod: Bob Harbicht was in office when huge pay and benefits giveaways were presented to various city employee unions. Of course Arcadia's cops support Harbicht. He made them rich. Here are some numbers from Transparent Pasadena (link):


Mod: Apparently once was not enough.


Mod: Does this next one seem a little bit ethnocentric to you?


sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

68 comments:

  1. Of course the Arcadia Police Association supports Bob Harbicht. He has made the average police officer into a millionaire. No bad. And they get to retire at 50 and take another job to supplement their 6 figure lifetime pension. As long as we vote people like Bob Harbicht into office, we get what we deserve.

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  2. When fear runs through a community that is started by a person crying fire in a movie theater is a old political card being played to gain some sort of advantage in an election it is s shame for this type of behavior to be displayed by people who are trying to cover up facts that say other wise. The sky is not falling, property values will always cycle with a economy and of course in a heavy hitting election year up coming any your excessive safety officers CalPERS costs are on the raise once again.

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  3. I wonder how much money Har Har promised the cops in exchange for their support.

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    1. It is a bribe. One that the taxpayers have to pay.

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    2. Its a simple quid pro quo: If you support my political career, I will reward you with higher pay that comes from the taxpayers who i'm supposed to represent. That's why Bob Harbicht is being supported by the Arcadia Police Union. I can assure you its not because he's "tough on crime" or the "law and order candidate".

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    3. Congratulations to the Tattler for being mentioned on the latest full-color UUT brochure. I guess you are part of the "political militants" mentioned in the brochure because a screen shot shows that some people visited your website from the scary town of Cookeville, Tennessee.

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    4. That's another reason why we need the Sheriff's in Sierra Madre. Not only will we get better service at a cheaper price, they won't be meddling in the political affairs of our town.

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    5. Yes, what did they spend this time, $5,000? I'm moving up in the world. Tattler bashing is an election time tradition in Sierra Madre. Every two years the geese start honking to warn the dotty old dears who listen to them that free speech represents a threat to their property values. Or some such nonsense. Telling the unvarnished truth about the scoundrels running things in this part of Happy Valley upsets the powers that be mightily. To me it means I am doing the job correctly. But yeah, it is the same old stuff.

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    6. I love how that fancy and costly brochure raises the bogeyman of "out-of-town militants to try to scare Sierra Madre residents into voting to increase the UUT. And God forbid, they come from San Dimas, Monrovia and Cookesville, Tennessee of all places - hotbeds of "anti-government" activity. Pretty scary stuff. How desperate can these pro-UUT people be to have to resort to these tactics. Unbelievable even comical. What does Edward T. Garcia have against the good folks of Cookesville, Tennessee. It sounds like a town about as scary as Mayberry. The only question is whether Sierra Madre voters will see through this stuff or not?

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    7. Thank God none of them come from Pasadena.

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    8. Mod, is this campaign hit piece one of the advertisers you want us to support?

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    9. Maybe you already are.

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  4. The Sierra Madre Police are hoping that the UUT passes so that they can get salaries, benefits and pensions equivalent to what Arcadia is paying. Remember, we have to pay what Arcadia is paying if we want to remain "competitive". If another city pays their police even more that becomes the new going rate that Sierra Madre has to match. It doesn't matter that these other cities will eventually become insolvent. All that matters is we pay more and more. That's what's behind the UUT increase. And that's why it will never go go away and why it has to keep going up and up and up. I just received a 4-page full color flyer from the Yes on Measure UUT folks. The chairman is someone who I have never heard of - Edward T. Garcia. Has he ever been involved in the community other than to be the front man for the unions and others who want to raise our taxes. I love the pictures of the 4th of July parade on the first page. I hope people will see through this. I would like to know the background of Edward T. Garcia and whose funding this campaign. I don't care about the usual dupes who fall for this every year. I want to know about the groups that hope to benefit from the additional tax money. You can bet that the public employee unions are right there in the thick of things because they will be the primary beneficiaries of the money. Dig into your pockets folks and let's match the six figure salaries of Arcadia and let's make sure all of our public servants have a nice cushy retirement at our expense.

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    1. Don't worry, Edward T. Garcia will be the Manchurian candidate for Sierra Madre City Council in 2018. Bet he uses an out of town campaign manager!

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    2. Where is he getting the money for his propaganda. He and Copoccia are nothing more than fear mongers.

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    3. Sierra Madre PD has never come close to paying what Arcadia pays it's officers and has never been considered a competitive employer for public safety. After reading how people in Sierra Madre feel about their city employees, I don't know why anyone would want to work for you. Never ceases to amaze me, in good financial times no one cares what city employees make, in a financial down turn they are instantly vilified for making too much.

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  5. How much do you want to bet that even if the UUT were to pass, we will be in the exact same financial position a few years down the road? The UUT money will mostly go to raises for the public employees - perhaps Elaine can buy a Bentley to go with her Mercedes - and then their will be another clamor for additional sources of revenue so that the library can stay open and so we don't have to close the parks.

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    1. It is never enough. The police chief admitted they will add positions if the UUT passes.
      For what most of the City hall workers do, they are over paid. Taking payments at the counter requires no special skills, experience, or knowledge.

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  6. I can't tell you how important the next few weeks are for Arcadia. If those provision to control Mansionization don't get enacted and If good people like April Verlato don't get elected to the City Council, then Arcadia is lost. It went past the tipping point and literally tipped over. I would suggest that some of the people in Arcadia should do what Barry and Judy Gold did and move to Sierra Madre which will be the last best hope for the San Gabriel Valley. Literally, an island amidst a sea of demolitions and McMansions.

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  7. Bulldozer Bob will say or commit to just about anything if it will get him enough votes to get back in the "prestigious" City Council limelight and be catered and coddled to by "The Dom" and Arcadia City staff. He has no life, hobbies or interests other than telling citizens what they can and cannot do. So sad.

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  8. Long life and protection spell. Are you a business man or woman? Are you working for a company? Are you financially successful and you need a seal of protection in your life to live long to old age and be protected in your wealthy and successful life? Here is the secret temple that you can get that. So many life have been short cut by assassin and with spiritual power either by Accident of sickness because of the success of your business or your position in the company where your work and wealthy life of a person. all you need is to protect your life from enemies from bring you down or from taking your life because of your success. note that any wealthy and successful persons are bond to have enemies that are ready to take your life or bring you down to be in the position you are now. I am Dr Abumere from the alter of spiritual solution. Here you get your life seal of protection and to help you protect your business, success and wealth.

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    1. I think Dr. Abumere is working for the Harbicht campaign.

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    2. Are you sure? He may be writing the Yes On UUT mailers for Sierra Madre.

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    3. Good point. Let me read some frog entrails and find out.

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    4. Can I get what he's smoking?

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    5. Dr. Abumere is a special guest at the Kiwanis Club next week. Many will be healed.

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    6. If I bring my dog, will he be heeled?

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  9. If you think Sierra Madre has problems, vote for Hillary.

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    1. Is she running for City Council?

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  10. Funny thing: the Santa Anita Inn, where Sho is going to have his private propaganda meetings, is owned by Andy Chang, developer/owner of Continental Management Assets, who just so happens is a campaign backer of Bob Harbicht's in the amount of $2,500. Check out all the Harbicht signs on the property.

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    1. They're all tied into each other. Like fishing worms in a tin can.

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  11. So, Sho Tay is going to just give a neutral, objective translation of the recommendations for zoning code changes out of the goodness of his heart. For free! Anyone believe that?

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  12. The zoning code changes are not on the City Council agenda for March 15. Who "translated" that for these poor folks? The honorable Councilman Sho Tay?

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    1. On March 15, the City Council will consider the Planning Commission’s recommendation regarding an economic impact study of the proposed zoning code changes.

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  13. Is it true that Sho Tay's special City Council meeting has been moved to a backroom of a strip club on Arrow Highway?

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  14. 8.37 it's just like Sierra Madre city hall, the $25k or more that city hall spent on the nutural UUT full color maulers showing why they need more money. But they forgot to tell everyone that the city hall needs more money for Pension and death benifit.

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  15. Tay is the English translation expert? ouch.

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  16. This is rather entertaining on one hand .. yet on the other it is tragically sad. Has anyone noticed the amount of homes that are for sale in Arcadia? Arcadia has lost its luster for sure... and that is rather sad.

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  17. The Santa Anita Inn development project is on the City Council's agenda for April 5th. A special study session at 5pm. What a coincidence!

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  18. In "real small town city councils "in Kansas they have interpreters in every language,sign language,and Braille along with that they're sworn to be non-partisan .
    P.S. A police officer makes $18.95 an hour plus insurance .
    What would our prima donnas in blue do if that was there only offer?
    The officers that are paid $18.95 hour are the guys that rolled up to the lawn mower company and took out the mass shooter in two minutes.
    Just a thought.

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  19. I saw "Show me the property to destroy Tay"
    At the Metro Rail Gala last weekend he had happy hands and wore a crocodiles grin.
    Maybe that's why I ended up having an emergency appendectomy later on in the day due to his cloyingly sweet pandering or should that be panda-ring ?
    My bad .

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  20. The Arcadia new and old home ponzi scheme is over. The Obama Great Recession is comming. Real estate will be cheap again and there will be many less good paying jobs. I think increasing the UUT taxes for paying pensions is a UN needed decission. When is the city employees salaries and pensions going to be cut! We need to cut the fat

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    1. What does the UN have to do with this?

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    2. Read the post... UN Needed Decisions

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    3. Oops. Sorry.

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  21. Andy Chang developer/owner of Continental Management Assets, who owns the Santa Anita Inn, where Sho is going to have his private propaganda meetings bought this beautiful property in order to scrape it to the ground and build a hotel! The Santa Anita Inn will be no more!

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  22. Why must the U.S. and City of Arcadia kow tow to the rich immigrants? Why must we have to change to accommodate their ways and cultures? They should be the ones to change.

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  23. Just think, do you know of a single military family that will vote for Hillary? NO, I don't either. What do they know that others don know?

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    1. My husband, Viet Navy Veteran, voted twice for Obama and is voting for Clinton, not that this is a forum for national politics.

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  24. Is Angie Chang a legal us citizen?

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  25. These criminals want to change our culture to be like the very one they fled from ! They are bringing corruption ,graft and gross dishonesty. But don't worry,even when convicted there is no significant penalty - like deportation.

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    1. 11:38 I didn't realize Mr. Harbicht or Mrs. Chang were from a different culture . Could you enlighten me? Or is it just your bigoted hallucinations?

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    2. Oh dear. The PC squad is here.

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    3. Bulldozer Bob IS from another culture. The McMansion culture. He is not of the Arcadia world.

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  26. To the YES on the UUT ballot measure. The Google numbers referenced in your scare tactics about out of towners who are trying to influence the election, the numbers quoted are blog hits. People from all over the world read the blog.Martin knows this. These are fear tactics, just like the NO on Measure V used.

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    1. Who doesn't read The Tattler?

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  27. Here's a great suggestion:

    "... Long ago, the federal government and most corporations began moving to defined-contribution plans, e.g., TSP and 401(k)s. Let the city manager and all employees use a portion of their salaries to fund their own retirement in a tax-deferred 401k plan. The city can kick in a 5% match... " http://www.arcadiaweekly.com/opinion/dear-editor-response-to-measure-a-makes-waves/#comments

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    1. Good point. Every Fed employee hired after 1/1/1983 was put on a 401(k) type plan.

      33 years later & Cali still has Platinum Pensions.

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  28. We have a two councilmen (Tay and Chandler) who want to scare our residents into thinking that the rezoning will make us lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in our property values! Harbicht is in the same camp with development!

    The KPCC (89.3, local) radio station website (link below) published a story about this issue and it said, “City Council member Sho Tay said some people opposed to bigger homes might feel differently if they understood their purpose for these residents. Tay said many Asian families want bigger homes because they live with extended family, like parents and in-laws, under one roof.
    It's a lack of understanding, Tay said. I try to explain to people - you don’t want to kick them out your house and send them to an old folks' home.”
    http://www.scpr.org/…/arcadia-residents-battle-over-mansio…/

    I took care of both of my parents before they passed away. I took care of them in our home, where they lived from 1967, until their passing in 2011 and 2013. We didn't put them in an ''old folks home" and we didn't need a bigger house to care for them. The notion of having a "bigger home" because some, want to live with their extended families, does not mean building a home that rivals a motel.

    The population of Arcadia is 60% Asian, which means that 40% are from other cultures/ethnicities. The United States and the City of Arcadia, was built on a melting pot of foreigners (and cultures) who came together to better our community and each other. Families come here to raise their children, afford them the opportunity to attend great schools and live cohesively. Mr. Tay makes it clear, that Arcadia needs to "change" to accommodate a specific group of residents in the city. We can all live here and work together to build relationships the way America and Arcadia was meant to be, not turn it into another country.

    Mr. Tay says he doesn't have anything to do with the flyers; “I don’t know why you say I am sending around Arcadia.” However, the flyers depict HIS name and title in the event. Council Member Tay said “instead of having the City spending the money to print Chinese version, I volunteer to do the ‘Translation’ for them.” My question would be, is he offering a translator for English-only speakers at his “(Private event)”?

    The flyer says “most realtors estimate that the property value will drop up to 30%.” Really? Who are MOST of these realtors? I have spoken to trusted realtors in Arcadia, who have assured me, property values will NOT “drop” if the Zoning Review Committee Recommendations are approved.
    All the cities surrounding Arcadia have zoning codes in place and their property values have not depreciated. Why would ours?

    Although Mr. Tay claims he has nothing to do with the “flyers” being circulated, the flyers are clear that the event is being presented by Mr. Tay. “Please attend a presentation given by City Council, Sho Tay. (Private event) At Santa Anita Inn. 130 W Huntington Dr, Arcadia. March 11’7:30 PM or March 12” 10:00 AM” [sic].

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  29. DON'T LET HARBICHT, CHANDLER AND TAY SCARE YOU. THEY ARE WRONG !!!!

    The only thing that may fall as a result of less mansionization is the amount of PROFIT that developers, investors and realtors will make on some new home projects. That's right NO ONE WILL LOSE MONEY. A few may make LESS PROFIT because home sizes may be reduced from 7,000 sf to 5500 sf on the same lot. The speculators and realtors, as well as the current home owner, will still make A LOT OF MONEY on every deal.

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  30. Arcadia is facing an EX-LAX moment -

    Time flush away Harbicht, Chandler and Tay.

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  31. Tay is a proven LIAR. So don't listen to a word he says or denies.

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  32. Nice to once again see Mayor Kovacic teach old Sho between right and wrong like he did last night. Laid into him pretty good about Tays mistake of putting in his flier how the meeting last night was to decide on the proposed plan update. It's hilarious to see all the completely misinformed people speak at the council meeting. Good job Sho getting them to show up,but can you atleast comprehend and explain the meeting agenda to your followers?

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  33. In the Arcadia Community News Spring 2016 newsletter, it says "The City Council is scheduled to consider the recommendations on March 15, 2016." With respect to City Council meetings alone, from the Arcadia website: "At each regular meeting, time is reserved for those in the audience who wish to address the City Council on any matter." Anyone who spoke at the meeting was perfectly within their right.

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  34. Well, when you read the agenda for the meeting, available online and as a handout at the CC meeting, it's pretty clear what the council planned to discuss.. Here's the description from both online agenda and from the handout at the meeting:

    a. Consideration of the Planning Commission recommendation to authorize an economic impact study related to recommended changes to the City's single- family residential zoning regulations. and discussion of the process to consider those changes.
    Recommended Action: Do not pursue Economic Study and provide direction on process for reviewing zoning changes.

    So, all of the people that Tay managed to show up and blab at the podium regarding nothing to do with the actual agenda item were dead wrong.
    They made it pretty clear at the meeting that the topic was the economic impact. Tay is confused and so are his buddies.

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  35. You fail to address how the City Newsletter - mailed to all residents - indicates that the Council was to consider the ZRC Recommendations. Besides, anyone can address the City Council on any matter at any regular meeting. There was no confusion on the part of anyone who spoke at the meeting.

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