Friday, March 25, 2016

Could This Be The One And Only 2016 Election Postcard So Far That Was Created By Actual Sierra Madreans?


There have been quite a few postcards in this election to date, but it appears that the only one that was put together and mailed out by actual Sierra Madre residents is the example we've posted here today.

There are those postcards and mailers printed up by the Sierra Madre Police Association, but they were taken from prefab designs that get used for various purposes by cop unions all over the state. Besides, not only do none of the members of the SMPA actually live in this town, a large portion of them no longer even work here.

Of course, the "Yes On Measure UUT" materials being received in the mail by residents on a near daily basis are also not of Sierra Madre origin. Rather that baloney is being processed by the angry and quite secretive Pasadena political consultant John Capoccia and John Harabedian apparently hired so that they could "win at any cost."

That cost has now been estimated as closing in on $30,000, and counting.

You really do have to wonder what all of this is worth to some of the out-of-town contributors to the 66% utility tax increase campaign. Special favors at City Hall, perhaps?

The main text of the above postcard was taken from an editorial the Pasadena Star News published last week. The editorial board of that paper urgently recommended a NO vote on Measure UUT, and for some very good reasons. If you haven't read this editorial yet, here it is in its entirety.


You can link back to the PSN editorial in its original on-line setting by clicking here. That will also enable you to read the three reader comments left there as well. All of them written by a Pasadena Attorney named Mark Davis.

How many thousands of dollars are needed to defeat a write-in City Council candidate in Sierra Madre?
One indication of just how thoroughly unhinged John Capoccia, John Harabedian and various other colorful yet eccentric "Yes On Measure UUT" personalities are over Barry Gold's write-in candidacy is the amount of money, time and effort they've committed in their attempts to defeat him. On one day alone four separate articles (none of them true, of course), were posted on various Yes On Measure UUT sites about the write-in candidate.

When Barry Gold attempted to reply to the slurs directed at him on the Yes On Measure UUT Facebook page, he was blocked and censored. A stone cold indication of the control freak atmosphere driving the "Yes" campaign.

Barry then tried to contact Yes On Measure UUT headman Ed Garcia (Yes on Measure UUT Campaign Committee, FPPC# 1382371, 117 E Grandview Ave, Sierra Madre, CA), but Mr. Yes refused to take or even acknowledge his calls. Barry and Ed had served together on the UUT Oversight Committee together, and apparently got along quite nicely.

Some fellow, that Ed Garcia. My guess is that he received orders not to reply from his almost always angry Pasadena master, and was completely obedient in that regard. Apparently Ed has been told by this perma-irked one man political machine that if he behaves himself he'll get to be a City Councilman in 2018.

Have you begun to detect a pattern here? Apparently that is the going rate for useful idiots this year.

As for all those well-funded personal attacks, bigotry and (why beat around the bush?) bald-faced lies being thrown at him? Barry Gold had this to say in one of his near nightly e-mails to his supporters.


The more you get to know Barry Gold, the more you have to respect him.

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80 comments:

  1. Where are on earth is the YesOn UUT campaign getting $30,000 to carpet bomb us with mailers?

    Police unions, developers, Realtors or all of the above? That would explain it.

    Just wait 'til the McMansion plans start flooding in! We'll be known as Northwest Arcadia.

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    1. If the Pro-UUT took all the money that they were spending on mailers to us every couple of days and gave it to the City, it would solve any budget crisis they are worried about. Police Unions always want higher taxes. They would make it a 20% tax if they could.

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    2. $30,000 is an investment. Higher taxes means more money for city employees. Infrastructure be damned.

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    3. it's the same BS with the same lame arguement, why does the city need marketing?

      first issue of debt is the pension debt, deal with that and save $ by contracting out with the Sheriff's full time

      and then present why we need to raise our own taxes but as long as Calpers is our pension system I'll vote NO on anything and everything

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    4. the Yes UUT social media is the same one sided forum that was predominant with the Measure V campaign.

      at least the NO will allow of contrary opinions and statements

      the Yes social media deletes and doesn't print except for it's agenda

      surprise, it's run by own of town interests just like Measure V was

      that "civility" crowd is certainly two faced

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  2. The Sierra Madre people I know - like my new friend Barry Gold - are too kind and decent to engage in the nastiness and fibs engaged in by the Yes campaign. That explains why the mayor had to find out of towners to run his fact free smear campaign. The Star News correctly saw through the nastiness and grasped the facts. Vote NO.

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    1. Are we seriously talking about nastiness and fibs engaged in by the Yes campaign on the comments section of the Tattler? The platform that utilizes nicknames like Napoleon Cheesecake, etc, to argue against the Yes campaign?

      It's one thing to mock civility, as the Tattler regularly does. But what's really amazing is the recent trend of commenters try to twist themselves into knots to say the other party is uncivil, and their party is the party of unicorns and rainbows.

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    2. Actually the Tattler mocks false civility. The kind we are seeing from the Yes On UUT people. I take it you don't like being laughed at.

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    3. 8:29 - in case you are not aware, anti-semitism is not civil.

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    4. Right. Ok. So, at least in this section of the comment thread, we're going with the moral superiority of straight-up-uncivil over what is perceived as false civility. Got it.

      I am laughing at all this. I assume all of you enjoy being on the receiving end of that laughter. You are welcome!

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    5. OK chucklehead, here's your chance to take a stand for what you believe. Exactly what is your definition of civility? And why is discussing politics on a political blog not civil? I mean, if you don;t like politics, why would you come here looking for stories on flower shows?

      Take your time.

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    6. Civility is checking your brain at the door, accepting the city manager's bogus analysis, and voting for whatever tax increase she put in front of you. You know, like mayor Cappoccia did.

      Your reward for being civil is you get to sip cheap Chardonnay with city gentry like Carol C and Johnnie B. Doesn't that sound awesome!

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  3. I can't stop chuckling over that police union flier. Do we even have a police dog?

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    1. We'll have police dogs when we sign up with LA Sheriff's Dept. AND a real Detectives Bureau that will investigate crimes!

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    2. Barry Gold needs to win this election. Everybody needs to tell 10 they know to write in Barry's name. In between Capoccia and Harabedian, Harabedian would be far worse for this city. He's too ambitious for higher office to carry about the hoi poloi.

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    3. Front page of the Star News this mentions mentions the big donation to Bob Harbicht's campaign for City Council in Arcadia from one particular developer who has two current project going in Arcadia and has a very big one he's trying to get approval for. And then Harbicht is quoted in the article that no one can "buy his vote". He's already bought and paid for by developers which is why Arcadia is being ruined. Courtney Thompkins is a great Star News reporter. Thanks to Ms. Thompkins for connecting the dots and following the money which didn't come directly from the developer (too obvious) but through some outside pac to disguise where it was coming from. Harbicht needs to be defeated.

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    4. So Ed Garcia, the head of the Yes on UUT campaign won't even respond to Barry Gold - these totalitarians won't tolerate another point of view and won't even give Barry the chance to explain to them his very reasonable position in regards to the UUT.

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    5. I hope all good people in Sierra Madre will see through the police union once again meddling in local politics. They will support every tax everywhere and all the unions collaborate with one another. All they want is higher and higher pay, benefits and pensions and every lower retirement ages. People need to wake up to their tactics. The irony is that they say in both of their recent mailings that they will "be there for us". Well, they certainly haven't been as half the force has left and we were forced to go hat in hand to Arcadia and then the Sheriff's Department for help. Yea, you were certainly there for us. I say good riddance to this union. That's another advantage of the Sheriff's Dept. We don't have to pay them more and more so that they use our own money against us to advocate for higher and higher taxes.

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    6. Ed Garcia won't respond because he knows he has a losing argument.

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    7. Ed needs to pay more taxes.

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    8. When you do your write-in for Barry Gold, make sure you fill in the bubble to the right. Also, if you don't vote for Harabedian or Capoccia, it will at least send them a message. Just leave their bubbles blank.

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    9. 9:59 - Barry better stick to his word. He's only lived here 4 years but at least he is only getting involved because he sees a radical movement to change the city. If he had been here during Measure V he'd seen this before but we elected two to this current Council who said they'd vote NO on the UUT or control it but flip flopped - if they weren't clueless before they are now.

      I would leave Harabedian or Capoccian blank just to send a message.

      remember Goss who came in last and since he had no opposition he was elected with the support of those that got us into all of this mess and his election which should have been embarassing to him instead he took it as support

      only in Sierra Madre

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    10. Don't vote for Harabedian. He is clearly in bed with the police unions and will vote in favor of anything the union asks for. That's the trade off for their political support.

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  4. It's a dirty group pushing for a yes vote on the UUT. The yes voters want 10% plus for ever with no sunset clause, no incentive for reducing expenses. Over the years it is difficult being a good neighbor to such greed and lying. But we try, agin and agin. So many of the clubs in town don't get a chance to hear the truth, they believe the same prevaricators year after year.

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    1. They flatter and cajole the simple-minded. Tell them how wonderful and special they are to live in this town. Face it, all most of that silly bunch really want is a pat on the head and to be told that everybody likes them because they're nice.

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    2. don't you just appreciate out of town consultants, residents, realtors and salespeople (aka the Athens Garbage Rep) all sticking their nose and $$ to push agendas or issues that are clearly being opposed and the city then spends our tax dollars on selling us something again and again and again

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    3. strange that we elect our neighbors and they promise to do one thing and then they get on the Council and do another because all of a sudden they know more or bamboozled us with slick talk to get elected cause it's an ego thing

      being on the Council is nothing more than being on a Homeowners Association and that is how Council members should be treated, not as ooooooohhhhh I'm a Councilmember or lol "the Mayor of Sierra Madre"

      the sooner we adjust the Council to being a HOA and having the ability to fire a City Manager at will and fix the pension debt, the better the city will be off and protect it's charm

      might as turn into Arcadia cause that is where we are headed with this type of lack of leadership on the Council

      if this Council was managing a business that sold a product that was defective they'd raise price and try to convince us that raising the price (taxes) will allow them to fix the defective project

      local politicians are a hoot

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  5. Sierra Madre voters are now at the mercy of professional 'honey sucker's' who make a living out of twisting lies to 'truths' as per their employment contract so vote 'NO on UUT'.

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    1. where you been? this whole debacle started when we had pipes burst, a couple of utility company lawyers who weaseled their way onto the Council (cause the "loved" the city) and when the pipes burst they called an emergency and started pushing on the spot for a higher UUT and were covering up all the negative water bond ratings and even tried to ramrod a UUT on the spot so they could seek matching grants etc to build a new 7 million dollar library

      the city and the same supporters never deviated from their misinformation and the fact that the UUT from it's inception was basically a complete fabrication and opportunistic for development interests

      back with the Measure V, it was marketed by outside interests contrary to what was in the community's best interest

      it's the same with the UUT and it's been a sieve of misinformation

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  6. 6:33, fact is we did have a rescue dog in town but the city manager told them to get it out of the station. What a story that must be.

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    1. Elaine was afraid the dog wouldn't answer to her. All the other dogs at city hall do.

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    2. I think she has a whistle.

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    3. Don't be too hard on Elaine, she had a tough day yesterday. She had to testify in court on the Hildreth matter.

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    4. for 200K a year and what we are receiving in value and being screwed over with her lifetime pension...she can have a rough day everyday and twice on Sunday

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    5. Actually, Elaine has been summoned to testify, and will be on the Stand in Court on Monday, 9:00 am Burbank Court Building, on Olive Avenue, Department A.

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    6. Can the public attend?

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    7. Sure. Tell the City Mgr. The Tattler sent you.

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  7. 7:29, your funny post is true.

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  8. On April 12 we have a choice. More of the same or write in Barry Gold. Simple.

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  9. TeaPac is in the house, too.

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    1. Q) what do TeaPac and Martin Truitt have in common?
      A) they both come from Pasadena and like to stick their noses into places they don't belong.

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  10. I hope the irony of a story about the only "Sierra Madrean created poscard" that relies so prominently on a NON Sierra Madrean newspaper isn't lost on the good readers here...

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    1. There is no Sierra Madre newspaper anymore. Susan Henderson of the Mtn Views News moved to Los Angeles.

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    2. maybe since Susan is moving beyond SM, she might stop being a doormat for the City Manager - she can replace the legal notices with real advertising and allow for actual discourse in the paper. She finally printed an unedited opinion contrary to the selling points of the SM City Council and City Manager.

      in the past Susan might print a editorial or letter but she'd refute it with her own editorials or drown it out with city press releases

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    3. Susan at least lived in the town before. Now she's gone so probably doesn't care as much as before.

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  11. The NO postcard should also point out that the largest debt in the city isn't the PD but the Calpers debt and what that exactly means to the city today and in the future

    I would hope that once residents understand that raising their own taxes doesn't do anything for the PD, library or whatever, it goes to service debt and the main debt is a pension plan that irritates and irks taxpayers.

    Seriously, we have people in SM that want to pay one of the highest utility tax rates in CA and it isn't to help the city or residents, but so that city executives and librarians can retire at 55 at almost a full salary?

    really?

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  12. I thought Ed Garcias' name was going to be changed to Napolean Cheesecake. That name makes me Salivate for a NO VOTE.

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  13. It's a shame that a conscientious and honorable guy like Barry is treated with such disrespect here. A shame, but not a surprise.

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  14. I just posted a message on the Yes On UUT Face Book page agreeing that the library should not, and can not be closed. They immediately removed it.

    I still am available to meet with them at any time to discuss the issues and tell them what I believe in. That way they can report accurately what I would do if elected to the city council.
    Barry Gold

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    1. They're afraid of you because you speak the truth.

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    2. the Yes campaign is certainly bratty

      when the city is selling us something my screwed over radar goes up on full alert

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    3. I'd be okay with the library closing and if you are elected and it makes financial and operational sense to contract out the library and you choose to make it a hokey issue about being a city provided service damn the cost, well then nothing changes with you being elected. sure I enjoy the library and would like it to remain but it's a significant cost burden to the city and used by a narrow resident base.

      it's a debt drain, it's nice to have but I can go to Pasadena or we can seek being a branch of the county or Pasadena or even Arcadia.

      we don't know until we investigate but to automatically be closed minded on the library, I'm sorry Mr. Gold but you haven't lived here long enough to make decisions just cause you think it's so

      I respect the idea of keeping the library and making it work but totally opposed to paying a librarian over 100k a year, she retires at a young age and we hire her back ?

      deal with the primary issue, the pension debt

      I'm still reluctant to cast my support to someone who has only lived here 4 years but after electing some of what we already have and have had I ask?

      why not?

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    4. Barry Gold is a true gentleman. The reason he's so passionate is because he used to live in Arcadia and knows what can happen to a city. Its like the people who fled those communist countries and came to America. You won't find bigger patriots then them because they know what can happen. We have something special in Sierra Madre and I don't want to lose it because John Harabedian wants to position himself to run for higher office. Barry Gold has no further ambition other than to represent the good residents of Sierra Madre to the best of his ability. Being on the City Council is not a stepping stone for Barry Gold or part of some bigger plan.

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    5. If you don't click "like" on the page on Facebook, I don't think you are part of its community. If you aren't part of the community, I'm pretty sure your comments will be automatically deleted, by a bot, not a person.

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  15. By the way, Ed Garcia is a good man. I do not believe for a second that he is part of the nastiness we have seen or is yet to come. He believes that he is doing what is in the best interest of Sierra Madre by supporting Measure UUT. I respect that and disagree.

    That is why I am running for city council, so we have a choice. If you want the sheriff so we can save a lot of money, cut more costs, and have a UUT with a sunset clause, then write in my name on the ballot and remember to fill in the bubble on the Absentee Ballots.

    Barry

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    1. Yes, but Ed is slamming you by name on a Facebook page and then refusing you the right of a reply. Not what a good man should be doing.

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    2. Makes you wonder who really controls the "yes" Facebook. You're running a civil campaign, Mr. Gold. Keep it up.

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    3. What is Garcia afraid of? A conversation about the issues?

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    4. Be careful Barry, they are saving their big guns for just before Election Day. You are going to be likened to the Devil incarnate.

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    5. If Edward T. Garcia is "chairman" of the Yes on UUT campaign (and not Martin of Pasadena), when will Garcia condemn the HATE the Yes campaign has put out against Barry Gold and anyone who says No to 66% tax increase?

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    6. 1:56 - the Yes on MUUT campaign is already being perceived as bullies by a lot of people in town. What you describe would only confirm that.

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    7. Barry. Who cares and that makes me nervous about voting for you. Quit playing political nice.

      From what I understand, Mr. Garcia lives out of town? Right? If so, he needs to butt out and quit marketing a one sided misinformational campaign to sell us on a tax which you support and twice residents have voted down.

      What part of NO don't you understand? Twice isn't enough?

      I promised myself I'd never vote again for someone who hasn't lived in the city for at least 10 years. You position on supporting the UUT at any level despite it being voted down twice by residents who have lived here longer than you, sort of makes me question everyone running.

      I will never vote for another lawyer unless it's like a Kurt Zimmerman and never vote anyone related to or associated with utility companies, commercial banking, construction or the real estate industry.

      Ed may be a nice guy but he's sort of a jack axe meddling in SM when he's not a resident or he's pushing a mailer / website that peddles misinformation, outright lies and contrary to the will of the people.

      If you support the UUT at any level and won't deal with the pension debt, then what's the point voting for you until you've lived here another 6 years?

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    8. Garcia lives in Sierra Madre. His master's voice comes from Pasadena.

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    9. my apology - I thought Garcia lived in Pasadena.

      so it's worse, he lives in the city and wants to control discourse and spreads misinformation for what reason? cause he's a great guy and a swell neighbor?

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    10. Garcia wants to be a pol. This is his training in how to be a jerk.

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    11. 2:25PM I believe you've made 3 posts all of which seem to be somewhat negative. Garcia spreads his message, rightfully or wrongfully, because he wants his issue to win. Doesn't make him a total ogre. The pension debt can only be worked on if the PD is gone. A UUT may be necessary in the future as SM has little source of revenue. As I understand it, Mr. Gold has taken no donations. He is trying to run a clean campaign, which is rather refreshing. Do you want him to lie? Do you want him to take donations so he can put out fancy mailers? He has often given his phone number. Have you called him? Or do you really want answers?

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  16. I read that in Santa Barbara county 10% of every tax dollar covers unfunded pension debt and it keeps mounting. There is a growing push back against the debt and irrational plans (allowing an able bodied person to retire after 20 years at full salary) and that taxpayers are on the hook regardless

    I wonder what percent of our city budget and revenue has to be allocated to pension debt?

    Those supporting Yes on the UUT might balk at finding out the reality that it's supposed to be about solving the city budget issues except the main one - the pension debt.

    I'd like the city to go bankrupt just to wipe out all the pension debt and those that are currently retired and can go back to work - welcome to the real world.

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    1. The pension debt will not be wiped out by the city going bankrupt.

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    2. then how?

      people need to know that all the UUT shrills and in general tax hikes are because cities and public agencies created a pension plan that requires never ending and increasing funding

      the next Council should inquire to other cities to sue Calpers and force their hand

      how doe we get rid of the Calpers debt? it's just a union agency - it hasn't any real power

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    3. 2:57P No it won't. It will be there until it's paid. If you want to restructure then you have to pay. If not, the court will still make you pay it.

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    4. That's the problem. CalPERS doesn't just own 10s of millions of this city's tax dollars, it also has its tentacles wrapped around our municipal heart. And not just Sierra Madre, but hundreds of cities around the state. It is a huge financial crisis. Why the current City Council has refused to discuss this troubles me. They are asking for us to vote for a tax hike under false pretenses.

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  17. I am not a Facebook member, how can I riew what is going on without signing up?

    Thank you.

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    1. You have to sign up. You could try googling. Facebook Yes on UUT committe. It might bring it up and you can read some of it.

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    2. www.Facebook.com/NoOnUUT is pretty good, too.

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  18. Who would you trust more on the City Council with the issue of overdevelopment? Barry or either of the two Johns?

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    1. I've learned my lesson, I don't trust any body running, they need to prove it

      I find it troublesome that someone that has only lived here 4 years and despite two votes against the UUT, he moves into town and tells us we were and are wrong

      so, if the public votes NO, will Barry try to sell us a UUT for the 4th time?

      I thought we were safe with the two women on the Council but they caved on the UUT instead of bucking up and dealing with the real issue, spending and an out of control city pension plan that is gutting the city

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    2. When it comes to preserving Sierra Madre, there is no better candidate than Barry Gold. He was involved with the Preserve Sierra Madre coalition from the beginning and there is nobody in this city who attended and spoke up at more Planning Commission and City Council meetings than Barry Gold. He supported all the changes that were made that curtailed over-development in Sierra Madre and literally saved the city from turning into Arcadia. John Capoccia has been right there too. The candidate with a history of voting the wrong way is John Harabedian.

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  19. 2:15PM Do you think you should only be interested if you've lived here 20 years. Mr. Gold has attended CC for most of the years he's been here. He has gone to Planning Commission meetings. He has spoken up for what he feels is right. He belongs to Preserve and has been active with them. He voted against the recent UUT in committee. He has been open about it. He isn't against the UUT, he's against this one. There is no sunset clause and he feels the city should look for more cuts. He does not recommend that the library be cut. What else do you need to know?

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    1. Barry Gold's position on the issues is the most reasonable and the most logical. Contact him and offer to help out in his campaign. He needs a strong ground game. He just might pull off one of the biggest political upsets ever seen in Sierra Madre.

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  20. 2:28 The guy who posted 3 times was our troll for the day. I liked the way he stumbled from point to point, The YES crowd usually make nonsense argument but they don't sound like idiots. Whole tack for Capoccia and the boys.

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