Thursday, March 10, 2016

The Remaining Members Of The Sierra Madre Police Department Want You To Raise Your Utility Taxes

You may have received some literature in the mail yesterday from the Sierra Madre Police Association. It wasn't from the Police Department itself because that would not have been legal. Government agencies are not allowed to sing for their supper quite like that. Rather it is from the police union and apparently they dug pretty deep into their funds to send this stuff out. This mailing was hardly made up of paper run off on the office Xerox.

And as you can see from the quote from Officer Ken Berry, the Sierra Madre Police Association really does love and care for you. Except when half of its members quit and go elsewhere for more dough. Then the depth of their caring isn't quite as deep as claimed by the President of the Sierra Madre Police Association.

Here is the rest of Ken Berry's pitch.


Personally I'd think a Police Department that is only half-staffed due to so many of its members quitting on this town would represent a far bigger threat to the "welfare of our homes, our loved ones and our families" than bringing in the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department. And for the SMPA to claim that they are "vital to the safety and security of you and your loved ones" when they can't even muster up enough cops to patrol the city's streets after sundown? That really is a bit of a stretch.

The big question is can you really depend on these guys? Especially after so many have left this city that they can't even perform the most basic 24/7 responsibilities of a police department without the aid of the far better equipped LA County Sheriffs?

They must think most Sierra Madrean's are not all that smart.

Preserve Sierra Madre's e-mail yesterday

Two big events are coming up on the city election calendar, with one of them being mere hours from this typing. Here is what they had to say:

Dear Supporters:
As we all know, there will be an important election in Sierra Madre on April 12, 2016.  There are three candidates running for two positions on the City Council: Mayor John Capoccia, Councilman John Harabedian, and Barry Gold running as a write-in candidate.

In keeping with our previous policy from the last election, Preserve Sierra Madre will not be making an endorsement in this election. However, we care deeply about preserving our "village of the foothills" and hope that the good citizens of Sierra Madre elect the two candidates who would most support our philosophy. That being said, there are many other important issues facing Sierra Madre including the Utility Users Tax. As with the selection of City Council candidates, we will not be making a recommendation with regard to the Utility Users Tax either and everyone should decide for themselves the impact on preservation with its passage or denial.

There are two upcoming candidate forums that you may want to attend. As many of you know, we have identified a possible housing project at Mater Dolorosa as one of the biggest threats facing Sierra Madre over the next few years.  We also want to make sure that whoever is elected will uphold the new and improved General Plan and the updates that continue to be made to the Municipal Code to bring it in line with the General Plan.

The next candidates forums are as follows:

Sierra Madre Woman's Club
Thursday, March 10th from 5:30 - 7:30 pm
626-355-4379

Kiwanis Club
March 15th at 11:30 am
626-355-0728

We would encourage you to attend one or both of these forums so that you can make an informed decision as to who will best represent you over the next few years.

Thank you for your support.

Steering Committee
Preserve Sierra Madre

Ask yourself this. Out of those three candidates, which is the one that you think would be the most steadfast in helping to defend this town from mansionization? You might want to get out to these events and let your feelings about this matter be known.

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68 comments:

  1. Was the postcard signed:
    Love,
    Your loyal, day-time only, half-sized police force that boasts only 11 members, including command cops and non-sworn dispatchers?

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    1. An often forgotten benefit of contracting with the Sheriff's Department, in addition to better service at a lower cost, is that you don't have their union meddling in local politics or suing the city because they didn't get the pay increase they wanted. The union will also support candidates that may be hostile to the best interests of 99% of the Sierra Madre residents, but if a candidate supports pay raises for the police, the union will help get that candidate get elected. Anything the police union is in favor of, I vote against. I used to be tricked into voting for the candidate the union supported when they told us a certain candidate was "tough on crime" or the "law and order" candidate supported by the police union, the Chief of Police society or some such group. Now I know better. The only reason those groups ever support a candidate or some tax is because they hope to benefit financially. Thankfully more and more people are waking up to that fact.

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    2. Don't forget too that when you contract with the Sheriff's Department, the county is on the hook for any lawsuits for police mistakes.

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    3. Police supporting candidates and tax increases help to explain the Platinum Pensions - it takes 20 years for the pension but the Council member is usually only there for 4 or 8 years. When the money runs out, the current council blames the past leadership, raises taxes and the spending goes up and up.

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    4. is this the same union that loves the city so much that it has cost us millions in lawsuits?

      how about instructing it's senior officers not to pad their hours with overtime to boost their pensions

      yeah, we can trust the union to be honest with us can't we?

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    5. I thought it was illegal for the police to campaign for or endorse a ballot measure while in uniform.

      What is up with all the cops in uniform in the mailer.?

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    6. I thought it was illegal for the police to campaign for or endorse a ballot measure while in uniform.

      What is up with all the cops in uniform in the mailer.?

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  2. You can't make this stuff upMarch 10, 2016 at 5:53 AM

    Officer Berry is the friendly face of SMPD? After all those years of giving the stink eye to local soccer moms?

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    1. He really is a sourpuss.

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    2. We don't have Soccer Mom's in Sierra Madre we have to go outside our little hamlet to have the A(ll)Y(our)S(aturdays)O(ver) experience in Arcadia ... Once again outside cities and organizations are getting our money .
      FYI my daughters club team was looking for a permanent field for practice and games they were offering $6500.00 a year for field maintance and lighting ,Clairmont won.
      Unfortunately for club soccer we don't have the luxury of cities paying for our fields we have to depend on family support in the form of dues and other fees .
      No city help for us .

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  3. The picture of the cop next to Berry's quote isn't Berry.

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  4. People have all ready made up their minds so why do I bother? The point is we will always be training rookies. We train them and the good ones get better paying jobs and we're stuck with the officers that when startled shoot the person in the back, don't forget that he is still on th SMPD. Will he qualify for the LASD who knows, but he would be given a chance if we go with the Sheriffs Department.

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  5. I don't think any of the pictures are of SMPD officers.

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    1. I think they used models. Ours can;t smile like that.

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    2. I heard Harabedian asked why the patches were on the officers uniforms?

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    3. They paid a fee to Getty Images .

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  6. Glad to see more voting residents are waking up to see the future does not include any remnants of the old SMPD money sucking city hall enforcers.

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  7. I wish our police department would do what Preserve Sierra Madre is doing - and that is staying out of politics. The same way Preserve Sierra Madre only focuses on over-development issues, our police officers should focus on stopping crime. They spend too much time on union activities and coming up with ways to scare the citizens into voting themselves another tax increase.

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    1. The Sierra Madre Police Union most likely had enough $$ in it's PAC account to fund a postcard mailing (or two).

      Can't blame them. It's a last gasp effort for SMPD to survive. If it doesn't, those 11 officers left will need to apply to LA Sheriff Dept. or elsewhere. Most likely, the Chief, the Captain and both Sgts. will retire with 20+ years.

      That leaves, what, maybe 4-5 street cops (if that) to place to another agency.

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    2. Word on the streets is at least 2 more SMPD will leave at the end of the month. They are firing themselves.

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    3. I'm still voting NO

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  8. I wonder how many people are dumb enough to believe the stuff the SMPA is putting out.

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    1. Many, Ask Judy Webb-Martin.

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    2. Life is too short for that.

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  9. Sierra Madre was SAFER last night! I was coming back from a conference last night and at 7:45 p.m. I drove up Santa Anita on my way into town via Grand View. I thought why not see if the Sheriff were closing the gate to Chantry Flat at the scheduled time of 8 p.m. If I had to wait 15 minutes to find out, not a problem.

    Well, I didn't have to wait. Instead I got to meet two Sheriff, in two patrol cars, who were there, ingress side of the gate closed, waiting until 8 p.m. to be sure no one tried to enter when they would then close and lock the egress side of the gate. I introduced myself to the officer who got out to see what I was interested in. I shared with him the history of the gate closure for neighborhood and city-wide safety and thanked him for being in our city.

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  10. The NO statement on the truth of the matter of the inadequacy of the 10% UUT needs to hit the streets.

    Lies, more lies and damn lies is all we are getting from the city and the PD!

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    1. your not surprised are you? the city has been lying about the UUT since day one.

      first it was about the water infrastructure. then it was about water bonds and now it's about the PD and library

      in the real world, a business manager who spreads misinformation would be fired

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  11. I want to thank the SMPD for doing such a grand and caring job in Sierra Madre. In fact they care so much about our town that we now have to have two different police agencies patrolling. Wow, thanks for nothing, SMPD.

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  12. Don't you just love it when a group can't make a reasoned argument for why they should be paid more of our tax dollars, they have to drag out the injured child to tug at the heart strings? Give me a break!

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    1. Back during the original UUT hike election the SMPOA sent out postcards with teddy bears dressed like police.

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  13. I got 5 of those in the mail, yesterday. One for a dead man who will probably vote yes on UUT. They aren't postcards. Tri-fold glossy, printed on both sides with no recognizeable people on it.

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  14. KPCC has a story up about mans onization in Arcadia. Sho Tay says they exist because families don't want to put their old folks in homes.
    http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/03/09/58367/arcadia-residents-battle-over-mansionization/

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    1. If they has smaller homes they would be closer to them.

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  15. The head of the Sierra madre snake is the Sierra madre council and city manager which must be terminated.

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    1. Seems a little overstated.

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    2. We think you hit it right on topic!

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  16. I'm just waiting to get something in the mail showing old people in wheelchairs having their oxygen tanks disconnected and being pushed over a cliff due to the City cutting services. This is so bad. I am telling everyone to VOTE NO!!!!

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  17. The back of my yes on UUT mailer has a spread about The Tattler. Seems you are "out of town anti-government political militants from places like San Dimas,Monrovia ,and even as far as Cookeville TN." trying to cripple small cities etc........ To long to quote. The few of you who actually live here will see it in the mail.

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    1. Just because we think Elaine is a hottie doesn't make us militant extremists.

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    2. 11:29 call me a gold digger, but I love me some civil servants who drive Benz's.

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    3. Wonder if the YES mailer talks about the out-of-town campaign manager or the out-of-town members of the Sierra Madre PD who want you to give them a raise?

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    4. Can I be an out-of-town anti-government political militant too? I live in Pasadena.

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    5. Pasadena former Mayor Bogaard? Is that you?

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  18. Check your tattler email mod.

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  19. No Name Calling Mr. Mayor!March 10, 2016 at 10:54 AM

    I am proud that the No on UUT has not engaged in any of the base name calling being resorted to by the Yes on UUT crowd. That name calling is unfortunate, and diminishes our community.

    We should continue to deal with the facts. In particular, the city's admission that replacing the depleted SMPD with the Sheriff will save at a minimum $3.6 million over the next eight years. That figure rises to $4.8 million if the unnecessary "Public Safety Director" position - which pays $150k a year - is eliminated.

    In deciding to vote, ask yourself this: Would you rather have (i) SMPD, or (ii) the sheriff and a stack of 3.6 million one dollar bills?

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    1. So sorry that both the POA AND the Preserve Sierra Madre got into the fray. I am so disappointed that the Preserve group chose to make this a campaign issue, despite the carefully worded letter, we all know that Barry has been active in that organization so it stands to r reason they would campaign for Barry. But not all of the Preserve people support a write in candidate, or his stand on the UUT. Also, the two on the ballot have supported the Preserve Sierra Madre stand by way of zoning and varience changes.

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    2. Are you experiencing dizziness?

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    3. Preserve Sierra Madre is not a political organization. Not everyone in Sierra Madre is a Tea bagger.

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    4. I agree with you 10:54. Resorting to name calling means one has lost the argument. They have nothing left to support their side so all they can do is deride someone (or a group) by calling them names. The NO on UUT supporters have the facts on their side.

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    5. Anyone against my 66% UUT tax hike is crazy!

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    6. You are right, 1:41 Preserve Sierra Madre is not a political organization and that is WHY they should not have gotten into this fight. And I wonder who you thought was a tea bagger, not me.

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    7. The Yes On UUT crowd has lost its collective mind.

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  20. Yes,in fact I am taking in my Preserve Sierra Madre sign in until after the election.

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    1. If you do return the sign ,exactly how will you help to prevent over-development.

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    2. If you take down your sign the terrorists win.

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  21. 12:03 What are you talking about? preserve S.M. is staying neutral:
    Dear Supporters:
    As we all know, there will be an important election in Sierra Madre on April 12, 2016. There are three candidates running for two positions on the City Council: Mayor John Capoccia, Councilman John Harabedian, and Barry Gold running as a write-in candidate.
    In keeping with our previous policy from the last election, Preserve Sierra Madre will not be making an endorsement in this election. However, we care deeply about preserving our "village of the foothills" and hope that the good citizens of Sierra Madre elect the two candidates who would most support our philosophy. That being said, there are many other important issues facing Sierra Madre including the Utility Users Tax. As with the selection of City Council candidates, we will not be making a recommendation with regard to the Utility Users Tax either and everyone should decide for themselves the impact on preservation with its passage or denial.
    There are two upcoming candidate forums that you may want to attend. As many of you know, we have identified a possible housing project at Mater Dolorosa as one of the biggest threats facing Sierra Madre over the next few years. We also want to make sure that whoever is elected will uphold the new and improved General Plan and the updates that continue to be made to the Municipal Code to bring it in line with the General Plan.

    The next candidates forums are as follows:

    Sierra Madre Woman's Club
    Thursday, March 10th from 5:30 - 7:30 pm
    626-355-4379

    Kiwanis Club
    March 15th at 11:30 am
    626-355-0728

    We would encourage you to attend one or both of these forums so that you can make an informed decision as to who will best represent you over the next few years.

    Thank you for your support.

    Steering Committee

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    1. The Yes On UUT crowd is smoking crack.

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    2. Their medicinal marijuana Rx needs a refill.

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  22. How quaint. The Yes On UUT people are resorting to McCarthyism. Very similar to the hit piece on Larry Torres. Hmm. And both campaigns were run by Martin Truitt?

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    1. Must be a coincidence.

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    2. Does the Yes on UUT campaign manager live in town?

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    3. The manager doesn't but the guy who runs the "yes" web page does and, in a Tattler article a week or so ago, Edward Garcia was exposed as a person who pays very little I. Property taxes, yet he wants the rest of us to pay for his precious police and their pensions.

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    4. 2:34 Who is Martin Truitt and what is he apparently scared of?

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    5. He's a nobody

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    6. The Yes on UUT are getting desperate and resorting to name calling and school yard tatics just like the campaign against MaryAnn a few years ago. Nancy are you out there?

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