Tuesday, April 12, 2016

So Sierra Madre, Did You Vote Yet?


If you are voting write-in today, and obviously you should be doing that, above is the screenshot of a tip that cannot be ignored. In addition, a comment posted here yesterday also lays out the issues involved.


That "color in the oval" thing is important. Don't forget to do that, OK? Otherwise your write-in vote for Barry Gold will not be counted. And please, do not vote for either of the other two candidates. One is just as bad as the other.

Mayor Capoccia gets called out
Yesterday, on the often preternaturally calm Sierra Madre News.net site, an actual conversation took place. I know, but it did happen. The occasion was a reposting of Mr. Capoccia's endlessly wordy "editorial" from the Mountain Views News.

As you may know, that was the one where Capoccia incomprehensibly conflated Monrovia's property tax rate with Sierra Madre's utility tax hit. Done while strangely omitting the fact that Monrovia actually has no utility taxes, an advantage that city uses to attract new business. Something that Sierra Madre has long seemed incapable of figuring out.

Anyhow, this is what went down on the News.net site yesterday (link).




Good stuff. Hopefully the incredible amounts of money spent in the effort to cram this dishonest tax hike down the throats of the voters of Sierra Madre will not pan out for the greedy special interests pushing for it.

We will know the results in a few short hours.

sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

127 comments:

  1. Driving city vehicles on city time, for pleasure, paid by taxpayers is an illegal practice. Just think, this is just another expense which the UUT tax monies pay for. This is total BS. O, by the way, that picture was taken at 9.07 in the morning. Don't these idiots eat breakfast before they come to work at 8.00 am in the morning?

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    1. Why should they when they can do it on city time, and on the city's dime?

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    2. Rick De La Mora knows the numbers. The Yes on UUT hate a guy like that. He can't be fooled. That's what John Cappocia is trying to do - fool the voters and scare them into voting to increase the UUT with no sunset clause. Three times needs to be a charm. Let's vote it down again!

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    3. I want to raise the salaries of all the city employees and give them an even better pension. And I will tax myself to do it. In fact, I am not going to retire any more at 65 or 70 like I had planned because I need to make the extra money so the city employees can retire at 50. That's why I'm voting for the UUT. That's altruism at its finest.

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    4. It is obvious that Measure UUT is a union run and funded ballot initiative designed to line the pockets of their memberships. Sad to say this, but Sierra Madre is on the verge of being owned by its employees.

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    5. verge? already past that point.

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  2. Please vote just for Barry Gold. If you have to vote for a second candidate, don't make it John Harabedian. He is too busy positioning himself for higher office to concern himself with local affairs. Actually, everything he advocates for in Sierra Madre would be filtered through the prism of how it can benefit John Harabedian and not how it will benefit the residents of higher office. Barry Gold has no such ambitions for higher office. He can be trusted with looking out for our interests rather than his own.

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    1. Vote Gold only. Don't feed the beast.

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    2. If everyone does their part and tells 5 friends or helps an elderly person get to the polls to vote for Barry Gold, he gets elected. Its that simple. Make the extra effort. This is a very important election and we need Barry Gold on the City Council.

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  3. Poor Mayor Capoccia. When he tries to reason with those beyond his rather small circle of devoted fans he gets laughed at.

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  4. Barry is a nice guy but not real savvy.His first mistake was signing the abolish UUT petition,even though he's not for it, his second was aligning himself to closely with a radical website,he's since backed off. I for one cannot take him as a serious candidate.

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    1. That is because you are a fool. Maybe one of the Selected Few. One of the Wolf's pups.

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    2. Thank you, Martin Truitt. Don't you need to be spewing out some pro-big government and high taxes hooey to your Yes on MUUT fans?

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    3. That is your particular bias. Characterizing the few thousand people who come here daily in an attempt to decipher the shenanigans of our local government agency as "radicals" is silly name-calling. Barry Gold ran to give a voice to those unwilling to accept an unquestioning continuation of an inept status quo. It is a shame you cannot deal with that.

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    4. 7:26-If you can read and assimilate what you read, Mr. Gold signed the petition because of Mayor Capoccia's outrageous remarks made at CC. Mr. Gold felt if citizens took the time to sign the petition to get it on the ballot, city government should not deny them. He has aligned himself with no "radical website." You, are a kook aid drinker and a liar!

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    5. By your words, you think Capoccia is savvy? I feel your pain!

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    6. Capoccia is a confused little man.

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    7. Mr. Trust doesn't even know Mr. Gold. The trolls are alive and well today!

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    8. Hate spell check! I meant Mr. Truitt, maybe it should have been mr. Untrust.

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    9. Which radical website?

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  5. It is time to force City Hall to spend within its means. Vote NO to the UUT. The UUT is going down for the third time in flames.
    It is time to recall any candidate that does not fire the City Manager!

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  6. We voted
    BARRY GOLD...filled in the little oval at the side
    VOTED NO ON THE SHAMEFUL TAX INCREASE TO SUPPORT CORRUPTION IN GOVERNMENT

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  7. If Measure UUT wins there will be free dump truck breakfast shuttle rides to Tops tomorrow morning.

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  8. I gotta' start voting by mailApril 12, 2016 at 9:18 AM

    Today I voted at the Methodist Church. Here is my story. But first some background.

    When last I voted at the Methodist Church in connection with the most recent semi-annual city effort to raise the UUT, I almost didn't vote. This was because the path to the voting room was occupied by two pro -UUT Sierra Madre society matrons. One was a tall and ecktomorphic wife of the ginger haired mayor. The other was the spikey haired endomorphic real estate queen who made it clear that the wife and I were not welcome in her quadrant of the Webb Martin office when first we sought to buy a house in town. We were ultimately saved by a very kind woman in the office who came to our rescue. I wish I knew her name, as without her intervention we would never have moved to our peaceful foothill village. In any event, I overcame my fear, crossed their line, and voted "no."

    Today I once again got to vote on a UUT measure. And yet again my experience was sub-optimal. This time I was met by four fifth year seniors in the AARP club. As a mere freshman in the AARP club, I was again intimidated. Just like I was the first time I had to run through a "gang shower" filled with actual gang members at Montebello Junior High.

    In any event, I marched to the booth, left the first two spots on the ballot blank, spent a good two minutes trying to figure out how to write in Barry Gold and fill in the bubble next to his name, and voted "No" on the UUT measure. I then handed my ballot to one of the AARP fifth year seniors. That's when things got weird.

    The lady (not an Alcorn) went to pull the receipt off my ballot. She did so in a way that enabled her to view my vote for Mayor, and immediately registered a look of barely contained disgust. At that point the ladies stopped responding to my charming repartee. I guess this means I won't be invited to sit at the seniors' table at the next Friends of the Library meeting.

    More importantly, I have no idea if she put my vote in the box. I am keeping my receipt if an audit is necessary. The lesson is this: Put your own ballot in the box. I promise that in all future semi-annual UUT elections I will follow my own advice.



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    1. Great story. Thank you for posting.

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    2. I voted at Methodist this morning too. To begin with I hate the fact that I have to go to a church to vote for the state.

      The ladies at the reception table still had listed at my address the fellow who previously owned my house 9 years ago. Even though I've been lived there and have been voting for nine years.

      Then one lady gave me brief instructions on how to vote. When I asked 'how do I vote for the write in candidate?', she frowned and only then did she show me a little printed clip of paper mentioning Barry Gold. In the one minute it took me to vote and fill the ballot box, the lady was gone.

      Afterwards I ran into a neighbor at Kersting court who didn't even know there was an election today...

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    3. @ 9:50 I believe you were attempting to vote on whether you wanted gin or vodka in your juice .
      Me thinks you might have a drinking problem and not the voting issue you're making a claim to.
      Being a s$&t starter is so very unattractive .

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  9. Well I just went to the voting place(SMCC)and there was a city employee there he checked my ID and asked who I was voting for,after I told him he said go see the old lady over there. She said my receipt went into the ballot box and would let me know if there was a problem.

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    1. 70 Sierra Madre BL.

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    2. 70 Sierra Madre is the Buccaneer.

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    3. 70 W. Sierra Madre bl.?
      Isn't that the Buccaneer lounge?
      A campus of Sierra Madre City College (SMCC)

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    4. I hear you get a free shot everytime you vote Yes.

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    5. It is illegal to vote at a bar. Call the state election department.

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    6. I vote for Miller

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  10. I voted at 8 am in the Church at the Gooden School and I was the only on there. I don't know if that is good or bad. These yes people seem well organized. I hope it is just a small group of loud mouthed malcontents. I voted NO.

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    1. They had $30,000 to spend. A lot of it union money. It isn't just an election, it is an attempted takeover.

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  11. we gotta stop electing pompous morons

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  12. One, why are they checking I.d. and two, they are not allowed to ask who you are voting for. Also, city employees are not to staff polling places. I hope you reported this to the Board of Elections.

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    1. Is there a poll tax?

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    2. in CA they're not allowed to check ID. They can ask who you are but no ID. File a complaint with the LA County Board of Elections is they checked ID.

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    3. Just for the sake of precision, federal law allows them to request ID from a voter who does not appear on their pre-printed list (usually a new voter casting a "provisional" ballot). BUT, if that voter refuses to furnish ID they cannot prevent him or her from voting.

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  13. Call Nancy and tell her. Do it now! Also report it to Board of Elections.

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    1. Take pictures.

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    2. Voter anonymity is sacrosanct - report it

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  14. Has voter suppression come to Sierra Madre? I feel sick. And ANGRY.

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  15. If any of these voter problems are true, SM is in worse shape than anyone ever imagined! If it was a city employee, do you know their name?

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  16. Welcome to Chicago. Or Pasadena.

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  17. uh, 10:01's story is a joke.

    everyone knows it would be a grave offence to constitutional principles if one were to ask for an ID as a precondition to voting.

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  18. Any ideas on when we will know the results....maybe by 10pm tonight?

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  19. ALL YOUR ELECTION ARE BELONG TO US

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    1. I got you 10:42. Hope you voted.

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    2. Good one! Haven't heard there meme in a while

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  20. Voter irregularities in Sierra Madre? I thought things like that only happened in Bell.

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  21. Re checking I.d. Maybe to see if you were at the correct polling place. It is always a good plan to take your provisional ballot all filled out at home where you can also high light the poling place on the outside cover. It is pretty hard to go to the wrong piling place if you organize yourself in advance. And never say who you voted for unless it is your own idea to disclose that information. That little chunk of cardboard is the symbol of voting privacy=democracy. The "slip" of the ballot outside the envelope for all to see even if it was only this "hapless" poll worker is a Violation!!!! of your voting rights.

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  22. Voter Integrity is MandatoryApril 12, 2016 at 11:13 AM

    nancy, my voter receipt is 04565. If that ballot is not there the election is being stolen.

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  23. Can I also mention that there were yes on uut people out with signs early this morning at the corner of SM and Baldwin.

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  24. Got the following from Barry Gold via email, thought it'd be good to mention here:

    Hi everyone,
    Here is an e-mail I got from a loyal supporter that I wanted to share with you. It needs no explanation.
    Barry

    "Tomorrow is Sierra Madre's election for City Council, Treasurer, City Clerk and the UUT measure.

    This is how I voted and I encourage you to do the same:

    I voted for Barry Gold . If you do you have to write in his name and completely fill in the oval bubble.

    Why? I have observed Barry in his civic participation over the last four years and see him as a thoughtful and thorough thinker and I believe he will serve the city well. His background in finances would serve us well.

    I did not cast my second vote for one of the incumbents. I wanted to strengthen the possibility of Mr. Gold being elected.

    I voted for the Treasurer and the City Clerk.

    I voted NO on the UUT measure for one very important reason: there is no sunset. That is to say, if the city finds itself in a better economiic position and not in need of the 10% on 10 different utilities (one of the highest number taxed in the state)the UUT would remain at 10% forever.

    I do not object to the idea of a UUT, but I believe it is the wrong to fix it permanently and 10% is very high in comparison to other cities in the state.

    Additionally, I do not believe the Yes position has been honest in their dire warnings of all the losses of services to our city. I am sure the city can do a better job of economizing our expenditures the same way as a homeowner we have to spend our resources carefully when times are tough."

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  25. Voting in SM is too HardApril 12, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    11:17 has me concerned. The ballot did not look like the Ben Franklin ballot above. Below the names of the two stiffs it had two blank lines with bubbles next to them. I filled in the bubble next to one and wrote in Barry Gold. Was this correct?

    I was never asked if I needed instructions and never told of another procedure for voting for Barry. What the heck did he have to go through the nomination process for if there is no adjustment made to the ballot.

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    1. Sounds like you did it right. Thank you!

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  26. I'll just be glad when it's over. Like all of the elections in town during the last 25 years, it got mean-spirited.

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    1. Same here and probably same for everyone. The last Tattler article a few days ago was way too mean-spirited too.

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    2. I found the "paranoid lunatics" article to be completely appropriate. Then again, I know the players.

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    3. I wish somebody could say they stayed on issue and away from name calling.
      It's just not like that in Sierra Madre anymore.

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    4. I agree. Sometimes you just have to use the words.

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    5. 3:24 - Obviously you haven't been listening to Mayor Capoccia.

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    6. Like when Capoccio called us "crazy" and said we wanted to "bankrupt the city". What a maroon.

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    7. Capoccia, along with that consultant he brought in, set the tone for this election. I guess they thought if they went ugly people would be intimidated.

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    8. Both sides lost.

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  27. Get the Next UUT Petitions Ready!April 12, 2016 at 1:44 PM

    I agree 1:00 pm. The situation is made worse by politicians like Joe Mosca, tax cutter John, and the two seat warmers Rachelle and Denise. Each of these courageous public servants ran by saying one thing and rolled over and played dead once they got into office. The city will be better off when they are gone.

    You will notice that almost no one takes a swipe at Gene Goss. That's because he has shown integrity. As a first time candidate he promised he would tax and spend. He lost. As a second time candidate he promised he would tax and spend. He won, perhaps aided by the melt down of Naked Noah Greene. Gene is to be commended for his honesty.

    In the meantime, rest assured that no matter what happens tonight, we will be dealing with yet another "reduce" or "raise" the UUT ballot measure in two years. Woo. Woo.

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    1. Gene Goss said he got tons of emails. When the Tattler asked for copies, it showed Geno got zero emails. A lie is still a lie, even if it involves imaginary friends.

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    2. I wish Rachelle and Denise were more vocal about their positions on this. I get the sense they were both persuaded that circling the wagons was better for the city than a bitterly divided council. But they are normally such straight talkers. The mayor's shift, however inexplicable, was at least public because he's so emotional (2014: "No more taxes!" 2016: "What do you horrible people want, to bankrupt the city?!") But, seeing Rachelle and Denise so quietly roll over on this issue in under two years is the greatest enigma and disappointment, to me. Is it really THAT important for the counsel to stay united?

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    3. No. In both 2012 and 2014 the City Council split 4-1 to put a tax increase on the ballot.

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    4. Once in a rare while a Councilmember keeps their campaign promises.

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    5. True. Easy to remember because it happens so rarely. Sigh.

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  28. When Arizmendi,Delmar and Capoccia all ran as anti-UUT then flipped on a dime, People were pissed off.

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  29. I spoke to the lady running the voting booth at the Buccaneer she says it's a dead heat as of right now. Also several Muslims were seen voting and talking in strange code language.

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    1. If they were in the Buccaneer they couldn't have been very devout Muslims.

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    2. If you voted at the Buccaneer you can't have been a very devout voter, or a sober one for that...

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    3. They pay by the drink for Yes votes.

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  30. Let capoco and hardbiden glad hand each other and continue to try to bk this city. There must be a petition and recall notice for each one of them. They are not team players for and taxpayer.

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  31. I just talked with a friend of the family, this person has a BA in business and was going to vote yes on the UUT. She 2 kids and was worried and believed they would loose the library if the UUT wasn't passed. She like a lot of other people believed the BS even with her BA. This is a person that is having trouble making ends meet and was going to sacrifice so they could keep the library. Looks like all the money spent for a yes vote really worked.

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    1. You can buy a lotta lying for $30,000.

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    2. Except they would absolutely cut the library to make the budget for the first year. And then farm out the police to make budget for future years. And if the LASD raised their rates beyond projections (which, for those who know that they've been putting off raising rates) is highly likely, then the paramedic program would get cut. That's just how the math works. It's why Barry Gold thinks a 9% UUT is necessary.

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    3. 6:49, step away from the kool-aid. Don't you think if LASD was gouging the numerous contract cities in LA County you'd have heard about it. The rate per Deputy is the same county-wide.

      No way the rate goes up as much as the pay increases for smaller depts. like Arcadia or W. Covina.

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  32. We thank every one for their support as to voting ,NO on the UUT. The real vote will be to vote to Repeal All UUT TAXes in 2018.

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    1. Go Earl, I still support No UUT!

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  33. Earl, Earl, Earl!April 12, 2016 at 7:07 PM

    Amen! To the barricades!

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  34. Who is we? Got a mouse in your tea party pocket?

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    1. 7:14 would be Marty Truitt.

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    2. Who, by the way, is an a hole

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    3. Right....and a 66% permanent tax hike

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  36. I guess we do not have enough money to post the current election results it is after 8 PM, is that because the UUT was funded for that at this time, or does the UUT have to pay for that and we don't have the money now????????????????????????????????????????

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  37. let's get the TV going

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  38. There has been many instrumental people who have been willing to request change for our community. John Crawford has also carried the torch and flame for years! Long live the residents who have UN selfishly carried the torch! This community belongs to all of us, not only a select few.

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  39. it is now past 8:25 where are the results?

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    1. Let's get it straight, no cable 3 results, a miss direction to www.sierramadre.com, WTF...
      If we have soooo much money, why can't be post on TV like all the other years

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    2. Mr. Truitt where are your results???????

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    3. In case the results are not what city hall wants?

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    4. The fix is in. A plot against hard working upper middle class entitled,just plain, folk

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  41. First absentee results show the yes vote is well ahead. Looks like Christmas won't be canceled.

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  42. Amerio and Carrillo are getting more votes than Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. There is a protest vote.

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  43. Any update on Mr. Gold?

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    1. Loosing quite badly.Butt the nite is young.

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    2. Disappointing but not surprising :/

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  44. THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!

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    1. Time to build a wall, Pasadena and Arcadia will pay for it!

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  45. Its gridlock in front of City Hall. Whats going on? Im atLima traffic stopped. Dark eerily quiet. sorry for punct> on Tmobile phone

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  46. Amerio is now beating Harabedian by 120 votes.

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  47. I hear fireworks whats going on at kensington?

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  49. Smarmy schmuck Harabedian continues to underperform.

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  50. Close to 40% of the voters did not vote for Capoccia or Harabedian, but they did not vote for Gold either. They just must not have known that he was running.

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    1. No, I knew he was running, didn't want 9% either, so I chose to not vote for City Council at all. 10% on almost all utilities and water rates rise in July, I can hardly wait to pay more UUT....not!

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  51. Unofficially if I'm correct the turnout seems to be around 18-20% for this election. Kinda pathetic for how important it seemed.

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  52. 1921 yes on uut, to 737 No.

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  53. A sad night, but not a disaster. If there's a will to change the UUT, a way can be found.

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  54. Did Arcadia repeal their UUT? Can't find results on line.

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  55. Shake it off, Crawford & your pundits.

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  56. What's the latest on the FPPC complaint that was filed against Yes on UUT? Any word from Nancy Walsh?

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