Thursday, May 12, 2016

Nancy Shollenberger's Letter To The City Council

Councilmember Arizmendi, Nancy, and three complicated dudes.
Mod: At Tuesday evening's City Council meeting a resident read out loud the following letter from now retired City Clerk Nancy Shollenberger. This was in response to what appeared to be an attempted power grab by some of the more ethically challenged members of this community. A claque that apparently includes certain members of City Hall management. Here is what Nancy Shollenberger had to say:

"Councilmembers, I am sorry that I cannot attend this evening. I promised the Arcadia Eastern Star Chapter that that I would take minutes at their meeting, which is at the same time as your City Council meeting. I have asked a friend to read my comments.

Good evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and City Councilmembers. My name is Nancy Shollenberger, retired City Clerk of 32 years.

The election process is over so I am surprised that you are even discussing the compensation of the City Clerk. I thought that could only be discussed when the City Clerk is up for election. The election is over and the new City Clerk was elected under the same compensation that was paid to me.

The City Clerk position is the biggest asset you have in this city. I am disappointed that you are even discussing the compensation of the City Clerk, other than giving her a raise. You will be electing a new City Clerk every four years if you don't at least pay her what you were paying me.

You need to put some value on the City Clerk's time. She is not on the same level as the City Council. She is a staff person and has work to do at City Hall. The minutes are not typed at the City Clerk's leisure, there are deadlines that must be met.

Please don't listen to a "select few" in town - this is not a political issue, it is a commonsense issue, and I am asking you to do the right thing!

I will give you the City Clerk's responsibilities and financial review papers that were given to Melinda Carrillo when she picked up her candidate's packet. She was elected under those terms. Also, I will include the sheet that the City Manager gave to Melinda. Who decides the City Clerk's responsibilities and compensation?

The next to last paragraph of the City Manager's list reads as follows:

Recommended to designate a deputy present at City Hall for receipt of all materials delivered to the City Clerk during hours when the City Clerk is not present at City Hall.

Do you really expect this deputy to sit at City Hall whenever the City Clerk is not there for free? Mayor and City Council, leave things the way they are. They have worked very well for 60 years. That I can vouch for.

The City Clerk is a part-time, not a full-time, employee, and should not be expected to be present every day, all day, at City Hall. That would be an absolute waste of her time, and the deputy's time. She is elected by the people, to serve the people. Let her do the job. Thank you."

Mod: The treatment accorded Melissa Carrillo on her first night on that job was uncalled for, rude, and even personally threatening. Odd behavior for a group that often congratulates itself for its civility. She is owed an apology by the majority of the City Council, and the City Manager.

The following e-mail made the rounds yesterday

Mod: This comment from yesterday pretty much sums it all up.



Mod: So what was the City Manager and her boy toys attempting to accomplish by all of this? Shut down what has been a democratically elected office in this community for decades just so City Manager Aguilar can finesse meeting records? Or something? It just makes no sense. As far as money goes, here is what Nancy Shollenburger made in 2014 compared to what the City Manager continues to make. Courtesy of Transparent California (link).



Mod: Obviously Stockley and the rest of the usual suspects are full of it.

Sierra Madre Weekly coverage of the Dedicato TC debacle
Mod: Great article in today's SMW on the Dedicato mess. Terry Miller has got to be one of the hardest working guys in the newspaper business. At the end of his piece (which gives props to The Tattler for breaking this story) there is the following letter from a resident who is asking all of the right questions (link):


Mod: So now we have two newspapers that Dedicato refused to talk with. Who knows, maybe they're just shy. 

An interesting comment
sierramadretattler.blogspot.com

69 comments:

  1. The sad thing about the drug center, is once again, no transparancy from City Hall. M's. Aguilar had to know about this as it required a business license. I would think the city attorney would be aware, also. As for the city clerk, once again, the charge was led by the unbalanced Capoccia. What a set-up that was!. And don't lose sight of the debacle to merge the library with the community department. Elaine and Stocley have their hands in that, too. The library only needs a manager. Not a full blown librarian. They want to cut one department so they can pay for the hire of the other one. The whole meeting was jaw dropping. Go to the Monday night meeting of the combined committee's. They need your support.

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    1. Are they allowed to set those up so close to Sr. Rita School, or any school, for that matter??

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    2. 8:40, because they are a place with 6 beds or less, they can pretty much be wherever they want and do whatever they want.
      Ask their lawyer.

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    3. The druggie center never got a business license. They claim they are not a business. Lol. They claim to be supportive housing.....which by definition, they are not.

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    4. Every city library must have a qualified librarian it is sheer folly to say a library should just have a manager. Obviously that statement was made by someone who has never stepped into a library.

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    5. 11:32A You believe every library must have a librarian. Can you show me the law, rule or regulation that says that? I have spent more time in a library than you have, I'm sure. I just don't go often to the Sierra Madre Library. It's too hard to get anything from the help there unless they know you. Every time I have been, I have never been greeted, asked if I need help and on and on. I say you're sheer folly.

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    6. Why does the library set seem to imagine that our small town book depository is comparable to the Library of Congress or one that's In league with a major university or college ?
      Seriously,reading time for dogs and toddlers doesn't take rocket science and I'm assured anyone doing a doctoral thesis wil consider or put much thought into using the Sierra Madre Book Depository .

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  2. Obviously Mayor Goss's year in office is off to a fabulous start.

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    1. I'd hate to think what will happen if it goes downhill from there.

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    2. Gee, and all Gene wanted to do during his Council tenure was fix the sidewalks.

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    3. First things first.

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    4. That's right. Gotta spend that money on the SMPD Platinum Pensions, not agreed-upon elected City Clerks. What jerks the 3 Amigos are proving to be.

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    5. it's those dang nebulous forces Goss keep hearing in his head

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    6. At least he asked to have the issue of rehab housing put on the agenda.

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  3. Last things first.

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  4. First things last.

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  5. Any idea why nickel and diming the new City Clerk at her very first meeting was such a big priority for our new mayor? Since Gene set the agenda, he must have had a reason. Was he getting emails?

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    1. Yes, really. The mayor sets the agenda and if "Mayor" Goss had some, ahem, backbone, he'd have told the City Manager to leave the City Clerk along for 4 more years.

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    2. Gene has obviously spent some time in Bart's hot tub.

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    3. Per Mira Monte Ave. Isn't that the street on which a convicted sexual predator lives, too?

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    4. Your newly increased taxpayer dollars hard at work.

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    5. "We can't do anything!" - City Hall

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    6. People need to start getting checked out for resident PTSD.

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    7. Watch out 8:39! You mean "registered citizen." And yes.

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    8. Yes. If you don't use the proper terminlogy for such folks you could be labeled a bigot.

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    9. Goss hasn't answered my e-mail.

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    10. Is it just me or does Gene sound like Eeyore?

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  6. Any change they make to the city clerk position will end up costing us more just so Elaine can gain more control.
    Disgusting!

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    1. That is the really weird thing. Stockley yammered about the supposed big money the City Clerk pulls down, but if a new city employee is hired you're talk about a 200% increase. Insane!

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    2. That 200% number is conservative.

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    3. Rob needs to get a life

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    4. He's a public nuisance.

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    5. I heard there will be a meeting Monday ay 6:00P in the CC chamber, I guess. This will be with library, and 2 other committees that maybe affected by Elaine wants to meld into one so she can hire her high priced librarian. If you care enough, stop by.

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    6. Step back and take a deep breath. ANY changes made to the terms and compensation of an elected official in California can only be made effective in a subsequent term. The council can make whatever changes they want, but it can't take effect until the NEXT term begins...that's four years from now. I'm certain that the illustrious city attorney will call that to their attention before the next meeting (don't ya think?).

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  7. Please email the council members to let them know this is disgusting

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  8. What the whole town is seeing here is the in group that has been running this town for many years now. This so called civility group has had some of the nastiest people come forward when they didn't get their way. Rob Stockley, who while on the council was a vote that put this town in the mess it's in today. Rob Stockley pushed his candidate for city clerk and lost, maybe that is why he is attacking that position, because there group didn't get their person in such an important position. It is very difficult living in a town that could be debt free and provide the best service of any town around. As I see it, you have local boy attorney with mom high up at a local church and the long arm of Athens supporting him, he has done what he is told, right or wrong. Then you have old John who is in need of some temper counseling. He must be so proud to have such a powerful position and excepted by that special in crowed. Then you have Boss Goss who is in the Mayors seat because he did everything he was told to do and yes by that same group, wonder what they think of group housing? Then you have the 2 ladies, one of which is a rising star in the political arena so you already know and have seen which way she goes. The other lady seems to have been stopped every time by what the men want. Most disgusting was watching J C publicly put her down, temper, temper, I would be afraid of him too. With bad city management and the in group with special interests we as tax paying citizens are doomed to keep paying for a poorly run city with a manager that needs to be replaced.

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    1. 9:27AM Perfectly said!

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  9. Reason's Sierra Madre is broke and going broker, over priced staff along with it's city council pay plus CalPERS and the SMPD. You saw it yourself during the latest round of city council meeting the money just flows out of city hall with no proper record keeping.

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  10. The California Assoc of Realtors gave $1,000 to the Yes on UUT campaign. Surprised?

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  11. These positions within the government of the City of Sierra Madre are voted on: City Council Members (5), Treasurer (1), and City Clerk (1). Not one of the 7 positions listed reports to the City Manager. While Mr. Stockly is adamant that the City Clerk position is that of staff, it is actually co-equal with the City Council Members. The rub for Stockly, Doyle, Buchanan, Hayes, ad infinitum, is that Nancy Schollenberger maintained her professionalism and dignity, and insisted on reporting directly to the voters of the City of Sierra Madre by concentrating on those tasks designated to her position. Should the decision be made to do away with an independent City Clerk and hire a Deputy City Clerk reporting to the City Manager, the invitation will have been issued to invite deceit, fraud, and undue influence to the Council table.

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    1. Absolutely, 10:33. Should City Council bring new Treasurer Mike Amerio to the next meeting to quiz him on whether he would have run had he been opposed?

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    2. Amen, 10:33.

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    3. Typical government - attack and intimidate those that they sense are weak.

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    4. Residents are where city hall gets its money.
      Friends are the people they give that money.

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  12. most of the drug addicts i know have higher moral values than the district attorneys i've met.

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    1. I think the word you're looking for is amoral, in both cases.
      But if a DA moves in next to you & your family, you'll still be able to sell your house if you need to.

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    2. tb, trust me, I don't want to live near a DA. "There goes the neighborhood!"

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    3. Councilmember Harabedian works in the DA's office.

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    4. no junkie ever tried to throw my kid out of school. but a DA has

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  13. this city's financial woes would be obliterated with a couple of dispensaries.

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  14. Any Realtor caught renting properties to drug rehab companies needs to be called out.

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    1. that's right. As well as to the elderly, blind, deaf, mentally ill, homeless, and the disabled. have i left anyone out?

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    2. 11:40, be sure to give your address to city hall and any interested realtors so they know you'll be happy to have supportive housing in your neighborhood,

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    3. Yeah, there's no difference between someone born blind with other handicaps, like the long time residents of Sierra Madre's CLIMB, a valued and protected part of the community, and drug addicts.

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    4. Very insulting to the disabled, tb.

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    5. Folks here choose to show empathy to the disability they favor. Read into that what you choose. There's been a rehab hue and an aa/na ptogram o my street as long as i can remember.worried qbot your property values? Sell or stfu

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    6. Almost comic. This city is sill implementing ADA requiremments from 30 years ago

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    7. There's no point in discussing the rehab housing problem with someone who sees victimhood as saintly.

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    8. Junkies are not disabled. They're self destructive idiots. Should they be helped? Of course. Should that be done at the expense of everyone else? No. The government has no business dictating where these facilities should be.

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    9. Overweight and obese people are also engaging in self destructive behavior. Are they still allowed in our neighborhoods?

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  15. Elaine wants to designate a deputy city clerk to be at city hall so she can have control of everything that comes into the office. She would most likely designate her administrative aide to be the one and who has complete loyalty to Elaine De Alcorn was right when he said even though there might not be any impropriety, the appearance is there. In Sierra Madre the City Clerk is an elected official who should be independent of City Hall Just remember the last 218 process.

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  16. The place on Carter told the city it was supportive housing. The definition is on a gov website.
    http://hcd.ca.gov/housing-policy-development/senate-bill-745/sb745memo042414.pdf
    Don't think there's a lot of jobs to be had in Sierra Madre - and this is housing that will only last as long as your money does. Hard to tell tell how the one on Carter is not just a business.

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  17. When was the position of City Manager upgraded from City Administrator; and were some of above named Council members serving at that time? Does anyone recall what was going on in the town that such changes were suggested?

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  18. Now that the election is over and the Staff & Special Interest groups are empowered, due to the over whelming victory, they are not wasting any time in FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING SIERRA MADRE.

    You will very soon see the Monastery developers make their big push to ram through the changes they need to destroy our little “Village of the Foothills”.

    This is really sad.

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    1. Makes sense. That is why special interests funded the Measure UUT effort to the tune of $30,000. So many otherwise smart people were fooled. What a victory for the people who want to cash Sierra Madre in.

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  19. In light of these revelations about the City Council, anyone who thinks they live in the "quiet town" of Sierra Madre seems to be rather delusional.

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  20. "Group Living Facilities" has been agendized for City Council review, but according to the City Mangler report doesn't see the light of day until June 14. Feel the urgency!

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    1. Don't get your hopes up for that either. The Planning Commission is working on guidelines for "facilities" or houses or whatever it is they are supposed to be called, for 7 beds or more. That's probably what will be discussed at the council. The real problems are the sneak-under-regulations places of 6 beds or less.

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