Wednesday, May 11, 2016

Pasadena Star News: Sober living home surprises Sierra Madre residents

The Sierra Madre mountains of Mexico are on the right.

Mod: The Dedicato Treatment Center story has now hit the Pasadena Star News. This was nice to see since The Tattler, along with the Sierra Madre Weekly, have been the only news venues covering the story up until now. It does get lonely.


The rest of this article can be accessed here. There is a lot of additional important information to be found there, including the odd news that the Dedicato people would not return Claudia Palma's calls. You would have thought they'd want to get their side of the story out, and seized this opportunity. Maybe they don't want that?

My only objection here is the observation that this inappropriately situated rehab facility for drug addicts has been "operating out of the home at 22 W. Carter for years." My understanding is that it has only been there for at most one year, and likely far less.

Last night's discouraging City Council meeting
I've decided to put off writing about this one for a minute. I will have something up tomorrow. It's late and I can't quite get my head around a few of the things I heard. But someone did post a comment last night that I thought summed up everything I felt.


Based on the kinds of bold things he said when first running for office, did you ever think that John Capoccia would have ended up becoming little more than Bart Doyle's messenger?

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62 comments:

  1. Hey, even a diamond floating in a sea of poop... eventually just becomes a poop-covered diamond. That's kinda what politics does to a person.

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  2. It seems obvious that this is an attempt to shut down an elective office that has been hard for the Stockleys of this town to control. The less access residents have to information about their local government agency the more they like it.

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    1. It's a process.

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    2. The process stinks.

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  3. The stockleys have every right to turn their family home into a drug rehab center also. Cheets

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  4. Mod, you are quite right about the detox business time frame. Why Palma wants to give them more credibility by stating they've been there for "years" is puzzling.

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    1. Maybe she had a bad source. You have to wonder who it was she spoke to.

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    2. Maybe someone at city hall who thinks the DTC is no big deal.

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    3. Once again a local paper gets it wrong. No surprise.

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    4. I am going to give the reporter the benefit of the doubt. She must have gotten her information from someone with an agenda contrary to the needs of the people of Sierra Madre.

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    6. Okay 1:23, explain to me about the effect on surrounding property values by places like the one you are defending.

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    7. 1:31 you'll find the supporters of supportive housing silent when it comes to honest discussion about financial matters.

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    8. It must not necessarily have any effect on the surrounding property values, most of which are overvalued anyways. Given that they are renting, they may not be here anymore when you want to sell. You never have control over who is moving in next door. Apparently, the history of that house is not as stellar as anyone would want it to be.

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    9. "Apparently, the history of that house is not as stellar as anyone would want it to be."
      Somebody must have a dry sense of humor.

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    10. While your realtor may want to make you believe that location is all that matters, there are a lot of other factors that influence the value of a home.

      Apart from the global drivers of the housing market that include recession and income stagnation (less demand), the rise of McMansions (increased supply), anticipated interest rate hikes (leading to less demand), the value of a home is also influence by national trends such as urban revival and baby boomers deciding to downsize and move into cities (less demand), millenials that stay at home until their mid-thirties (less demand), the advent of microhouses (less demand). There is already a trend of people moving out of California, which may very well be connected to the high costs in California (less demand). Finally, local policies such as UUT increases and leaking water pipes have an effect on informed potential buyers as well (further creating less demand). Who would want to move to town that is so poorly managed? A single home can never have such an impact.

      More on price elasticity of housing demand can be studied here:
      http://urbanpolicy.berkeley.edu/pdf/HQ_REStat80.pdf

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  5. Hey, I thought there was supposed to be discretion about posting the address of 22 West Carter. Guess no one told the Star News. Free PR, huh?

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    1. You should not worry your little head about the address being posted. DEDICATO is there and you cannot make them leave because you don't approve. You do not OWN the city of SIERRA MADRE not go cry with the rest of your blogger pals.

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    2. Why are pro-Dedicato posters so consistently nasty? They will hardly win any friends here with that kind of talk.

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    3. Dedicato doesn't own the city of Sierra Madre. They rent.

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    4. They are not interested in friends, 1:45. They just want to make money here.

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  6. City Manager Aguilar comes off as very blasé about it.
    She should have one next to her house.

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  7. The Dedicato website is a hoot. Somebody was busy lifting pictures off Wikipedia.
    I wonder if the kids posing by the Eaton Canyon waterfall authorized their pictures being used to promote drug rehab?

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    1. Actually this violates many laws!

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    2. Somebody help those kids find a good lawyer.

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    3. Your jealous you don't have a business or a doctorate degree.

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    4. That would be "you're," Captain Trips.

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  8. The reason that the City hasn't done anything about Dedicato? Easy, lack of funds = not enough staff time.

    Staff is slammed with the work about cutting the City Clerk's compensation and consolidating the City Manager's power.

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    1. So what amount in licensing fees is Dedicato paying to the City to operate? The City should be able to assess fees for these " home based" businesses and also have the right to inspect them. If the City is not charging any fees, they are even stupider than I thought

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    2. Nobody is saying. So much for transparency.

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    3. A supported housing house under 6 beds requires nothing to be legal.
      Bupkis.

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  9. Since when is anyone's compensation the topic of a public City Council meeting? Was this an attempt to intimidate the new City Clerk?

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    1. Well, yeah!

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    2. If the new city clerk chooses to do action minutes, so be it. But she should not expect the same pay as if she provided a detailed minutes like nancy provided the city. And who cares if she is divorced with two boys. I am tired of her playing that tune. Sounds to me like she wants the pay but no work. Like the rest of the staff, she is over worked and under paid. Boo hoo hoo.

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    3. She is not on the staff. If she were, she'd have benefits, pension, and really no work.

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    4. What, 11:02? Overpaid and no work? Were you listening to Stockley??? Take a look at the detail of what is expected of our City Clerk. Look at what Nancy provided, which lists the actual work, and NOT what the City Manager provided. Also, talk to Nancy about how other City Clerks laugh at what she makes (or so little, I should say). "I'm tired of her playing that tune"? Are you her ex-husband?

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    5. I couldn't believe she was moaning about the phone calls she had to return.
      You are right, she isn't staff, but she sure sounds like them. If she can provide the same level of service that Nancy provided then she should get the same pay. If not, then the pay should be adjusted by what it costs staff to do the same work.

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  10. "California May Regulate Sober Living Homes For the First Time"...LA Weekly

    http://www.laweekly.com/news/california-may-regulate-sober-living-homes-for-the-first-time-6857391

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    1. I'm confused about the categories of these 'facilities' or 'centers' or 'homes' or 'businesses'. What is it? The Dedicato calls itself a 'treatment center' and offers detox among a bunch of other things - but does detox take place in 'sober living homes' or does it precede someone's moving to a sober living home? I don't think the Star News got the title right.

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    2. It will be whatever definition their lawyers tell them to use.
      That's a niche law practice, to be sure.

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  11. I agree, 9:38. It was disgusting badgering the new City Clerk, who was doing her best to keep up with the minutes at her first City Council meeting, "Well, do you want to take full minutes or action minutes? Well, what?" Then telling her that if she "only" takes action minutes her salary will be cut in two years, and she can resign at that time if she wants to. De Alcorn pointed out to the Council that there has been a problem with transparency in City Hall for years, and if staff takes the minutes people will definitely believe that there is a conspiracy. Barry Gold followed up with how this would be a dangerous precedent. PLEASE, please - email every Council member to let them know that you think this is a bad idea: ggoss@cityofsierramadre,jharabedian@cityofsierramadre, jcapoccia@cityofsierramadre, rarizmendi@cityofsierramadre, ddelmar@cityofsierramadre. This is far too important to let slide. It has more to do with politics than the nickel and dimes earned by the City Clerk.

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    1. There is a kind of thuggishness to Mr. Harabedian. It isn't always apparent, but does show from time to time. Very unsettling.

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    2. Seems to me that this city clerk was elected to a four year term and thus should receive that same salary for four years. This is so typical of the government in Sierra Madre. The citizens give them a 66% tax increase and the first things they do are design new badges and patches for the police dept. and try to lower the City Clerk's salary. Wow, those are really meaningless and unimportant things to do. What a bunch of useless fools.

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    3. The new city clerk seems like a thoroughly pleasant person, and I doubt she'd do this - but she could sue the city for a bait and switch move like that. She went through an election for one job and hey, presto, it's now another.

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    4. Sadly, 11:18, this is the best Council we've had in years, but I have to agree with you on this one!

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    5. It was abusive. And if it wasn't for Denise it would have gone through.

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    6. Somewhere in my lifetime, I was taught that for an employer to cheat an employee out of earnings is a serious sin in the eyes of God. Also that it cries out to God for vengeance. I'd hate to meet my Maker and have to answer for what the Council did last night.

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  12. Not a very auspicious start to Mayor Goss's term in office.

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    1. I am not sure Gene quite understands the difference between Passive Aggressive behavior and civility.

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  13. Rumor around town. Some of our less ethical local Realtors are lining up behind Dedicato because they want their piece of those $5,000 a month rents. Locating properties for Sober Houses in Sierra Madre could be very profitable for them.

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    1. Nothing surprising there.

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    2. Bloodsuckers.

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    3. I suppose the alternative would be to have some of the oversized houses empty, as in Arcadia, or have Tori Spelling move in, as in Encino. I am not sure whether any of these scenarios would be any better for our communities.

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    4. I don't see how a house filled with rehabbing junkies can be seen as preferable to an empty one.

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    5. The value of the house is impacted by an empty house next door.

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    6. Again, I don't see how filling a house with drug addicts improves neighborhood property values.

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    7. It is not the neighbor's responsibility to increase the property value of your home.

      If your neighbors are putting out trash cans every day of the week, that has a negative influence on the value of your home. If you have a fish pond in the desert that attracts all mosquitos in the area (and with it malaria and now Zika viruses), that has a negative influence on the value of your home. If you have a cash-strapped celebrity living next door, who has a yard sale (with a press release to attract lots of media attention), that has a negative impact on the value of your home. If you have an empty house next door that has an unkempt lawn, mail overfloating the mail box etc., that influences the value of your home.

      You have no influence on any of these factors. Your influence pretty much ends at your property line.

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    8. Unless you live in an HOA. Then, in a worst case scenario, you have communists rule your property.

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  14. Sounds like 1:34's little head is doing all the thinking. That is a dirty group and it shows every time they raise there ugly heads.

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  15. Past City Councils have been back and forth on whether or not they wanted full minutes or action minutes.

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    1. Action minutes. Is that like an Executive Summary?

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  16. It appears that since the new City Clerk is not an employee she is not afforded the same privacy of discussion that is afforded city employees when it comes to salary or conditions of service. I was not there but I can believe that this was awkward and mean and totally uncalled for.

    I WAS in the audience one time when my name was on the agenda for approval for a second term on a commission. The vote of the City Council was taken and it was 5 yes, O no until Mr Stockley realized how he had voted and he asked to change his vote to vote against me. Actually the proceeding was entirely irregular, but they cotinued on and so did I, to serve the city as a commissioner for another term.

    I was a witness and a target of an awkward, mean and totally uncalled for action on the part of Mr. Stockley. Why is anybody listening to him?

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