Saturday, July 2, 2016

The Gas Company and So. Cal. Edison Team Up For A Potentially Bad Summer

Don't you dare use your air conditioning
Mod: The big revelation in this week's City Manager's Report (link) is that So. Cal. Edison might occasionally run out of electricity this summer. The reason? The Gas Company. Don't you love it when big monopoly utilities work together? What follows are the reasons why this may happen.

IMPACTS OF ALISO CANYON NATURAL GAS LEAK TO BE FELT ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA - Director Inman attended a breakfast meeting Wednesday morning that was hosted by Southern California Gas Company (SoCal). The meeting was held for the purpose of beginning to get the word out that the temporary closure of SoCal’s Aliso Canyon Natural Gas Storage Facility is going to have an effect across all of the Southern California service area.

Aliso Canyon comprises what is by far the highest capacity (86 billion cubic feet) storage area in the So. Cal. system. That gas storage serves as a critical buffer between gas supplies coming in from out of state and local demand. Without that buffer in operation, gas supplies may not meet demand during peak periods, such as hot summer afternoons.

Attendees learned that 61% of Southern California’s electrical energy is generated at gas-fired generation plants operated by Edison and various municipal agencies. In the event of natural gas shortage, SoCal will reduce its flow to those major gas users rather than risking loss of operating pressure in the distribution system.

Every effort will be made to avoid loss of gas service to residential areas; however the effect of the loss of local gas storage may be seen in the increased frequency of electrical ‘brownouts’ across Southern California. More information can be found at www.conserveenergysocal.com.

The Gas Company has requested assistance from local agencies to get the word out about the heightened need to reduce electricity demands at peak afternoon times throughout the summer. To that end, staff has invited a Gas Company representative to make a presentation on the subject at an upcoming meeting, and information will be posted on the City’s website and disseminated via e-blast.

Mod: The easy solution for Edison is to force you to conserve. And if you don't? Then the service interruptions will be at least in part your fault. That is pretty much how the story usually goes, right? Blame the customer. Also check the "conservation incentive" penalty located in the upper right hand corner of your Edison bill. They are probably already fining you and you don't even know it yet. But it is all for your own good, of course. Even when it is not.

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33 comments:

  1. The best solution to this problem is to get a solar roof and make your own energy.

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    1. And let all those poor schmucks who don't have solar panels subsidize you.

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    2. Under California state law the big energy monopolies like Edison are guaranteed an 11% profit margin. Just in case you've ever wondered why the tier rates you are charged every month change. It is a form of corporate taxation.

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    3. 7:34 That's why you should own Edison stocks.

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    4. Edison is a dinosaur. It is only a matter of time before it disappears.

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    5. When is the last time a solar panel did this:
      "The worst natural gas leak in the nation from Oct. 23 to Feb. 18 displaced two schools, forced the evacuation of 8,000 families and generated thousands of sickness complaints.

      Residents complained of nausea, nosebleeds, headaches and other illnesses attributed to the noxious fumes or well contaminants.

      The Aliso Canyon leak also may have contributed to climate change, California air quality officials and scientists have said. That methane released — the gas is considered 84 times more potent in warming the earth’s atmosphere over a 20-year span than carbon dioxide — cranked out the equivalent of 1,735,404 cars in a year."
      http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/government-and-politics/20160701/porter-ranch-gas-leak-make-sure-that-this-never-happens-again-officials-say

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    6. 7:20
      The "poor schmucks" benefit from their neighbors having solar systems. Since they do not add to the power usage, there will be enough left for the "poor schmuck".
      But you can put a negative spin on everything, if you prefer.

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  2. Get ready for it. City fines for overuse of electricity.

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  3. Time to do more research on solar pannels that may fit my needs.
    More cities are charging homeowners for a percentage of solar pannels usage.
    Only two things certain in life; taxes and death.

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  4. I'd like to send their CEO's a 'brownout'.

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  5. Remember the more you conserve, the lower their profits. Hence, rates go up.

    Don't forget brown outs ruin computers and other electrical appliances.

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    1. 9:42 is conserving electrons by omitting a past participle.

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  6. Look at it this way: The more energy you conserve, the less UUT you pay! A win-win situation, in my opinion.

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  7. I heard there is no uut on solar. Is this true ?

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    1. So far not. UUT is tied to a company that provides the utility. If you make your own energy, you do not pay the company to do so.
      A big caveat though is that some cities started to tax solar roofs, likely in lieu of UUT.

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    2. The city wants you to voluntarily pay the UUT on the electricity you generate. Next the are going to want you to pay a fee for using a clothes line. Have solar......not going to give the city one cent in UUT.

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  8. I am confused about solar even tho I have looked into it. You still have to pay Edison, right? And the savings may only be $25.00 unless you can sell the energy back? (That savings depends on the amount of your bill) You also have to be south facing, if not, the amount you make is way less. I know that solar is a good thing, but for now, how much do you really save? There are no storage batteries, yet, right?

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    1. Last question first:
      There are storage batteries, plenty of them.
      https://www.altestore.com/store/deep-cycle-batteries-c434/

      The amount you pay depends on the difference of your energy produced vs. used.
      http://energy.gov/energysaver/planning-home-solar-electric-system

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    2. Batteries? Get a flywheel: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-flywheel-design/

      Just don't install it in the garage or spare bedroom. A catastrophic failure of a 340kg mass rotating at 12-14,000 rpm will take out your house and part of the neighborhood.

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  9. Actually, 8:01, four things in life are certain:

    (1) Death;
    (2) Taxes;
    (3) Cheapskates who don't want to pay for the services government provides--from national defense, to roads and bridges, to water and sewers, etc--will whine about taxes; and
    (4) Cheapskates will attack those who point out their whining.

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    1. Stop whining.

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    2. As expected,12:16(2): Item (4)

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    3. Here. Have a hankie.

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    4. 12:16 - whining about whining is still whining.

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    5. 12:16 sounds like a leftie - when there's the truth only two things in life are certain, death & taxes, he has to "improve" by adding two more!

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    6. i certainly don't want to pay for our national 'defense' at the current ridiculous levels

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    7. We need to stop getting into oil wars. Nobody has gone to war over solar panels.

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  10. It's OK. The sun will come out tomorrow. The solar panels will work when Edison will not.

    By the way, tomorrow is just a day ...

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  11. Once again for profit companies supported and protected by California laws and legislatures in Sacramento are being supported by tax payer and rate payers, these for profit companies Edison & So Cal Gas screw up they just raise the rates to protect their profit margin, but if you or I and a company we ran fouled up the state would take all our money and assets to make up the difference of what was owed due to our mistake and mistakes.

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    1. If you can't beat them, join them. Buy some of their stocks. If you hold them long-term, you get your payments covered by your dividends.

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    2. The big utilities are losing business share by the truckload. Tell you what, you buy their stock. That way we get to feel sorry for you later on.

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    3. 10:31
      Please explain how a monopoly can loose business share.

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    4. When it gets competition.

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