Monday, September 26, 2016

Los Angeles Times - Scope of Trump's falsehoods unprecedented for a modern presidential candidate

He even lies about his weight.
Mod: A little reading to help you get up to speed for tonight's Presidential debate. Remember, if Donald Trump's lips are moving, he's probably lying.

Scope of Trump's falsehoods unprecedented for a modern presidential candidate (Los Angeles Times): Donald Trump says that taxes in the United States are higher than almost anywhere else on earth. They’re not. He says he opposed the Iraq war from the start. He didn’t.

Now, after years of spreading the lie that President Obama was born in Africa, Trump says that Hillary Clinton did it first (untrue) and that he’s the one who put the controversy to rest (also untrue).

Never in modern presidential politics has a major candidate made false statements as routinely as Trump has. Over and over, independent researchers have examined what the Republican nominee says and concluded it was not the truth — but “pants on fire” (PolitiFact) or “four Pinocchios” (Washington Post Fact Checker).

Trump’s candidacy was premised on upending a dishonest establishment that has rigged American political and economic life, so many of his loyalists are willing to overlook his lies, as long as he rankles the powerful, said Republican strategist Rob Stutzman.

“It gives him not only license, but incentive to spin fantasy, because no one expects him to tell the truth,” said Stutzman, who worked against Trump during the primaries. “They believe they’re getting lied to constantly, so if their hero tells lies in order to strike back, they don’t care.”

Still, Trump’s pattern of saying things that are provably false has no doubt contributed to his high unfavorable ratings. It also has forced journalists to grapple with how aggressive they should be in correcting candidates’ inaccurate statements, particularly in the presidential debates that start Monday.

Nonetheless, the scope of Trump’s falsehoods is unprecedented, and he is dogged in refusing to stop saying things once they are proved untrue.

BuzzFeed unearthed an audio recording showing that Trump backed the Iraq invasion and a 2011 video in which he called for swift military action against Moammar Kadafi, then the leader of Libya. In the months since those disclosures, Trump has lied dozens of times on both issues, saying he opposed the use of force in Iraq and Libya.

Trump campaign spokesmen Hope Hicks and Jason Miller did not respond to an email requesting comment on Trump’s history of falsehoods.

Thomas E. Mann, a resident scholar at UC Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies, said Trump appears to recognize that a faction of the Republican Party has lost respect for facts, evidence and science — presuming, for example, that anything negative said about Obama is probably true.

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Peep.

$100s of Millions of Dollars Paid to Donald Trump by Russian Oligarchs (ABC News): Donald Trump and his children have for years promoted themselves and their real estate opportunities in Russia and other former Soviet states, and ethics experts say if he is elected President the get-tough U.S. sanctions against Russia could be in direct conflict with his business interests.

Trump has said he will not participate in decisions about his business if he is elected to the White House and that those decisions will be left to his children in what they have called a “blind trust.” But Richard Painter, a University of Minnesota law professor who served as ethics advisor to Republican President George W. Bush, said the arrangement would not fit his definition of a blind trust, and appeared ripe for potential conflicts.

“I don’t see how you have a blind trust when you know what’s in the blind trust,” Painter told ABC News. “The appearance is that a foreign government or other foreign organization has influence over the president of the United States through financial dealings with his family and that would be unacceptable.”

As questions have been raised about Trump’s business interests with Russians, the candidate has sought to distance himself from Moscow.

“For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia,” he wrote on Twitter in July.

He later told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “Will I sell condos to Russians on occasion? Probably. I mean I do that. I have a lot of condos. I do that. But I have no relationship to Russia whatsoever."

But an ABC News investigation found he has numerous connections to Russian interests both in the U.S. and abroad.

“The level of business amounts to hundreds of millions of dollars -- what he received as a result of interaction with Russian businessmen,” said Sergei Millian, who heads a U.S.-Russia business group and who says he once helped market Trump’s U.S. condos in Russia and the former Soviet states.

“They were happy to invest with him, and they were happy to work with Donald Trump. And they were happy to associate—[and] be associated with Donald Trump.”

Mod: Yes, Lyin' Donald Trump's sedition will be discussed at tonight's debates. For the rest of this ABC News article click here.

Feds investigating Trump advisor’s meeting with Russian officials seeking to influence U.S. election (Think Progress): U.S. law enforcement is looking into Donald Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page’s meetings with high-ranking Russian officials this summer, Yahoo’s Michael Isikoff reports.

Page, who Trump said was one of his five foreign policy advisors last March, is suspected of communicating with “senior Russian officials” about “the possible lifting of economic sanctions” if Trump becomes president, Yahoo reports, citing “multiple sources who have been briefed on the issue.”

One of the officials Page allegedly met with, Igor Diveykin, is “believed by U.S. officials to have responsibility for intelligence collected by Russian agencies about the U.S. election.” Russia is widely believed to be behind high-profile computer hacks that appear timed to influence the presidential election.

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60 comments:

  1. Let the circus begin.
    Hillary's name could be substituted in any of the articles written,especially Libya. She and Obama choose to leave Kadafi in place. While Ambassador Steven and four other Americans were being murdered; Hillary called for a fashion change before sending in help. Then blamed the "stand down "order on a video.
    Then there's the e-mail. Hillary's lists of lies have out weighed anything that could be spewed about The Don.
    Presidential alert: Trump is ahead in the polls.
    Time for change ; not time for status quo.
    VOTE TRUMP

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    1. Looks like your brain has been on the Trump diet.

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    2. Lots of fat in that noggin.

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  2. It is always so surprising that anti Trump is such big liberal issue and there is a need to publicize so much information. Why not let people make up their own minds without all the diatribe... Guess the real story is that Hillary is in TROUBLE. Keep making public notices, it only helps Trump even more!!!!

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    1. Yeah, there is nothing like having a candidate's lies aired out in public to help his cause.

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    2. You demonstrate once again the wisdom of Trump's claim that he could commit murder and he wouldn't lose a vote.
      His supporters live in a fractured perception of reality where facts are a choice.

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    3. Don't need to be liberal to oppose Trump... Just rational.

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  3. Theoretical question: How does the United States defend itself if a presidential candidate known by intelligence services to be an agent of a hostile foreign government wins the election?

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  4. If it is Hillary in the oval office after the November election. The White House dressers will give her a re-do. Every President and first lady gets one. Thank goodness; no more Nehru pant suits.

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    2. Why are so many Trump voters women haters?

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    3. Nothing is more important about a woman than whether you like to look at her or not, right 8:26?

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    4. Good question, 10:09.
      Many Trump supporters seem to be the kind of men who are in the Marilyn Monroe 1950's fan club. Woman as pretty, helpless doll. They're doing their best to ignore the last 60 years.

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    5. Trump is running the most reactionary campaign in US history.

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    6. Trump campaign actually patterned on the Nixon playbook. Really.

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  5. You will lose on Hillary much the same that you lost on the No on UUT vote.

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  6. Challenge Status Quo

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    1. They're both status quo.

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    2. One of them is status quo in politics.
      The other is a reality TV shill. There has got to be someone making decisions for Trump, because he so clearly is not capable of that himself; but who is operating him? Who on the right are enemies of the Koch brothers?

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    3. The fear many Republicans have is that Dumb Donald is taking orders from overseas. His foreign debt load is immense.

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    4. I don't think it has to be that wackadoodle an influence. I think it's a homegrown power behind the throne wannabe. Someone who will benefit by having a Trump puppet.

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    5. Bush architects of the Iraq invasion (which squandered our tax dollars and killed so many thousands more lives then Benghazi) all back Trump. A vote for Trump is the status quo.

      Don't be a chump- dump Trump.

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  7. Hillary, a life time politician. Attorney.
    Donald, first venture into Government politics. Businessman.
    Hillary is status quo. Everything remains the same.

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    1. Just because he's loud doesn't mean he isn't a part of the status quo. Trump is one of the nation's leading consumers of tax breaks. Trust me, his snout is firmly planted in the trough.

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    2. I have a feeling all these pro-trump posts are coming from one overexcited person.

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    3. I think the person is determined. He's chosen to believe a particular kind of information, and will not allow anything that contradicts that information. Difficult to imagine how that mind-set can generate an ability to carry on any real dialogue at all.

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  8. John Oliver did a great job in comparing scandals:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI

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  9. Don't fret 8:26am. After November 8th; none of us will have to look at her!

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    1. Yes. Instead we get a loudmouthed lying know nothing real estate developer.

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  10. give me the fat lover of russia!September 26, 2016 at 10:51 AM

    what a shock. team Hillary has gone to name calling. while engaging in fat shaming trump. that's all she's got. more of the same stuff and name calling. if you think things are great, vote for Hillary and let's have a party for the next four years. woo. woo.

    I am voting for change, and the guy who actually has an agenda designed to help the common person. he's not a republican. he's not a democrat. he doesn't need the job. he just wants to help. like he did when as a young man he built that beautiful skate rink in central park. and apparently the nation is moving in that direction. the god of political stats - nate silver - now has trump with a 51% chance of winning if the election were held today. don't tell Hillary, she might get the vapors again, and you need her at her best tonight!

    ps: while I called out fat shaming, I believe fat shaming is appropriate. this is because being fat shows that a person is lazy and likes food way too much. we should encourage fat people to exercise and eat less. that's what I do with my kids when they show any softness around the middle. but if trump is fat, Hillary is equally fat. those pants suites are most definitely portly short. so weight would seem a neutral factor. and trump is certainly way more energetic.

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    1. Sorry slim. It's not the fat it's the fib. The Orange Balloon got caught lying about his weight. It would be fib shaming, but Trump isn't big on taking responsibility for his BS.

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    2. vote for putin, i mean trump!September 26, 2016 at 11:19 AM

      john, if you are fib shaming and not fat shaming, why did you illustrate this with a totally cut dude at 190 (there are lots of fat 190 guys) and with a totally disgusting fat guy at 280 (there are lots of cut 280 dudes, like the duane the rock johnson)?

      and why have you become such a stooge for the man? Hillary is the walking, yelling, and money grubbing embodiment of the establishment.

      but enough of that. let's get back to calling trump backers racist and sexist.

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    3. I feel sorry for you to be so hoodwinked like this.

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    4. 11:19 - Fat is something everyone understands. It is a good way to illustrate the sad pathetic lie this candidate told.

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  11. The laborers this philanthropist hired to build that rink....what do you know about them? Or would factual information be too much of a drag for you to look at?
    Clinton does not claim to weigh 100 pounds less than she does. But her sin is not being up to your standards. Again, try to get an idea that there could be more to a woman than her appearance.

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    1. Trump as philanthropist? God help us all.

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    2. It ain't the fat, it's the fibs 11:12.

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  12. Vote for the winner, get on the Trump train

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  13. How much do skinny people throw up? Boy; we certainly have reached a new shame level round the table of meat and potatoes politics.

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  14. A few lawn signs are up here and there - not a lot yet. But I've just seen the Trump banner. It's a very large piece of material, maybe 3 feet by 5 feet, blue, draped over a porch. The Make America Great Again slogan is proudly displayed on an obviously wealthy family home. One thing about the Trumpers - they do not get irony.

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    1. VAMOS EL GORDO JEFE TRUMP!September 26, 2016 at 11:57 AM

      there will be no trump yard signs. nor bumper stickers. do you really want to risk having you house egged or your car keyed? which, of course, would be justified as displaying such a sign would make you a deplorable racist, sexist, etc. and for what? the state is a lock for Hillary.

      that said, we love the good doctor's trump sign, and always stop and give it a respectful thumbs up when we drive by it.

      now, it's time for lunch. I will devour a 300 calorie trader joe's Pasadena salad and then go to the gym for a 1 pm cardio/strength workout. is suggest all you chubby Hillary supporters follow my lead so you don't end up bankrupting the health care system in you old age.

      as eric the actor would say, "good bye for now."

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  15. how much you wanna bet that if lester holt asks Hillary how much she weighs she tells a BIG, FAT LIE!

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    1. You mean like Donald did?

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  16. Do you mean laborers that waited their turn for citizenship in this Country or those that butt in front of those waiting for their citizenship? What other Country in the World gives too much of itself? ( English only snobs feel free to correct ! This is a free Country)
    Hillary is crooked and will lie to get whatever she wants. Appearance is irrelevant; lying is not.

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    1. Trump lies constantly. Apparently you do as well.

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  17. OK, we get it, you don't like Trump.

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    1. A lot of people have trouble with lying pols. Trump is one of the worst ever.

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  18. Most polls are showing a tie. What is Hillary offering besides it's my turn.

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    1. She's not the pumpkin spice madman.

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  19. I think one of the reasons the Trumpkins seem so shocked by what was posted here today is they usually only get their news from one source. They have no idea what the rest of the world is saying.

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  20. Hillary: if its good for the Stock Matket and good for Corporations , she all for it. Hillary first supported the TTP and NAFTA.
    Hillary doesn't support Vetting Immigrants.
    Hillary can't recall how to secure a Government line for communications.
    Hillary cannot recall which lie she has told in order to cover more lies.
    Hillary knows what the rest of the World is saying; she had boat loads of money "invested" from "them", for her foundation of " you pay to play".

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  21. Quote of the debate: "I am going to hold people accountable", I am going to appoint a special prosecutor" to ensure that environmental energy will be affordable; it hasn't happened in thirty years; but it will be affordable.

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  22. Watching the debate now.
    Trump repeats himself, no new ideas, exaggeration, argumentative, defensive about his taxes, now showing his racism...
    Pathetic man

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  23. IMPLICIT BIAS:
    Yes, too many of us are bias.
    Mental health concerns.
    Hillary's brilliant
    Trump just does not understand......

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    1. What? Do you mean too many of us are biased, because of mental health issues?

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  24. Why do Trump supporters hate women?

    Trump supporters hate women because the women in their lives are either supporting them or left the whiney self-emasculating crybabies who refuse to retrain themselves now that the fat cats like Trump have shipped those jobs daddy or coach promised they would have forever have been shipped overseas.

    They can't hate the fat cats like Trump, who they always imagined they would be like when they win the lottery (any day now). So they hate the women that have rejected them or earn more than them.

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  25. Trump is probably on the phone with the NRA.

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    1. Actually, Trump is on the phone with Putin.

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    2. Okay, but then the NRA. "What I meant to say was..."

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  26. Both candidates have a lot of negatives and spent way too much time bashing each other intead of detailing their plans on the issues. While he might be overzealous on the immigration problem, she wants to keep them coming. We cannot feed, house, clothe and give medical care & jobs to our own citizens. With the number of unemployed Americans, and worse, unemployed, homeless VETERANS, we have no business laying out the welcome mat for anyone else right now. Immigration must be properly addressed and we must stop the hemorrhaging of immigrants freely flowing in (both legal AND illegal) until we get a handle on who is here now, and assessing and addressing the needs of our veterans, seniors, children and individuals & families suffering as working poor or unemployed without hope.

    I don't care what the lying pantsuit or the offensive orange say about each other. I don't care that Beyonce likes one and Ted Nugent supports the other. I care that my loved ones can find jobs they're qualified for that pay enough to support themselves, that veterans are given preference in social service situations over the "undocumented", and that illegal immigrants are never again handed a voter registration form with their drivers licence application or their welfare renewal forms.

    A woman president would be historic and groundbreaking. Just not her. A reality showboater is not someone to be proud of either, but at least its not another political insider extraordinaire slipping off the FBI's hook once again.

    America does need to be made great again, or at least stop failing. I've seen job applicants with "text speak" abbreviations on their resumes and people complaining of discrimination because there are no gender neutral restrooms in a medical office. Pathetic. The dumbing down has got to stop as Idiocracy has become real in so many areas. Our choices in candidates are not ideal, but it's not like anyone else had a real chance.

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