Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Peace In Our Time? Donald Trump Brings President Obama and Bill O'Reilly Together for the First Time Ever

Mod: Can it be that there is a Nobel Peace Prize in Donald's future? 

Barack Obama and Bill O’Reilly Tell Donald Trump to Stop Whining (New York Magazine): There is broad, bipartisan consensus that Donald Trump’s sense of entitlement is in need of reform. The Republican nominee has spent the past two weeks trying to energize his base … by informing them that their votes probably won’t matter, since a cabal of international bankers — working in coordination with Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, a bunch of ugly, lying women, and “certain communities” in Philadelphia — will probably just rig the election, anyway.

Which is to say: The standard-bearer of the “party of personal responsibility” has spent most of this month blaming everyone but himself for his plummeting poll numbers.

Now, (virtually) everyone from Barack Obama to Bill O’Reilly thinks it’s time for Trump to end his tour of the whine country.

“You start whining before the game is even over?” Obama asked an imaginary Trump, incredulously, during a presser in the White House Rose Garden with Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi. “If, whenever things are going bad for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else? You don’t have what it takes to do this job.”

Obama went on to note the paucity of evidence for large-scale voter fraud in the United States — and how difficult such a scheme would be to pull off, given how decentralized the American voting system is.

On Monday night, Bill O’Reilly offered a more terse version of the same message, telling Stephen Colbert, that his recommendation to Trump was, “Stop whining … Nobody cares about the ‘rigged’ stuff.”

Mod: The rest of this inspiring account can be read here.

Dodgers' Adrian Gonzalez chose not to stay in a Trump hotel, but he didn't want it to be news (Los Angeles Times link): From behind the Dodgers bench, Adrian Gonzalez glanced at his teammates who were taking their first rounds of batting practice during an afternoon workout. He looked down and sighed.

Gonzalez was suddenly part of the national conversation about the upcoming presidential election, courtesy of actions he had quietly taken five months earlier.

The Mexican American first baseman had refused to stay with his team at a Chicago property owned by Republican nominee Donald Trump.

The story became known Sunday night, and some people on social media were celebrating him as a hero as he and the other Dodgers were preparing for their Tuesday showdown against the Chicago Cubs in Game 3 of the National League Championship Series 

Except … “I don’t want this to be a story,” the first baseman said. “I did it for myself,” he explained.

Gonzalez doesn’t want to be another Colin Kaepernick, who is kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality.

Gonzalez said that his views on social issues were a private matter. He might do something in protest, as he did when he asked the Dodgers to not provide Trump with business on his behalf, but he thinks that isn’t for anyone else to know.

“I wasn’t doing it for publicity, I wasn’t doing it for people to look at me or talk about me,” he said. “That’s not who I am. I just have my own values and morals that I want to live by.”

And there’s nothing wrong with that.

Mod: Just one more reason to love the Dodgers.

Clinton holds clear advantage in new battleground polls (Washington Post link): Based on the results from the 15 state surveys, along with assumptions of the likely outcomes in other states that have consistently voted for one party or the other, Clinton, the Democratic nominee, holds leads of four percentage points or more among likely voters in states that add up to 304 electoral votes.

Trump, the GOP nominee, has the advantage in states with an estimated electoral vote total of 138. Arizona, Florida, Ohio and Texas, which account for 96 electoral votes, remain as toss-ups. All results in the 15 state surveys are based on ballot tests that include Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein.

The results underscore the importance for Trump of Wednesday’s final presidential debate, in Las Vegas. National polls have moved in Clinton’s direction since the exchanges began in late September. Her current average margin is seven points in polling averages from the Huffington Post Pollster and RealClearPolitics.

The effect of the shift toward Clinton in national polls is evident in the new 15-state study. In late August, The Post, using SurveyMonkey’s online methodology, conducted individual polls in all 50 states among registered voters. At that time, Clinton led in states that added up to 244 electoral votes, while Trump led in states accounting for 126. Toss-up states equaled 168 electoral votes.

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74 comments:

  1. I don't see why not. Mr Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize only after being in office two weeks. He received it for being the first half Black President.

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    1. Your animus towards Obama is obviously race based. That can be seen in a lot of Trump supporters.

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    2. I saw it as a preemptive strike to pursuade the US not to invade any new countries.

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    3. Trump was for the war in Iraq before he was against it. Though he now lacks the honesty to admit it.

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    4. The Obamas were well aware of the premature nature of the award. In fact, Michelle Obama said that it was great and that someday maybe he'd deserve it. In other words, they acted with their usual honesty.

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  2. John Kasich skewers Donald Trump's "silly" rigged election claims

    Former Republican presidential candidate and Ohio Gov. John Kasich is hitting back against the claim that the election is “rigged” -- an allegation that GOP nominee Donald Trump has repeatedly made in recent days.

    When asked in an interview with “CBS This Morning” early Wednesday whether he believed Trump’s assertion of a cooked election was correct, Kasich replied with an emphatic “no.”

    “Look, to say that elections are rigged and all these votes are stolen -- that’s like saying we never landed on the moon, frankly,” said Kasich. “That’s how silly it is.”

    Kasich joins the growing chorus of voices blasting Trump’s unfounded claims -- a group that includes House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-skewers-donald-trumps-silly-rigged-election-claims/

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  3. Clinton Has 9-Point Lead as Comeback Obstacles Loom for Trump
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-19/national-poll

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  4. Trump has destroyed his own brand to a point where from here on he'll be relegated to the fringe like Glenn Beck, Michael 'Savage' and other extremist fear/hate monger.

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    1. Trump's "movement" is well on its way to becoming just another fringe hate group.

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    2. ‘The panic is beginning’: GOP strategist Steve Schmidt predicts Election Day disaster for Republicans

      Republican strategist Steve Schmidt sees a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and possible Democratic majorities in both the U.S. Senate and House.

      Schmidt told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday morning that Clinton was currently “trending over 400” electoral votes, based on recent polling, and he said Republicans are freaking out over the real possibility of losing their majorities in both houses of Congress.

      “If this election was today, I think Republicans are down 25 seats (in the House), as of today — with the trend line going in the wrong direction,” Schmidt said.

      He said the internal numbers of recent polls are not good for Republicans, and he predicted Democrats would retake the Senate and could possibly regain a majority in the House for the first time since 2009.

      http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/the-panic-is-beginning-gop-strategist-steve-schmidt-predicts-election-day-disaster-for-republicans/

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    3. Even REDSTATE is reporting Trump's Death Plunge
      http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/10/19/hillary-clinton-huge-advantage-state-battleground-polls/

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  5. Hmm I guess we don't even need to read or comment on the article anymore?
    Maybe Mod. should just publish a headline "Trump is not presidential material" someday and see what happens.

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    1. I love tacos and their trucks.Seems relevant.......

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    2. Correct - you don't need to comment.

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  6. Hey 6:06 am. Which half is race based; the black or white. Careful, your insecurties about the bubble that you live in, is showing.
    Obama did nothing to earn the Nobel Prize. But; obviously neither has any woman. Only men have been awarded this title.
    What do you call that? Sexist; from the very institution that deems an individual worthy of representation. Explain your thoughts; inquiring minds would like to know.

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    1. Not only are you a bigot, but an ignorant one as well.
      List of female Nobel laureates
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Nobel_laureates

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    2. Your lack of grammar is showing.

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  7. Trump is headed toward a major loss. The GOP can’t say it wasn’t warned.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-headed-toward-a-major-loss-the-gop-cant-say-it-wasnt-warned/2016/10/18/b85a719a-9590-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html?utm_term=.feaa8b6365a5

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  8. The United States Military has never "invaded " a Country. Our involvement has always been a strategic decision made by the Executive Branch of Government. This is why the City Mosul is being fought over and over again. This Executive Branch; was for "it" before they were against "it". Now; once again they are for "it"again.
    If this Country is heading towards Isolation as its interest; this Country should also stay out of giving any monetary, food, water, medication, shelter. Etc.
    Is this what you are saying, by using the word "invade"?

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    1. Who said the word "invade"? I'm confused. Or I'm blind!

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    2. I can't understand what you are saying. Please organize your thoughts and try again.

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    3. We (the USA) have invaded;
      (1) American Indian nations (1776 onwards, American Indian Genocide; 1803, Louisiana Purchase; 1844, Indians banned from east of the Mississippi; 1861 onwards, California genocide; 1890, Lakota Indians massacre), (2) Mexico (1836-1846; 1913; 1914-1918; 1923), (3) Nicaragua (1856-1857; 1894; 1896; 1898; 1899; 1907; 1910; 1912-1933; 1981-1990), (4) American forces deployed against Americans (1861-1865, Civil War; 1892; 1894; 1898; 1899-1901; 1901; 1914; 1915; 1920-1921; 1932; 1943; 1967; 1968; 1970; 1973; 1992; 2001), (5), Argentina (1890), (6), Chile (1891; 1973), (7) Haiti (1891; 1914-1934; 1994; 2004-2005), (8) Hawaii (1893-), (9) China (1895-1895; 1898-1900; 1911-1941; 1922-1927; 1927-1934; 1948-1949; 1951-1953; 1958), (10) Korea (1894-1896; 1904-1905; 1951-1953), (11) Panama (1895; 1901-1914; 1908; 1912; 1918-1920; 1925; 1958; 1964; 1989-), (12) Philippines (1898-1910; 1948-1954; 1989; 2002-), (13) Cuba (1898-1902; 1906-1909; 1912; 1917-1933; 1961; 1962), (14) Puerto Rico (1898-; 1950; ); (15) Guam (1898-), (16) Samoa (1899-), (17) Honduras (1903; 1907; 1911; 1912; 1919; 1924-1925; 1983-1989), (18) Dominican Republic (1903-1904; 1914; 1916-1924; 1965-1966), (19) Germany (1917-1918; 1941-1945; 1948; 1961), (20) Russia (1918-1922), (21) Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999), (22) Guatemala (1920; 1954; 1966-1967), (23) Turkey (1922), (24) El Salvador (1932; 1981-1992), (25) Italy (1941-1945); (26) Morocco (1941-1945), (27) France (1941-1945), (28) Algeria (1941-1945), (29) Tunisia (1941-1945), (30) Libya (1941-1945; 1981; 1986; 1989; 2011), (31) Egypt (1941-1945; 1956; 1967; 1973; 2013), (32) India (1941-1945), (33) Burma (1941-1945), (34) Micronesia (1941-1945), (35) Papua New Guinea (1941-1945), (36) Vanuatu (1941-1945), (37) Austria (1941-1945), (38) Hungary (1941-1945), (39) Japan (1941-1945), (40) Iran (1946; 1953; 1980; 1984; 1987-1988; ), (41) Uruguay (1947), (42) Greece (1947-1949), (43) Vietnam (1954; 1960-1975), (44) Lebanon (1958; 1982-1984), (45) Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011), (46) Laos (1962-), (47) Indonesia (1965), (48) Cambodia (1969-1975; 1975), (49) Oman (1970), (50) Laos (1971-1973), (51) Angola (1976-1992), (52) Grenada (1983-1984), (53) Bolivia (1986; ), (54) Virgin Islands (1989), (55) Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003), (56) Saudi Arabia (1990-1991), (57) Kuwait (1991), (58) Somalia (1992-1994; 2006), (59) Bosnia (1993-), (60) Zaire (Congo) (1996-1997), (61) Albania (1997), (62) Sudan (1998), (63) Afghanistan (1998; 2001-), (64) Yemen (2000; 2002-), (65) Macedonia (2001), (66) Colombia (2002-), (67) Pakistan (2005-), (68) Syria (2008; 2011-), (69) Uganda (2011), (70) Mali (2013), (71) Niger (2013).

      As if it is somehow relevant.

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    4. You kidding? The US has a long sordid history of invading other sovereign nations.

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    5. The irony here is the Nobel Prize for Peace was established by he fellow who invented dynamite. From Wikipedia: Alfred Bernhard Nobel (/noʊˈbɛl/; Swedish: [ˈalfrɛd nʊˈbɛl] About this sound listen (help·info); 21 October 1833 – 10 December 1896) was a Swedish chemist, engineer, inventor, businessman, and philanthropist.

      Known for inventing dynamite, Nobel also owned Bofors, which he had redirected from its previous role as primarily an iron and steel producer to a major manufacturer of cannon and other armaments. Nobel held 355 different patents, dynamite being the most famous. After reading a premature obituary which condemned him for profiting from the sales of arms, he bequeathed his fortune to institute the Nobel Prizes.[1][2] The synthetic element nobelium was named after him.[3] His name also survives in modern-day companies such as Dynamit Nobel and AkzoNobel, which are descendants of mergers with companies Nobel himself established.

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  9. Condoleezza Rice has the last laugh in response to a report that Donald Trump called her a 'b*tch'
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/19/1584377/-Condoleezza-Rice-has-the-last-laugh-in-response-to-a-report-that-Donald-Trump-called-her-a-b-tch

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  10. 8:11 am Thank you I stand corrected on the award. Since its inception it has been awarded to fifteen Women; of notable Medical backgrounds.
    Why was it given to Obama? Also why are you discounting his lineage?

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    1. I think it is of far greater importance to know why the President's ethnicity is of such consuming interest to you.

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  11. Did all except one Dodger decide to stay at the Trump hotel? Did the Dodger organization, which did not know it would be playing in Chicago post-season until long after Trump's racism, misogyny, narcissism, and deplorable nature were will known, decide to do business with him despite those facts? If so, not much to love there.

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    1. I don't know? Why don't you make something up and get back to us? I'm an enabled white male he hasn't threatened me yet.

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    2. Make something up? What's the matter 9:14? Are you unable to deduce that since the Dodger did not know that they were playing Chicago until quite recently that they made a conscious decision to support him economically despite all his odious comments and beliefs? (Actually, it's induction, but I didn't want to confuse you further by using the word "induce.")

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  12. Clinton is against Trump, Ryan is against Trump, reality is against Trump, everybody is against Trump! His tantrum when he loses in three weeks will be epic. I hope we survive it.

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  13. 6:06am. I should mention that without knowing me, i find your accusation confusing. Yes; i support D. Trump and yes; i am of mixed birth. I should not have to defend my choices; because you have an opposite view. Unless your calling me out?

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    1. "I should not have to defend my choices; because you have an opposite view." If you state your choices here over and over (and over) again, chances are good you are going to be called on it.

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    2. Actually nobody asked and I assume nobody cares. You're of "mixed birth" English and German maybe? Why wouldn't you want to defend your choices? You little handed p***y grabber I'm calling you out

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  14. Sorry Obama haters. Despite what you think, he is indeed "in his place." The White House.

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  15. New Clinton TV spot: "Bully"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ6BfkqUWkw

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    1. http://adage.com/article/campaign-trail/vain-carly-simon-s-iconic-song-trump/306236/

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  16. I posted this for Trump supporters, but none responded. Defend him without referring to Hillary or rigged elections:

    Leaving aside for now Trump's complete lack of knowledge about the U.S. Constitution, American law and policy, international affairs and policy, his multiple business failures and bankruptcies, the thousands of lawsuits against him for failing to pay employees and small businesses, and his failure to pay any federal taxes for decades (forcing the rest of us to subsidize government expenditures for the infrastructure, law enforcement and courts, capital markets, national defense, and etc. that foster and protect his enormous wealth), let's hear Trump acolytes defend some choice words of their candidate.

    Please defend these Trump statements WITHOUT referring to Hillary:


    “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”
    On undocumented immigrants from Mexico.

    “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.”
    On Senator John McCain of Arizona, a former prisoner of war.

    “I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”

    “Now this poor guy, you ought to see this guy.”
    Mr. Trump jerked his arms around in front of his body and used a mocking tone to imitate a disabled New York Times reporter.

    “When people call you brilliant, it’s always good, especially when the person heads up Russia.”

    “I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

    “I don’t know anything about David Duke. O.K.? I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists.”

    “Look at those hands, are they small hands? And, he referred to my hands — ‘If they’re small, something else must be small.’ I guarantee you there’s no problem. I guarantee.”

    “The images are worth a thousand words.”
    A Twitter post with an unflattering image of Senator Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a glamour shot of Mr. Trump's wife, Melania.

    “I’ve been treated very unfairly by this judge. Now, this judge is of Mexican heritage. I’m building a wall, O.K.? I’m building a wall.”

    “President Obama claims to know our enemy, and yet he continues to prioritize our enemy over our allies and, for that matter, the American people. When I am president, it will always be America first.”

    “If we cannot be properly reimbursed for the tremendous cost of our military protecting other countries . . . then yes, I would be absolutely prepared to tell those countries, ‘Congratulations, you will be defending yourself.’”

    “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

    “If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably — maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”
    On the parents of a Muslim soldier killed in Iraq after they denounced Mr. Trump at the Democratic National Convention.

    “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

    “[Obama is] the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton.”

    “I moved on her like a b****. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony t*** and everything.”

    ““Grab them by the p**** … You can do anything. When you’re a star, they let you do it.”

    Let's hear the defense, again WITHOUT referring to Hillary.

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    1. For a start: Illegals are bringing drugs into the country. Witness the cartels, the tunnels, etc. Go after the American desire for these drugs. Illegals have committed various crimes including rape which includes young children. If only 5% of illegals commit crimes it is 5% too many. We have enough crime in this country to deal with. See Chicago.
      McCain has ridden the coat tails of being a war veteran for way too long. What has he done in all his years of "service"?
      I probably know more about ISIS than most generals. I'm a history major and I read.

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    2. More: Depending on your news source, Trump waving his arms had nothing to do with the disabled person.

      Waterboarding is worse than beheading? Or throwing gay men off the roof? Or rapid and stoning women? Or killing women and children in Kurdish villages?

      Comment about David Duke? What's your point?

      Did you bother to check the memberships of this Latino judge? You really feel he's not biased?

      Obama has not been kind to Israel and gave much bucks to Iran. Why?

      No excuse about Cruz's wife.

      What's wrong with charging countries that want our help? We need to meddle less in the world.

      30,000 e-mails missing? You really think China and Russia haven't been hacking for years? The sad part is that the e-mails were deleted. Why?

      Obama's leadership, or lack there of, caused ISIS. Sunni and Shites have never gotten along and probably never will. Obama should have known that when he made his power play.

      Locker room talk is never great. Does it happen? You bet? Is he the only man who has ever done it? Nope. Have other elected officials done it? You bet!

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    3. 9:07, thank you so much for having the patience and the strong stomach to put that material together.
      As for Trump supporters addressing any of it, it won't happen. They seem to believe something that precludes them from rational dialogue.

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    4. If the Anonymous person who claims they read a lot is the same poster who says Obama caused Isis… Then you should read more than comic bookstores so absolutely dim witted at best.

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  17. Anti-Semitic Posts, Many From Trump Supporters, Surge on Twitter
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/anti-semitism-trump-supporters-twitter.html

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  18. Thank you 9:07 for summarizing Trump's statements. I, too, have asked for rational reasons to support Trump without mentioning Hillary. Trump supporters, can you truly picture him as president?

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  19. Yes. Trump for President.
    No; i don't want Washington Politics as usual. Real tired of hearing the lies and watching the crimal actions being dismissed for the Elite group. Real tired of the Elites. Real tired of "more of the same".

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    1. Trump lives in a billionaire gold plated bubble staffed with servants. He is the elite. Problem is no one in either party will work with him so it's futile. But in truth he's playing you for a sucker. Still.

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    2. 11:18-you think Hillary is not an elitist? Really?

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    3. Are you able to wrap your head around the concept that both Trump and Clinton are elitists?

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  20. Hillary the real corrupt insider.

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    1. Yes. And a billionaire New York real estate developer with world wide financial holdings and thousands of lawsuits under his belt is just a poor guy in a tent camping on the edge of town. Crazy talk, 10:19. It's all insiders.

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    2. Hillary definitely an insider and corrupt to an extent. But not evil or inexperienced like trump

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  21. Hillary should take accountability of all of the DNC/ wikiLeaks and stop trying to pass the DNC thinking patterns onto "Russia".

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    1. How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President
      http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

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  22. The polls are split between Hillary Clinton winning and … Hillary Clinton winning in a landslide
    http://www.vox.com/2016/10/18/13311128/polls-trump-clinton-2016-winning

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  23. 9:28am. Try Dutch Indonesian. Now, let me hear your Asian jokes.
    What does Obamas sister identify with?
    Dont correct me on "Asian"; most "Elites "dont know the differance.
    Yes. I am voting for Trump.

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    1. With Clinton leading in the California polls by around 25 points don't expect your vote to have much impact.

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    2. It's California, what do you expect?

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    3. 11:37, you might want to try spellcheck.
      And thinking.

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  24. In the very least; i am not status quo. You like your premiums for Health Care. You like living with 2% job growth. You support Government Corruption ; and you support exploitation of the "poor and under privileged " by keeping the "needy "in their place and making false promises for "their" vote. No, i dont support Crooked Hillary.

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  25. 1:07pm. If tou continue your Hillary Elitism attitude towards others not born here; lets speak in another language. I speak four. What would you prefer? Is this "your Podesta DNC" moment?

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  26. Funny how Trump supporters can't reason and can't write coherently. Just like Trump's inability to speak a complete sentence or stay on one thought. Complete babble. Sad.

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    1. I am starting to think 2:03 is a spoof. Which is different from a troll.

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    2. The spoof went poof.

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  27. What we are seeing in Trump's behavior now is called "narcissistic rage":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury

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    1. He is an enormous tot.

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    2. It's so ironic that Clinton has spent her life learning and working and progressing to a very high level in her chosen profession, and now she has to debate a petulant, sluggish thinker.

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    3. Highlight of the debate so far: "Putin's puppet." Trump nearly shat.

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    4. Highlight for me, Clinton's list of all the things that are "rigged" against Trump.

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  28. Trump has gotten a handle on all that sniffing and snorting tonight. Allergy medicine?

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  29. Trump does not have the intellectual capacity to refrain from degenerating into personal attack.

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  30. Haha Hillary said Trump 'choked'!

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  31. Trump thinks he doesn't have to abide by the decision of the American people if they reject him. How nazi of him.

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    1. I'm pretty sure he just plain old crazy.

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