Thursday, November 24, 2016

Recount: A Political Junkie's Thanksgiving Wish

Mod: Remember before the election when there was considerable talk about Trump's pals in Russia hacking into America's vulnerable electronic voting systems and stealing the election for their favorite bottled blond? And how the results could then be changed to favor the candidate that they wanted to win? Well, evidence is now emerging that shows that just such a thing might have actually happened. Clinton's popular vote lead is now at 2 million, and people are asking questions. America needs to put the real winner in the White House

Election results may have been hacked in three swing states Trump won, activists want Clinton to seek recount (New York Daily News link): A prominent group of election lawyers and computer scientists said presidential election results in three swing states that Donald Trump won may have been manipulated or hacked, and are pressing Hillary Clinton to seek a recount, according to a report.

The group held a conference call last week with Clinton's top campaign lieutenants and lobbied for a challenge after finding something fishy in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, according to New York Magazine.

Members of the group told the Clinton camp that in Wisconsin, Clinton's vote count was down 7% in counties that relied on electronic voting machines when compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots, the magazine said.

A statistical analysis showed that under those circumstances, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes. Clinton lost the state — and its 10 Electoral College votes by 27,000 votes.

Wisconsin's metropolitan areas, where Clinton did well, use paper ballots. Rural Wisconsin, where she did not, relies on electronic machines.

Current tallies put Trump's Electoral College toll at 290 to Clinton's 232, a count that does not include Michigan's 16 vote because that contest was too close to call.

If the die-hards could successfully challenge Michigan and Wisconsin, that would bring Clinton's total to 258. Add the 20 electoral votes from Pennsylvania, if those results are successfully challenged, and Trump goes back to being a private citizen.

The deadlines to challenge in those states are all next week, but it was unclear if the campaign plans to call for a recount.

The magazine said the Obama administration is against a recount because it wants a smooth transition.

Mod: I, on the other hand, would like to find out who really did win this election. It is time for a recount in those three states. I hope it happens.

5AM Update: The Recount is moving forward
Mod: But it isn't Clinton that is doing it. Rather it is Jill Stein from the Green Party that has raised the needed cash and is filing with the three states in question.

Going where Clinton fears to tread?
Green Party's Jill Stein Raises Millions for Election Recount (NBC News link): Green Party nominee Jill Stein appeared to have met her initial fundraising goal early Thursday for recounts of the vote in three key swing states that went to Donald TrumpMichigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

However, she quickly raised the sum being sought by another $2 million. "Raising money to pay for the first round so quickly is a miraculous feat and a tribute to the power of grassroots organizing," a message on her website read.

The Green Party did not single out any specific evidence of fraud, nor does it need proof of irregularities to call for a recount. Stein's party won only 1 percent of the vote.

"After a divisive and painful presidential race, reported hacks into voter and party databases and individual email accounts are causing many Americans to wonder if our election results are reliable," Stein said on Wednesday. "These concerns need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified. We deserve elections we can trust."

Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Now Over Two Million (NBC News link): As additional votes have been counted in the presidential election, especially on the West Coast, Hillary Clinton's national popular-vote lead over Donald Trump now exceeds 2 million votes, according to an ongoing tally by the Cook Political Report's David Wasserman.

Hillary Clinton's vote total is 64,223,986 (48.1% of the vote), while Trump's is 62,206,395 (46.6%) - a difference of 2,017,591 votes (1.5%).

Mod: Things are about to get very interesting. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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62 comments:

  1. Every morning I wake up hoping the nightmare of a Trump presidency will end. Maybe we will have a happy Thanksgiving after all!

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    1. Not likely to happen. His pic for secretary of education is no swamp drainer- another billionaire faux religious elitist.

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    2. I dunno. Wisconsin will go first. If it flips all hell will break loose.

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    3. I wake up every morning hoping my nightmare of living in a city with someone of your mindset in close proximity ends.

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    4. Think whatever you like, but please stay out of my trash cans.

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  2. Do you understand the meaning of 2million more votes? This has never happened in history - something serious went wrong here.

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    1. Best and brightest?November 24, 2016 at 7:19 AM

      You mean Hillary is so stoopid she got 2 million more votes and still lost the election?

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    2. Recount, baby. Get your plastic underwear ready.

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    3. Yep, I'll tell you what went wrong. The Dems have had two weeks to shuffle in bags of illegitimate votes as a last ditch effort. Bah, humbug you say? Just look back at the Coleman/Franken election in Minnesota. Proof that the Dems operate with an absolute absence of integrity in virtually any election cycle. Incredibly poor losers in every respect.

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    4. Actually the Democrats have so far refused to go along with the recount. This is being done by the Green Party.

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    5. No justice No peaceNovember 24, 2016 at 7:45 AM

      It infuriates me that the right wing did not tell Team Hillary about that Electoral College thing before the election so that she could develop a plan to win it.

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    6. Actually we are about to find out if Trump really did win. Strap on your foil hat, things might get rough.

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  3. Yawn. I suppose all you ELITES will never get it. I will now push for a full investigation into Shrillary and all of the Clinton Empire law breaking misdeeds through out her entire Political career. Including that witch seen carrying the banner in the photo above. Figures that Hillary would be supporting and dabbling into the dark side. It fits her personality.
    She lost. Grow up. Move forward. Gobble Gobble.

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    1. Thanks, Mr. Turkey Misogynist. But not everyone agrees with you.

      Did Russia Hack The Election For Trump? Here's What People Are Saying...
      U.S. intelligence officials also say prior to the election, hackers based in Russia hacked two U.S. voter registration databases. And it is possible that Russian hackers managed to tamper with the election directly, potentially even hacking voting machines to change the votes. While some experts caution there's no concrete evidence to support this, it is clear that Russian hackers were determined to meddle with this election.
      http://gothamist.com/2016/11/17/russia_hackers_election_trump.php

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    2. If there is going to be questions posed about the election, it couldn't come from a better person. Jill Stein is in a perfect place to make these waves. I don't think Hillary should be anywhere near this. Because if it came from the DNC or Hillary, it wouldn't be about the recount. It would all be about Hillary.

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    3. Which House committee are you on 6:34? Or are you a federal prosecutor?

      "I will now push for a full investigation…." Thanks for the Thanksgiving Day chuckle!

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    4. Might be a turkey with an inflated ego.

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    5. Mommy mommy what's an 'ELITES'?

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    6. Anyone who walks on 6:34's lawn.

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  4. #45 is a fraud on all counts!

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  5. If you have a mind to, watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade (9 a.m. Channet 4) and you will see my Christmas Tree Tap Dancing sister-in-law with her group from Alameda, California. You go girl (and the entire team, including Jean-Pierre)!

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  6. Here's Adolph Hitler saying he'll 'make Germany great again' in 1934
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/23/1603405/-Here-s-Adolph-Hitler-saying-he-ll-make-Germany-great-again-in-1934

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  7. Much to be thankful for!!November 24, 2016 at 7:16 AM

    Today I would like to express my thanks to John for the Tattler and to all of my co-followers.

    I would also urge all of us to heed the words of President Trump who this morning noted that "it is my prayer, that on this Thanksgiving, we begin to heal our divisions and move forward as one country strengthened by shared purpose, and very, very common resolve."

    Amen, and may all of you have a blessed day in this greatest country on God's green earth.

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    1. Yes. We should all get behind President-elect Trump just like he got behind President-elect Obama eight years ago. That is, not at all.

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    2. Make America Great Again!November 24, 2016 at 7:30 AM

      Who?

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    3. Memory slipping a little there?

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    4. Make Trumpsgiving great again!

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  8. Obama was cozy with Russia and Putin in the beginning; until he embarrassed himself.
    California has roughly 39 million in population. Subtract the 2 million illegal votes cast from non citizens, yep. Donald still wins.

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    1. Illegals are not registered voters. Try again.

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    2. When in doubt, blame the Hispanics.

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  9. We need to abolish the electoral college.

    And change tennis to get rid of set scoring so if you win more points you win the match. No more tanking sets like Agassi.

    And change the college football playoffs so even if you lose a couple you get to go if you run up lots of points Against Little Sisters of the Poor Communty State.

    Once that is done we will be positioned to have Chelsea break the Glass Ceiling.

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    1. 7:37am. You receive the Turkey Blogger Award today. Not all illegals are Hispanic.

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    2. Hispanics are for Trump what Jews were for Hitler.

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    3. That's why we need to protect the complete and unfettered second amendment rights of our "Hispanic" brothers.

      Ps: Hispanic is what Gueros call Mexicans and Cubans when they are lumping us all in to one big brown blob.

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    4. Why would you refer to yourself as a "big brown blob?" Self-esteem issues because the man has got you down?

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  10. Trump did not win. Let us remember that. He will become Pres because the vagaries of a few States due to Voter suppression and perhaps hacking. Hillary beat him by over two million votes!
    I am tired of the lack of acknowledgement from all over that he really didn't win.
    I's Bush all over again.
    It won't stop him from screwing everything up, but at least we shouldn't treat him as legitimate.

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    1. Iam looking forward to watching the Macy's Parade @9:00am/ch.4. Nostalgia: Felix the Cat is back. I will watch for those Alameda Toe Tappers. Happy Thanksgiving.
      Thank the soldiers for keeping us safe.

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    2. Feliz must be trademarked or something. He is now "the black cat"

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  11. Anti-Trump presidential elector suing to unbind from state's election result
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/307481-anti-trump-presidential-elector-suing-to-unbind-from-states

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  12. Opp's. Do over. 7:37 am. I' ll be taking back that Turkey award and re award 7:58am.
    Tunning out and tunning in for the parade.
    Tirade later. Peace out.

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  13. Trump Make America Great Again Red Cap Collectible Ornament (Made in China)
    https://www.amazon.com/Trump-America-Great-Collectible-Ornament/dp/B01N67D8HO/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

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  14. Is Trump draining the swamp or importing some new piranha?
    Trump expected to tap billionaire investor Wilbur Ross for commerce secretary
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/24/trump-expected-to-tap-billionaire-investor-wilbur-ross-for-commerce-secretary/

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  15. Distraction in Websters was a big part of this election.

    distraction |dəˈstrakSH(ə)n|

    noun

    1 a thing that prevents someone from giving full attention to something else: the company found passenger travel a distraction from the main business of moving freight.
    • a diversion or recreation: there are plenty of distractions such as sailing.
    2 extreme agitation of the mind or emotions: he knew she was nervous by her uncharacteristic air of distraction.

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  16. Happy Turkey......
    https://medium.com/the-coffeelicious/were-all-a-little-on-edge-don-t-let-it-affect-your-thanksgiving-a86e7cc3e0f7#.a7kt2exx9

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    1. The best of days to all my friends and neighbors.

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  17. 8:54am. I love it, and Iam distracted by your ryping of uppside down, bbackward e's. Also the uupper and loweer case type. Sesame Float of try a little kindness just went by. Now, the Candy Man.... Almost time for Santa. Thank you Macy's and the New York of 90the years of fun. Happy Thanksgiving.

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  18. I am a life-long "platform" Democrat and I have friends who are registered Republicans. That I can understand, but what I cannot understand how any of them, of good moral character and philosophical convictions, could vote for Trump. He is a contradiction to all that I hold dear as an American citizen, born here, first generation on one side, pre-Revolutionary war on the other, Protestant on one side, Catholic on the other. Keep the discussion going--there will be no resolution to this any time soon.

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  19. Only those who hate the notion of a little 'd' democratic system will oppose a recount. SInce they prefer strong-arm tactics to steal elections, they should move to Russia rather than bringing Russian rule here.

    Hopefully, the recount will proceed. But this time the rightwing won't have a majority of conservatives on the Supreme Court to wrest the recount from the people.

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  20. 10:22am. I cannot understand why in this historical vote, that you did not "color outside the lines".
    The dynasties of "Bush and Clinton" and the lack of Congress working for all Americans, just received the message. Politicians are no longer "special" and above their constitutes no matter how much money is thrown into the mix.
    Besides, I like the guy.

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    1. Color outside the lines and cast my vote where? It may be that some electorial college votes got "Nadered." We will see.

      "...the lack of congress working for all Americans..." is not what I saw. I saw a Republican congress that simply would not put any of Obama's policies in place, to the detriment of their constituents, simply because they were Obama's. Stated this at the outset of his election, a nano second after the votes were in. Afordable Care for all was so polluted with Republican distain it is a wonder it is not worse. How can an advanced western country be so behind on health care for all? Come on, answer that. Please!

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  21. #Why Iam Thankful. Felix the Cat is back. He just floated by. Nostalgia rules. Everything in good time. Happy Turducken or Turfu with all the fixin's ta y'all

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  22. Tap dancing Christmas Trees, thanx toe tappers. Enjoy.

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  23. 10:22am. Since Trump was elected, the Stock Market keeps climbing. We will rid ourselves of Dodd/Frank.
    * First death of American Soldier in Syeria today.
    Bless freedom and those that pay the ultimate price.

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    1. Didn't Trump run as the enemy of Wall Street? Why would the stock market go up if their enemy was elected president?

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    2. Your freedom has nothing to do with that soldier's presence in Syria.

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    3. Why would any American have to die for Syria?

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    4. 3:37 - to protect the stock market

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    5. The fleets of America bound cargo ships from China filled with Trump products.

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    6. Stock market been climbing since Obama got elected. Bush and the Neocon republican really wrecked the place. Thanks Obama for eight years of steady gains.

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  24. 3:32, you obviously are not a very smart person or, you are new to this country.

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