Wednesday, November 16, 2016

The Electoral College Disenfranchises California Voters


As you can see by the Cook Political Report's latest presidential popular vote tally (link), Hillary Clinton's lead over her less admired rival, Donald Trump, now exceeds one million votes. And with millions more votes still to be counted from such places as California, New York, and other states where people actually live, that one million vote lead is projected to easily more than double.

California voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton. Currently her vote lead here is over 3 million, having taken nearly 62% of the state's total. And it was California's overwhelming rejection of the reactionary Donald Trump that gave her a national popular vote victory.

But since this didn't translate into enough Electoral College votes, it doesn't matter as much as it should have. Why is this? As it stands now smaller states are weighted far beyond what their population merits, which is how an alt-buffoon like Donald Trump can get fewer popular votes and still be handed the presidency. The deck is numerically stacked to favor places where far fewer people live.

If you want to see how discriminatory Electoral College weighting disenfranchises voters here in the Golden State, all you have to do is some very simple math. California has a population of 39,309,017 folks, and 55 electoral votes. This translates into one Electoral College vote for every 714,709 voters.

Idaho, with a total population of 1,595,728, receives 4 votes in the Electoral College. That translates into one Electoral College vote for every 398,932 people. Which gives that state proportionally far more voting power per person when it comes to picking a President of the United States.

Their votes count more than yours
Other near empty states have a similar advantage. Iowa, with a population of 3,074,186, receives 7 Electoral College votes. Or one for every 439,169 folks. Kansas has a total population of a paltry 2,888,905 troubled souls. With votes in the Electoral College, they get one elector for every 481,484 people. Arkansas, with a population of 2,949,132 and 6 Electoral College votes, gets one vote for every 491,522 of their citizens.

I think you get the point. Obviously when it comes to actually putting a President in the White House, your vote here in California counts for considerably less than someone from, say, the state that calls itself Famous Potatoes. Personally you have about 60% of the presidential electoral juice a voter in Idaho enjoys.

How do you feel about that? Do you enjoy being a second class citizen in your own country?  California is the world's sixth largest economy, and contributes exponentially more in tax money than any of the pokey states mentioned above. Yet people in those places have far more power than you do when it comes to picking a president.

They blew it badly blew this election. Which brings us to this interesting article:

Californians are calling for a 'Calexit' from the US — here's how a secession could work (Business Insider link): A political group in California wants to opt out of a Donald Trump presidency by leaving the union.

The Yes California Independence Campaign aims to hold a referendum in 2018 that, if passed, would bring California one step closer to becoming an independent country.

Far-fetched as it may sound, the plan started gathering steam after Tuesday night's surprising presidential vote. The movement has an impressive backer in Shervin Pishevar, a well-known angel investor who offered to bankroll a campaign to secede.

"As the sixth-largest economy in the world, California is more economically powerful than France and has a population larger than Poland. Point by point, California compares and competes with countries, not just the 49 other states," Yes California wrote in a statement.

Louis Marinelli, an outspoken political activist and president of Yes California, envisions California as a sovereign entity within the US, much like Scotland in the United Kingdom.

There is no clear path for how California might appeal to the federal government so that it may leave. The US Constitution lays out procedures for how a new state may enter the union, but there are no protocols for a nation to exit.

Marinelli, however, sees a workaround — with a ballot measure passed by California voters.

In 2015, Marinelli paid $200 each to get nine initiatives related to secession on a statewide ballot, according to The Los Angeles Times. None garnered the nearly 400,000 signatures necessary to appear on the ballot. So Marinelli and his followers are forced to start over.

Yes California now aims to gather enough signatures to put an initiative on the ballot in 2018, when Californians will choose their next governor, for a referendum in 2019

That certainly would be interesting. Bye bye Famous Potatoes.

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53 comments:

  1. Oh great a country without any water. That'll work.

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    1. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Morocco ...

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    2. None of those countries are great

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    3. If California dropped the fast choo choo and put the money into desalination plants there would be plenty of water.

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    4. California would be the largest insane asylum in the world!

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    5. Go brush your tooth, Goober.

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  2. Then the land of fruit and nuts will split Northern and Southern boundaries. You could then add Obamas count of the states, which was 51. That would really help out with the Electoral numbers. Elites rule! Fruit and Nuts over Potatoes.

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    1. I am sure those living in the land of meth and oxycontin will agree with you.

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  3. Rather prejudiced picture you posted, Mr. Mod. You really have gone over to the dark side! Way to unite!

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    1. Prejudiced against what?

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    2. So? Republicans are also disenfranchised in California. Democrats rule! Why do you think all those tax hikes went through in California?

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    3. The Republicans are disenfranchised in California because nobody votes for them. Considering the opposition that is quite a statement. But no, it is not like they win elections here and are then denied a seat in state government. They lose because few people in California can stomach them.

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    4. looks like jack sprat with wife...

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    5. They want to make America great again. And get to the Waffle House in time for the early bird special.

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  4. By square miles a larger portion of the state voted Trump last I saw.

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    1. If cactus, dirt and rocks could vote Trump would have done much better here.

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    2. Donald Trump just lashed out on Twitter over criticisms that he lost the popular vote
      http://theweek.com/speedreads/662066/donald-trump-just-lashed-twitter-over-criticisms-that-lost-popular-vote

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  5. Fake America's hope again, take America's dopes again, make America grope again.

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  6. Sacramento pushes for higher population density so we in Southern California have been pushed into a position where we are not sustainable in many areas. Water is the main problem. Food? Transportation is a big problem too.

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    1. Do you really think Antonovich, Barger or Huff opposed any if that?

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  7. 6:36am. The couple in the photo have natural smiles of joy on their faces.
    Hillary had to have lessons.

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  8. If California did become a sovereign entity, the Democratic Party would then sell the State to Hong Kong.

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    1. Schwarzenegger already did. Enjoy the 710 tunnel.

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  9. An article that stands out in all the post election autopsies is "President Trump: How America Got it so Wrong"
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/president-trump-how-america-got-it-so-wrong-w449783

    One of the points is the insular nature of political discussion, and the result that, "The People, whose intentions we were wondering so hard about, were all around us, listening to themselves being talked about like some wild, illiterate beast."

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    1. OK, but is it really correct to suggest that the great unwashed elected Trump because their feelings were hurt by what the commentators at the Huffington Post were saying?

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    2. Call some people stupid long enough, and they will git ya.

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    3. Unfortunately, they will end up being the ones that suffer the worst consequences. Not understanding your own interests, or the consequences of electing the wrong people, doesn't get you a free pass.

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  10. Wild illiterate beasts know the difference of attempting to normalize bad behavior.

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  11. So if the people of California want to secede they only want to secede so far. They can't really be a sovereign nation and have anything to do with Washington, D.C. As a sovereign nation, we certainly wouldn't have a standing army. So Mexico sort of would and we would be annexed to them. Which would bring about war. Great idea! This is really the first time that I can remember that California didn't really count in an election. Now we know what many other states felt and why the electoral college works. I am sickened that it has even come to this. It's okay for you to make fun of the people you assume of voting for Trump with stereotype pictures. You can do it, but no one else can. Such hypocrites! Pull up your big girl panties and deal with it. Destroying the Union is not an answer. Anymore than allowing Soros to convene a confab to figure out what went wrong. What is wrong with you people!

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    1. Nothing could be more hilarious than agitated fools like 8:50 whining about being a victim of political incorrectness. All the while likely feeling really special that a foul-mouthed racist swine like Steve Bannon is about to become Donald Trump's personal attendant. It is pretty obvious who is the hypocrite here.

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    2. Connecticut officials: Donald Trump supporters partied in KKK garb to celebrate election
      https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/connecticut-officials-donald-trump-supporters-partied-in-kkk-garb-to-celebrate-election/

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    3. Agitated fool, huh? If whining is happening, it's you. Again, you assume and you know what that means. It seems if anyone is "agitated" it just might be you. Tit for tat: I hear Hillary had a s--- hemorrhage on election night! Follow your leader!

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    4. There you go, back to your true form. It didn't take much.

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  12. It's about jobs. Hillary didn't get it. She talked about a "restart button" and a retraining for the future; while the Market never rose above 2% with 8 years of Obama.
    When Union workers cast their votes with the strongest Candidate, which was Mr. Trump; the Democratic Party is still scratching their Elite heads.

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    1. You know what is really deplorable? Your constant lying.

      If you own stocks, you need to thank President Obama
      http://www.businessinsider.com/president-obama-stock-market-performance-2016-6

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    2. Retraining (as suggested by Hillary) versus bringing back the coal mines (as suggested by Donald). No wonder she lost... Let's see how he is bringing them back.

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    3. Bring back the coal mines. Right. Just like he is "draining the swamp."

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  13. Do your election statistics factor in the fact that there were 3 million illegal voters? Bet they didn't vote for Trump! Did you factor in that once an election is called for a candidate that absentee votes, which are notoriously Republican, aren't counted? Also the same with many mail in votes. Talk about disenfranchised.

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  14. As a deplorable, I support ALL States being represented. I am proud that Iam not an elitist. The Founding Fathers got it right.

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    1. States are just lines drawn on a map. Voters are real people. There must be more elitists than deplorables because Clinton is winning the popular vote.

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    2. 10:21, you mean the part that only rich white land-owning men in wigs could vote?

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    3. The founding fathers were all elitists

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  15. IS CLINTON’S POPULAR-VOTE VICTORY UNPRECEDENTED? Yes. Clinton has already won the popular vote by a dramatically larger number of ballots than anyone in history who did not go on to be inaugurated as president.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clintons-popular-vote-victory-is-unprecedented-and-still-growing/

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    1. Actually.... maybe not unprecedented.... Gore was the first.

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    2. I think they're talking about the size of Clinton's popular vote win.

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    3. Trump was right - the election process is rigged

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    4. The midwest states and Pennsylvania were hacked by the Russians.

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  16. We are saddened as we watch our neighbors to the south fiddle as Roam burns.

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  17. hate to break it to you, but that Klan dude David Duke who endorsed Trump, when Duke ran for President most of his big donors came from the South...by that I mean Orange County

    paint it anyway you want, California has more racists and bigots by shear population than the rest of the country

    it's always the whiny white people - so enlightened and so full of bull methane

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    1. Orange County was carried by Clinton. Things have changed. Obviously you haven't.

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    2. South Orange County is still hugely Republican. It's the Irvine/Fullerton area that skewed it to Clinton. But you knew that.

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    3. The Orange County Republican rump.

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