Friday, November 25, 2016

USA Today: Jill Stein nears $4.5 million dollar goal to fund key-state vote recounts

Mod: Just in case you are not waiting on a long line for $89 dollar television sets at Wal*Mart this morning, we have a few follow-up stories for you. The first deals with the Green Party and its now successful efforts to fund presidential election vote recounts in the states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Three places of interest that some experts believe may have been hacked by as yet unknown parties on November 8, thereby undeservedly awarding the election to Donald Trump. Current popular vote totals show that Hillary Clinton won the election by over two million ballots, with millions more yet to be counted. Many of them here in California.

Jill Stein nears $4.5M goal to fund key-state recounts (USA Today link): Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein finished a distant fourth in the popular vote in the Nov. 8 election, but she is moving, after the fact, to play a role in the outcome.

Stein's campaign says it has raised enough money to pay for a recount of the presidential vote in Wisconsin, one of a number of states that surprisingly helped Republican Donald Trump win the election.

According to the Wisconsin Elections Commission, a lawyer for Stein's campaign has already told the commission it will formally request a recount by Friday's deadline.

Moreover, the Stein campaign is continuing to raise money to pay for recounts in two other crucial states: Pennsylvania, where the deadline is Monday, and Michigan, where the deadline is Wednesday. Trump won all three states.

Stein can request the recounts by virtue of having been a candidate in the election, where she finished behind Trump, Democrat Hillary Clinton and Libertarian Gary Johnson in the popular vote. However, she must bear the costs which, in Wisconsin alone, could approach $1 million.

As of early Thursday evening, Stein's campaign said it had raised more than $4.4 million toward a goal of $4.5 million to fund the three recounts. The campaign, which began the fundraising Wednesday, insists the recounts are not intended to help Clinton, saying:

"Election integrity experts have independently identified Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin as states where 'statistical anomalies' raised concerns. ... These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the U.S. election system is."

Mod: The following is the Sierra Madre Weekly's report on a potential hate crime in Sierra Madre. While the Sierra Madre Police Department's Detective Henry Amos continues to investigate this matter, no conclusions have yet to be reached.

Sierra Madre Gay Couple’s Car Vandalized (Sierra Madre Weekly link): Candice and Crystal Czubernat purchased a home on west Highland in Sierra Madre two years ago with the hope of bringing up their 2-year old twins in a peaceful city where everyone gets respect no matter what their sexual preference may be.

The tiny city of Sierra Madre has been known for years as progressive and tolerant. However now, the Czubernats feel they have been targeted and have experienced a post-election hate crime.

“We are one of the very few gay families in our town. We purchased a property two years ago in hopes of raising our young family in a safe community. Until recently, we have lived in that safe space. After the election, we led our 2- year-old twins in creating signs that signified our love and acceptance of all people. We did this in order to teach our kids about advocacy, standing up for the oppressed and how each person’s voice deserves to be heard,” Crystal Czubernat said.

“After hanging the signs on our porch, this weekend, my car was egged and a tire of our car was slashed. We are afraid and horrified.”

Czubernat immediately called the Sierra Madre Police Dept., who she said were “very kind, understanding and helpful … ”

The Czubernat’s were advised [by SMPD] while there is no immediate evidence of a hate crime – it may have been an adolescent prank. However, the couple believes they were targeted as a result of putting the signs on their porch which incited a negative reaction.

While no one was hurt in the incident, Candice and Crystal Czubernat’s family and friends want them to take the signs down. However, with mixed feelings the couple believes it’s imperative to not be beaten by hatred and therefore the signs will remain.

The police have put on extra patrols in the area since the incident and the city cleaned up the street outside their home. The couple hopes that other neighbors in Sierra Madre stand strong and not give in to what they judge as a hate crime. They ask that other couples who believe as they do also take a stand against oppression.

Ivanka Trump once said: "If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace" (Mic.com link): The president-elect has been known to say disgusting things about his daughter, most notably, that he'd be interested in dating her if he wasn't her father.

A newly uncovered quote from a 2006 Chicago Tribune piece revealed Donald Trump's eldest daughter, Ivanka, is definitely creeped out by her dad.

Writer Sarah Kendzior found and tweeted a screenshot of the piece on Thursday, in which Ivanka says: "If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace." The piece goes on to say Ivanka's statement was in response to "her father complimenting her figure."

MyNewsLA.com apparently believes that Donald Trump is a time traveller.


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78 comments:

  1. For the local news, let's let the SMPD finish their work. I'm not saying it is likely, but this could have been faked.

    Not to point lame and stupid holes into the story, but at any rate 2 year olds don't really contribute much to sign-making, especially ones with such exquisite penmanship as shown in the pictures above, and I don't know but a lot of the story seems odd for this town.

    I find it circumspect that anything like this would happen in SM, so I'm a bit skeptical about this whole story. Again, it's most probably not likely that it was faked, but I don't remember people getting egged and having their car tires being knifed over the local tax increase and that seemed to be more controversial. Seemed voting was over a simple plurality and then some in both local and presidential voting issues in town, so to me at least something is a bit fishy.

    At any rate, for all of us including that seemingly wonderful family, I hope nothing else bad happens and we can get back to normal here in SM. Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!

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    1. It is possible that they had an opinion they wanted to express, and did so in a way they saw fit. It is still a free country and they are allowed to do that.

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    2. I do value their opinion, I just wonder if the supposed attack truly occurred. To your timely and apt point, it is a free country, and I as such wish to express my possibly unpopular opinion. Nonetheless, it is up to the requisite authorities to suss out fact from fiction, and I wish them godspeed. If we are not to withhold opinion however, and the Star News seems to rush to judgement, in my opinion based on the assumptions posted above, I believe it is fair to post my opinions in addition. Well taken or not, however they may be.

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    3. The city sent some if its employees out to clean up the eggs. Obviously something happened.

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    4. The question is who did the damage, and whether it is a ruse. Yes, obviously something happened, but who was the agent in this town. A simple question, that is all. Demographics seem to belie the story so far.

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    5. There were attacks like this during the Measure V election. So yes, there is a precedent.

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  2. Let SMPD Solve this IncidentNovember 25, 2016 at 6:11 AM

    Seems weird, as even cold hearted I support their courageous stance for love and family and against hate and oppression.

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  3. Creepy Trump pictures.

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  4. No disrespect to SMPD, but determining if this is a crime or hoax requires federal expertise. We should call the FBI.

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  5. Who involved the press?

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    1. Great question 7:19

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    2. Nothing messes things up more than an informed public.

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    3. 5:32 - all kinds of bad things happened during Measure V times. Trump has tacitly given the okay to act out hatred. That picture of Trump is creepy, I agree.

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  6. There are two steps to a SMPD investigation of this kind.
    1) State that they cannot comment while an investigation is ongoing.
    2) Keep the investigation open until everyone has forgotten about it.

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    1. You forgot step 3 "the case has been forwarded to the detective bureau for review"

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    2. We have no comment at this time.

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  7. Just curious if anyone knows the crime statistics in Sierra Madre? I for one would like to know the numbers just to compare and evaluate. Would like to think that we are a town that would not tolerate this kind of behavior.

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    1. Sierra Madre often ranks among the 10 safest cities in California. Remember, this was also a cashless crime. The perpetrator made no money. That does raise the question of why this happened.

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    2. I'm sorry, but I find the "youthful exhuberance" explanation to be a little disturbing. This was an ugly incident and needs to be treated as such.

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  8. Like the FBI has time to handle something this small to them but something big to us. This should be handled properly at the local level. We have cameras and people around town that have seen things. I hope detective Amos is giving this the attention that is needed to solve this local crime quickly.

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  9. Why don"t the residents get more involved in the Home Owners Association so that all problems can be brought forward as one group instead of special interest people or groups needing to go to press for help?

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    1. This ain't Hastings Ranch there is no "home Owners" association thank God.

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    2. 'Special interest people'? They're just another suburban family what are you talking about

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    3. One that deserves both respect and protection.

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    4. Thats a great idea,I'm starting a homeowners association rn. Mail $25. a month in mandatory dues to me,Mike Pence,care of Planned Parenthood.

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  10. http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Sierra-Madre-California.html

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  11. Hello CSI County? We have a problem.

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  12. is groping no longer a crime?

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  13. Why did this happen? Could have just been kids that heard there parents talking. Could have been any number of things, let us not jump to any conclusions until we have a culprit. Come on PD, get em.

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    1. Tire slashing is a trend in younger circles these days?

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    2. You mean the spawn of bigoted,hateful,Trumpies? Just entitled children following the doctrines of their parents? Nice no real problem there.

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  14. The Star News picked up the story and added their take. I don't think the Star News Opions report will change the fact that "they"are have lost readership and have downsized office space. Let the Sierra Madre Police Department check on the egging and release findings.

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  15. 8:32am. No, but an affair on the side, or a teenage prankster. Could be the Canyon Phantom has now taken to wandering through town in search for new tires to slash. It's been happening in the canyon for years, with no stories written to bring attention.

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  16. Oh My Goodness, what a wonderful site 8:18. I could get a headache just going through it all. Did notice Sierra Madre missing on some places a looked up. This is going to be entertaining.

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  17. Photo on Trump, was during a walk on introduction from his daughter during early debates. Those Enquire and Star photographers are good at catching awark angles. Next year it will be sold as a "special greeting card", and sold in Italy.

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    1. Looks like he's grabbing something.

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    2. He is. His own daughter, too.

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  18. Not Home Owner's Associations but Sierra Madre does have Neighborhood Watch for nirghbor helping neighbor.

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  19. For many years Sierra Madre had a very strong and well attended Home Owners Association. Many of the City Ordinances were developed by individuals working together to strengthen the town.

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    1. Gee wiz I've only been here 64 years. Never heard of this very strong and well attended Home Owners Association. KKK,JBS,SMEAC,maybe book of the month club?

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  20. From Homeowners Association came the early discussion and development of Measure V.
    A few of us in town, cleaned up after ourselves after being egged more than once. Disposed of dead Rats left on doorsteps and there was an in incident of a mail box being blown up.
    The Star News could have cared less.
    After local news reported the Federal Mail box being exploded, the Star News ran a paragraph or two.

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    1. I hear the SMPD still has those under investigation and cannot respond at this time.

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  21. The Sierra Madre and Residents Homeowner's "Association" was not in conjunction with any particular built area that the term Homeowner's Association usually means to people. It was city-wide. Some 50 members of the group met with the lawyer for the Lawson Martin lot split on Chantry Flat Road (property later bought by the Mountain Conservancy for Open Space) and signed the easement language to keep the project from four lots to two lots. The early work of this group continues on in Preserve Sierra Madre.

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  22. Preserve Sierra Madre. Separate group.
    Please don't confuse or blend with Homeowners Association. Very different approaches.

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    1. Reading carefully is useful...10:04 stated "The early work of ths group continues on Preserve Sierra Madre..." not in anyway implying it was the same group. In between there was the long effort by another group to fight the high school at the top of Sierra Madre Blvd. know as 1 Carter. The long and encompassing name of the group was Sierra Madre Homeowners and Residents Association to include the whole town in issues that face homeowners (not associations of homeowners with CCRs) but an advocacy group to see that the town was not overdeveloped and that everyone's rights were considered.

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  23. 12:14pm. "You" have free will. No "one" makes or gives tacitly(?) Permission to act out. If "you" are prone to behave outside the "norms" of society, "you" may and should seek Professional help.

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    1. Hey, you're the Trump tramp!

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    2. "Trump" "tramp."

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  24. 11:57am. Do you think Bill's daughter and Donald's daughter may have more in common than just their friendship?

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    1. There you go. If Donald does something hideous, bring up Bill Clinton. Alt-Jackassery.

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  25. 1:33pm. What is it that disturbs you most? The Nursery Classroom level from which you comment, or that I can play right along with you from the same level of maturity? Remember one of the Golden Rules. No name calling and don't be a bully.

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    1. Trump supporters who don't understand what hypocrites they are.

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    2. Would you care to reference your hypocritical point, without hate sites such as KKK or Black Lives Matter, Russia etc.?
      I am interested in expanding my views as to why so much anger is continuing.

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    3. I can't imagine there anything living that is angrier than you.

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    4. Black lives matter is not a hate site. No way will I let you post such nonsense here

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    5. Haha you don't even know what the golden rules is silly little thing. It's do unto others before they do unto you.

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    6. The angriest people are usually those who accuse others of being angry.

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  26. Sad. I thought Jill Stein was not a "typical Politician". She did a photo op with North Dakota Tribes protesting Oil Pipe Line; even signed her name to a bulldozer.
    Now, she has monies raised in her name for a possible recount on election. What happened to fighting for Tribal Rights disputes, I am sure the money would make a differance in legal representation.

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    1. Protecting the integrity of the US electoral system from the hacks of hostile foreign powers and Quislings like you who enable them? Nah. Nothing noble in that.

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    2. But Trump said many times the election was rigged and so we must know for sure. Money well spent

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  27. The Democratic Party will try to run Jill Stein in four years. She'll keep the 5 mil and build up donations. The party of Green just got greener.

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    1. Wisconsin was filed today.

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    2. Democracy depresses the totalitarian personality.

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    3. Get ready to boo the hoo, 4:58.

      The Wisconsin Elections Commission announced Friday that it would hold a statewide recount of the presidential vote. The move was in response to petitions from two candidates, the Green Party's Jill Stein and independent Rocky Roque De La Fuente.

      Read more: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/25/503349326/people-have-donated-millions-to-jill-steins-recount-campaign-is-it-worth-it

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  28. Good grief 3:31. Where do I send my money to Jill Stein?

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    1. http://www.jill2016.com/postelection

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  29. The effort by Mz. Stein is not to invalidate the rigged election process it's for another reason I can't remember rite now, but I gave $11 I'm ready to rumble

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    1. Name calling is unkind and unnecessary, Glip Glop. Do it and you will have to clip clop.

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    2. I understand and will comply.

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    3. It's alright to flip flop on the alt-right drip drop.

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  31. It is so good to hear so many of YOUR (Moderator) followers are throwing good money after bad. Why not make a donation to a better cause that will actually benefit someone personally. Of course, that makes sense, something that is lacking most of the time on this blog when it has to do with Hillary or something about Trump. Even Obama told her to throw in the towel...wonder why???

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    1. You seem upset. What charity would you suggest?

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    2. Why the Trump Foundation is an excellent choice, it happens to be $25 million in the hole as of last week.

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  32. Nursery Schools have Golden Rules for the little Rug Rats. The Bible has a Golden Rule, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you - basically "I am my brothers keeper".
    From what has been reported and viewed by the Country, Black Lives Matter has been promoting hate. Maybe "the" method and messages need clarity. The generation of Martin Luther King is being silenced by anger.

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    1. Can you supply some examples of this "hate?" Honestly, based on what you've written here, you have a much different agenda than that of Martin Luther King.

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