Monday, November 21, 2016

After Pence Gets Booed At A Hamilton Performance, Tetchy Trump Gets His Twitter On

Mod: The following account comes from a website called Electoral Vote.com, which you can link to by clicking here.

Pence Attends "Hamilton," Controversy Ensues (link): Vice President-Elect Mike Pence decided to enjoy the spoils of office a little bit, taking in the hit Broadway show "Hamilton" on Friday from premium seats near the stage. The crowd booed Pence when he arrived, until being coaxed into stopping by the cast.

There were also Pence-directed boos at various points throughout the performance, such as when the line "Immigrants, we get the job done!" was delivered. At the conclusion of the performance, during the curtain call, cast member Brandon Dixon delivered a message to Pence on behalf of the cast that included this sentiment:

We sir, we are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights, sir. We truly hope this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and work on behalf of all of us.

Pence was clearly not pleased by the display, and on Saturday his boss leapt to his defense. Donald Trump took to Twitter to complain that:

Our wonderful future V.P. Mike Pence was harassed last night at the theater by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing. This should not happen!

And:

The Theater must always be a safe and special place. The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologize!

This brings to mind a number of thoughts. To start, anyone who believed Donald Trump when he said he would be weaning himself off of Twitter was clearly delusional. Second, Trump may have attended many plays in his time, but he has a shaky grasp on how the theater works. The stage belongs to the performers, who are (largely) free to do with it as they please (just as audience members are free to leave).

This often includes material that is not "safe" (see, for example, "Raisin in the Sun" or "Hair" or "Rent"). Finally, if Trump is going to respond to every slight against himself or the members of his administration, he's going to have a very busy four years. Will this serve to endear him to his base? Or will it grow tiresome, even to them? Odds are good that we're going to find out.

Trump Wants ‘Hamilton’ To Apologize. Here’s The ACLU’s Viral Response (Occupy Democrats link): Donald Trump has demanded that the cast of Hamilton apologize to Mike Pence for politely asking that he represent all of America’s citizens, no matter their race, sexuality, or religion. That was interpreted as an attack by our hypersensitive president-elect, who railed against the actors and actresses in an unhinged Twitter rant.

The American Civil Liberties Union, however, had something to say about it.



Donald Trump, America’s abusive boyfriend, has made a shameful habit of bullying anyone who dares to speak against him. With schoolyard put-downs and flagrant lies, he successfully gaslit perceived rivals into submission during the election campaign.

But he will find that as president, he will have a much harder time squashing the voices of the millions of Americans who will rise up to oppose him and his primitive brand of ethno-nationalist fascism.

The First Amendment of the Constitution is one of the few things still held sacred in this country, and if he thinks he’s going to use to powers of his office to silence dissent, he will find himself impeached rather quickly.

His tirade against the Hamilton cast shows that he is disgracefully unfit to lead this nation, and for him to clutch his pearls in offense at their legitimate plea to Mike Pence is the height of hypocrisy. He is, after all, the man who insulted literally hundreds of different people, places, and things over the past year and a half.

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105 comments:

  1. Look, I agree with the vitriol, in a way. But I think it is high time we try to start and coalesce. We can have disagreements and argue hard over policy and the state of the nation. But the election is over. I hope for the state of this country that we can try and at least get some business done now. I know the Mod has probably seen viewership spike with these forms of articles, but the election is over. Let's stop with all this pettiness, it accomplishes nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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    1. After an election is over people suddenly stop talking about politics? What planet are you from? Trump went on and on about Obama's birthplace after two elections were over. Where you you then, dude?

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    2. The problem for Trump is his resounding popular vote defeat to Clinton means he has no real mandate. He will be criticized. And why would anyone want to get behind a guy who is now working on stealing medicare benefits? He is going to kill a lot of old people.

      Hillary Clinton’s Popular Vote Lead Increases to Almost 1.7 Million
      http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/20/hillary_clinton_s_popular_vote_lead_increases_to_almost_1_7_million.html

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    3. Naw; viewership is down, just as it will be for the immature thespians of Hamilton. Which by the way thw ACLU says nada about the casting call of Minorities only, no Whites need apply. Oddly the role of King George was cast Caucasian.
      The Democratic Party is displaying that its younger members are coddled infants, raised by Helicopter Parents no doubt.
      I will not attend the play, as the actors, expressed by the Moderator; are free to express whatever their choosing, to a paid patron in attendance. Then let them express to an empty house. My money will be spent on entertainment elsewhere.

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    4. Wow. That whole KKK meme about giving jobs to blacks is unfair to whites is really taking hold with the Trumpies. The boys in the hood, they aren't acting too good! What are we, back in the 1870s? Or is it just 1933 again.

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    5. I think both Trump and Pence should hold their breath until they get their apology from the cast of Hamilton.

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    6. I'm sure the 64 million Americans who voted for Clinton are livid over the treatment the Human QTip got at that Hamilton show.

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    7. 5:20 - do you want to see the play because it's sold out and you can't afford it. But read the casts statement again… How is that request any less respectful than the oath of office of the president has to take?

      The guy has made his living the past few years attacking everybody now he and his supporters are already asking for a safe zone. New York City has permanently block the two streets of planking his home and they have circled a wagon train of dump trucks filled with sand around it.

      Trumps sins are your sins. Pence's sins are your sins.

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    8. Let's face it. The most popular entertainment in most Trump voting areas is watching the livestock mate.

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    9. Did Pence get his tickets yet?

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    10. How soon will Trump be impeached? "I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and still be elected." Guess he was right. I still haven't heard a rational reason for voting for him. I did hear a professor on the news say we are not ready to elect a woman Ptesident.

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    11. How can you boycott a play that is sold out for years?

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    12. 5:20 - your toxic hate issues aside, how is it you are upset that a rap musical has African American leads? Vanilla Ice was booked up already?

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    13. Trump won't get impeached because republicans still controll congress. And they are already groveling for his crumbs of power and influence.

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  2. Over the weekend, President-elect Donald Trump zeroed in on issues critical to Americans: “Saturday Night Live” isn’t fair to him, and the cast of the hit musical “Hamilton” isn’t fair to his future vice president, Mike Pence.

    Trump took aim at both shows Sunday on Twitter, calling SNL “not funny at all” after it parodied him and suggesting “Hamilton,” winner of 11 Tony Awards, “is highly overrated.” (His daughter might disagree.)

    Coverage of Trump’s complaints washed away headlines from Friday, when news came that Trump would pay $25 million to plaintiffs after Trump University fraud cases ended in a settlement. Trump said he would “easily win this case” earlier this year, insisting that he was “not a settler.”
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/21/trump-said-he-settled-lawsuit-small-fraction-not-quite/94207762/

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    1. Trump played his supporters with dreams of swamp-draining apolitical independents. Now it's the same cast of corporate characters already being put on his stage.

      You got suckered. Just like we told you you would

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    2. The Trumps are the Kardashians of politics.

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    3. I agree. If Trump hadn't been on TV, he never would have gotten the nomination. Let's hope the Republican leaders are not afraid to speak out against his nutty ideas and appointments.

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    4. The problem is that while the Trump family freak show goes on, the creeps that are actually calling the shots in this administration will be gutting medicare, torturing people, vastly increasing the national debt through crony tax cuts and getting us into wars that economically benefit their patrons. Trump is not a president, he is a clownish diversion for some of the worst people on the planet.

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  3. The Tattler should quote what E Street Band member Steve Van Zandt said about this incident. Basically people at plays who come there should not be disparaged from the stage. Just like a football came should not turn into a venue for political statements. Let's stop this nonsense and move forward.

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    1. The thing is, Pence was OK with what happened. And has said so. As he told his kids, "This is what democracy sounds like." It is only the idiot alt-fools and Donald Kardashian who have their panties in a wet knot over this.

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    2. I prefer Bruce Springsteen's take. "Donald Trump is a Flagrant, Toxic Narcissist." That is what his really driving this story.
      https://www.democracynow.org/2016/10/20/bruce_springsteen_donald_trump_is_a

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    3. Political discourse, particularly after a play about a president, is not nonsense. But grabbing women by the pu$$y is.

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    4. However his band member sees it differently; Van Zandt's E Street band mate Nils Lofgren took the opposite opinion, however. "I don't see any [bullying] here. Bravo," Lofgren tweeted of the Hamilton remarks, while adding of Van Zandt's stance, "It is ok to disagree. The audience had the freedom to boo. The statement was truth to power... Any chance you get to speak truth to power right now, you have to take it."

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    5. Van Zandt not used to getting any real stage time for himself

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    6. 7:34 agreed. Only a fascist or a cowards would think otherwise.

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  4. Not funny that Trump is now complaining about things that he's been doing forever, wonder if he still gets advice from Vladimir? A real sad fact is that the world is talking about whats been going on in America and not of the slaughter of the people in Syria. The population in 2007 was around 21 million, makes you wonder what it is now, bet you Vladimir knows. It is shameful how world leaders manipulate and slaughter people and it is excepted. Years from now it will be spoken of as a genocide.

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  5. Trump thinks the theater is a "safe place?" You mean like they have on college campuses?

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  6. 7:00, http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/21/middleeast/syria-aleppo-hospital-horror/index.html

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  7. 7:22 President Lincoln thought the theater was safe.

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    1. Yes, Abe got more than his feelings hurt.

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  8. Election Reflection: White Anger, Racial Violence, Economic Despair—and the Worst Is Yet to Come
    http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-reflection-white-anger-racial-violence-economic-despair-and-worst-yet-come

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  9. Within months of his inauguration the Trump administration will be a world-wide joke. It is a clown show already, wait until they start doing some major damage. The world and the American people will come together to encircle this pestilence like a body's immune system isolates a cancer.

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  10. I think the Trump/Putin alliance is based on the concept of race war. They want to unite the nations of the north and launch a war on the non-white nations to the south. They are trying to revive one of Hitler's teams.

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  11. 7:59am. Or if you have a New York, Manhattan address.

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  12. 8:05am. I wonder if you even have any friends that are not White and / or Non American? You sound like you have a great deal of guilt.

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    1. Yes. You have to love them to bomb them.

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  13. 7:00am. It already is spoken of as Genocides of Shia's and Christians from those areas in the Middle East. President Obama is still in office; and has done little to save the persecuted.

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    1. George W. Bush's completely insane war in Iraq destabilized the entire region. Without that the people you speak of would be alive today. Many of those people responsible are now joining the Trump administration.

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    2. Bush and the neocons screwed up so bad. Obamas only fault is that he did not prosecute them.

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  14. Not one person has said that "they won't work to defend all AMERICANS". I think the anxious feeling comes from those that ARE NOT American Citizens.
    Our inalienable rights are protected.
    If I were living in a Foreign Country, I would be living under the laws of that Country.
    What are Collages and Universities teaching?
    Are there mis prints or non referenced articles, maybe the old propaganda styles are at play? This may be the United States least informed Generation.

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    1. There is nothing new about old fart conservatives hating "the kids."

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  15. 8:32am. So the Soldiers serving in the Military can count in your care package over the Holidays? Put in extra's for the children in those "love to bomb places" as the American Soldiers hand out what they receive, to the locals.

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    1. The soldiers don't cut the orders.

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    2. Actually that was from a WW II propaganda movie. The children run in horror when they see our monster killing machine troups. "Hi little girl your parents are dead,your home destroyed,your life ruined. We did it for you because we love you. Here's a piece of candy from your good Uncle Sam"

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    3. Ah no. But yes, the USA does enter into conflicts when Americans are targeted or when the news of Genocide is presented. Usually, the population has been greatly decimated as tribal fighting has occurred since the beginning of time.

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    4. The soldiers are all volunteers and are already well compensated by their government. And how imperialist to think that the locals must rely on their occupier's handouts. That's just the mentality that causes terrorism. Other people are suffering for your sins.

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    5. How can they be volunteers and well compensated?

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  16. 7:04am. I've always liked Slim Shady; Original Rapper. But, were not talking OG or skin; it's the ACLU that defends discrimination. Why havn't we heard from them on the Cattle Call for Hamilton?

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    1. You are talking about an incredibly successful franchise here. I'm not sure the investors are going to take your complaints seriously.

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    2. We have check a news source other than Faux.

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    3. Because it's a non issue among those in the theatre business.

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    4. Any publicity is good publicity. For millions of people around the world the cast members of Hamilton are now heroes.

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  17. Dear Mr. Mod
    Could you please give a refresher course on how to start a comment thread,and how to use the Reply button etc? It's very confusing here lately.

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  18. Am I Still Banned Because I Support Trump?November 21, 2016 at 9:39 AM

    Imagine this.

    After a city counsel election John Crawford wins! Hooray! The City is safe from waste and overdevelopment. My $200 contribution to his campaign is not wasted.

    John, along with his lovely wife and awesome boys, go to the Sierra Madre Play House to see A Christmas Carol for the umpteenth time. To get into the Christmas spirit. Peace to all men of good will!

    At the conclusion of the play Bob Cratchit - brilliantly played by election loser Gene Goss - steps out his role to harangue John and his family as haters of the saintly police department, the library, and reasonable development, thereby ruining the evening for John, the missus, and the kids. Harshing the Christmas buzz at it were.

    We would all rightly agree that Gene was being a jerk, as there is a time and a place for everything. But when Donald Trump and Mike Pence (our great leaders elect) are involved all courtesy and disdain for rude behavior goes out the window.

    Now, everyone feel free to go back to calling Trump, Pence, Bannon, etc. racists, sexists, homophones, etc.

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    1. You are making up a fun story but let's remember what was said by the cast of Hamilton
      "We sir, we are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights, sir. We truly hope this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and work on behalf of all of us".
      Hardly "rude" or disdainful" more like a plea for mercy.........

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    2. Actually I would have filmed Goss's performance and posted it here. It would have been a lot of fun. But Chris, you deleted a lot of my comments last month on those various sockpuppet Facebook pages you run. Why shouldn't I do the same thing to you?

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    3. Build the Wall. Mexico Pays.November 21, 2016 at 9:53 AM

      It's DLM the Mexican Trump supporter.

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    4. Build the Wall. Mexico Pays.November 21, 2016 at 9:56 AM

      And the reason it would of been fun to post the video is that the hypothetical Gene - a true gentleman in real life - would have been acting like a jerk. And it's fun to make fun of jerks.

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  19. Focus on the excitement, Hillary will be charged for treason and irs tax evasion and bill Clinton will become s registered sex offender. That's the law

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    1. Political trials. Just like in the good old days in Russia and Germany.

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    2. P***y grabbing will be legal,just as tax evasion by the rich.

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  20. Do we get to vote? I feel banishment is in order.

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  21. 9:49am. I feel left out. I will look for those sockpuppet posting from Chris. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

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  22. So 9:30am. A "successful franchise; Hamilton" according to you. Should not have to answer for not even understanding the plays namesake; whom was this Countrys first treasurer and a Federalist. If investors may get upset; then extend the same courtesy to President Elect Trump.
    Or just admit that you are a hypocrite.

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    1. President-elect Trump is probably one of the most insulting persons to ever run for national office. Your complaint is laughable.

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    2. UM It's a play,they are actors from a repressed minority. Your "fragility" and lack of understand your "entitlement" is insulting to humanity.

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    3. There seems to be a theme here amongst the Trumpets that saying something bad about Donald Trump is a horrifying thing to do. When did the White House become a safe room?

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  23. 9:39 makes a good point. I'm finding politics are so inaccurate anymore it's hard to tell right from wrong and truth from lies. Should also include acceptable or unacceptable behavior too?

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  24. WOW, Trump said if elected president he would end the drought in a week. Did he really just deliver on that promise? Is there really a machine that can control the weather? Funny stuff to not loose sleep over but it sure makes one think.

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    1. Is the drought ver? Hey that's great news!
      So our wells are full?

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    2. You know all that "trickle down" stuff the Trumpies are talking about? Trust me, it ain't rainwater.

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    3. That's called trickle on economics. The republican base falls for it every time

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  25. Would you think it is appropriate to boo and lecture President Obama or Vice President Biden when they appear in public? Or would it just be free speech. Disrespect is bad no matter who is the target. I was not thrilled with Obama's election, but have respected him as my President. I was disappointed that his election only caused a bigger divide by his distain for those who disagreed with him. But I would never boo him. Hope you all can find a little respect for the President-elect.

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    1. Trump deserves no respect. He is a foul mouthed mean spirited lout who couldn't even get more votes than Hillary Clinton. I hope he gets impeached.

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    2. The difference is Obama is a gentleman and Trump is a foul-mouthed, fraudulent (settled a $25m claim just yesterday), racist, sexual assaulting, racist, torture-mongering proven liar.

      I'd treat the Pope with respect but not Hitler. If you still support Trump' after all that's come to light then his sins are your sins.

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    3. That's better! Checked all the boxes (except maybe anti-Semite). Bonus points for the Hitler reference!

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    4. The Pope said today that those who have had abortions can now be forgiven. Will Mike Pence be having His Holiness waterboarded?

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  26. 11:58 am. And yet I can't stop smiling. Finally the U.S. will have an adult in charge. The actors in the play Hamilton; are entitlement babies.
    If Obama had received boo's from an audience ;the press would spin that as racial.
    The twitterheads will be blogging from both sides of the cyberspace isles.
    Whining is the new past time for the alt left.
    Attention: this is a comment thread!!!
    and thank you President Trump for the rain !

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  27. ATTN: New Com.streaming....Lol. The Democrats changed the rules on Filibuster; not gonna happen, tables turned. President Trump may now nominate candidates to the Supreme Court without the lengthy challenge.

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    1. Of course. Did Rush change your diaper as well?

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    2. You are either uninformed or lying again. The rule change does not apply to Supreme Court nominees, who are still subject to a 60-vote filibuster threshold, or to legislation.

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  28. The market is at an all time high. $$$.

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    1. And it happened on obama's watch. Took a long time to get back on track from the disastrous Bush recession

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  29. President Obama; vows that he may lack class. After leaving office, Mr. Obama says he may continue texting his distain on new Presidential policies.
    Shows what may be left of the Democratic Party.

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    1. You mean he might say something critical of his Lordship Donald the Trump? Oh noes! The world will end!

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  30. I mean Low Class.
    Past Presidents remain relatively quiet, out of respect of office.
    Lack of decorum will be Obamas legacy among others.

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    1. I would much prefer he speak out. But here is a question. Was Geo W Bush's refusal to vote for Donald also a decorum issue for you?

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    2. Sudden silence.

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  31. Yes; but I did not have vote for him and. Obama is so similar.
    Mitt Romney, G. Bush jr. and Obama, Hillary and Hubby, Al Gore. All Elites.

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    1. 3:43 what exactly is your definition of elite? Please do answer.

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    2. I think by elites the commenting party means all of those former high GOP government officials who haven't joined Phony Don's administration. At least not yet.

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    3. Not being 3:43 pm I can't answer definitively but I believe the answer to 4:44 pm's question is that the elites can read and write, perhaps do sums, and have attended college. Maybe stretch that to can be employeed, self or otherwise.

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  32. Mischaracterizing the cast of Hamilton's statement of heartfelt anguish and distain for exclusionary political and social positions is #45's move on America's freedoms. This only shows that #45 nor most of his followers have not been to a stage play lately or ever. Pleas for support of AIDS programs and other such theater world areas interest and support often comes to the edge of the stage after curtain call.

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  33. You go girl I almost comprehend your entire comment and agree. Minstrels as a sub class of humanity are often abused. I also applaud them for their fortitude,honesty,and love of their brothers.

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    1. Love of their brothers? You must be from a red state.

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    2. Cute say something else stupid to amuse us?

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    3. Your sister is driving over with the meth. Be sure to brush your tooth.

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  34. 5:30pm. Love of brothers or all in the family.
    Could be brotherly love or "gay code" ?

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    1. Better waterboard him and find out.

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  35. First one to 100 wins. good nite.

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  36. You've got to love when wing nuts use the their 1st Amendment rights to criticize the use of 1st Amendment rights by those who disagree with them.

    They simply cannot contain their abject hypocrisy.

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