Saturday, January 21, 2017

Is Pasadena Ahead Of The Curve & About To Do What Other Cities Will Soon Need To Do, Or Just Looking to Raise Taxes?

Mod: The following interesting article ran recently in the Pasadena Star News. By all appearances it would seem that the current Mayor of Pasadena, Terry Tornek, is now contemplating that most unappreciated of solutions to the cost of government there, letting employees go. Even members of the Police Department

Pasadena may need to eliminate jobs, cut services, mayor says during State of the City address (Pasadena Star News link): At his second annual State of the City address, Mayor Terry Tornek warned that the city may have make cuts to its staff of 2,200 employees and reduce programs if the city does not increase revenues within the next year.

Expenses are expected to surpass revenues by $3.6 million when the city’s 2018 fiscal year starts this summer.

“Since more than 70 percent of our budget is spent on personnel and since we must pay our employees a competitive wage, the inevitable conclusion is that we cannot support the existing payroll of 2,200 employees indefinitely,” Tornek said to a crowded gymnasium Wednesday. “If we are to maintain high quality services, personnel reductions will mean eliminating some programs altogether.”

The city has already implemented the “obvious savings,” so future discussions about cuts are not likely to be popular, he said.

“My primary message to you tonight is that this is not an acceptable outcome,” he said.

Attorney Dale Gronemeier asked Tornek whether the city is looking for cuts in the Pasadena Police Department, which he has argued is overstaffed compared to other agencies around the country. Other councilmen have called for increases to police staffing in light of recent shootings in Pasadena.

“The answer is absolutely yes,” Tornek said, adding there are studies ongoing to determine appropriate staffing levels. “All of us together have to sort of figure out how we prioritize and how we work our way through (the deficit).”

City Manager Steve Mermell said an annual report given to the audience said that 2017 will have challenges, particularly because of rising employee pension costs.

Mod: You can read the rest of this article by clicking on the link provided above. As you probably already know, a lot of this is being caused by the huge amount of CalPERS debt Pasadena, like most cities in this state, are being forced to carry. According to Stanford's California Pension Tracker (link), here is what Pasadena's colossal pension debt load is looking like these days.


Mod: Yes, your eyes do not deceive you. That is $1.545 billion dollars in Pasadena "Market Pension Debt." In a city of approximately 137,000 souls, that comes out to around $11,000 per resident, including the itty bitty babies. Would it even be possible raise taxes enough to cover all of that? Would you want to? By way of comparison, Sierra Madre's pension debt is at the $40,000,000 mark, or about $3,600 per resident. Good luck with that as well.

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63 comments:

  1. Bill Bogaard must have given away the store.

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    1. It's a bigger problem than anything caused by the actions of one person.

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    2. It happened on Bo's watch.

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  2. CalPERS has made it necessary for all citizens to police themselves. As a cost cut savings move, on behalf of all citizens, I propose that "we" all do away with Police Departments and become vigilantes.

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    1. Hopefully they will establish a new pension system called VigPERS.

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    2. you're the trump guy!

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    3. vigilante = paranoid idiot

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  3. Trump draws far smaller inaugural crowd than Obama
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-draws-far-smaller-inaugural-crowd-obama-202245491--politics.html

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    1. So what. Many obama supporters didn't vote because neither candidate was of their ethnicity.

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  4. Well, when Pasadena City Manager Michael Beck total compensation for 2015 was $394,270.72, no wonder the city is broke. Not to mention many other employees with similar huge salaries. I'm all for proper compensation, but come on !!

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  5. My son takes the Gold Line to work. He called to tell me the trains are packed with people going downtown to protest.

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    1. And what exactly do they think will be accomplished? Pity the fools and hope it pours.

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  6. This has to be a tax raising ploy. The choice Tornek is offering the Rosies is:
    A) Agree to pay more
    B) Or we will fire a bunch of people, including cops.
    Remember, Tornek's longtime campaign manager is the same guy who ran the Yes On UUT campaign here in Sierra Madre.

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    1. fire them

      dump Calpers

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  7. Hope the Goldline riders brought their tin foil and pink pussy cat hats, no other rain gear necessary today!

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    1. There will be more people protesting Trump today than showed up to celebrate his inauguration in WDC yesterday. Blocks and blocks of empty stands. Think of all the money that could have been saved had those stands been left in the warehouse.

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    2. Hmm. What is worse:
      A) A "pink pussy cat" hat?
      B) Or a 71 year old bald man with a combover dyed beach boy blond?

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    3. This:
      http://imgur.com/Fkbfa5O

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  8. If I did my math correctly, Sierra Madre's population is about 8% of Pasadena's so our comparable debt (8 x 40,000,000) is 320,000 which equates to about 29,000 per household

    we're managed worse than Pasadena, how's that a surprise?

    seriously, we owe $ 40 million dollars in future debt (and growing) to fund the free lifestyle of retired folks?

    they (public sector) didn't earn and save their retirement, it's a free salary at taxpayer expense


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    1. We have been blessed with City Councils that live for today.

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  9. Sister/Women's march song: Beyonce, All the single Ladies Oh Oh...

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  10. Sorry cannot dump Calpers.

    But make America great again
    let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer

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  11. Apparently FOX News doesn't know about the protests. Not showing any of the protests. Just glamorizing their leader of assault, racism, bigotry....

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    1. Fox News is the modern equivalent of the Völkischer Beobachter.

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    2. is an extremist organization under the guise of mainstream media

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    3. amazing but not surprising - i just checked Fox's we page and this story is buried at the bottom underneath several frivolous headlines.

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  12. Mayor Garcetti holds emergency meeting. The Trump protests are viewed as new revenue to bolster ridership on the Metro Lines. L.A. Council today will study future plans for continued protests. Recommendations to bring in more porta potties a must!

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    1. A lot of people in downtown LA live in those things.

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  13. Thank Garcetti and the LA Council for the living condictions in the porta potties. Maybe the million woman march prosters will purchase meals for the homeless they pass on the street.

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    1. they probably will

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    2. One thing you know for sure, greedy GOPs won't.

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  14. Maybe the prosters will feed the homeless, but the protesters are consumed with themselves. No votes for Trump, but votes for Garcetti and for Governor Jerry Brown to remain in office. Keep California along with Hollywood self absorbed "stars" and turn a blind eye protesters along with the small amount of Trump supporters, paying high taxes. Keep the non- negotiable CalPERS in place, so as the Union Attorneys keep their jobs. Make California a state for the uber wealthy and beyond dirt poor.

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    1. Has Trump fed the homeless? Maybe gave them shelter at his hotels?

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    2. Nice try, out-of-work-and-undereducated trump guy.

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  15. Whoa, Trump hasn't sat inside the Oval Office yet. To bad your so pissed at "your"guys in office. You all live in the State of Denial.

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    1. The lazy ass took the weekend off.

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    2. The more time he spends away from the office, the better.

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    3. He needs to spend the weekend standing in front of the mirror pushing his hair around.

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  16. Frivolous News Networks : CNN, MSNBC, you may catch the featured news item of the day on these stations...marching, marching, marching...where do we go now? Oh, where do we go now? "You"and know the tune, sing along.

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    1. Too bad Trump couldn't turn out crowds like that yesterday, right?

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    2. 3:19, yeah, what's the big deal about a political event in which people all over the world participate, to demonstrate that they disagree with Trump and everything he stands for.
      Happens every day.

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    3. are you a n a z i, trump guy?

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  17. Women's March Is The Biggest Protest In US History As An Estimated 2.9 Million March
    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/21/womens-march-biggest-protest-history-estimated-2-4-million-march.html

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  18. "People all over the World" are watching FOX News, Watter's World. Best News out there.

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    1. Utter propaganda. Wouldn't know unbiased news if they sat on it.

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  19. 3:44pm. Check the stats. Conservative population have always given more money and volunteering of time, then any other group.

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    1. And the sources that prove that claim would be....?

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    2. No fake news allowed. Prove it or save the bs argument for grade school.

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    3. It's easy. They have more spare time. Everyone else has to work.

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  20. 'It's made in Vietnam!' At inauguration, origin of red Trump hats shocks many
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-hats-idUSKBN1542YL

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  21. I hope those -2-4million marching woman remembered to vote! Maybe next time around "they" will march up to doors and knock on them for their canadate in order to get out the vote!!!

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    1. Good enough to say twice.

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  22. I hope those -2-4million marching woman remembered to vote! Maybe next time around "they" will march up to doors and knock on them for their canadate in order to get out the vote!!!

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    1. they did get out the vote. Hillary won the popular by a landslide.

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  23. I pity readers who do not understand the meaning of today's protests.

    This was bigger than any protest and march, and it happened around the world.

    Not just Americans, but the world knows his bullying, inappropriate sexual bragging and
    his racism and prejudice of the non-white.

    This is a profound message. Don't think the Rethug
    party isn't watching.

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  24. The orange man may have won the electoral college.

    But he did not win the hearts of the majority of the world.

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    1. Yes he did. His press secretary just said so.

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    2. Spicer is a frantic fool.

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  25. I loved Madona having to read script..."I am so outraged"...LOL.

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    1. Yes, it's unfortunate she showed up. Every group has got its idjits. At least she hasn't been elected president. Yet.

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    2. trump uses a teleprompter. what your point?

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