Thursday, March 23, 2017

Obamacare Repeal Vote: Does Today Have a Big Fail In Store for The Cheeto Benito?

Mod: The big vote could be coming up today in Congress, and it does not look especially good for the tied, dyed and microwave fried POTUS. Here is how CNN shared it with the world last night at 1:08AM, Washington DC time.

After dramatic day, GOP fails to reach health care deal (CNN link): A frenzied 24 hours filled with hushed deliberations on Capitol Hill, senior-level meetings at the White House and back-to-back phone calls with the President came to an end Wednesday -- quietly and unceremoniously. Well before midnight, this much was clear: Republicans still had no deal on their health care bill to repeal Obamacare, as a Thursday vote loomed around the corner.

House Speaker Paul Ryan and his top deputies huddled with a group of moderate Republicans in the Speaker's office Wednesday night, as members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus sounded increasingly optimistic that they were close to getting a major concession from the White House.

Hours later, Ryan and his top deputies never came out to speak to the cameras and dozens of reporters waiting outside, and it was clear that leadership had no good news to share. With the exception of a few members who rushed away without speaking to press, all leaders in the room, including Ryan, appeared to have ducked out using side exits.

While this gathering was wrapping up, House leaders had gotten more bad news: GOP Rep. Charlie Dent, the leader of the moderate Tuesday Group, released a statement opposing the current bill spearheaded by Ryan and President Trump.

The late-night session in Ryan's office came soon after what appeared to be a major breakthrough in the impasse. The Freedom Caucus, which had stubbornly opposed the GOP bill for days, was suddenly optimistic that a deal was possible. The White House was offering a provision that would strip the so-called "essential health benefits" from the House bill, and GOP leadership indicated they were open to this change.

Late Wednesday, Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows said: "We are very hopeful we can get this done."

Now, Trump and his GOP colleagues on Capitol Hill head into Thursday still unclear of the fate of their mission to repeal Obamacare.

"It has always been the case - pull the bill one way, risk losing members on the other end," a lawmaker involved told CNN.

The vote count has been tight. According to CNN's ongoing whip count, as of Wednesday night, 24 House Republicans have flat-out said they will vote against the bill, while four more have indicated they are likely to oppose it.

Mod: I guess we could know the results some time today. Even the if the Orwellian monikered  "Freedom Caucus" does convince Ryan to kill off enough poor people to make them happy and it does pass, there is still the Senate. An even tougher sell.

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63 comments:

  1. Lock him up

    The White House on Wednesday rushed to distance itself from President Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, saying Trump did not know of his secret work for a Russian oligarch.

    "The president was not aware of Paul's clients from the last decade," White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters.

    Spicer was responding to a bombshell Associated Press report revealing that Manafort signed a multimillion-dollar contract beginning in 2006 with Oleg Deripaska, a close associate of Vladimir Putin, to help advance the Russian leader's interests around the world.

    The story fueled the growing controversy over the Trump team's ties to Russia, which was rekindled Monday when FBI Director James Comey publicly confirmed the bureau is investigating whether Trump associates coordinated with Moscow during the 2016 presidential election.

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  2. Trolls get trumped again!

    WASHINGTON — Exxon Mobil Corp. acknowledges it lost months worth of communications from an alias email account that former CEO Rex Tillerson used to discuss climate change.

    An attorney for the oil giant explained Tuesday in a letter to a New York state court, filed as part of a climate fraud investigation, that emails from Tillerson’s secondary account, which used the pseudonym “Wayne Tracker,” went missing as a result of a “unique issue.” The lawyer said the account was exempted from a “file sweep” that prevents emails from being automatically deleted ― an issue “limited to the Wayne Tracker account.”

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  3. Third option, if the vote does not appear to have enough support, pull it.
    Obamacare will implode under it's own weight.
    The Dems will "own" it, more middle class families will suffer under enormous premiums and a larger number of poor will die while holding onto that "golden ticket" of pick a number, get in line and pray.

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    1. Kinda dumb, chum. By allowing it to die the GOP would still get the blame for the wave of misery destroying the health care of millions would bring.

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  4. Trumpcare: Another nail in the coffin of the white working classMarch 23, 2017 at 5:54 AM

    Less-educated middle-age US whites dying younger than others: Middle-age white Americans with limited education are increasingly dying younger, on average, than other middle-age U.S. adults, a trend driven by their dwindling economic opportunities, research by two Princeton University economists has found.

    The economists, Anne Case and Angus Deaton, argue in a paper released Thursday that the loss of steady middle-income jobs for those with high school degrees or less has triggered broad problems for this group. They are more likely than their college-educated counterparts, for example, to be unemployed, unmarried or afflicted with poor health.

    "This is a story of the collapse of the white working class," Deaton said in an interview. "The labor market has very much turned against them."

    Those dynamics helped fuel the rise of President Donald Trump, who won widespread support among whites with only a high school degree. Yet Deaton said his policies are unlikely to reverse these trends, particularly the health care legislation now before the House that Trump is championing. That bill would lead to higher premiums for older Americans, the Congressional Budget Office has found.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/38b0149fd091484e84b5fd5258f1a738/less-educated-middle-age-us-whites-dying-younger-others

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  5. Most of drump voters did not know Obamacare was the same as the ACA.

    Which means we need to improve our educational system and NOT allow anyone to cut it in any way. We already have a shortage of teachers. Vouchers do no work. Healthcare, education and breathing fresh air cannot be cut back.

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    1. It's really a mainstream marketing problem not an education issue. Trump really good at marketing. Right-wing extremist media really good at marketing. Doesn't matter if they lie or not they effective because they get influence citizens to vote against their best interests.

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  6. Trump's approval rating craters in poll — and his base is the culprit
    President Donald Trump's approval rating has fallen to 37% — a new low, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released on Wednesday. The poll found that the president is losing crucial support among Republicans, men, and white voters. The survey of 1,056 voters from across the country found that Trump's approval among Republican voters dropped to 81%, from 91% of those surveyed in a similar Quinnipiac poll two weeks ago. His disapproval rating jumped from 5% to 14%. The poll showed those in Trump's most supportive demographics — male and white voters — are increasingly unhappy with his performance. Forty-three percent of men approved of Trump — down from 49% in the last poll, while 44% of white voters approved, also down from 49%. "Most alarming for President Donald Trump, the demographic underpinnings of his support, Republicans, white voters, especially men and those without a college degree, are starting to have doubts," assistant director of the poll, Tim Malloy, said in a statement.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-approval-rating-craters-in-poll-and-his-base-is-the-culprit-2017-3

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  7. Dig deeper. Trump team communications may have been "incidentally" caught by surveillance.
    The Congress cannot handle this alone.

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    1. The Russian mafia were running a gambling operation out of Trump Tower.

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    2. And whom,pray tell,can "handle" this? Agents of foreign governments (trump) are routinely monitored thank God.Apparently it's you,Putin,and Trump vs the USA. "Trump Team"= traitors

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    3. Trump is as corrupt as they get.

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  8. Dump Obama Care ACA or whatever you call it. I am sick of paying for other people's insurance and meals, etc....especially illegals. Deport all illegals. Anchor brats can stay or their parents can take them back when they leave. Our classes will be smaller, emergency rooms less crowded, and fewer in our prisons.

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    1. I'm sick of paying for your roads and your childrens' education. I'm sick of paying for your police protection and military defense, for your farm subsidies, and for special handicapped access to public buildings.

      We're all in this together, kid. Sharing is caring.

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    2. So are you going to pick strawberries, or are your kids going to do it? And how about if your parents do the busboy work in restaurants?

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    3. OK.But you are kinda stupid.Not worthy of my attention.......

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    4. Never shared your toys as a kid I'll bet.

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    5. Really folks, picking strawberries, busing tables? Focus on the the word "Illegal." People can come here legally amd that's no problem. 10:50, your moronic response is nothing short of pathetic. We're in this together if we all pay taxes and all follow the law.

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    6. It's all about the hypocrisy, 12:28. People who claim to hate illegals are often the first to hire them.

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    7. Funny how there's a strong correlation between tough talk like 10:05 and cowardly behavior toward the poor, sick, and downtrodden. So many tough talkers subscribe to fear based politics and can't even walk down a suburban street in broad daylight without being armed.

      I'm sick of our leaders being so beholden to cowards and legislating to placate the most fearful among us.

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    8. Where do you read fear in anything 10:05 wrote? It is amazing to me how you correlate your wild claims of cowardice and poor treatment of the "downtrodden." This is about people who ignor our laws and come here without being vetted and don't contribute to the runnimg of this country. If you're so protective of these "downtrodden" folks, why don't you let few of live in your home. You can feed and care for them on your own dime.

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    9. 80% of the lost manufacturing jobs in America were due to automation. The race argument is dishonest.

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    10. Sorry 2:00. There's plenty of fear in racism.

      And who are the most racist? Who are the most fearful? Right wing nuts.

      Most whiny, too, about everything.

      I expect one day they'll claim ADA accommodations for their fears and prejudices due to their heightened amygdala response.

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    11. Tough talk and weak straw man argument 2:00. I could just as easily say why don't you round them up and show them the exit if you detest their presence so much.

      Sorry you feel scared when you see "them" waiting for work by Memorial Park, but don't worry they won't hurt you (except maybe at night in your dreams.)

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    12. Once again, weak, off topic response. 2:00 never said he/she was afraid of illegal imigrants. What part of "illegal" don't you folks understand? It means they broke the law to come here. Whatever racism you are interpreting from the word "illegal" is in your own little minds.

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  9. Plan A /216 votes. "HealthCare Bill will pass.

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    1. Plan B: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levonorgestrel

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    2. If trump can just deny healthcare to a few million more citizens it will pass with "flying colors"

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    3. The Freedom Caucus wants a gauranteed body count.

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    4. Nuh uh,11:13. Trump and Ryan just folded their tent and slunk off into the shadows.

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  10. Surveillance during the election...
    Masked, unmasked, naive , stupid? Any wagers on "who's" voice or voices, were also picked up during the chatter and collection?
    Will "we"really ever know?

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  11. Trolls doing everything possible to cover upturn trail back to the swamp:

    Exiled Former Russian Lawmaker Shot Dead In Kiev
    Former MP Denis Voronenkov was helping the Ukrainian authorities build a treason case against Yanukovich, Ukraine’s pro-Russia former president.

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    1. Funny "you" would ask, "are you going to pick strawberries "? I have. As did my dad.
      What is your point? Are you saying "you" feel superior in "your" place in life. Are you saying that an honest days work is beneath "you"?
      Entitled Liberal talking point, exposing the Silver Spoon you grasp in one hand, while shaking you fist with the other, saying life is not fair.

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    2. 12:51, you are supposing a lot of information you don't have....

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    3. 12:51 is just an insulting troll. Can't help himself.

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    4. Just like the person who made the original strawberry picking commemt Pretty insulting. People who come to this country,legally,are looking for a better life. You are clearly far above them in the social order and can look down on them enough to use a sterotype about hard working people as a challlenge to others. Elitist thinking!

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    5. People who come to this country 'illegally' are also looking for a better life. You are the elitist

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    6. Illegal is illegal, that's not elitist, we are a nation of laws.

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    7. 5:34. People that are here illegally broke the law. Therefore, they are criminals. If they want a better life, follow the law. How can demanding people follow the laws of the country be elitist?

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  12. Plan A put on hold.
    House Leaders have canceled Health Care Vote.

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    1. As Gomer Pyle was known to say, "Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!"

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    2. Do-nothing cowards. Years of opposition to Obama. Years attempting to repeal the affordable care act. Still no viable replacement. Elite Conservative extremists from the margins trying to destroy America for their own gains

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    3. Chalk up yet another Trump failure. Now please, let's get an independent prosecuter in place so we can get this fool impeached.

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  13. Freedom Caucus meeting with Trump fell apart this morning. They do not respect him.

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    1. So much for being the king of the art of the deal

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    2. Does anything President Trump touches live?

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  14. We are all in this together, yes.
    Illegal is still illegal, and laws need to be upheld or the break down of society will continue.
    Nothing moronic about how unfair life can be and if laws are not followed or how murky laws cause dissent.

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  15. Burning the midnight oil tonight in D.C.
    Bring your bowling shoes and an appetite for pizza; plan A will be discussed, paragraph by paragraph, until all are on board to reach 216 vote. Politics.

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    1. Sure. Like there wasn't enough time already.

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  16. Sure. Like, you mean "we"really have to read all this stuff; before "we" can vote to pass it into law?

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  17. Pretty funny 1:13. You know nothing about how legislation gets passed if you believe they'll actually read the bill paragraph by paragraph.

    They will spend much more time on trying to get the Koch Bros on board and accessing which 2018 races the Koch Bros might buy. If the GOP can't get the Koch Bros on board, then the determination is who among them might be expendable. Leadership will save their own hides and a few favored others. That's how legislation works.

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    1. The GOP is a destructive force. They can only run against the things others have built. When they are forced to actually create something we get the kind of insanity we saw in Congress today.

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    2. Well, when the people you replace leave nothing but disasters for you, you have to spend your time mopping up after them.

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  18. 2:32pm. George Soros, your not that smart.

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    1. That's troll #1 - fanatic and poor speller

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    2. At least he can spell...

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  19. Los Angeles Metropolitan Water District will spend one million dollars this year, releasing public information that "we" still need to conserve water.

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    1. And "we" do.A million $$ is a drop in the bucket.

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  20. Obama didn't care, Obama just taxed the _h_t out of the middle class, just like the city of Sierra Madre continues to do. Our city always needs more money from it's taxpayers. The county, the city, the state, the feds house of cards is failing,

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    1. Obama didn't tax anyone- congress passes budgetary laws. Congress was controlled by republicans the duration of obamas tenure

      No more FAKE news from your trolls

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  21. We do. Why wouldn't we?? Global Warming is real, regardless of what 45 would tell you.

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  22. Why doesn't the Trump just subcontract out health care and then stiff the subcontractors when the bill comes in? That business method has worked for him before.

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