Thursday, March 30, 2017

Pasadena Star News: Despite federal threats, Pasadena stops police, city employees from helping with deportations

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Mod: It looks like Sierra Madre's far larger west side neighbor is now standing up to Jeff Sessions and his demand that all cities allow ICE to seize their residents at will and throw them out of the country. Here is how the Pasadena Star News describes it.

Despite federal threats, Pasadena stops police, city employees from helping with deportations (Pasadena Star News link:) Undeterred by U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ warning Monday, Pasadena’s City Council passed a policy preventing police and city employees from assisting with deportations. The city could lose more than $300,000 in Justice Department grants if Sessions follows through with a pledge to withhold funds from cities refusing to cooperate.

Pasadena will not be blackmailed,” said Mayor Terry Tornek.

Tornek said the city would follow any federal laws and court orders, but it would not give into politics of fear.

The protections included punishment for those who don’t comply. City employees who use official resources to unnecessarily collect and share information about a person’s immigration status could face disciplinary actions under the new policy, according to City Manager Steve Mermell.

“We don’t need to know about a person’s status to sign them up for adult soccer, or to sign them up for water or electric services,” Mermell said.

By never collecting the information, the city would not violate a federal law requiring police to notify federal officials about the immigration status of individuals in local custody.

The City Council did not declare Pasadena a “sanctuary city” and the designation received little attention during the council’s deliberations. In a staff report, Mermell wrote there is no legal definition or uniformity for “sanctuary cities.”

Pablo Alvarado, director of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, said he would have liked the city to make that declaration as a sign of a resistance to President Donald Trump’s administration. However, the policies adopted, in some cases, are stronger than in other municipalities labeled “sanctuary cities.”

“I would have liked that to happen, but at the end of the day, it’s just language, it’s irrelevant when it comes down to the actual protections,” Alvarado said. “What matters is how municipalities will protect immigrants, I think the council made the right decision last night. A policy is better than language.”

Mod: Becoming a "sanctuary city" without ever using the language associated with becoming such a thing might be a unique legal strategy, but will it be enough to hold off Beauregard Sessions? Last Monday the erstwhile Attorney General took some time off from defending himself against charges that he eagerly helped enable the Russians to undermine American democracy during last fall's election to do the following.

White House to States: Shield the Undocumented and Lose Police Funding (The New York Times link): The Trump administration, signaling its intent to toughen enforcement of immigration laws across the country, threatened on Monday to withhold or revoke law enforcement funding from states, cities and localities that block the police or sheriffs from telling federal authorities about undocumented immigrants in their custody.

In an announcement at the White House, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said state and local governments seeking certain law enforcement grants would have to certify that they were complying with a law that bars any official from withholding information from the Department of Homeland Security about a person’s immigration status. Those that are violating the policy could see such grants clawed back, he said.

Mr. Sessions’s appearance was an effort to threaten painful consequences for so-called sanctuary cities, those that decline to cooperate with the federal government in efforts to track and deport undocumented immigrants.

“I strongly urge our nation’s states and cities and counties to consider carefully the harm they are doing to their citizens by refusing to enforce our immigration laws and to rethink these policies,” Mr. Sessions said. “Such policies make their cities and states less safe — public safety as well as national security are at stake — and put them at risk of losing federal dollars.”

Mod: No news yet if Sierra Madre will be making any kind of effort to join with Pasadena

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74 comments:

  1. All I have to say about Sanctuary Cities is this: Gov. Brown wants a tax on gas and registration so he can fix our poor roads and infrastructure. If California didn't have CalPers, lots and lots of welfare for illegals as well as schooling, would this tax be necessary?

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    1. No and we would be in a s*it hole like Tennessee. No human is illegal,by the way. Stupid question.

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    2. Everything Trump touches fails. This will, too.

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    3. 7:25 If they are here and have not followed our Visa/ Greencard laws they have broken our laws and are criminals. In other countries if you do not follow the law you are also a criminal.

      6:58 Totally agree with you. The illegal immigrants do crowd our schools and all of our services. Just go into any hospital emergency waiting room.

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    4. 7:25A How humanistic of you! No human is illegal, Huh? One world order. 1984. I can hardly wait!

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  2. The hypocrisy is big parts of the US economy is dependent upon illegal aliens. Agriculture, restaurants, nannies, the list goes on. At the same time those who benefit from their labor feel threatened and don't want them here. If all of the illegals in LA County were deported the economy here would collapse.

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    1. many of the farm workers come here on work Visa's. Restaurants underpay because they can get away with it. Nannies? Please - raise your own child instead of pawning if off or don't have a child. Illegals are illegal - get legal or leave.

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    2. Ha! Our economy would collapse? More crazy left talk. Any excuse to justify poor policies by your party. 12:04 is spot on. Any other law breaking activities you want to support? How bout the poor pawn shop owner who'll go out of business if people stop bringing stolen goods in. I guess we need burglers. The poor defense lawyers that will go broke if people stopped driving drunk. Give those drunks the keys!

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  3. Border wall ask: $1 billion for 62 miles
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/27/politics/trump-border-wall-cost-distance/index.html

    You're paying for it.

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    1. Rather pay for that instead of paying for their education, welfare, and schools.

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    2. Of course you would. Spending taxpayer money on things of absolutely no use is very Republican.

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  4. The fastest growing undocumented group is from various Asian countries who are visa overstays. There is also a large representation of visa overstays from Northern Europe. The angst over all of these "illegals" is nothing more than bigotry towards people from Mexico and points southward. The inhumanity in all this is the blind eye for years and then Trump's wam...hurting families when the breadwinner is swept up leaving citizen children vulnerable. Yes, then welfare programs will be impacted. The mix of citizen and undocumented families holding their own and supporting their members is being fractured. This is inhumane.

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    1. The illegal Asians also need be deported. Families fractured?? They did it to themselves. The whole family including anchor babies can go back to their country and go through our process.

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    2. "Anchor babies" are not just fellow humans, they are citizens. Their country is the United States of America.

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    3. But their parents aren't legal residents. Pack up the family and leave. No one said you need to leave the kids.

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    4. Watch out Tea Party. Trump is gonna do a Putin on your big butt.

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  5. I would expect that the Sierra Madre PD will go about normal policing which does not include any questions about documentation.

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    1. Best to just ignore all of the Washington lunatics.

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    2. Illegals in SM - warning - don't fall asleep in your car. In SM that's ground to shoot you in the back.

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    3. Butt not back.

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  6. Here is what I suggest: if you do business with a gardener, see that he has a business license for the city, not cheap, but if you and others in town that employ him/her or house keepers, etc., get together as a client base and add a few dollars towards getting a business license for these fine people. Give the PD no excuse to stop them. Also, help see that their car registration is current.

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    1. That license is almost $200.

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    2. My gardener has become a citizen. We pay him well for 1 day a week. We also pay for the city license fee. I don't mind helping him. I do mind helping those guys who hang out in the park. The people that employ them pay them cheap, don't pay any benefits or taxes and neither to guys who get hired! I do my own house cleaning for several reasons: Can't find anyone who is legal, have employed them in the past and they stole from me. Show compassion for your fellow citizens who need help. Charity begins at home.

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    3. Gosh a couple things there.The "guys that hang out in the park" are not entitled to benefits and to have taxes paid by their employers,as contracted day labor they are liable to pay their own taxes and benefits,just as your "well paid" gardner. If you can't find someone who is "legal" to clean your home it is not due to lack of labor you're just cheap. Why do you show compassion for only "fellow citizens." Charity begins at home?? since when? Who told you that? some imaginary bible passage I assume. You're not talking to the dog again are you?

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  7. They're eating their own nowMarch 30, 2017 at 7:50 AM

    Trump says 'We must fight' hard-line conservative Freedom Caucus in 2018 midterm elections
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/30/trump-says-we-must-fight-hard-line-conservative-freedom-caucus-in-2018-midterm-elections/

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    1. Trump versus the Tea Party? Didn't they help elect him?

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  8. Yea, and as usual every bleeding heart turns a blind eye to the homeless population.

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    1. How many have you taken in?

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    2. 8:10 Ditto
      Love your question. My thoughts exactly.

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    3. What about you 8:10A & 10:29A?

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  9. If "you" are illegal, it's well known, that if you report that crime to authorities yourself, your status living here, will not be challenged. "You" will given a priority, when applying for citizenship.

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    1. When will you turn yourself in for giving bad legal advice without a license to practice law?

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    2. Did your dog tell you that? That is an outright lie. You will be denied citizenship for at least 10 years.

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    3. Troll #1 layin' down the law.

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  10. 7:25am. No one is illegal. Now please explain why people can't or won't change their own Country? What is it about America, that everyone wants to be here?

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    1. Our expat population is growing in all parts of the world. There must be a reason.

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    2. Exodus from the Trumper Reich.

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    3. 3:19. Nope, the expats left before Trump. Many got sick of taxes.

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  11. 7:10am. Yikes. Slave owners like you, still exist in todays World.

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    1. Enjoy your vegetables.

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    2. 8:19 Hard working honest people don't break the law. Deport deport deport.
      No slaves in this country...just people that follow the law.

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    3. Deport all criminals? Good luck with that,again that silly Constitution.....
      Your white privilege is showing.

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  12. If you are undocumented or overstay your visa, you are illegal.

    If you're in bed with foreign oligarchs and thugs who interfered with our election, you are President.

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    1. Spot on. Thanks.

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    2. @ 842 If you are not in compliance with your visa you are in the country illegally you are not illegal,no human is illegal.

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    3. Ya missed the point 10:33.

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  13. Culver City has a press release on its declaration as a Sanctuary City. I spent some time at a Tree People activity in Compton (near Culver City for the Sierra Madre self-city-arrest types) a while back and the participants spoke English, Spanish and Samoan. Los Angeles City School System had at one time counted over 90 languages spoken by children in attendance. It is a far more mixed world than the complexion of the "make America great again" people imagine they can attain/retain/return to.

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  14. No Federal Dollars for Sanctuary ; or any creative "wording" representing Santuary Cities.
    After all, "words" have meaning.

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    1. No federal funding for bombs/drones that create refugees.

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    2. ...and if any citizen is injured by an illegal the city and it's leaders should be held responsible.

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    3. So does our Constitution and it is the rule of law,U.S. law, not trump,Sessions, Putin law. The states are not required to enforce federal immigration laws.

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    4. Omy! 10:36 again that pesky US Constitution comes into play.

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    5. The Kochs are working hard to fix that.

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  15. 8:20am. Thanks. I grew my own vegetables and I picked them myself. I also cleaned and prepared them myself and then I cleaned up the kitchen myself. Have a nice day.

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    1. And, uh, 8:55 am, I assume you pick and baled your own cotton, too.

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    2. You don't often see such agricultural initiative around here.

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    3. You're speaking in a past tense are you dead?

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    4. Actually my husband did. What about you?

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    5. My husband is alive and I do enjoy gardening although it costs more than store bought produce and is unsustainable.But I'm Hispanic so it doesn't count

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  16. 8:42am. Try overstaying your visa, outside the US. You could then blog about what you experience out in the real world.
    As far as foreign oligarchs and thugs, still waiting for ANY proff that the election was "rigged".

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    1. Don't worry 9:02/8:10. The "proff" is coming.

      You want the undocumented to turn themselves in, but didn't mention when you would be turning yourself in for giving legal advice without a license. When will that occur? Some of us might like to be there.

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    2. Actually this is the real world? And the only one "blogging" here is the Moderator we are but anonymous commenters don't think so highly of yourself.It's hard work to publish a blog. Easy to make stupid comments......

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    3. Your aktivniye meropriyatiya will not work in my country.

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  17. 8:50 & 9:04am. All true. Check for yourselves.

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    1. 9:21 in the wrong thread. I did look it up,you will be deported if you turn yourself in,no amnesty,so special favors,just deported. You may not be incarcerated until your removal, up to the discretion of the ICE official,

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  18. Schiff, who usually loves the television cameras, appeared to want to avoid questions today after the Intelligence meeting, being briefed by Nunes.

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    1. Nunes is another traitor. He is working hard for his boss Vlad.

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  19. 10:36am. Just make sure "the body" falls towards the property line, it's called street justice. Save the authorities time and paperwork also save tax payers dollars
    Cities that claim sanctuary and their "leaders"; don't care about you or your family.

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  20. All "illegal's" should franchise Pot Shops. They will get a free vendor license so that more tax revenues can go to Sanctuary Cities and the Feds will be confused as to which Federal law applies to which law to enforce first.

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  21. 3:29pm. Why? Are you planning something "illegal"?

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  22. Flynn getting flamed - trolls getting trumped again!

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    1. Michael Flynn Offers to Testify Before Congress in Exchange for Immunity
      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-congress-immunity-russia.html

      Trump has been in office less than a hundred days and already a former member of his administration is copping a plea?

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