Sunday, April 16, 2017

Does Past Volunteer Work Excuse Later Bad Behavior?

I have been doing this blog on an almost daily basis since late in 2008, and many interesting themes have developed over that time. And one theme that has consistently been with us all along is what I like to call the "Volunteer Defense."

The notion here being that no matter what sorts of shenanigans someone has recently been involved in, the fact that this person had done some past volunteer work for the city would somehow wash away all of his guilt.

A corollary here would be that criticizing someone who has done such volunteer work, whether related to the particular topic under consideration or not, somehow makes you ungrateful. Even if the topic being examined has nothing to do with that work.

As an example, the following exchange posted to Friday's Henry A. Darling home article took place late last night.



So I guess the question would be does having done volunteer work for the city get you a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card? Useful should you do something later that is not quite above board, and you need to be forgiven and loved?

Enjoy your Easter Sunday.

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52 comments:

  1. You are an unethical coward. You know damn well that the fireman has nothing to do with the darling house and yet you still open fire. But of course you won't "approve" this post, just like you have dismissed most all my other posts that discredit you.

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    1. Not sure I grasp your meaning here, angry dude. Did you not find any chocolate bunnies this morning?

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    2. Easy pard'ner

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    3. Not finding chocolate bunnies on Easter morning can have a devastating affect on some people. I thought it might be a scream for help.

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  2. "The fireman" tore down the Darling house w/o a permit.
    But of course you won't "approve" this post, just like you have dismissed most all my other posts,because I am a senile babbling clown.

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    1. Peeps will not help only a basket of See's fudge (w/Walnut) giant eggs will do.

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    2. Check the name it's not the same person. I knew you people were stupid, but I assumed you could read.

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    3. You are making an incorrect assumption, peepless dude. No names were mentioned here, and the inference comes from the cited comments and not the article itself.

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  3. 7:36 doesn't get it and no amount of explaining will help I'm sure, but here goes. The laws in place are for everyone, just because the give local government free cake doesn't make you above the law.

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  4. You heard a lot of talk about "volunteers" during the Measure V run up. Somehow those claiming to have done volunteer work felt they were ethically superior, and they attempted to link that with their support for the Downtown Specific Fan. As far as I could tell many of them were not being completely honest.

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  5. The Æsop for Children
    The Hare & the Tortoise

    A Hare was making fun of the Tortoise one day for being so slow.

    "Do you ever get anywhere?" he asked with a mocking laugh.

    "Yes," replied the Tortoise, "and I get there sooner than you think. I'll run you a race and prove it."

    The Hare was much amused at the idea of running a race with the Tortoise, but for the fun of the thing he agreed. So the Fox, who had consented to act as judge, marked the distance and started the runners off.

    The Hare was soon far out of sight, and to make the Tortoise feel very deeply how ridiculous it was for him to try a race with a Hare, he lay down beside the course to take a nap until the Tortoise should catch up.


    The Tortoise meanwhile kept going slowly but steadily, and, after a time, passed the place where the Hare was sleeping. But the Hare slept on very peacefully; and when at last he did wake up, the Tortoise was near the goal. The Hare now ran his swiftest, but he could not overtake the Tortoise in time.

    This is not really about a bunny and a turtle!!

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  6. Peepless dude's chocolate bunny ran away.

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  7. I hope for a world filled with loving, neighborly tattlerites who are intellectually superior, erudite and giving, community contributors, who build up those around them. What a wonderful world that would be.
    Get out of the shadows and fly your flag around town. I'm sure everybody loves you and your point of view.

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    1. They are. As I am sure you know, some give while others just talk about it. The best giving is done without ever asking for credit.

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    2. Agree 8:35.
      Reminded me of an old, old Tattler article:
      http://sierramadretattler.blogspot.com/2009/07/whats-in-it-for-me.html

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    3. "Volunteerism is important for this community, and such service needs to be honored. But giving without grace only diminishes the effect, and no matter how hard the work becomes the thing people remember most."

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  8. Jesus, volunteered to be "here"...
    We all know the rest.
    Happy Easter. Happy Passover.

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  9. When you violate a city law and get caught up short on answers you deflect people's attention by giving an account of something totally unrelated. Not exactly a bait and switch but close. Volunteer all you want and help out in the community BUT follow the laws at the same time would be my suggestion. (I'll wait for the slam that I got last time for "pot shots" and "stupid..." comment.)

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    1. Great comment. Thank you.

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    2. Seems rational and well stated.

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    3. For the last time. Fireman is not the same person. Is that a deflection or a fact.

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    4. Sure. But that is not what we're talking about today.

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    5. @9:30 "Fireman is not the same person",nor is a Tortoise,a Tortoise,or a Hare,a Hare,in Aesop's fable. The word Exemplum comes to mind.
      Thank You

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  10. I think that those who believe there should be more development in town would be upset with Bill K. He has given them a bad name.

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  11. Sierra Madre was "built" by volunteers.
    Truth is fact, fact usually escapes most of those individuals quick to point their fingers.
    Written documents are facts, if legally binding and sufficiant findings to back them; not journalists incorrect interpretation of fact.
    Enjoy this day. Why not color and hide some eggs, just try to recall where "you"place them, or it's a fact the colorful eggs will serendipitously give a voluntary reminder.
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    1. Many people in town volunteer. Some are just louder about it than others.

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    2. Some volunteers do more harm than good. The Chamber of Commerce would be a good example of that.

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    3. Hey, you're the trump guy!

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    4. Nope. You are.

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  12. 9:03, very good and so true. You have a lot of nerve my friend.

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  13. Humility and volunteerism are actions that are respected.
    Children say"I did it, it's mine," and have to learn eventually just do it quietly.
    Growing up is difficult.
    Yes, 8:52 perfect explanation.

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  14. Isn't volunteering supposed to be altruistic, without expectation of remuneration. I thought the Chamber of Commerce had economic links for its membership, the real reason for joining, especially in a small town such as Sierra Madre. It is a club for business people to promote their enterprise. I don't think the Chamber gives money for scholarships or donations to real volunteer groups. Do they?

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  15. Volunteers are entitled to only one thing. Knowing they did something good should be their only reward.

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    1. Sadly there are also political agendas at play. Kind of skews everything in an unfortunate way.

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    2. Volunteering with other like-minded volunteers on a common project is part two of the intrinsic reward.

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  16. I once sat in the audience and watched the Sierra Madre City Council chose a well-known, many-time volunteer for a Commission over a first-time applicant. The first-time applicant was loaded with professional experience, recently retired from his field who would have brought enormous fresh ideas and expertist to the agenda at hand. The volunteer chosen was an insider and of little to no experience for the Commission. Croniesm at its very best is alive and well in Sierra Madre. I imagined that the first time volunteer found something better to do with his retirement volunteering efforts than to ever volunteer in Sierra Madre again. This was embarassing to watch and acknowledge as a great loss for our town.

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  17. There is a difference between the feds and our city, the feds print money and the city continues to raise taxes based on water repairs, but uses the water monies for city pensions, when is this - hit going to stop?

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  18. Arcadia now has a new ordinance on the books to deal with all the vacant homes. Thanks to all you foreign investors and speculators, you've managed to really screw up a decent city.

    https://api.municode.com/CD/Ordinances/16197/823454?forceDownload=true

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  19. 11:19am. So true, and one of the many reasons this town has been stalled in growth and development of a forward planning agenda, meeting the needs of a younger generation.
    It is fine to Volenteer, but move forward, don't stand in the same spot watching everything change around "you".

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  20. The Darling House Article. Both the Moderator and a few blogger's, choose not to read and comprehend the Planning Dept decision.
    The "spin cycle" is much more entertaining.

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    1. The big lie, repeated over and over again.

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  21. The Tattler, April 15th 2017 article.
    Read the LA Times, Sun.April 16, 2017, under the California section; ATF Letter; "safe".
    By Greg Moran and Lyndsay Winkley.

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  22. Watched the Planning Department video recently on cable. Does anyone have out there have more information or insight on what was discussed reguarding the legal recordings of open space properties from the orginal settlement of Carter One?
    It sounded like Caroline Brown was extremely helpful in repeating what a great majority of citizens understood to be a settled matter.
    Mrs. Brown also had the Counties assor lots numbers thst were recorded with her; or so I thought.
    My confusion is with the answer given from the Cities Legal Representative from the Law firm representing the town.
    Were the open space properties correctly recorded back then by City Hall and the Law firm, or were they resold recently by a bank for back taxes? Who's responcibilty will it be to reimbursement the two buyers? Will that come from General Funds or from the Law Firm?
    Anyone on this blog with more clarification on what is going in up at One Carter?

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  23. 12:09, What is wrong with a town wanting to preserve it's self. Look around, we have plenty of high density cities with new buildings. We in SM have a special town that we like and want to preserve. If you don't like this kind of town move, move to Arcadia or Pasadena just move anywhere else but don't keep trying to ruin what we have here.

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    1. There is nothing wrong. Predatory developers could make big money here if they could crack Sierra Madre. That is what it is all about.

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  24. 3:46 I think your right, it's all about the money.

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  25. Off hand I can think of two "volunteers" (one previously on Alegria and other the Scotsman) not mentioned above who should never be thought of in terms of the good they have done and thus so rewarded. "Volunteer" and "worthy of being revered" should not be thought of in he same terms.

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    1. Thank you, 5:24. Quite right.

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  26. George Enyedi had volunteered to help straighten out the city's finances. At some point he was told to stop. Then he ran for city treasurer and was elected to that position until his failing health lead him to not seek another term. He was a CPA and of great service to the city.

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    1. What happened to our current treasurer? Was he told to stop as well?

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