Thursday, June 8, 2017

Some Possible Results of Former FBI Director James Comey's Testimony Today

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Mod: I have no set idea on how this is going to go today, though eventual obstruction of justice charges against the President of the United States is a possible result. Should that happen the following could come into play. The posted video is pretty interesting, too.

Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power (Democratic Underground link): There is absolutely no doubt Trump's motive in firing Comey was to eliminate the person investigating #TrumpRussia and to obstruct the FBI investigation. That is criminal action.

The action was taken be three persons, Trump, Sessions and Rosenstein, and therefore conspiracy statutes prevail:

18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States - If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

18 U.S. Code § 372 - Conspiracy to impede or injure officer - If two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat, any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United States to leave the place, where his duties as an officer are required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.

The conspiracy began earlier, with truth-suppressing acts by co-conspirators Sessions, Flynn, and Kushner. Given perjury, false declarations, or assertion of a false affirmative statement by an individual testifying under oath accompanied by other obstructive, evasive testimony, such as a false denial of knowledge or memory, legal offenses exist. Sessions committed perjury in his confirmation hearing, Flynn lied to the FBI and about his Russia contacts, Kushner failed to disclose his Russia contacts in his security clearance. These acts and Trump's firing of Comey are part of a pattern of actions, a cover up related to the Trump campaign, and have been carried out for a unified purpose and in a concerted manner.

18 U.S. Code § 1621 - Perjury generally - Whoever—
(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or
(2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.

Obstruction and impeding any inquiry or investigation in Congress is also criminal. Director Comey was a witness before Congress in both public and classified hearings in the very days before his dismissal.

18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress

Shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.

History repeats. The first charge in Nixon's impeachment resolution was obstruction of justice. Abuse of power and politics can continue to impede investigations. An independent investigation is an immediate imperative.

The best path forward remains unresolved. There were reasons to impeach Trump before this latest action, but political will was lacking. That too is changing, more so behind the barriers of secrecy imposed by classified information. As more information from the multitudinous investigations is revealed, the demands to end Trump's despotic tenure will grow. I doubt partisanship will be set aside to restore justice and undo an election outcome that never should have been. However, we don't have all the facts yet and when we do, even that may happen. Meanwhile, let the impeachment begin.

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76 comments:

  1. I see no wrong doing by Trump, just ongoing cover up by federal employees year after year. Let's start with the Clinton's and the Obama administration. The laws were broken, and many choose to protect those who committed multiple on going illegal actions... The usoa was built on laws, let's enforce them all!

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    1. Right. Starting with Traitor Trump.

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    2. Thanks for weighing in, Jared.

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    3. Chew your breakfast foods completely today because when you are eating crow you must also chew it up so the feathers don't stick in your mouth. He'll be there tomorrow and till the end of his term.

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    4. His prison term.

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    5. 7:03 nailed it!!

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    6. Comey hearing: Former FBI director says Trump administration ‘told lies’ when they explained his firing

      Former FBI Director James B. Comey blasted the Trump administration for bad-mouthing the bureau and his leadership to justify his firing, saying “those were lies, plain and simple’’—a stark challenge to the president’s rationale for his ouster.

      Comey said he took careful notes about his conversations with Trump because he was “concerned (the president) might lie” about the nature of the meetings.

      Comey sat grim-faced at a witness table before the Senate Intelligence Committee shortly after 10 a.m. as the committee chairman, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), began the hearing by calling for a “very open and candid discussion’’ about the “strained relationship’’ between the president and Comey. Comey’s written account of those discussions, made public on Wednesday, have fueled the debate over whether the president may have attempted to obstruct justice by pressuring the FBI director about a sensitive investigation.

      “This is not a witchhunt, this is not fake news,’’ said the senior Democrat on the panel, Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) “This is an effort to protect our country from a new threat that quite frankly will not go away anytime soon.’’

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/comey-testimony-trump-senate-hearing/2017/06/07/afadf87c-4bd0-11e7-bc1b-fddbd8359dee_story.html

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    7. One big Nothingburger

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    8. Chew carefully.

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    9. Really, 9:23? It isn't often that a President is repeatedly called a liar during a public Senate hearing, and absolutely nobody objects. If that is a victory for you, what do you consider a loss?

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    10. A Hillary presidency.

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    11. Won't happen. But that does not mean Trump won't be dragged kicking and screaming from the oval office.

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    12. Does anyone remember Bill Clinton? He lied and lied while you crazy people cheered on. Don't start planning your victory parties just yet.

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    13. Poor Trumpies. Desperately clinging to the past.

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  2. Comey failed to to his job by failure to share evidence about the Clinton, Obama and Lynch cover up on multiple ocurances. Let start with bengazi, emails and it's tax evasion. Conflict of interest, remember James Comeys brother is an attorney also, receiving money from Clinton foundation and James comey was suppose to enforce the law based on Clinton wrong doings? Comey needed to go prior to year 2016!

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    1. Comey is going to do his job today. In the not too distant first the Federal Penitentiary at Leavenworth is going to be known as the "Midwest White House."

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    2. Thanks for weighing in, Mr. Flynn.

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    3. Sure enough, Milo.

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  3. Can you believe the administration is going with the non compos mentis defense ? Are they really going to argue POTUS lacks the elemental mental facilities that form the basis for intent, criminal or otherwise?

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  4. Trump fans know that if the shoe were on the other foot, and Hillary was in trouble, they'd be calling for her head. We're in a very polarized time, but regardless of political party, if you're breaking the law, you should have the book thrown at you (maybe literally as well, that'd be funny).

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  5. So, Donnie, how did you get the idea to remove Article 5 from your NATO speech? Who made you do that? Was it...PUTIN?

    http://www.toledoblade.com/MikeSigov/2017/06/08/Mike-Sigov-analysis-Megyn-Kelly-got-truth-out-of-Vladimir-Putin.html

    Article 5 declares that a military attack against any one or more of the alliance’s members will be considered by the rest as an attack against them.

    It is precisely Article 5 that has kept Mr. Putin’s revanchist attempts at expanding Russia’s western and other borders within those of the former Soviet Union. So far his land grab has been limited to parts of Ukraine and Georgia, budding democracies that are not NATO members.

    Now that NATO’s mightiest member has all but given up its commitment to Article 5, Mr. Putin looks forward to the alliance’s disintegration. He would then be free to expand his military adventurism into some of NATO’s smaller member countries that formerly were part of the Soviet Union — the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia.

    Despite Mr. Trump’s statements to the contrary, it is not so much whether or not the NATO countries pay their voluntary “fair” share of 2 percent of their respective gross domestic products into the alliance’s budget that really matters.

    What matters far more is that these countries allow U.S. military bases on their territories and otherwise serve the U.S. national security interest by helping keep the unpredictable and unfriendly Russia in check militarily — an ocean away from the U.S. borders.

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  6. Trump is most corrupt president next to Nixon. Drain the swamp of this nepotistic mafia thug and put his treasonous supporters on the no-fly list!

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  7. Comey has now repeatedly called Trump a liar.

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    1. I'm glad for Comey that he is speaking the truth. The rest of his life will be better because of it.

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  8. What does the federal government have to hide, why are the feds protecting the Clinton's and Obama administration? Any comments

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    1. Because they have their hands full with Traitor Trump.

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    2. Is troll getting paid per post?

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    3. Because they did not throw and election and let the stinking communists in the front door of America.

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    4. Trump will go down in history as America's greatest traitor.

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    5. I disagree - he'd have to be more of a person to be that.
      I think he'll go down as a symbol of form without content, a kind of glyph that came out of the worst instincts of a great country.

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  9. Hillary,fits the paragraphs written on Impeachable offenses.
    President Trump, not under investigation.
    Comey, exemplifies the reasons why draining the swamp is necessary in Washington D.C.
    Watching these hearings, clearly gives the American public insight as to how "The Swamp" operates and why so little is accomplished in the government.
    The "squeaky wheel" is oiled by the business world and keeps the Washington DC world operational.
    I made my vote count, I voted for a candidate not enmeshed in the swamp pit of DC. and I will do so again in the future.

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    1. Trump was not under investigation at that time. But he sure as hell is now.

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    2. Your uniformed vote didn't count. The electoral college and the Russians made sure of that.

      Trump is the swamp. I don't care about Hillary. If you're so obsessed about her start a blog or a petition and go after her. Lying Donald is a pussy-grabbing, fake university fraudster, elite billionaire monster and traitor

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    3. Unfortunately due to the DNC, we were only allowed to choose between bad and worse...

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    4. Clinton is not the president. 8:25 cannot seem to understand that.

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    5. The difference between Trump and Clinton is Hillary can't be impeached.

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  10. Donald Trump acts just like the communist leader of Russia that Donald Trump has spoken in public to 'admire him' sound like COMMIE lover to me and devout follower! Time to give Donald and his whole communist cell family out of USA https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-anyone-exile-donald-trump

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  11. Comey is a Washington insider, he appears knowledgebased, in my opinion he just held the wrong position in his employment.

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    1. One would hope the head of the FBI was 'knowledgebased'. I'm tired of so many luddites and lemmings crowding our world.

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  12. Republican political witch hunt on Clinton / Benghazi -- 7 probes no evidence of any wrongdoing each time. Doesn't mean she didn't make mistakes.

    But trump's corruption is real. His sins are borne upon his supporters and paid trolls.

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  13. 8:36am. Sounds as if you are venting your personal feelings of inadequacy, time for a reality check.
    Yes, the Electoral college determines who sits in the White House.
    Hillary should have used better firewalls on her campaign software or assisted Podesta with selecting a "secure" password!

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    1. Podesta was hacked by the Russians. Nice tip of the hat to our enemies, useful idiot.

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    2. Podesta lame password vs Flynn lying military traitor? I'll take Posesta.

      Why would you take Flynn? Answer or stfu

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    3. Conservative traitors love Putin.

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  14. 9:00am. Did I miss the hearings from the Intelligence Committee on Benghazi and Hillary's "confidential e-mails?

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  15. Any remarks about Clinton or any politician other than Trump are simply Cohn manipulations - empty verbiage meant to distract and divert attention, the chief strategy of Trump supporters. They do not see him for who he is, and they frantically try to make sure that no one else does either.

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    1. Exactly- even the trolls infecting the Tattler can't defend trump. Just smoke and mirrors trying to divert from the true facts

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    2. What has Trump accomplished? Anything?

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    3. Well, he's made a lot of money for his business and his family. That's was the whole reason he ran for office.

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    4. Gangsters always dream of controlling the government. It is the only thing that stands between them and all of the riches in the world.

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  16. New Legal verbiage added to Webster's: lacked intent.
    With Hillary the findings of "probes", lacked intent.
    With Trump the findings of hearings will be; lacked intent.

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    1. With Trump there is also the possibility that he will be found "mentally incapacitated." In which case he will need to be removed from office.

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  17. Has trump found obamas wiretap yet?

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  18. MCCain was the biggest loser in all this,he came off as a confused partisan senile old man. He made absolutely no sense at all.

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    1. I think he was accusing Hillary of colluding with the Russians in order to damage her campaign.

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    2. McCain is a lousy corporate politician. Trump was right about one thing... he's no war hero

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    3. Unless you have had the same experience as a Prisoner of War, 11:43, you have no right to say that.

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  19. Not locating all wiretaps yet, but just nailed "The big leaker"! Comey admitted he passed legal documents to an outside source in order to be released in open public, not so smart.

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    1. They were Comey's personal meeting notes. Not classified, not proprty of the government.

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    2. If he's saving America from a corrupt elite corporate politician like trump or Nixon it's worth it. Drain the swamp!

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    3. Remember when the republicans leaked Valerie Plame then Bush commuted scooter Libby's sentence? Corrupt corporate elite thugs.

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  20. Trolls get trumped again!

    When President Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the Paris climate agreement, he acted in concert with 22 Republican senators, who collectively receive $10,694,284 in contributions from the coal and oil industries.

    These 22 senators wrote to Trump, asking him to pull out of the accord. The president and the senators put their own political and economic interests above the voters.

    Drain the swamp of these elite corporate crony thugs!

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  21. What a good morning for America this has been. Honesty is not dead after all.

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  22. Comey called Trump a liar over and over again. Having seen all the secret stuff he must know Trump is going down. Otherwise he wouldn't have done that.

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    1. Or it's just the truth.

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  23. Trump is a liar- lied about obama not being American, lied about ted cruz's dad killing JFK, lies about obama's wire taps, lied about climate change being a Chinese hoax, lied about the Bible being his 'favorite book', lied about promising to investigate Hillary, lied about trump university being an actual university. So many more....

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  24. Trump lawyer’s statement on Comey littered with typos — including misspelling ‘president’!

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  25. When will SM decide on marijuana shops? Anybody know? Asking for a friend.

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    1. The elected officials of this town prefer not to share important information.

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    2. Planning commission to review at next meeting.

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  26. Who cares, Comey stated he is a leaker, that is a jailable offense. The internet post many leakers are in jail for the exact same thing Comey stated he did. It's always about the money!

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    1. That's why you getting paid to support trump and post here

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  27. You're a Trumpie. Of course you're lying. It is what you do!

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  28. Comey stated he was a leaker 3 times, you are in denial

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  29. Trump and all his corrupt cabinet lied... Nixon style. Drain the swamp!

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  30. 8:40 - Ok, maybe you're not a liar. You could be merely stupid.

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